Chicken study reveals evolution can happen much faster than thought

Probably from all the hormones they're pumping in them.

So actually, they've found out nothing.

Mutation = destruction of information. I love how evolutionists hold it up as a good thing when in actuality it leads to less information in a closed system (essentially devolution!)

You'll see the evolutionists who haven't done their research try screaming how they've found mutations happening!

Hoo ha!

You want mutations? go eat some plutonium and enjoy your mutations.

ugh...

/rant

Good morning Face.

I was just reading about this in the paper. I'd say the recent mutations/developments are nature's response to all the poisons we're spreading around. Also, the DNA of the father being passed on may be because the fathers are no longer totally male - massive oestrogen pumped into everything may have resulted in no pure males or females being born any more. Be interesting if they did a comparison study in wild chickens from a remote, untainted part of the world (if any still exist!)

Good morning Tess!
Yes, it might be possible the poisons we spread around do have an impact. It's still interesting, as everything seems to speed up, even evolution now. Things are moving fast.

They proved already in 89 that "evolution" is instant, if there is a need.

And there is nothing random about it.

Conclusion:

Research in a lab under certain conditions, guided by intelligent beings, has proven evolution to 'work' 15x faster than assumed.


Ergo, at first there was nothing, suddenly nothing became something, the something turned into goo and eventually the goo evolved and created you. But 15 times faster than assumed.

Very enlightening article.

I like what you're saying do you have any more info on that?

you just keep showing everyone how retarded you are

Majority of Americans are evolving into land whales.


Fatties!

Too bad scientists are stuck on genetics and have no ability or wherewithal to MENTALLY evolve.

You don't seem to know much about basics of biology. Mutation IS evolution. Sometimes functional and beneficial, sometimes not.

How is it possible to be this ignorant?

Link pkease.



I never heard this before

Alterwelt the remote viewer was right...again. He said evolution happens much faster than present science says.

Evolution can happen in months. One minute my chickens were hanging out in their coop, under pine trees and living a beautiful free range chicken life. Now they come running into the house, go to the kitchen to ask for grapes and sweet corn, and nap with the dogs in the 3 season room. Even on lovely days with the door wide open, they still chill inside.

I built a little roost (2" dowell) on a wooden 3 x 5 open frame that holds hay for them so they feel more "at home."

The Galapagos Iguana told us this loooooooong ago.

This is no surprise. The common Dog does not exist in the wild, there are no packs of wild poodles -
they were "created" through a man made version of evolution called selective breeding - they knew this before Darwin -
so i don't know why Darwin's writings were such a big revelation.

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Mutations do not equal evolution.

This is how they get the weak minded ndividuals believing the ridiculous lie.

Sure the fossil record shows that evolution never happened, and that animals appear full formed. And sure no kind can mate with another kind, and sure there is no possibility that amino acids can form the proteins needed for life by chance and time.

But, there is no God, dammit, so evolution has to be true. Screw logical thinking and obvious evidence, we are going to call this dispproven theory science and so you have to agree with us. Or else you are making youself look stupid and you are an idiot.

Any individual that can look at a single cell and actually believe that given any amount of time, including billions,or trillions, of years, that said cell will somehow magically grow into an animal, or a human being, or plants....you are so completely brainwashed by scientism that I literally feel sorry for you.

Seriously. Wake up to the agenda of TPTB brainwashing you since youth that you are pond scum with no soul, and that your life is owned by the state, the incoming NWO. Please.

"A selective mating approach within the population started in 1957, resulting in what is now an over tenfold difference in the size of the chickens in the two groups when weighed at 56 days old."

And if they wanted to selective mate to get a much smaller bird, I am sure they could have done that.

But ya know what, in the end, it was still a chicken.

There is no God. We might not know everything about evolution, in fact, we know very little, but the principle is abundantly clear and evident all around us.
It's those who cling to the allmighty God principle who are being ridiculous. Get over it, you crazy zealots.

What is the point in posting about evolution when you know deep down your understanding of evolution must be wildly wrong? It is not possible for you to truly believe what you just posted is an accurate representation of the theory of evolution. You are afraid of change so you cling to the bullshit creationists pretend to believe about evolution.

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Please name one genetic mutation that is beneficial to the organism.

Any change in those chickens was already encoded in it's dna.

