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| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition This topic was brought up in school, and there was no petitions up on change.org I know it sucks sending a petition to the government that you expect to allow an investigation into itself, but... It's still worth doing. (No I'm not fishing for personal info.) "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition That's right, I pinned it myself. Hate away "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition Here is the same petition, on another site: [link to www.thepetitionsite.com] "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
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| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition No need to investigate brada Op we fucked up again and we did it but I will sign the petition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42898187  The problem is, NATO and the US have said that 'we' will investigate it. This happened quite a bit during Vietnam, and nothing ever came of it. There is an investigative body formed by the Geneva Conventions that is specifically supposed to be utilized in situations like this.. They have NEVER been called to do anything. Doctors without Borders is requesting an investigation from this body, but it requires the US and Afghanistan to agree to it (weird, isn't it?) Without pressure from the public, it will never happen. Thanks for the support!! IHFFC.org From the website (less than 50%) "Violations of the law applicable in armed conflict occur, alas, in many conflicts throughout the world. Yet, the international community has never accepted this as a fact which cannot be changed. It has designed a number of institutions and procedures for ensuring the respect for, and faithful implementation of, international humanitarian law. The International Humanitarian Fact-finding Commission is one of these institutions. The idea behind its creation is that ascertaining controversial facts where there are mutual allegations and denials of violations constitutes a useful, even necessary tool for re-establishing respect for international humanitarian law." "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48956293 United States10/09/2015 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition READ THIS 18 U.S.C. United States Code, 2011 Edition Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 118 - WAR CRIMES Sec. 2441 - War crimes From the U.S. Government Printing Office, www.gpo.gov §2441. War crimes (a) Offense.—Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death. (b) Circumstances.—The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act). (c) Definition.—As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct— (1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party; (2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907; (3) which constitutes a grave breach of common Article 3 (as defined in subsection (d)) when committed in the context of and in association with an armed conflict not of an international character; or (4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians. [link to www.gpo.gov] That's the LAW. |
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| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition Hague Convention IV, Chapter 1, Article 27: Art. 27. In sieges and bombardments all necessary steps must be taken to spare, as far as possible, buildings dedicated to religion, art, science, or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals, and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not being used at the time for military purposes. It is the duty of the besieged to indicate the presence of such buildings or places by distinctive and visible signs, which shall be notified to the enemy beforehand. (less than 50%) [link to www.icrc.org (secure)] <--pdf of the convention Last Edited by ScoutsOUT on 10/09/2015 07:02 PM "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition I'm pretty sure the allegation is that WE violated internationally recognized law, not US law. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition I would have bombed every hospital in A'stan. Makes the war end quicker when the chimps don't have medicine and bandages. Perhaps an investigation would reveal there were hostilities at the hospital. It's a double edged sword. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition An independent organization could conceivably conclude that we were completely justified in bombing the shit out of the hospital. I believe I worded the petition well. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48956293 United States10/09/2015 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition |
| The Old Timer User ID: 64134821 United States10/09/2015 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition DWB was pressuring the Obama administration not to sign the TTP because of possible increases of drug prices....they just happen to get bombed....  Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
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| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition DWB was pressuring the Obama administration not to sign the TTP because of possible increases of drug prices....they just happen to get bombed.... Quoting: The Old Timer 75% of the world's poppy is farmed in Afghanistan. The CIA has been rumored to finance a lot of "dark" projects from drug money. Why were American soldiers protecting poppy fields again? Why was the Taliban trying to eradicate the poppy? "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition OP, eat shit. you fucking trouble maker. Obama needs investigating not the military. once again, fuck you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70524036 Obama needs investigating. I'm not suggesting the military is at fault here. Questions deserve to be answered. It is what it is. I agree with you. Obama needs to go. It is unfortunate he gets this petition, but it is also going to Kerry and Carter as well. Supposedly, if this thing hits 20,000 signatures, the President NEEDS to address it. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| WeaponX2 User ID: 64271985 United States10/09/2015 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition I would have bombed every hospital in A'stan. Makes the war end quicker when the chimps don't have medicine and bandages. Perhaps an investigation would reveal there were hostilities at the hospital. It's a double edged sword. I know for a fact the place was rotten with Taliban being treated for injuries. Sorry, if you have hajis in your garage, your garage is a gawdamned laser-painted bullseye. |
