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Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?

 
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Why would Obama defeat his own creation fast?
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This creation existed long before Obama.

And any other choice of president would have had the same outcome.
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True, but let's at least hold the current puppet accountable befor we reach into the closet.
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Yes,
but in Iraq and Libya you only needed 1 president who was suspected to have connections to ISIS or Al-Qaida,
and EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN still have to pay for this?

Now they are fleeing and immigrating the whole Europe because their president was suspected to have connections...

What if an american president would be suspected of having connections to any of these terrorist groups?

Should every american be treated like a terrorist then?
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Looking that way isn't it?
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Not exactly. The US Military could have destroyed them very quickly but were not allowed to. The US Gov(CIA,Mossad, etc) created and funded ISIS to further the Mid East Agenda and was therefor protecting them.

Power isn't the issue, Corruption is.
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How many countries have been destroyed just because certain armies have suspected that 1 (or more) guy might be connected to ISIS or Al-Qaida or whatever the terrorists are called at the moment?

What if the rest of the world suspects that 1 (or more) guy in US have connection to those instances?

Can the rest of the world attack US because of this?

If Obama or someone else in the US Gov is suspected to have connections to one of those terrorist groups, is that reason enough to attack the whole USA, and force every citizen to immigrate to neighboring countries?
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Listen Sweden you have enough trouble with the muslim hordes destroying your country. Do something about that and then we'll talk.
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You are blaming the muslim hordes because their president was suspected of having connections to ISIS or Al-Qaida.

That´s why we are fighting them,
and that´s why they are fleeing.

Didn´t you also blame Obama for this?

Should we also fight the country who have Obama as president?

Or are you not objective?
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Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
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The criminal US government along with Israel created ISIS. Why would they destroy their creation?

If you don't know that you should go to sites that reflect you mainstream thinking. You don't belong here.
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Actually, Saudi Arabia is the MAIN creator of ISIS.
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The first question we must ask is, "Why do we want to attack Syria?" Have you thought about that? Is Syria so terrible that we have to overthrow a government? Or, is Israel wanting Syria attacked and Israel owns the U.S. government? It is Israel, and therefore if anyone questions Israel for political reasons, you will be immediately called anti-semetic and labeled a racist hater whatever. But we cannot talk about Syria without Israel.

Next, it is impossible for the U.S. Air Force to not see exactly what is happening on the ground. Shit, we know they can face scan a person from space. So, how does ISIS drive around in long lines of Toyota trucks without us blasting them? The answer is all to clear. Even Putin said it on world television. We are not even trying, therefore by default, ISIS is on our side. We admit we give all kinds of rebels money and weapons to attack Syria...is this who we are? Now we must admit the terrorists who we blame for 9/11 are working for us. I'm not even going to start on all the 9/11 bullshit but I have to say, it is total bullshit.

So, we have a very real problem in many aspects. How important is Israel to the U.S.? I'm not against Israel, but who is calling the shots here? Israel has way too much influence in U.S. government, they use tons of money and fear to control our politics. But even so, Israel is our "friend" in he Middle East so why do they want Syria taken down? They also want Iran to go down next. But Israel has done a super job getting Christian Fundementalists to think Israel and the Jews are God's chosen people.

I think this is deeply troubling and the U.S. Air Force is looking like fools...but they are not stupid. Therefore, we should be concerned because this is just in our face fuck you American citizen shit. This could be the start of the final battle, the Big War. If so, get ready for chaos. Obama was probably chosen for this job. And when they crash the financial system and blame it on Iran, will you be fooled? Or will you know, this is bullshit and treason at the highest level?
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lol@idiots thinking Obama is a Muslim. Sure, he is behind ISIS as well as Saudi Arabia, Israel and turkey supporting, but ISIS is attacking Muslim nations, doing the work of Israel for them.

Iran/Syria/Iraq are FIGHTING them. Those are mainly Muslim nations with Syria also having a large Christian population.

ISIS is attacking Christians and Muslims. Get that in your stupid heads.
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Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
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The criminal US government along with Israel created ISIS. Why would they destroy their creation?

If you don't know that you should go to sites that reflect you mainstream thinking. You don't belong here.
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^^this
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Because America officially will no longer be a super power from this point on..... let that REALLY sink in for a moment...

WE WILL SOOO SEE THAT AMERICA WILL CEASE BEING A SUPER POWER ALL BECAUSE AMERICA HAS TURNED AWAY FROM GOD AND CONTINUES TO DO SO

I remember reading how Edgar Cayce said Russia would be a "beacon of light" in these tribulation times...
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
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The criminal US government along with Israel created ISIS. Why would they destroy their creation?

