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No Dhimmi  User ID: 22216844  United States11/15/2015 07:44 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Let's see if you can weasel your way out of this one, No Dhimmi: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70814129 Isaiah 11:1-3 The Branch From Jesse 11 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. 2 The Spirit of YHWH will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of YHWH— 3 and he will delight in the fear of YHWH. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; Fearing YHWH, not being YHWH. Delight in the fear of YHWH.  What's repulsive is know you'll try. Already responded and your base of reasoning is flawed and your understanding is lacking so even a counter-argument would not register with your gross misinterpretation of the Word ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. |
| No Dhimmi User ID: 22216844 United States11/15/2015 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 It would be outrageous if the God of the universe did not provide us with His inspired Word leaving us uneducated in His design, plan and future goals. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 It would be outrageous if the God of the universe did not provide us with His inspired Word leaving us uneducated in His design, plan and future goals. My point being that he did a piss-poor job of it. It should not be possible to criticize the supreme ruler of the universe, yet it is not just possible, it is highly probable. Why? Because God is nothing but an imagination of man, and so can never be more than human in every imperfect way. The God of the bible is a joke. I am not impressed. |
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| No Dhimmi User ID: 22216844 United States11/15/2015 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 It would be outrageous if the God of the universe did not provide us with His inspired Word leaving us uneducated in His design, plan and future goals. My point being that he did a piss-poor job of it. It should not be possible to criticize the supreme ruler of the universe, yet it is not just possible, it is highly probable. Why? Because God is nothing but an imagination of man, and so can never be more than human in every imperfect way. The God of the bible is a joke. I am not impressed. If I am wrong - I have lost nothing If you are wrong - you have lost everything ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70814129  Sweden11/15/2015 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Let's see if you can weasel your way out of this one, No Dhimmi: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70814129 Isaiah 11:1-3 The Branch From Jesse 11 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. 2 The Spirit of YHWH will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of YHWH— 3 and he will delight in the fear of YHWH. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; Fearing YHWH, not being YHWH. Delight in the fear of YHWH. If you truly understood the actual doctrine of the Trinity you would see it makes perfect sense - your problem is you do not understand the Trinity so all your arguments are built on sand easily washed away I bet I understand it better than you do. You can't even motivate how you're not a polytheist. The anointed servant of YHWH will fear YHWH, problem? That's not consistent with trinitarism. That's why the Vatican are actively combating using God's name?. And YHWH is not man (Number 23:19). But sure, let's do some trinitarian dogma, I've already proven you a liar. The most foundational doctrine of the trinity is homousian nature of the three in one God. This Gnostic concept was suggested by emperor Constantine himself at Nicea after prior rejection at the synodsmof Antioch, but still took several ecumenical councils to develop. The problem however is... I don't recall God ever delving into the ontological nature of His essence/substance/ousia. Can you refer to any versed? Also explain how Jesus grew in wisdom and didn't known the day and hour. |
| DGN User ID: 70420708 United States11/15/2015 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 It would be outrageous if the God of the universe did not provide us with His inspired Word leaving us uneducated in His design, plan and future goals. And... it would be outrageous of God to look the other way and not judge us for what we've done to his ecosystem; "We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” Rv11:18 |
| No Dhimmi User ID: 22216844 United States11/15/2015 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Let's see if you can weasel your way out of this one, No Dhimmi: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70814129 Isaiah 11:1-3 The Branch From Jesse 11 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. 2 The Spirit of YHWH will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of YHWH— 3 and he will delight in the fear of YHWH. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; Fearing YHWH, not being YHWH. Delight in the fear of YHWH. If you truly understood the actual doctrine of the Trinity you would see it makes perfect sense - your problem is you do not understand the Trinity so all your arguments are built on sand easily washed away I bet I understand it better than you do. You can't even motivate how you're not a polytheist. The anointed servant of YHWH will fear YHWH, problem? That's not consistent with trinitarism. That's why the Vatican are actively combating using God's name?. And YHWH is not man (Number 23:19). But sure, let's do some trinitarian dogma, I've already proven you a liar. The most foundational doctrine of the trinity is homousian nature of the three in one God. This Gnostic concept was suggested by emperor Constantine himself at Nicea after prior rejection at the synodsmof Antioch, but still took several ecumenical councils to develop. The problem however is... I don't recall God ever delving into the ontological nature of His essence/substance/ousia. Can you refer to any versed? Also explain how Jesus grew in wisdom and didn't known the day and hour. Again, you prove your ignorance of something you try tod debate,poorly I might add The trinity - In the nature of the One God there are three persons who share the same attributes, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, in effect, the three person are the ONE GOD - There are not three gods Your inability to understand and deny the WHOLE Word is on your head. I bid you good night. May the Lord have mercy on your soul. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
