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Abyss Lady User ID: 1274632 Latvia 11/23/2015 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So despite the priests/scientists telling us that earth is round for our whole life, when a person now can see with their own eyes, measurements and logic that earth is not round, this is blind faith? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70386723 Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) The Wrath is going to be Endless |
Hydra User ID: 70878014 Germany 11/23/2015 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :) hey, don't believe your own eyes, there are priests, trolls and "scientists" in the house, some even have phd's Yep, don't believe your own eyes. :curvedhor: The original: [link to novnet.org] (camera with 55mm focal length, representing the FOV of the human eye) As you can clearly see the horizon is not curved //sarcasm off Ok going to look into it, but first response would be different aircraft different cruising speeds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70869900 Flight itself could be BS, ... You can book it yourself: Qantas QF0027 [link to www.trade2win.com] [link to www.trade2win.com] Yep. Why do we disregard the fact that another flight stops in CA and TX for no logical reason whatsoever? That flight path must be amusing on the ball map. Quoting: HundredthMonkey I guess economy is not your long suit: Why do you disregard the fact that airlines work cost-efficient? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... |
Hydra User ID: 70878014 Germany 11/23/2015 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So despite the priests/scientists telling us that earth is round for our whole life, when a person now can see with their own eyes, measurements and logic that earth is not round, this is blind faith? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70386723 Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Yep. Btw.: I was out yesterday to make some pictures of the night sky. I was desperately looking for the Southern Cross. According to the Flat Earthers it should be about 30 deg above the horizon from my place in germany. Can you please help me and tell me, where I have to point my camera? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 70878014 Germany 11/23/2015 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . Perhaps I should also inform myself of a new definition of Global Positioning System? Perhaps GPS stands for Ground Positioning System? |
Abyss Lady User ID: 1274632 Latvia 11/23/2015 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So despite the priests/scientists telling us that earth is round for our whole life, when a person now can see with their own eyes, measurements and logic that earth is not round, this is blind faith? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70386723 Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Yep. Btw.: I was out yesterday to make some pictures of the night sky. I was desperately looking for the Southern Cross. According to the Flat Earthers it should be about 30 deg above the horizon from my place in germany. Can you please help me and tell me, where I have to point my camera? . Not sure. The only reasonable explanation is that Southern Cross, all pictures and videos of it are fake. Everyone, who lives "below" the equator is a member of this insane psyop club :) The Wrath is going to be Endless |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68696019 United States 11/23/2015 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . So you rely on a link of this flight and supposed flight time as proof? Then, it's not tracked, no biggie. And this is proof enough for you that the world is a globe? Sounds like you "want" to believe round earth badly. How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan when it should be some 1000 ft below the horizon? Refraction? No, any sunny day it can be seen and if you use a telescope, you can pinpoint features and nearly see the base of buildings. |
Hydra User ID: 69380918 Germany 11/23/2015 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . Perhaps I should also inform myself of a new definition of Global Positioning System? Perhaps GPS stands for Ground Positioning System? Then it should be easy to track the flight path in a Flat Earth. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 69380918 Germany 11/23/2015 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Yep. Btw.: I was out yesterday to make some pictures of the night sky. I was desperately looking for the Southern Cross. According to the Flat Earthers it should be about 30 deg above the horizon from my place in germany. Can you please help me and tell me, where I have to point my camera? . Not sure. The only reasonable explanation is that Southern Cross, all pictures and videos of it are fake. Everyone, who lives "below" the equator is a member of this insane psyop club :) I will post a picture of the Southern Cross tomorrow (I'm off until tomorrow evening). I took it in January ... when I was just at the equator. Meanwhile you could ask some Australians, if the Southern Cross is fake. