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william User ID: 67918096 Canada 11/01/2015 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: william 67918096 at the time, they genetically engineered races for specific tasks... today, they do not have a need for some of them... the blacks in africa would be an example, as the manual labour strength is no longer needed... as far as whites; the intellectual capacity is very high here, and is most likely seen as a threat now... Putin has nuclear weapons. He is a threat. And he's white. i wouldn't be so sure, that putin is not on the same team, playing his part... The reality of the world is there is no honor among thieves. As soon as one thief see an advantage the knives come out. Team play at best, is temporary. i like your mind; this is very true... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44018881 United States 11/01/2015 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Historic fact over looked by the Church: Herod was an Edomite (sons of Easu) in league with the Romans. The Romans knew the Edomites wanted the promise land and still held a grudge over Jacob stealing Issac blessing. This is why he wanted to hunt down the infant King of Israel and had no problem killing baby Jews. The poor Jews had no problem killing Jesus on trumped up charges. Did they? They accomplished what Herod failed to accomplish. Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70706619 Sweden 11/01/2015 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some other interesting facts. The main pusher of this garbage is Rick Warren the pastor of Saddleback church, he is also a CFR member, he is alsobbest friends with the Prince of Darkness Rupert Murdoch. In fact Rick Warren is the pastor of Rupert Murdoch. Furthermore Rick Warrens sodomite son bought a gun from a criminal and blew his brains out. He is also author of the heretical smash hit Purpose Driven Life or as Christians call his book: Purpose Driven Lie. Also remember how he was at the Obama inauguration... Now do you guys see the Islam connection, I mean Obama is basically chrislam. More articles on this heretick and false teacher: [link to www.wayoflife.org] |
Isaiah 43:1-2 User ID: 15469851 United States 11/01/2015 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christianity is no longer useful to keep people enslaved. Quoting: Rufus Juice Churches are closing while muslim numbers are growing by the millions still. Churches are closing because Jesus said there would be an apostasy. He said that men's hearts would grow cold due to increased wickedness. Christianity was never used to keep people enslaved. You are speaking of Catholicism. Islam is growing by the millions because Satan has been given power over the world for a short time. How many Christians pay for cable television and let their childrens mind get corrupted by Joo media? And at the same time all you Bible Christians are telling everyone including their children the Jews and Israel are the greatest thing since Jesus himself. What next? MTV in bible study? How many homos a church need to be right with Israel? How about a gay pride parade because Israel has one? I don't know and neither do you. We are commanded to bless the descendants of Abraham. I have NEVER said that the Jewish people are the greatest thing since Jesus. You are showing a great deal of ignorance about Christianity. Why don't you pick up a Bible and see what God says for yourself instead of spending your time on baseless hatred? follower of Jesus |
Isaiah 43:1-2 User ID: 15469851 United States 11/01/2015 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70665338 Historic fact over looked by the Church: Herod was an Edomite (sons of Easu) in league with the Romans. The Romans knew the Edomites wanted the promise land and still held a grudge over Jacob stealing Issac blessing. This is why he wanted to hunt down the infant King of Israel and had no problem killing baby Jews. The poor Jews had no problem killing Jesus on trumped up charges. Did they? They accomplished what Herod failed to accomplish. Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. One needs to die in order to be resurrected. Wow, your hatred is even causing you to try to change God's Word. I don't see any accommodation for Judaism. I do, however, see much accommodation and compromise for Islam. It's amazing to me that one man, John Hagee, in his teachings can cause the entire community of believers and unbelievers to think that all Christians bend over backwards for the Jews. Perhaps you want to believe that so you can criticize all Christians who defend Israel? Last Edited by Isaiah 43:1-2 on 11/01/2015 08:49 PM follower of Jesus |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70705253 United States 11/01/2015 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep researching... you are on the right track... but, just be aware; it can get muddy, as many of these groups are now allied, with infighting, and the lines are blurred... the end goal is to mix all the races and cultures together to achieve a one world, that is a combination... this should be obvious; simply look at the last couple of hundred of years... what was once a regional planet, has given way to country's with very mixed populations... It's very obvious that's their goal although I'm not sure why, except there are some bloodlines and races