| Sunny Daze User ID: 14751920 United States11/15/2015 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? it is verifiable that the IQ of JWs is the LOWEST of all denominations ... they frown on professional people in their midst, because their leaders know that it doesn't take smart people very long to expose this religion as a book selling buisness, where people sell door to door, without being paid, and all profits go to the men at the top of their hierarchy who produce the books ... required by the members the fact that their weekly lessons are produced in comic-book form, is your first clue - to the collective lack of intelligence of their members ... and the second clue is the fact that they have altered the scriptures to fit their dogma, and your final clue is that their repeated failed predictions for "the end of the world" don't seem to effect the members .... duh Last Edited by Sunny Daze on 11/15/2015 08:01 PM |
| CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States11/15/2015 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Once it is perceived that Jehovah’s Witnesses are only interested in what they can make the Scriptures say, and not in what the Holy Spirit has already perfectly revealed, then the careful student will reject entirely Jehovah’s Witnesses and their Watchtower “translation.” These are as “blind leaders of the blind” (Matthew 15:14), “turning the grace of God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ” (Jude 4). Further, that they wrest the Scriptures unto their own destruction (2 Peter 3:16), the foregoing evidence has thoroughly revealed for all to judge. Quoting: No Dhimmi So....okay....so can you fill in for them then and conduct the preaching work of God's Kingdom in over 235 Lands with well over eight million Bible studies....I would say the holy spirit plays quite the role in them fullfilling that scripture Your reasoning above is false, I could replace JW with LDS and would you agree they are the holders of truth? [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? It is outrageous to imagine that a God would judge his creation based on how they choose to interpret a 2,000 year old book of ambiguous, symbolic, contradictory information written in at least three different dead languages. Just that fact alone is enough to disbelieve in the Bible as divine or in God as a legitimate authority in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 It would be outrageous if the God of the universe did not provide us with His inspired Word leaving us uneducated in His design, plan and future goals. My point being that he did a piss-poor job of it. It should not be possible to criticize the supreme ruler of the universe, yet it is not just possible, it is highly probable. Why? Because God is nothing but an imagination of man, and so can never be more than human in every imperfect way. The God of the bible is a joke. I am not impressed. If I am wrong - I have lost nothing If you are wrong - you have lost everything If you have lost nothing, then by all means, live your life as you wish and enjoy it to the fullest, as long as you do no harm to your fellow man and respect their freedom to live their life. I am pretty confident, based on my research and analysis of available evidence, that I am not wrong. If I am, though, then by any concept of justice, I expect no retribution. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61859342 United States11/15/2015 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? How would you feel about your spouse if he/she were jealous, mean, a murderer, a racial supremacist for his/her chosen, greedy, hateful, vengeful and a liar? What would you do? |
| DGN User ID: 70420708 United States11/15/2015 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Once it is perceived that Jehovah’s Witnesses are only interested in what they can make the Scriptures say, and not in what the Holy Spirit has already perfectly revealed, then the careful student will reject entirely Jehovah’s Witnesses and their Watchtower “translation.” These are as “blind leaders of the blind” (Matthew 15:14), “turning the grace of God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ” (Jude 4). Further, that they wrest the Scriptures unto their own destruction (2 Peter 3:16), the foregoing evidence has thoroughly revealed for all to judge. Quoting: No Dhimmi So....okay....so can you fill in for them then and conduct the preaching work of God's Kingdom in over 235 Lands with well over eight million Bible studies....I would say the holy spirit plays quite the role in them fullfilling that scripture Your reasoning above is false, I could replace JW with LDS and would you agree they are the holders of truth? [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] LDS holders of truth? Where are they, GLP is an international lighthouse of knowledge/debate/rebuttal.... ???? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70814129 Sweden11/15/2015 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? Let's see if you can weasel your way out of this one, No Dhimmi: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70814129 Isaiah 11:1-3 The Branch From Jesse 11 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. 2 The Spirit of YHWH will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of YHWH— 3 and he will delight in the fear of YHWH. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; Fearing YHWH, not being YHWH. Delight in the fear of YHWH. If you truly understood the actual doctrine of the Trinity you would see it makes perfect sense - your problem is you do not understand the Trinity so all your arguments are built on sand easily washed away I bet I understand it better than you do. You can't even motivate how you're not a polytheist. The anointed servant of YHWH will fear YHWH, problem? That's not consistent with trinitarism. That's why the Vatican are actively combating using God's name?. And YHWH is not man (Number 23:19). But sure, let's do some trinitarian dogma, I've already proven you a liar. The most foundational doctrine of the trinity is homousian nature of the three in one God. This Gnostic concept was suggested by emperor Constantine himself at Nicea after prior rejection at the synodsmof Antioch, but still took several ecumenical councils to develop. The problem however is... I don't recall God ever delving into the ontological nature of His essence/substance/ousia. Can you refer to any versed? Also explain how Jesus grew in wisdom and didn't known the day and hour. Again, you prove your ignorance of something you try tod debate,poorly I might add The trinity - In the nature of the One God there are three persons who share the same attributes, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, in effect, the three person are the ONE GOD - There are not three gods Your inability to understand and deny the WHOLE Word is on your head. I bid you good night. May the Lord have mercy on your soul. Haha. Tired all of a sudden, huh? I knew you wouldn't deliver. Thanks for letting me use you as a prop for displaying the truth for those mislead ones reading thread and to demonstrate just how easily God's clear word exposes the lie. The servant of YHWH, not YHWH. Speaking the words of YHWH so the voice of YHWH wouldn't be heard. (We never got to that one, Deu. 18:18, but there's no use beating a dead horse I guess) Fearing YHWH, not being YHWH. And who will TRUE worshippers worship? Jesus' own words. John 4:22-24 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. That's right, Him alone. |