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 69380918 Germany 11/23/2015 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . So you rely on a link of this flight and supposed flight time as proof? Then, it's not tracked, no biggie. And this is proof enough for you that the world is a globe? Sounds like you "want" to believe round earth badly. How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan when it should be some 1000 ft below the horizon? Refraction? No, any sunny day it can be seen and if you use a telescope, you can pinpoint features and nearly see the base of buildings. How about applying math in the correct way? Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! (Page 19) . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azaziah Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . Perhaps I should also inform myself of a new definition of Global Positioning System? Perhaps GPS stands for Ground Positioning System? Then it should be easy to track the flight path in a Flat Earth. . It should also be easy to track the flight, on a globe, using satellites. I believe satellites are supposed to flyover water as well as land. Curious that this flight has no GPS data for 90% of it flight over water. |
Abyss Lady User ID: 1274632 Latvia 11/23/2015 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Abyss Lady You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Yep. Btw.: I was out yesterday to make some pictures of the night sky. I was desperately looking for the Southern Cross. According to the Flat Earthers it should be about 30 deg above the horizon from my place in germany. Can you please help me and tell me, where I have to point my camera? . Not sure. The only reasonable explanation is that Southern Cross, all pictures and videos of it are fake. Everyone, who lives "below" the equator is a member of this insane psyop club :) I will post a picture of the Southern Cross tomorrow (I'm off until tomorrow evening). I took it in January ... when I was just at the equator. Meanwhile you could ask some Australians, if the Southern Cross is fake. . The whole Australia must be just a hoax then :) I haven't yet found out how big the hoax is and what % of Earth population are absolutely in it to deceive the remaining minority :) The Wrath is going to be Endless |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28508509 South Africa 11/23/2015 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So despite the priests/scientists telling us that earth is round for our whole life, when a person now can see with their own eyes, measurements and logic that earth is not round, this is blind faith? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70386723 Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Ridiculous map. How can it be dark on one side if it is flat? Why can we in the south not see the north star? Why is the moon upside down when viewed from the different poles? Flatheads are fucked in the head. |
Abyss Lady User ID: 1274632 Latvia 11/23/2015 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So despite the priests/scientists telling us that earth is round for our whole life, when a person now can see with their own eyes, measurements and logic that earth is not round, this is blind faith? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70386723 Flat Earth sounds good - but I have a little problem with it. Perhaps one of the Flat-Earthers can explain it to me. :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. Norway 4224 or Canada 6723 would you please care to explain? . You also must be part of the coverup/round earth hoax :) Everyone, who has done any South hemisphere flights is part of it :) Ridiculous map. How can it be dark on one side if it is flat? Why can we in the south not see the north star? Why is the moon upside down when viewed from the different poles? Flatheads are fucked in the head. I blame it on chemtrails :) The Wrath is going to be Endless |
QCluminati User ID: 70877837 Canada 11/23/2015 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro taugh me a new word yesterday "strawman". Reading through this thread its safe to say 95% of astro's post are strawmen and have nothing to do with gyroscopes proving the flat earth. I was also acused of wasting his precious time because being the "troll" that I am I can magically force him to read and post responses. I you are going to attempt to debunk something be prepared for some scrutiny and respond appropriately not like a child. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70868628 Glad to see you are back, Norway - perhaps you can solve the little problem below: :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. . Funny how australia is now larger than russia, isn't it? Unvaxxed because fuck you |
*Link* User ID: 69990137 United States 11/23/2015 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro taugh me a new word yesterday "strawman". Reading through this thread its safe to say 95% of astro's post are strawmen and have nothing to do with gyroscopes proving the flat earth. I was also acused of wasting his precious time because being the "troll" that I am I can magically force him to read and post responses. I you are going to attempt to debunk something be prepared for some scrutiny and respond appropriately not like a child. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70868628 Glad to see you are back, Norway - perhaps you can solve the little problem below: :feflights: If I take a direct flight from Tokyo, Japan to Milan, Italy it takes 12 hours and 30 minutes. A direct flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile is about 2.5 times the distance Tokyo-Milan in a flat Earth and thus should take about 31 hours. Nevertheless it takes only 12 hours and 40 minutes, almost the same time as the Tokyo-Milan flight. . Funny how australia is now larger than russia, isn't it? Maybe the square miles are a conspiracy too! "He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear." - Claudius Claudianus. Aka. Tatanka |