If you believe in microevolution you already believe in beneficial mutations. Evolution does not have a direction, a chicken becoming bigger in one environment does not mean it has evolved more than a chicken that has become smaller in a different environment. Mutations that change the population over time is evolution, it does not matter what changes as long as it makes them fitter for their current environment.

Another religiontard denying reality.
Probably a flat earther.

WTF............. What kind of mutations do you think evolution expects???????? Evolution is not an individual gaining a new body part or half a body part. There is never a time where a single individual is a different species from their parents (except for flowers in some rare cases, where a single mutation can create a new species). Gene pools change over time from accumulation of neutral and beneficial mutations. Species do not actually exist in the real world, species is a human made term to try and group organisms that can reproduce. Only gene pools exist in the real world. Gene pools can split into different areas of the world, who accumulate different mutations than the other gene pools of the same "species". Over time, these gene pools can become too different that if they were to move to the same location the organisms will not reproduce with the other members of the other gene pool, and over time they can become too genetically different to reproduce, creating a new species. If a gene pool was to split, and merge after awhile this will introduce new "information", same as when a few individuals join a different gene pool but on a smaller scale. (When they haven't genetically changed too much so they are able and are still willing to reproduce with the other individuals)

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Very interesting

15 times faster is 1500% faster than thought, for the math-challenged bibletards.

So much for your "missing link" fossils, that you're always complaining about.

They "discovered" that Selective Breeding of Chickens can produce a larger Chicken over time?

That's fucking Brilliant!

They have proven Mendel's laws of heredity.

Let's see the Morons breed these Chickens into a Horse, or Dog, or Whale?

Fucking "Evolutionists" always grasping at straws?

Another "Evolution" FAIL.

If by "Evolution" you are implying that common descent and natural selection are true then, yes, "Evolution" is true.

But if by "Evolution" you mean that random mutation gave rise rise to complex, intelligent life then, no, "Evolution" is not true and no Science has not proven that it is true. There are some things that random mutation can do and it is certainly capable of explaining some simple features of life. But random mutation MUST work with pre-existing cellular machinery, so there is a very limited number of things it can do. Sure, random mutation might blow up a bridge or build a dam with genetic debris. If such an event happened to do the organism some good, then it would be favored by natural selection. In a sense, that is what happened with the Antartic fish that have evolved what amounts to an antifreeze protein in their blood, but this type of example likely marks the far boundary of what random evolution can do.

The best evidence of what Darwinian (aka Random) Evolution is capable of doing in Nature (where it counts) is from the studies on such organisms as Malaria and HIV and E.Coli. What we see in these cases is not evolution, but rather devolution.

Time is actually not the chief factor in evolution - population numbers are. In calculating how quickly a beneficial mutation might appear, evolutionary biologists multiply the mutation rate by the population size. This is why the studies of Malaria, HIV and E.Coli are so important: we are dealing with millions of simple organisms that reproduce very quickly. The numbers of malaria cells and HIV in just the past fifty years have probably greatly surpassed the number of mammals that have lived on the earth in the past several hundred million years. So the evolutionary behavior of the pathogens in even such a short time as a half century gives us a clear indication of what can happen with larger organisms over enormous time spans. The fact that no new cellular protein-protein interactions were fashioned, that mutations were incoherent, that changes in only a few genes were able to help, and that those changes were only relatively (not absolutely) beneficial - all that gives us strong reason to expect the same for large organisms over longer times.

Until an organism is found that is demonstrated to be much more adept than the malarial parasite at building coherent molecular machinery by random mutation and natural selection, there is no positive reason to believe it can be done. And the best evidence we have from malaria and HIV argues that it is biologically unreasonable to think so.

There is actually mathematical limit to what Darwinian (aka Random) Evolution can achieve in Nature. Anything beyond that mathematical limit requires Non-Random Evolution (aka Design). Design is the purposeful arrangement of parts. Even Richard Dawkins admits that Nature appears to be Designed, but he will not admit that this appearance is real. Dawkins thinks that Darwinian (aka Random) Mutation can give rise to this "appearance" of design. The only problem is that there is no empirical evidence to suggest that Random Mutation gave rise to complex, intelligent biological life that we see around us. In fact, it is a mathematical impossibility and that in fact Random Mutation is much better at Devolution than Evolution.

It is really quite satisfying to know that all these smug militant atheists are actually anti-scientific hypocrites who cling to an irrational belief system with an almost religious fervor.