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Right Wing Nazis: The Big Lie | |
| WeaponX2 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 70715433  United States11/03/2015 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| WeaponX2 (OP) User ID: 70715433 United States11/03/2015 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  ... I am so sick and tired of the slanderous leftist shibboleth of “right wing Nazi” I could scream. Wake up, people – please! The Nazis were, are, and forever will be LEFT wing. The left are recognized masters of a chameleon-like ability to switch from one innocuous sounding political label to another. “We the people” need to nail them down on this one at least. Whether you hate and despise the Nazis or consider them the best thing since sliced bread is irrelevant to my point here – which is, in case you missed it, that the Nazis were and are a Left wing phenomenon, as are all variants of fascism. It is vitally important that “we the people” get straight about this. Leave the Left to their delusions and verbal gymnastics; their tyrannies and bloodshed – “we the people” must deal in truth and, hopefully, a brighter future. |
| Dr Feelgood User ID: 70299275 United States11/03/2015 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anarchy is perhaps the most misunderstood concept in modern human society. Very basic. NO Government. None. It is not communist. It is the fucking opposite. Maybe I should make a visual aid, since amazingly some people, actually a lot of people, seem to have a hard time grasping this very very simple concept. I'm with you OP. Spread knowledge (though HOPEFULLY most people here already know this, but if not then now is a good time to learn. |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 11213558 United States11/03/2015 11:24 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anarchy is perhaps the most misunderstood concept in modern human society. Quoting: Dr Feelgood 70299275 Very basic. NO Government. None. It is not communist. It is the fucking opposite. Maybe I should make a visual aid, since amazingly some people, actually a lot of people, seem to have a hard time grasping this very very simple concept. I'm with you OP. Spread knowledge (though HOPEFULLY most people here already know this, but if not then now is a good time to learn. I'm glad you brought this up. I think that in the minds of those who consider Marxist systems to be the only legitimate form of government, the spectrum runs from National Socialism on the right to Communism on the left, with other variants in between. In Europe, and increasingly here in the US, there is no Conservative "right," with a limited government, God given rights and individual responsibility at the forefront, such as we know. The entire concept of God given rights, or natural rights, is rejected with little discussion, limited government is inconceivable, and individuals are not responsible for themselves but are the responsibility of the State. So those who have known nothing other than Marxist statism cannot even begin to comprehend what we consider right, their minds hitting a barricade at Nazism, which to them is as far right as their thought processes will take them. It is like trying to imagine a 4th dimension, the human brains stalls at 3 dimensions. And their brains stall at Nazism. To us it is Left, but to them it is Right. This is what I see happening. I rather like Statist and Individualist, with all flavors of Marxist based thought being Statist with various forms of application. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
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| JustChilling User ID: 67790386 United States11/04/2015 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to canadafreepress.com] Quoting: WeaponX2 “And there are moments when I curse myself for not having understood it earlier; for having let myself be fooled by the two ‘soccer-teams’ for so long. Dammit.”—Oriana Fallacci (1929-2006) “The Force of Reason” Traditionally the political spectrum in the United States runs from Big Government on the left side of the spectrum to no government at all (anarchy) on the extreme right of the spectrum. This is not rocket-science folks: Big Government on the left; limited or no government on the right> – capiche? Now you tell me, how do the Nazis, an offshoot of Big Government fascism, end up on the right side of the political spectrum (let alone the far right)? Go ahead, I’ll wait. I’ll save us any further delay—there is no legitimate reason for the Nazis to be labeled right wing, let alone “extreme” right wing. The fact that most people blithely accept the “common wisdom” that Nazis were/are a right wing ideology is due to the Left’s hugely successful ploy to foist one of their own worst failures onto the shoulders of the political right. This “Big Lie” is perhaps more responsible for muddying the waters of political discourse than any other single factor. Big Government ideologies belong on the LEFT side of the political spectrum—period. ...  Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
| Carol B. User ID: 66768164 United States11/04/2015 11:20 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to canadafreepress.com] Quoting: WeaponX2 “And there are moments when I curse myself for not having understood it earlier; for having let myself be fooled by the two ‘soccer-teams’ for so long. Dammit.”—Oriana Fallacci (1929-2006) “The Force of Reason” Traditionally the political spectrum in the United States runs from Big Government on the left side of the spectrum to no government at all (anarchy) on the extreme right of the spectrum. This is not rocket-science folks: Big Government on the left; limited or no government on the right> – capiche? Now you tell me, how do the Nazis, an offshoot of Big Government fascism, end up on the right side of the political spectrum (let alone the far right)? Go ahead, I’ll wait. I’ll save us any further delay—there is no legitimate reason for the Nazis to be labeled right wing, let alone “extreme” right wing. The fact that most people blithely accept the “common wisdom” that Nazis were/are a right wing ideology is due to the Left’s hugely successful ploy to foist one of their own worst failures onto the shoulders of the political right. This “Big Lie” is perhaps more responsible for muddying the waters of political discourse than any other single factor. Big Government ideologies belong on the LEFT side of the political spectrum—period. ... Yep, true that^^ Prayer.....the world's first wireless connection. |
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| Sky Ward User ID: 70700341 United States11/04/2015 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct on all accounts, OP. It's a shame that the term "Anarchy" has become synonymous with the term "Chaos", as the two are inherently unrelated. It does, however, show just how deeply embedded in the Zeitgeist "needing another human to control you" actually is. |