HundredthMonkey User ID: 69628162 United States 11/23/2015 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . Perhaps I should also inform myself of a new definition of Global Positioning System? Perhaps GPS stands for Ground Positioning System? Then it should be easy to track the flight path in a Flat Earth. . It should also be easy to track the flight, on a globe, using satellites. I believe satellites are supposed to flyover water as well as land. Curious that this flight has no GPS data for 90% of it flight over water. Ships are able to be tracked just fine. Explore their routes of travel for a bit. HundredthMonkey |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azaziah Perhaps I should also inform myself of a new definition of Global Positioning System? Perhaps GPS stands for Ground Positioning System? Then it should be easy to track the flight path in a Flat Earth. . It should also be easy to track the flight, on a globe, using satellites. I believe satellites are supposed to flyover water as well as land. Curious that this flight has no GPS data for 90% of it flight over water. Ships are able to be tracked just fine. Explore their routes of travel for a bit. Point taken. Then why not track this flight? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68696019 United States 11/23/2015 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azaziah Actually, there is some strangeness regarding this flight and flight tracker... About an hour or so after takeoff, the GPS location of the flight stops reporting and is listed as 'estimated'. It shows up briefly as reporting again over New Zealand, I think, and then once again is shown as 'estimated' for the long haul across the water. Then it suddenly re-appears about an hour before landing. I would have thought that tracking a long flight over water would be kind of important if there was trouble with the flight and rescue was needed... Perhaps you should inform yourself about how flight trackers work. Hint: ground based stations. . So you rely on a link of this flight and supposed flight time as proof? Then, it's not tracked, no biggie. And this is proof enough for you that the world is a globe? Sounds like you "want" to believe round earth badly. How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan when it should be some 1000 ft below the horizon? Refraction? No, any sunny day it can be seen and if you use a telescope, you can pinpoint features and nearly see the base of buildings. How about applying math in the correct way? Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! (Page 19) . I have. Mind expounding on what that link is supposed to lead me to? The math is right. You are wrong. Chicsgo should not be visible unless you want me to prove you wrong. I'll need to know what you want me to see in that link other than a shill whining. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 11/23/2015 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It should also be easy to track the flight, on a globe, using satellites. I believe satellites are supposed to flyover water as well as land. Curious that this flight has no GPS data for 90% of it flight over water. Ships are able to be tracked just fine. Explore their routes of travel for a bit. Point taken. Then why not track this flight? ADS-B signals have to be received by ground stations for "tracking websites" to track them. GPS satellites do not relay aircraft locations to ground stations. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70872699 United Kingdom 11/23/2015 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan when it should be some 1000 ft below the horizon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68696019 Refraction? No, any sunny day it can be seen and if you use a telescope, you can pinpoint features and nearly see the base of buildings. How about applying math in the correct way? Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! (Page 19) . I have. Mind expounding on what that link is supposed to lead me to? The math is right. You are wrong. Chicsgo should not be visible unless you want me to prove you wrong. I'll need to know what you want me to see in that link other than a shill whining. How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68696019 It 45 miles not 65. Use the distance measuring tool on Google maps. [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] What can you see? Here is a picture from New Buffalo, an inversion over the lake is allowing us to see more but without it how much would we see? [link to photographerscoop.wordpress.com (secure)] The horizon eye line is around 30 feet up, look at the lighthouse to see [link to foursquare.com (secure)] Using an observer 30 feet up, 45 miles away and this tool [link to www.cactus2000.de] We should be able to see everything