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Technological unemployment

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/11/2015 02:27 PM
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Until they teach a computer how to be creative, I'll still have a job.
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10/11/2015 02:28 PM

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People laugh at the proposition that robots (LMAO ROBOTS) will take 90% of jobs away from humans within a decade.

They imagine in their heads a linear progression in robotic advancement, gradually improving year after year and taking 50 or 100 years until they can do most human jobs.

This could not be further from the truth. Think Exponential.
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Exactly, in the near future robots will do most of the jobs humans are do now.


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10/11/2015 02:31 PM
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The terrible cost of universal basic income

A universal basic income, should it ever come to fruition, would likely represent the withering of America’s social fabric through the combination of the free market and welfare state. While it is easy to foresee an environment in which cutting a check to every citizen would be a reasonable and perhaps even necessary policy solution, we should earnestly hope to escape that fate. By the time a true universal basic income would be justifiable, both the capitalists and the government would be purchasing more than mere domestic nondisturbance: they would be buying many of us out of civil society altogether.

A no-strings-attached material cushion would allow otherwise working drones the chance for more leisure, and the opportunity to invest their time and money more freely.

But the freedom of no longer being needed is a vicious gift to give, and “no strings attached” money is rarely as costless as it seems.

A universal basic income would not connect us to each other. Rather than knitting us to our coworkers, our employees, our collaborators and our families, a basic income would tie every American directly back to Washington, via millions of isolated and attenuated threads. It might sound grand to be able to give a check to every citizen. But if we would need to unravel the social fabric to get there, it’s a cost we should not hope to afford.
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And the answer from our obsoleted political incorrect government is more mass immigrations and to follow tptb cabal shitocracies agenda like sheep.
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So, for those of us who believe this will be a life altering problem, how are you preparing? What is the plan?

If you have children, how are you raising them in order to prepare them for this type of future?
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The creator of a huge technological breakthrough said it went wrong:

Thread: Philo Farnsworth, the father of television, said he created kind of a monster, a way for people to waste a lot of their lives!
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Can robots replace patent examining?
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Can robots replace patent examining?
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A computer could scan all of the works and find similar items using keyword searches and cut down the human work.
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I have worked in IT most of my life, starting with installing computers in offices in the late 1980's.

Remember when managers having secretaries, typing pools, internal mail system for memos.
All that replaced by PC's, managers now do their own typing.

My Mother used to be comptometer operator, her job was replaced by electronic calculators and computers.

Most companies and banks had to employ huge teams of clerks to deal with all the paperwork, where are they now?

You don't notice so much because these people were intelligent and educated, they could quickly adapt to new jobs.


I think this will hit the lower end of the job market more because there will be more people fighting for less jobs.

Unless they will be fighting for their country instead?
lightchild_uk
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YES YES YES

I've been trying to spread this idea for years.

Retail and manufacturing jobs are NEVER EVER EVER EVER COMING BACK. They will be completely replaced by cheap overseas labor or completely automated.

In the future those "low skilled" jobs will be replaced with what we consider "high tech" jobs. An IT Professional will be a skillset most will have. As technology increases the baseline understanding will increase with it.

Like TONS of people know enough HTML to get a website up and running. When the internet took off in the 90s no one did except those that specialized in it. Now HTML is something most in "tech" know, at least having some basic understanding.

Something to also keep an eye on is the whole 3D printing technology. These printers are already down to a couple of thousand dollars. In 5-10 more years those prices should be sub $1000 making it something many can have in their homes. There are other models, sell the printer for a loss and sell the "ink" for the profit like we've all known. The benefit to having a 3D printer in you home is the ability to make some things at home you actually need. Imagine if you just made some things at home instead of having to buy it. Like a flexible cook safe spatula. I know it sounds silly but imagine spatula sales if people simply made them at home. There's all kinds of things that could be made at home and that's one more thing that will kill manufacturing jobs.

In terms of manufacturing, the only thing that will remain will be big auto makers and their suppliers and niche boutique specialized parts making.

Cars

The automation of transportation will be the final nail. Once we have self driving cars it will not only hurt jobs, it will absolutely KILL government.

Governments make killing in revenue from gas taxes, road taxes, license fees, ad valorum taxes, registration fees, emmission testing fees, parking fees, and traffic violation ticket fines.

San Francisco makes over $100,000,000 a year in ticket fines. Imagine that money going away, forever. You can bet your ass government will not allow such a cash cow just up.
Do you really think the government is going to simply allow everyone to go to vehicles that allows them to bypass parking fees, not ever having to buy gas again, and never collect another dime in ticket fines? PSHHH, not a chance.

Technology is stripping out everything. The old model is completely going away. The old government and business models are going away.

It doesn't matter how much we bitch about it. It doesn't matter how much it affects our lives. It doesn't matter which political party or individual you blame. ITS COMING, PERIOD.

So using the information the OP posted stop and think. Are you dependent on these dying models and are you pointing fingers at someone else for letting them go away? Are you not doing anything to protect yourself from the coming shift? If you simply go to work and work for someone else you are most likely going to be completely hosed and you will probably lose everything, no matter how much gold and silver you have.

In the future you will be promoted to do what you want, what you love. You can do it but you have to find it and get going on it NOW.

There will be plenty of things left to do, service oriented things. Unique goods and products. The way to become really successful in any kind of economy is to find a solution to a problem that a lot of people have and charge money for that solution.

In the past, finding a place to buy new phones or new clothes was the problem and the solution was physical retail stores. That problem has been solved in a new way that allows people to buy their phones and clothes from places without having to leave their home.

Find solutions to problems many have and you'll win.

The whole paradigm is changing on a scale like the development of agriculture or the industrial revolution. Being stuck in the old modes of the economy will leave you flat. So instead of blaming others and bitching about how it's going away, figure out how to succeed in the new coming ways. Do it now, get in on the ground floor.


There is only one caveat to everything I've said. Almost every single example of a major shift like the one we're going through right now has resulted in revolutions and wars. So we might not even have to worry about it, we might all be involved in a massive war.
 Quoting: The Årtist


It is such a great post that I want to quote all of it.

A big challenge is that the much of the population is generally lazy.
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10/11/2015 05:42 PM
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interesting point? ( if not sad)

these people never went to trade school / or learned to turn a bolt...
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