it seems that they want to water down, or phase out completely. I wonder if the White race is one of them. at the time, they genetically engineered races for specific tasks... today, they do not have a need for some of them... the blacks in africa would be an example, as the manual labour strength is no longer needed... as far as whites; the intellectual capacity is very high here, and is most likely seen as a threat now... Sounds about right. I know I've been somewhat sad before when learning all of this, but what can we do about it? Probably not much, it is what is I suppose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70705253 United States 11/01/2015 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some other interesting facts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70706619 The main pusher of this garbage is Rick Warren the pastor of Saddleback church, he is also a CFR member, he is alsobbest friends with the Prince of Darkness Rupert Murdoch. In fact Rick Warren is the pastor of Rupert Murdoch. Furthermore Rick Warrens sodomite son bought a gun from a criminal and blew his brains out. He is also author of the heretical smash hit Purpose Driven Life or as Christians call his book: Purpose Driven Lie. Also remember how he was at the Obama inauguration... Now do you guys see the Islam connection, I mean Obama is basically chrislam. More articles on this heretick and false teacher: [link to www.wayoflife.org] You know what is so fucking disgusting is that I'm pretty sure my estranged brother and his wife attend that church. |
Renegade Barbie User ID: 56518086 Canada 11/01/2015 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Christianity was the primary developer of what we now regard as civilization, Islam is the leading destroyer of civilizations... Ordo ab Chao...From Chaos comes the Order... not really, civilization did very good during the times of the pagan greeks and romans, when Christianity took over the world plunged into a dark age, while in the same time the ME under islam experienced great flourishing in "civilization" not that I am advocate of islam, I just really hate Christian hypocrisy. Yeah modern civilization is flourishing so well in the Middle East that thousands if not millions are fleeing it... its hard to flourish when Christian nations are bombing you none stop. again... I don't really care, its just you Christians fighting against muslims on who's a better copy of the original. Like thats what I'm talkin about. "christian" nation is not bombing anyone. Its a bunch of psychopaths running the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44018881 United States 11/01/2015 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christianity is no longer useful to keep people enslaved. Quoting: Rufus Juice Churches are closing while muslim numbers are growing by the millions still. Churches are closing because Jesus said there would be an apostasy. He said that men's hearts would grow cold due to increased wickedness. Christianity was never used to keep people enslaved. You are speaking of Catholicism. Islam is growing by the millions because Satan has been given power over the world for a short time. How many Christians pay for cable television and let their childrens mind get corrupted by Joo media? And at the same time all you Bible Christians are telling everyone including their children the Jews and Israel are the greatest thing since Jesus himself. What next? MTV in bible study? How many homos a church need to be right with Israel? How about a gay pride parade because Israel has one? I don't know and neither do you. We are commanded to bless the descendants of Abraham. I have NEVER said that the Jewish people are the greatest thing since Jesus. You are showing a great deal of ignorance about Christianity. Why don't you pick up a Bible and see what God says for yourself instead of spending your time on baseless hatred? We are commanded? Is that how you interpret scripture? A descendant of Abraham is pushing MTV garbage, pornography, Christian hate, and buying up our politicians and you somehow have to honor the fucking devil sticking it to you, because he is a descendant of Israel? Yeah. That's brainwashing. How about the injunction to be as wise as serpents and gentle as doves? Your biblical interpretation hardly seems to rise to "wise as serpents" level. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70406591 United States 11/01/2015 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70666622 not really, civilization did very good during the times of the pagan greeks and romans, when Christianity took over the world plunged into a dark age, while in the same time the ME under islam experienced great flourishing in "civilization" not that I am advocate of islam, I just really hate Christian hypocrisy. Yeah modern civilization is flourishing so well in the Middle East that thousands if not millions are fleeing it... its hard to flourish when Christian nations are bombing you none stop. again... I don't really care, its just you Christians fighting against muslims on who's a better copy of the original. Stop blaming Christians for what the beast is doing, you idiot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70669378 United States 11/01/2015 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The elites need everyone "busy" with conflict. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70189066 While you were busy arguing Christianity vs Islam, we (elites) can focus on manipulating world markets, banks, natural resources, to hoard the wealth of the planet... there you go someone that gets it the only religion is MONEY The old test god is the tribe itself, they are self worshippers. Their only requirement is birth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70669378 United States 11/01/2015 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70665338 Historic fact over looked by the Church: Herod was an Edomite (sons of Easu) in league with the Romans. The Romans knew the Edomites wanted the promise land and still held a grudge over Jacob stealing Issac blessing. This is why he wanted to hunt down the infant King of Israel and had no problem killing baby Jews. The poor Jews had no problem killing Jesus on trumped up charges. Did they? They accomplished what Herod failed to accomplish. Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. Are you a fucking retard? the one incontravertahle fact is that he was killed by deception and false witness none of which is mitigated by ant resurection, the action was intentional destruction of one blurring the tribal supremacy rules to include others. |
william User ID: 67918096 Canada 11/01/2015 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: william 67918096 keep researching... you are on the right track... but, just be aware; it can get muddy, as many of these groups are now allied, with infighting, and the lines are blurred... the end goal is to mix all the races and cultures together to achieve a one world, that is a combination... this should be obvious; simply look at the last couple of hundred of years... what was once a regional planet, has given way to country's with very mixed populations... It's very obvious that's their goal although I'm not sure why, except there are some bloodlines and races it seems that they want to water down, or phase out completely. I wonder if the White race is one of them. at the time, they genetically engineered races for specific tasks... today, they do not have a need for some of them... the blacks in africa would be an example, as the manual labour strength is no longer needed... as far as whites; the intellectual capacity is very high here, and is most likely seen as a threat now... Sounds about right. I know I've been somewhat sad before when learning all of this, but what can we do about it? Probably not much, it is what is I suppose. yep, it is what it is... it has to be played out until it's conclusion... no need to be sad, it is a game... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44018881 United States 11/01/2015 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44018881 The poor Jews had no problem killing Jesus on trumped up charges. Did they? They accomplished what Herod failed to accomplish. Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. One needs to die in order to be resurrected. Wow, your hatred is even causing you to try to change God's Word. I don't see any accommodation for Judaism. I do, however, see much accommodation and compromise for Islam. It's amazing to me that one man, John Hagee, in his teachings can cause the entire community of believers and unbelievers to think that all Christians bend over backwards for the Jews. Perhaps you want to believe that so you can criticize all Christians who defend Israel? The body dies and turns to dust. But you are not a body. You are a soul made in the image of God. So there is no death of the soul. Jesus proved there is no death. As far as Hagee, I've never listen to him. It kind of obvious that Scofield Christians hold religious views about Israel/Jews that are unique in the history of Christianity, and wouldn't hold up to much scrutiny. You Israel loving Scofieldites are the enemy of America. If anyone ever writes the reason this country fell, it will be because American "Christians," embraced the secular Juadizing of this country instead of fighting for what was plainly right and decent and godly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61205282 United States 11/01/2015 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easier for tptb to control and brainwashed Islam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45217289 Christianity's outsmarted tptb easily. Christianity was the primary developer of what we now regard as civilization, Islam is the leading destroyer of civilizations... Ordo ab Chao...From Chaos comes the Order... not really, civilization did very good during the times of the pagan greeks and romans, when Christianity took over the world plunged into a dark age, while in the same time the ME under islam experienced great flourishing in "civilization" not that I am advocate of islam, I just really hate Christian hypocrisy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70524337 Spain 11/01/2015 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Every religion, Abrahamic or not, believes they're the only ones worshiping the true God... But their symbolism will tell you what they are truly worshiping. You're no different... sorry for ruining the big fuss and hype of your thread dear admin. lol. have fun with your allah snackbar jesus Have fun with your Talmud...oops... does it feel good to know that I know NT and other chrisitan writings while you don't know a single passage in the Talmud? does it feel good know all the first Christian church fathers admitted the Talmud is of the Torah as the oracles were given to the jews? does it feel good to know the church used rabbinic calendar to determine the easter? Does it feel good to know you could stick all that crap up your ass, whether its a talmudic asshole, a christian, or a muslim, the shit all smells the same. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70706619 Sweden 11/01/2015 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some other interesting facts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70706619 The main pusher of this garbage is Rick Warren the pastor of Saddleback church, he is also a CFR member, he is alsobbest friends with the Prince of Darkness Rupert Murdoch. In fact Rick Warren is the pastor of Rupert Murdoch. Furthermore Rick Warrens sodomite son bought a gun from a criminal and blew his brains out. He is also author of the heretical smash hit Purpose Driven Life or as Christians call his book: Purpose Driven Lie. Also remember how he was at the Obama inauguration... Now do you guys see the Islam connection, I mean Obama is basically chrislam. More articles on this heretick and false teacher: [link to www.wayoflife.org] You know what is so fucking disgusting is that I'm pretty sure my estranged brother and his wife attend that church. Well it is a mega church. Ask them if Rick Warren would preach at their funerals, if he come visit if they end up in the hospital, if they can call him any time of the day in a crisis etc. Then you know its a fake pastor. There's way more dirt on the dirtbag Warren if you search, blast your relatives with facts either you win them or not, at least you did try should the reject you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11956667 United States 11/01/2015 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the elite are lowering Christianity and elevating islam to a point they are equal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70666622 the plan is to unify them. Islam and the hebrew beliefs are identicle except who qualifies for the supremacy benefit. Both are insincere and primarily ritualistic in nature and encourage all manner of deception as an explicit teaching and mechanism of achieving their beliefs. They both allow anything imaginable to be done in the the furtherance of their identical quest of world domination and enslavenent and subsequent destuction of all others. Bam!! there it is.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ fuck them all.. oh, and by the way revelations 22-16 jesus says he is the morning star.( Lucifer) .. It's all a lie.. until you all wake up, you will never grow!!! |
4thhorseman User ID: 11956667 United States 11/01/2015 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44018881 The poor Jews had no problem killing Jesus on trumped up charges. Did they? They accomplished what Herod failed to accomplish. Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. Are you a fucking retard? the one incontravertahle fact is that he was killed by deception and false witness none of which is mitigated by ant resurection, the action was intentional destruction of one blurring the tribal supremacy rules to include others. Both you two are fucking retarded.. you know nothing of what happened back then or the fucking stories and fairytales.. you believe like the rest out of being scared.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44018881 United States 11/01/2015 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some other interesting facts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70706619 The main pusher of this garbage is Rick Warren the pastor of Saddleback church, he is also a CFR member, he is alsobbest friends with the Prince of Darkness Rupert Murdoch. In fact Rick Warren is the pastor of Rupert Murdoch. Furthermore Rick Warrens sodomite son bought a gun from a criminal and blew his brains out. He is also author of the heretical smash hit Purpose Driven Life or as Christians call his book: Purpose Driven Lie. Also remember how he was at the Obama inauguration... Now do you guys see the Islam connection, I mean Obama is basically chrislam. More articles on this heretick and false teacher: [link to www.wayoflife.org] You know what is so fucking disgusting is that I'm pretty sure my estranged brother and his wife attend that church. Well it is a mega church. Ask them if Rick Warren would preach at their funerals, if he come visit if they end up in the hospital, if they can call him any time of the day in a crisis etc. Then you know its a fake pastor. There's way more dirt on the dirtbag Warren if you search, blast your relatives with facts either you win them or not, at least you did try should the reject you. I'm not interested. American Protestant Christianity doesn't interest me. A derivative, of a derivative until nothing much is left. I'm much more interested in the Greek Orthodox. In my opinion, the Orthodox are much closer to the original teaching of Jesus and the Church Fathers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44018881 United States 11/01/2015 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Isaiah 43:1-2 Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. Are you a fucking retard? the one incontravertahle fact is that he was killed by deception and false witness none of which is mitigated by ant resurection, the action was intentional destruction of one blurring the tribal supremacy rules to include others. Both you two are fucking retarded.. you know nothing of what happened back then or the fucking stories and fairytales.. you believe like the rest out of being scared.. Kiss my ass. A fucking atheist is like a fucking moron except the moron is generally friendly and likeable. And don't even begin to pull out your talking points. If you have never read Wittgenstein of Whitehead, then we aren't even in the same league. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37435134 United States 11/01/2015 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'martyrs' were beheaded ritualistically. Quoting: tandym They were a sacrificial blood offering to the evil one. 21 beheaded -- 7 + 7 + 7 2/15/2015 = 2 + 1 + 5 = 8 ... 2 + 0 + 1 + 5 = 8 ... 8 + 8 = 16 ... 1 + 6 = 7 This sacrifical offering was given by ISIS and This sacrificial offering was accepted by the Vatican I believe that this marks the beginning of WW3 ... blood sacrifice to mark the beginning of the war. I'm not a real numerology type of person, but I do see the patterns when they make sense -- and this time they make sense. Thread: The 21 beheadings -- a human sacrifice ritual |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69641382 United States 11/01/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True Christianity is too difficult a path for most to walk, so they deride it. Ultimately people go where the perceived power is, and on this earthly plane they are drawn to evil under the guise of supposed good. |
Sunny Daze User ID: 14751920 United States 11/01/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God created religion to control "the masses" the Romans used it to control the masses when god exiled the Jews, it was considered by most as the end of that Religion, and that's when Islam was born - from the stump and root of Jewishness - kinda like the 3rd Reich of Jews designed for the "Samaritans" (ME gentiles) - with a twist ... Mohammad thought it would be best to kill anyone who refused to be a god worshiper - in opposition to what Jesus taught ("love thine enemy) because he believed that Jesus's technique failed, where his couldn't because there wouldn't be any non-worshipers which is their continued role today ... Kill the infidel Last Edited by Sunny Daze on 11/01/2015 09:25 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48386968 United States 11/01/2015 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | true Christianity is an ENEMY to the elites fremasons/jesuit order which on higher level is based on satanism and Lucifer. Christ came to earth to break the original sin which was the serpent seed that was mixed with pure human seed/DNA since the garden of Eden when Eve was deceived by him. We still carry that corrupted seed but through Christ we are liberated if we so believe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41196747 United States 11/01/2015 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not interested. American Protestant Christianity doesn't interest me. A derivative, of a derivative until nothing much is left. I'm much more interested in the Greek Orthodox. In my opinion, the Orthodox are much closer to the original teaching of Jesus and the Church Fathers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44018881 What men are required for you to believe in Jesus Christ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70669378 United States 11/01/2015 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Isaiah 43:1-2 Only because it was "His time". Otherwise they would have failed the same as Herod failed. Actually Jesus didn't die. He over came death. So the Jews failed. Unless of course you are not sure about the resurrection. I have to ask. These days with all the accommodating toward Judo-Christianity, perhaps the resurrection is now not biblical. One needs to die in order to be resurrected. Wow, your hatred is even causing you to try to change God's Word. I don't see any accommodation for Judaism. I do, however, see much accommodation and compromise for Islam. It's amazing to me that one man, John Hagee, in his teachings can cause the entire community of believers and unbelievers to think that all Christians bend over backwards for the Jews. Perhaps you want to believe that so you can criticize all Christians who defend Israel? The body dies and turns to dust. But you are not a body. You are a soul made in the image of God. So there is no death of the soul. Jesus proved there is no death. As far as Hagee, I've never listen to him. It kind of obvious that Scofield Christians hold religious views about Israel/Jews that are unique in the history of Christianity, and wouldn't hold up to much scrutiny. You Israel loving Scofieldites are the enemy of America. If anyone ever writes the reason this country fell, it will be because American "Christians," embraced the secular Juadizing of this country instead of fighting for what was plainly right and decent and godly. There is no pathway to salvation for gentiles in the old testament god, Jesuscwas killed for teaching there was. So which is the false face of god, the old one or the new one? It cant be the same god, they are not the same entity, they are not identicle or equal. DOES GOD MAKE MISTAKES? |