If you don't know that you should go to sites that reflect you mainstream thinking. You don't belong here.
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Actually, Saudi Arabia is the MAIN creator of ISIS.
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and this ^^
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Why should I take Russian propaganda at face value? Let us know when ISIS is gone. Entire USSR couldn't win in Afghanistan.
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"On the ropes" my ass. The Syrian ground offensive has already stumbled to a halt.
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Because you say so.
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Just as guns don't kill, race cars don't race themselves, if you wanted to make the fastest car on the track look slow, just get Obama to drive it. All part of agenda to make America look pathetic, and who better for the job than the most antiamerican president ever. Communism's triumphs from the inside out by design, Obama is the exclamation mark to the victorious result.
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Nothing worse than Putin and his 70 billion networth he stole from his own people.
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Only billions ehh...

I know of countries that have trillions stolen.
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Yeah, the U.S.A.: trillions have been stolen from it.. 11SEP2015 is perfect example of the prefect heist... trillions stolen from it that day. It has not been found in either Iraq nor Afghanistan.. where oh where did it go?

Americans have been so concerned about whether the WTC was destroyed by kerosene or nano-thermite to pay any attention about asking where all that money went to... easier to just in great vacate fury kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people (they did not steal it) that to actually have massive investigations as to graft and corruption right within W.D.C. and N.Y.C.
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Why should I take Russian propaganda at face value? Let us know when ISIS is gone. Entire USSR couldn't win in Afghanistan.
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Well, after more than a decade of war Iraq ended up in Russia's and Iran's hands. Go figure.
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Why should I take Russian propaganda at face value? Let us know when ISIS is gone. Entire USSR couldn't win in Afghanistan.
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Did we even after a decade? We did train and sponsor the terrorists in Afghanistan to fight the Russians if I am not mistaken, so according to the Pentagon they were our troops lol.
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End of ISIS? Terror group 'on verge of defeat' as Russian jets cut off arms supplies
ISLAMIC State (ISIS) is on the verge of defeat after Russia cut off its arm supplies, according to reports.


Russian jets have made 41 sorties and carried out 40 attacks against the twisted terror group in the past 24 hours, a defence official claimed.

The attacks took place in dozens of ISIS strongholds in the Syrian provinces of Aleppo, Hama, Idlib, Latakia and Deir ez-Zur, he added.

Russia's bombing campaign against the so-called caliphate, which controls vast swathes of Syria and Iraq, began earlier this month.
[link to www.express.co.uk]


But only 2 weeks ago...


How Obama Could Salvage His Hapless ISIS Strategy


U.S. Central Command, which is accused by its own intelligence analysts of skewing intelligence, claims that between August 2014 and April 2015, Islamic State, also known as ISIS, “can no longer operate freely in roughly 25 to 30 percent of populated areas of Iraqi territory where it once could.” Note the timing of that assessment: It was delivered before Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, and Palmyra, an ancient city in central Syria, fell to ISIS in May.

It’s true that in the past year ISIS lost control of the Iraqi town of Tikrit and of some territory in northern Syria, notably the border town of Kobani. But Iraqi forces have made no progress in taking back the far more important cities of Fallujah, Ramadi or Mosul. Much of eastern Syria remains securely in the hands of ISIS. And now ISIS is claiming “provinces” as far away as Libya and Afghanistan.
[link to www.wsj.com]

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i guess it helps if you are not secretly rootin for the other side like they were in afghanistan an iraq.
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Obama is a Muslim, why would he want to defeat ISIS ?
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^ This ^

Pinned it.
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Why is he still alive?

IS everyone in power in the US a muslim?
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Because assassinating a President isn't the way we do things... it's a DARK road that no-one wants to go down, and would likely result in Civil War.

To answer the "who's the super-power" portion of the Op:

The U.S. is the super power still... we could've wiped ISIS off the map in minutes if our CiNC desired.

But that hardly matters when we have a Muslim in office that's done nothing but spread jihad across the world.

TRUMP 2016!
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Guess what? If the Nine Nuclear Powers all voted to carpet nuke Syria and Iraq, guess what, no one could or would stop them. That's the real reality. We are watching the slow but such drive towards the first United Nations Air Force carrying nukes.
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Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6406905


Not exactly. The US Military could have destroyed them very quickly but were not allowed to. The US Gov(CIA,Mossad, etc) created and funded ISIS to further the Mid East Agenda and was therefor protecting them.

Power isn't the issue, Corruption is.
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You mean kinda like this?


Is that even possible? Jokingly OK but for real?
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Re: Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
its pretty simple..saudi arabia (which is an islamic state) wants to expand their reach n control of the arab countries, this benefits them and the USA(mainly oil profits) n so they are working together..ISIS is a bunch of paid mercenaries who go into countries and seize assets, the problem for USA is these paid mercenaries are loyal only to money so they will do whatever theyre paid to do by whoever. at the same time these terrorist/mercenaries can be trained n exported to anywhere in the world to do anything they are paid to do.

it is now a proxy war between US n its allies and russia n its allies..proxy wars are the way of the future, soon to be coming to a town near you :)
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Re: Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
To answer the OP's question: "No, the U.S. was not trying to defeat ISIS." U.S. created ISIS and were using them to undermine Assad -- pay no attention to all the Christians they were butchering.
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It's called Intel. That shit takes YEARS.
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O'Mallory during that debate brought out the point about the severe lack of HUM-INT in the American intelligence organizations. SIG-INT only works with certain signals and only goes so far. Perhaps Russia has a bit better HUM-INT than America does.