in Chicago over 977 feet high. That is six buildings [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] including the top 475 feet of the Willis tower. That is pretty much what the photo shows. Trolling bullshit. I suppose you can aim your telescope south and see Juan in Santiago hold up a sign that says the Earth is flat. Pics or it didn't happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70872699 United Kingdom 11/23/2015 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look here [link to yumyummatt.wordpress.com (secure)] The Chicago skyline from around lake Michigan. As you get closer you see more ( tops of ) buildings. Exactly what you would expect on a spherical Earth. Look at the picture from Beverly Shores. Beverly Shores is actually 37 miles from Chicago. If the picture was taken at the lake side at eye level ( 5' ) then we would see [link to www.cactus2000.de] everything over 770', that is 13 buildings [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] the 14th would only just be marginally above the horizon. [link to lh3.googleusercontent.com (secure)] The site is pretty good evidence that not only is the Earth spherical but that its diameter is close to 8000 miles. |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azaziah It should also be easy to track the flight, on a globe, using satellites. I believe satellites are supposed to flyover water as well as land. Curious that this flight has no GPS data for 90% of it flight over water. Ships are able to be tracked just fine. Explore their routes of travel for a bit. Point taken. Then why not track this flight? ADS-B signals have to be received by ground stations for "tracking websites" to track them. GPS satellites do not relay aircraft locations to ground stations. I had to look it up from the FAA website: "Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast (ADS-B) is a precise satellite-based surveillance system. ADS-B Out uses GPS technology to determine an aircraft's location, airspeed and other data, and broadcasts that information to a network of ground stations, which relays the data to air traffic control displays and to nearby aircraft equipped to receive the data via ADS-B In. Operators of aircraft equipped with ADS-B In can receive weather and traffic position information delivered directly to the cockpit." This program is still being rolled out, and costs at least $5k to $6k per aircraft for the necessary equipment. Interesting. Also, it appears that the geographic limitations are not isolated to "tracking websites" but that this data is also used by Air Traffic Control I wonder what makes ships able to use GPS in areas where planes cannot? Really, I am just asking. Seems like a lot of expense (especially for General Aviation) for a system that cannot provide the same coverage enjoyed by shipping? Last Edited by Azaziah on 11/23/2015 12:00 PM |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 11/23/2015 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HundredthMonkey Ships are able to be tracked just fine. Explore their routes of travel for a bit. Point taken. Then why not track this flight? ADS-B signals have to be received by ground stations for "tracking websites" to track them. GPS satellites do not relay aircraft locations to ground stations. I had to look it up from the FAA website: "Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast (ADS-B) is a precise satellite-based surveillance system. ADS-B Out uses GPS technology to determine an aircraft's location, airspeed and other data, and broadcasts that information to a network of ground stations, which relays the data to air traffic control displays and to nearby aircraft equipped to receive the data via ADS-B In. Operators of aircraft equipped with ADS-B In can receive weather and traffic position information delivered directly to the cockpit." This program is still being rolled out, and costs at least $5k to $6k per aircraft for the necessary equipment. Interesting. I wonder what makes ships able to use GPS in areas where planes cannot? Really, I am just asking. Seems like a lot of expense (especially for General Aviation) for a system that cannot provide the same coverage enjoyed by shipping? No one said anything about the planes not being able to use GPS. You need ground stations to see where the fucking planes are on tracking websites, NOT to use GPS in general. Ships have dedicated satellite-based receivers for sending location data. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] This was initially tested using ISS, that thing you idiots think is fake. [link to www.esa.int] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 11/23/2015 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan when it should be some 1000 ft below the horizon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68696019 Refraction? No, any sunny day it can be seen and if you use a telescope, you can pinpoint features and nearly see the base of buildings. How about applying math in the correct way? Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! (Page 19) . I have. Mind expounding on what that link is supposed to lead me to? The math is right. You are wrong. Chicsgo should not be visible unless you want me to prove you wrong. I'll need to know what you want me to see in that link other than a shill whining. How can is see the chicago skyline from New Buffalo, MI, 65 miles across Lake Michigan Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68696019 It 45 miles not 65. Use the distance measuring tool on Google maps. [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] What can you see? Here is a picture from New Buffalo, an inversion over the lake is allowing us to see more but without it how much would we see? [link to photographerscoop.wordpress.com (secure)] The horizon eye line is around 30 feet up, look at the lighthouse to see [link to foursquare.com (secure)] Using an observer 30 feet up, 45 miles away and this tool [link to www.cactus2000.de] We should be able to see everything in Chicago over 977 feet high. That is six buildings [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] including the top 475 feet of the Willis tower. That is pretty much what the photo shows. Trolling bullshit. I suppose you can aim your telescope south and see Juan in Santiago hold up a sign that says the Earth is flat. Pics or it didn't happen. I'm not trolling. You can be standing right next to the water or be on the water and see the skyline. It's not an inversion. You're a liar. I live here, I don't care about all of your side stepping bullshit and obfuscating. You don't have to be 30' up. Lie #1 It's not refraction or inversion. You can be in a boat and see it the entire way across. Exposing your lie #2 Your picture clearly shows the better half of the Sears Tower, if we are to only see buildings whom apex 1000', we'd only see about 3. Lie number 3 exposed I can't stand idiots like yourself. You don't even live here. Today, I can see the skyline across the lake. Any day of little atmospheric disturbance, there it is. Keep lying, troll. You make your side look bad |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70439942 United States 11/23/2015 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the simple fact that there are a preponderance (Billions+) of observable spherical, circular, elliptical, spiral and disk shaped (Saturn rings IN PLANETARY ORBIT) objects... make it a mathematical certainty that planets are not flat and are in fact spheres... Earth is a planet it is spherical |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 11/23/2015 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70872699 [link to yumyummatt.wordpress.com (secure)] The Chicago skyline from around lake Michigan. As you get closer you see more ( tops of ) buildings. Exactly what you would expect on a spherical Earth. Look at the picture from Beverly Shores. Beverly Shores is actually 37 miles from Chicago. If the picture was taken at the lake side at eye level ( 5' ) then we would see [link to www.cactus2000.de] everything over 770', that is 13 buildings [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] the 14th would only just be marginally above the horizon. [link to lh3.googleusercontent.com (secure)] The site is pretty good evidence that not only is the Earth spherical but that its diameter is close to 8000 miles. Tired of your selective garbage, troll. Here's one from 50 miles. It's all about atmospheric disturbance. Here's what it really looks like from New Buffalo, not the trash you posted. [link to www.flickr.com (secure)] Fucking liar. From England and trying to tell me what the skyline looks like. Fucking proven liar you are |
Azaziah User ID: 19587383 United States 11/23/2015 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ADS-B signals have to be received by ground stations for "tracking websites" to track them. GPS satellites do not relay aircraft locations to ground stations. I had to look it up from the FAA website: "Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast (ADS-B) is a precise satellite-based surveillance system. ADS-B Out uses GPS technology to determine an aircraft's location, airspeed and other data, and broadcasts that information to a network of ground stations, which relays the data to air traffic control displays and to nearby aircraft equipped to receive the data via ADS-B In. Operators of aircraft equipped with ADS-B In can receive weather and traffic position information delivered directly to the cockpit." This program is still being rolled out, and costs at least $5k to $6k per aircraft for the necessary equipment. Interesting. I wonder what makes ships able to use GPS in areas where planes cannot? Really, I am just asking. Seems like a lot of expense (especially for General Aviation) for a system that cannot provide the same coverage enjoyed by shipping? No one said anything about the planes not being able to use GPS. You need ground stations to see where the fucking planes are on tracking websites, NOT to use GPS in general. Ships have dedicated satellite-based receivers for sending location data. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] This was initially tested using ISS, that thing you idiots think is fake. [link to www.esa.int] So help me understand, Astro... you are saying that a flight like the one in question, when it is beyond the range of a ground station, is not trackable from the ground? Meaning that the only people that actually know the planes location are the pilots, because they are receiving GPS data, correct? Interesting. If true, that makes a long-haul flight a bit more worrisome for the passengers and crew. |