| WeaponX2 User ID: 64271985 United States10/09/2015 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition OP, eat shit. you fucking trouble maker. Obama needs investigating not the military. once again, fuck you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70524036 Obama needs investigating. I'm not suggesting the military is at fault here. Questions deserve to be answered. It is what it is. I agree with you. Obama needs to go. It is unfortunate he gets this petition, but it is also going to Kerry and Carter as well. Supposedly, if this thing hits 20,000 signatures, the President NEEDS to address it. The "President" needs to do no such thing. We have had several petitions go over 100,000 signatories, and that mongrel Kenyan buttfucker just orders the counters reset and ignores the petition. This is literally worse than a waste of time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48956293 United States10/09/2015 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition I would have bombed every hospital in A'stan. Makes the war end quicker when the chimps don't have medicine and bandages. Perhaps an investigation would reveal there were hostilities at the hospital. It's a double edged sword. I know for a fact the place was rotten with Taliban being treated for injuries. Sorry, if you have hajis in your garage, your garage is a gawdamned laser-painted bullseye. And how exactly do you know that? And even if they were, a hospital is not a legitimate militarty target. If they were, the Russian air force would be justified in bombing this one. And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that. Would you. |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition I would have bombed every hospital in A'stan. Makes the war end quicker when the chimps don't have medicine and bandages. Perhaps an investigation would reveal there were hostilities at the hospital. It's a double edged sword. I know for a fact the place was rotten with Taliban being treated for injuries. Sorry, if you have hajis in your garage, your garage is a gawdamned laser-painted bullseye. I know for a fact that the main casualties of war are the local population that has nothing to do with who's fighting. Typically, we show up, and then foreign fighters show up, and the town gets destroyed. We then move on, and so do the foreign fighters. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition OP, eat shit. you fucking trouble maker. Obama needs investigating not the military. once again, fuck you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70524036 Obama needs investigating. I'm not suggesting the military is at fault here. Questions deserve to be answered. It is what it is. I agree with you. Obama needs to go. It is unfortunate he gets this petition, but it is also going to Kerry and Carter as well. Supposedly, if this thing hits 20,000 signatures, the President NEEDS to address it. The "President" needs to do no such thing. We have had several petitions go over 100,000 signatories, and that mongrel Kenyan buttfucker just orders the counters reset and ignores the petition. This is literally worse than a waste of time. Yeah, because arguing with you is SO much more productive! "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition OP, eat shit. you fucking trouble maker. Obama needs investigating not the military. once again, fuck you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70524036 Obama needs investigating. I'm not suggesting the military is at fault here. Questions deserve to be answered. It is what it is. I agree with you. Obama needs to go. It is unfortunate he gets this petition, but it is also going to Kerry and Carter as well. Supposedly, if this thing hits 20,000 signatures, the President NEEDS to address it. The "President" needs to do no such thing. We have had several petitions go over 100,000 signatories, and that mongrel Kenyan buttfucker just orders the counters reset and ignores the petition. This is literally worse than a waste of time. Point me to a couple, I'd love to check them out "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| WeaponX2 User ID: 64271985 United States10/09/2015 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition OP, eat shit. you fucking trouble maker. Obama needs investigating not the military. once again, fuck you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70524036 Obama needs investigating. I'm not suggesting the military is at fault here. Questions deserve to be answered. It is what it is. I agree with you. Obama needs to go. It is unfortunate he gets this petition, but it is also going to Kerry and Carter as well. Supposedly, if this thing hits 20,000 signatures, the President NEEDS to address it. The "President" needs to do no such thing. We have had several petitions go over 100,000 signatories, and that mongrel Kenyan buttfucker just orders the counters reset and ignores the petition. This is literally worse than a waste of time. Yeah, because arguing with you is SO much more productive! At least it doesn't give false hope to several dozen people. |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition What's the solution? Fight here amongst ourselves? Perhaps we have 'real' lives outside of here, and this is just one aspect of what we do? "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
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| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition Pick a real problem, not one loaded with libtard possibilities. Say, Obama importing a million Muslims a year into America with no vote, no background checks, nothing. So, why are those muslims fleeing the middle east? It surely isn't because we flooded Syria with ISIS in order to oust Assad. Maybe it is OUR FUCKING POLICIES that keeps on causing our problems. I'm picking this fight at the moment. Go fight your fight. This appears to be a crime that can have actionable consequences. At some point, I hope that the US gets investigated for the creation and enabling of ISIS in the Middle East. I'll be right there when it happens too, promoting the hell out of it. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 69392449 United States10/09/2015 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition Ahem: “War crimes” include grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions... ...These prohibited acts include: intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historical monuments or hospitals; [link to www.icc-cpi.int] The Geneva Convention SPECIFIES intentionally attacking hospitals as being a war crime. If the evidence suggests that we knew it was a hospital, yet we continued to bomb it, we should at least have an independent investigation into the matter. It shouldn't matter what color their skin is, or what god they worship. I don't agree with their way of life, but I certainly don't agree with indiscriminate killing. Incidents like this certainly create more terrorists than not. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66538332  Canada10/09/2015 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Demand an independent investigation into the US bombing of a hospital in Afghanistan -- Change.org petition What if the Taliban terrorist persistently and forcefully used this facility as shield or shelter to run to, knowing that doctors would not do anything or say anything in protecting their lives or the patients there? I'm sure it wasn't a black and white decision, but tough choice that was made with accurate information in the battle field. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the greys, and the mistake was to hit them(the terrorist) at a operating hospital ; shit sometimes happens in the heat of the moment, and judgement call was made. |
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