And Russia itself is partly in Western Asia.. (would people stop calling the eastern end of the Mid.Sea by the term "Middle East", its a really stupid misleading piece of geographic nonsensical terminology. That all is Western Asia.
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A year ago Petraeus said it would take years and the use of ground forces to destroy ISIS

[link to news.nationalpost.com]

I thought it was BS back then and Russia's current intervention (and successes) proves me right
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BAMBOOZLED AGAIN ARE WE?

Russian Official: Obama is a Communist KGB Agent
....A Russian government official bragged that Barack Obama was a KGB operative and that his presidency had been planned since birth, an American physicist and government contractor reports. Tom Fife, an American computer networking specialist and international businessman, reported the alarming facts about the Kremlin’s connection to Barack Obama. The boast from a Communist Party official reportedly occurred during a business trip to Russia,16 years before Barack Obama was ushered into the presidency of the United States....
[link to fellowshipoftheminds.com]

Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS(1963)
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

The rest is here; [link to www.uhuh.com]

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a copy and it has bothered me ever since....
[link to www.rense.com]

How are they doing? What grade do you give them for planning?
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lol@idiots thinking Obama is a Muslim. Sure, he is behind ISIS as well as Saudi Arabia, Israel and turkey supporting, but ISIS is attacking Muslim nations, doing the work of Israel for them.

Iran/Syria/Iraq are FIGHTING them. Those are mainly Muslim nations with Syria also having a large Christian population.

ISIS is attacking Christians and Muslims. Get that in your stupid heads.
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As to the Christian factions of that region, try Syria Orthodox Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Russian Orthodox Catholic; while at it add in Greek Orthodox Catholic. There are also those of Judaism in Iraq, Syria, Iran. So in effect many Orthodox Catholics, Jews, and Muslims getting killed off in these wars. There are also a number of Protestants that are being killed in these wars. Now who historically has done that? Remember the Crusades.. study history a bit more.
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they seem to be doing well on them objectives
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Was the U.S. even trying to defeat ISIS? In just two weeks Russia has them on the ropes. So...who's the super power?
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
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The criminal US government along with Israel created ISIS. Why would they destroy their creation?

If you don't know that you should go to sites that reflect you mainstream thinking. You don't belong here.
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The US created ISIS but in spite of the opinion of various. Jew
Haters Israel had nothing to do with it.
Obama is showing his twenty years as a Muzzle, every thing he's
done has destroyed secular governments and replaced them
with muzzle ones.
Anti-semites blame Jews for everything, even things that hurt them,
Like creating a middle east full of enemies.
How this is something Israel wants I cannot understand.
I am getting tired of Anti-semites blaming everything on Jews.
Even when Jews get hurt, its always their fault.
You can ignore the consequences of
your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Ayn Rand
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This is an interesting read- [link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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We are witnessing one of the largest conspiracies since the beginning of this nation! I have a very strong feeling that

this is a deal between Obama and Russia. One that will not come out for years but I cannot wait until someone can

expose it!
"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM



Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!!

Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

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uuuuh, no. UK planted ISIS, then Obama pretended to attack them.

Kosovo
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Libya
Egypt
Syria

the British Banker crusade...hello
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Russia thumbs
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Looking that way isn't it?
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The criminal US government along with Israel created ISIS. Why would they destroy their creation?

If you don't know that you should go to sites that reflect you mainstream thinking. You don't belong here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70567725


The US created ISIS but in spite of the opinion of various. Jew
Haters Israel had nothing to do with it.
Obama is showing his twenty years as a Muzzle, every thing he's
done has destroyed secular governments and replaced them
with muzzle ones.
Anti-semites blame Jews for everything, even things that hurt them,
Like creating a middle east full of enemies.
How this is something Israel wants I cannot understand.
I am getting tired of Anti-semites blaming everything on Jews.
Even when Jews get hurt, its always their fault.
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The US is run by Jews, so your point is mood.
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This is an interesting read- [link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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propoganda

syria is at least a close neighbour of syria, and an old allie..what the hell is america doing ther, or in iraq,lybia etc etc..for the good of mankind? come off it, sure they may be there to protect assads oil but why do u think suadies, america and the UK has their hands in it all..america is allied to saudie arabia, do you have any idea what them sick bastards believe? dont u realise that saudies are in bed with many US politicians
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Uhh no? Obviously the USA created and supported them





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