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| Dances With Fire User ID: 52680061 United States11/04/2015 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct on all accounts, OP. Quoting: Sky Ward It's a shame that the term "Anarchy" has become synonymous with the term "Chaos", as the two are inherently unrelated. It does, however, show just how deeply embedded in the Zeitgeist "needing another human to control you" actually is. So, how does a society implement anarchy? Free speech is never free. Well I know it wasn't you who held me down Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key - Eagles |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States11/04/2015 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to canadafreepress.com] Quoting: WeaponX2 “And there are moments when I curse myself for not having understood it earlier; for having let myself be fooled by the two ‘soccer-teams’ for so long. Dammit.”—Oriana Fallacci (1929-2006) “The Force of Reason” Traditionally the political spectrum in the United States runs from Big Government on the left side of the spectrum to no government at all (anarchy) on the extreme right of the spectrum. This is not rocket-science folks: Big Government on the left; limited or no government on the right> – capiche? Now you tell me, how do the Nazis, an offshoot of Big Government fascism, end up on the right side of the political spectrum (let alone the far right)? Go ahead, I’ll wait. I’ll save us any further delay—there is no legitimate reason for the Nazis to be labeled right wing, let alone “extreme” right wing. The fact that most people blithely accept the “common wisdom” that Nazis were/are a right wing ideology is due to the Left’s hugely successful ploy to foist one of their own worst failures onto the shoulders of the political right. This “Big Lie” is perhaps more responsible for muddying the waters of political discourse than any other single factor. Big Government ideologies belong on the LEFT side of the political spectrum—period. ... well said. There is no practical or significant difference between national socialists, fascists, communists and ordinary socialists. All of them are totalitarian freedom destroying systems. All of them share the same characteristics, gulags, secret police, mass murder, freisler courts, and on and on. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 11/04/2015 10:56 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53192340 United States11/04/2015 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Socialist are communists without guns... Communists are socialists with guns... Nazis are communists with guns and very Fancy uniforms... Fascists are Nazis with guns and ugly uniforms... Anarchists are Communists without organization... Conservatives are citizens with guns who want nothing to do with all of the above and want to be left alone... |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States11/04/2015 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Anarchists are Communists without organization.. " could be thought about some more. First there are different kinds of anarchists. AnCaps are anarcho capitalists not communists. The word anarchy itself merely means no rulers. It doesn't mean no laws or no rules. Anarchy is a normal state, every day people conduct peaceful interactions and transactions without some government telling them what they can and cannot do or buy or travel or watch or whatever. People have been brainwashed to think of anarchy itself as meaning chaos and the strong ruling the weak. There is no rule of law. That is pretty much what we have anyway isn't it? Some other words people use for a society based on the concept of the non aggression principle aka zero aggression principle are voluntaryist or abolitionist. Here is a video that more or less explains what exists now and why and how it could be better. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] or this one Statism is the most dangerous religion [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by s. d. butler on 11/04/2015 11:45 PM |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 11213558 United States11/04/2015 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Socialist are communists without guns... Quoting: Masiro Communists are socialists with guns... Nazis are communists with guns and very Fancy uniforms... Fascists are Nazis with guns and ugly uniforms... Anarchists are Communists without organization... Conservatives are citizens with guns who want nothing to do with all of the above and want to be left alone... LOL I passed that along! *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53192340 United States11/04/2015 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Anarchists are Communists without organization.. " could be thought about some more. Quoting: s. d. butler First there are different kinds of anarchists. AnCaps are anarcho capitalists not communists. The word anarchy itself merely means no rulers. It doesn't mean no laws or no rules. Anarchy is a normal state, every day people conduct peaceful interactions and transactions without some government telling them what they can and cannot do or buy or travel or watch or whatever. People have been brainwashed to think of anarchy itself as meaning chaos and the strong ruling the weak. There is no rule of law. That is pretty much what we have anyway isn't it? Some other words people use for a society based on the concept of the non aggression principle aka zero aggression principle are voluntaryist or abolitionist. Here is a video that more or less explains what exists now and why and how it could be better. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] or this one Statism is the most dangerous religion [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You probably think Old Gimlet eye was right... Truth be told he would have fought against anarchists as well even more passionately.... |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States11/05/2015 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Anarchists are Communists without organization.. " could be thought about some more. Quoting: s. d. butler First there are different kinds of anarchists. AnCaps are anarcho capitalists not communists. The word anarchy itself merely means no rulers. It doesn't mean no laws or no rules. Anarchy is a normal state, every day people conduct peaceful interactions and transactions without some government telling them what they can and cannot do or buy or travel or watch or whatever. People have been brainwashed to think of anarchy itself as meaning chaos and the strong ruling the weak. There is no rule of law. That is pretty much what we have anyway isn't it? Some other words people use for a society based on the concept of the non aggression principle aka zero aggression principle are voluntaryist or abolitionist. Here is a video that more or less explains what exists now and why and how it could be better. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] or this one Statism is the most dangerous religion [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You probably think Old Gimlet eye was right... Truth be told he would have fought against anarchists as well even more passionately.... He was right in War is a Racket. 1. yes, in his time a thirty year Marine general officer would have thought that about anarchists. Anarchists were considered differently in the early 20th century. 2. That is not this time. And I have provided reasons why and reasons why I believe you are mistaken in regard to your statement "anarchists are communists without organization". 3. If you have no wish to consider or respond to what I have written, and instead reply with an oblique attack, that is fine. Best of luck Last Edited by s. d. butler on 11/05/2015 12:20 AM |
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| Sky Ward User ID: 70700341 United States11/05/2015 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct on all accounts, OP. Quoting: Sky Ward It's a shame that the term "Anarchy" has become synonymous with the term "Chaos", as the two are inherently unrelated. It does, however, show just how deeply embedded in the Zeitgeist "needing another human to control you" actually is. So, how does a society implement anarchy? A society can no more implement anarchy than it can implement communism or capitalism. These terms are simply intellectual abstractions that attempt to describe the ideals of a given group or body. Upon practical examination, all social interactions exhibit near equal amounts communism, capitalism, anarchism, socialism, etc. Largely, resorting to these types of abstractions is just a means of denying the realities of the exploitations that people face -- a way of explaining them away, or an attempt to validate them.... a distraction. The only real problem facing humanity is the problem of overpopulation. Everything stems from this. With the right quantity of people, each of them can be of a different political disposition and it wouldn't matter in the least. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70649741  Netherlands11/05/2015 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to canadafreepress.com] Quoting: WeaponX2 “And there are moments when I curse myself for not having understood it earlier; for having let myself be fooled by the two ‘soccer-teams’ for so long. Dammit.”—Oriana Fallacci (1929-2006) “The Force of Reason” Traditionally the political spectrum in the United States runs from Big Government on the left side of the spectrum to no government at all (anarchy) on the extreme right of the spectrum. This is not rocket-science folks: Big Government on the left; limited or no government on the right> – capiche? Now you tell me, how do the Nazis, an offshoot of Big Government fascism, end up on the right side of the political spectrum (let alone the far right)? Go ahead, I’ll wait. I’ll save us any further delay—there is no legitimate reason for the Nazis to be labeled right wing, let alone “extreme” right wing. The fact that most people blithely accept the “common wisdom” that Nazis were/are a right wing ideology is due to the Left’s hugely successful ploy to foist one of their own worst failures onto the shoulders of the political right. This “Big Lie” is perhaps more responsible for muddying the waters of political discourse than any other single factor. Big Government ideologies belong on the LEFT side of the political spectrum—period. ... The reason why Nazis have been labeled far right is because of the controlled main stream media, whom happens to be controlled worldwide by 6 jewish companies. Nazi stands for "national socialism". Nationalism is viewed by the ptb as far right, because the ptb are trying to create a one world order and they are to the far left of the spectrum. However Nazi stands for national "SOCIALISM" and socialism is to the far left. The problem the international banksters/ptb has with the Nazi's is that the ptb are INTERNATIONAL socialists, thus anything to do with nationalism is bad and to the far right. Of course the ptb are socialist and they want to create a so called utopia where all men are equal, meaning that no man will own anything. Everything will be owned by the elite, whom of course will be more equal than the rest of humanity. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33921475 United States11/05/2015 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Socialist are communists without guns... Quoting: Masiro Communists are socialists with guns... Nazis are communists with guns and very Fancy uniforms... Fascists are Nazis with guns and ugly uniforms... Anarchists are Communists without organization... Conservatives are citizens with guns who want nothing to do with all of the above and want to be left alone... LOL I passed that along! You Passed Along Bullshit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70731223 United States11/05/2015 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys need to take some poli-sci classes. There's a myriad of political ideologies. Anarchy is not solely on the right. Go look up left wing anarchists, its not that uncommon. The Nazis were socialists but only for Aryans. They also worked closely with the industrialists of that era with little to no oversight (at least when it came to working conditions IE Jew slaves) which makes them free market capitalists as well. Now i know it gets confusing for those of u who are constantly trying to divide the world into 2 categories. right/left, good/bad, god/satan...but for the rest of us who have something called “insight” we know the world is complex with many grey areas. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70730956 Canada11/05/2015 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys need to take some poli-sci classes. There's a myriad of political ideologies. Anarchy is not solely on the right. Go look up left wing anarchists, its not that uncommon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70731223 The Nazis were socialists but only for Aryans. They also worked closely with the industrialists of that era with little to no oversight (at least when it came to working conditions IE Jew slaves) which makes them free market capitalists as well. Now i know it gets confusing for those of u who are constantly trying to divide the world into 2 categories. right/left, good/bad, god/satan...but for the rest of us who have something called “insight” we know the world is complex with many grey areas. The Nazis played the good cop of ww2 sacrifice |
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