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| CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States11/15/2015 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? it is verifiable that the IQ of JWs is the LOWEST of all denominations ... they frown on professional people in their midst, because their leaders know that it doesn't take smart people very long to expose this religion as a book selling buisness, where people sell door to door, without being paid, and all profits go to the men at the top of their hierarchy who produce the books ... required by the members Quoting: Sunny Daze the fact that their weekly lessons are produced in comic-book form, is your first clue - to the collective lack of intelligence of their members ... and the second clue is the fact that they have altered the scriptures to fit their dogma, and your final clue is that their repeated failed predictions for "the end of the world" don't seem to effect the members .... duh Well....uh I guess |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70512874 United States11/15/2015 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? They claim that their leaders are men appointed by holy spirit, and that Jesus Christ is in control of the congregation... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 Yet men are appointed who are pedophiles and molesters, why would Jesus or God allow this to happen? Not even broaching the subject of how these were dealt with (or not, as the case may be) when the predilections came to light, is the all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful Creator directing this organization, or not? This is just a fraction of a portion of why I hate Jehovah's Witnesses and all religions for that matter. Don't even try to give me your pathetic, convoluted explanation for why things are the way they are, yet at the same time there can be a Loving Heavenly Father. Aside from that extreme, I have personal experiences with so-called "men of faith" in the congregation who were nothing more than bullies and politicians. Shameful, and in no way Christ-like. Again, is Christ in control of his congregation, or not? Your Jehovah can be bothered to use his precious holy spirit to direct his Witnesses to find people looking for Truth, but not to stop a child from being raped by an Elder? Yeah, okay. I say, not. It is a flawed, human organization, like all other flawed, human organizations, based on ancient myths and fairy tales. I will waste no more of my precious short life on ANY religion or made-up invisible man in the sky, all-powerful, yet completely worthless. The ultimate "dead-beat dad". There is NO excuse for his perpetual inaction. Those who follow it, if they find peace there, I am happy for them, and that it gives them contentment on their deathbed. Don't tell me you have a monopoly on Truth because it's all bullshit.  to most of this: However, there is the God of Truth which infuses with you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? How would you feel about your spouse if he/she were jealous, mean, a murderer, a racial supremacist for his/her chosen, greedy, hateful, vengeful and a liar? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61859342 What would you do? Careful, you're asking for independent thinking and reasoning. That's not allowed in religion. Oh, it's okay to question what you believe if it means you're going to convert to JW, but once you drink the Kool-Aid you have to turn your brains off and never question anything again... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52182827  Iceland11/15/2015 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."- Matthew 24:14 Quoting: CelestialMaiden They like many other deceived churches support extreme prohibition that enables human trafficking and arbitrary violation of rights, the dragons tail is the war on drugs and its head the war on the ensuing terror; ouroboros, níð höggur translates into blow against the defenceless and it's shaking the entire world without thought or mercy. End the war on drugs and investigate the war crimes committed as treason, human trafficking and child abuse/exploitation. |
| DGN User ID: 70420708 United States11/15/2015 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? To again answer the OP's question, here's a quick answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 Because they are morally arrogant life snobs. Like this? "When he saw the crowds he went up into the mountain; and after he sat down his disciples came to him; 2 and he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. 6 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7 “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9 “Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called ‘sons of God.’ 10 “Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 11 “Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU. 13 “YOU are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything but to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men. 14 “YOU are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when situated upon a mountain. 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under the measuring basket, but upon the lampstand, and it shines upon all those in the house. 16 Likewise let YOUR light shine before men, that they may see YOUR fine works and give glory to YOUR Father who is in the heavens." Mt5  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? To again answer the OP's question, here's a quick answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68799637 Because they are morally arrogant life snobs. Like this? "When he saw the crowds he went up into the mountain; and after he sat down his disciples came to him; 2 and he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. 6 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7 “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9 “Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called ‘sons of God.’ 10 “Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 11 “Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU. 13 “YOU are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything but to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men. 14 “YOU are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when situated upon a mountain. 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under the measuring basket, but upon the lampstand, and it shines upon all those in the house. 16 Likewise let YOUR light shine before men, that they may see YOUR fine works and give glory to YOUR Father who is in the heavens." Mt5 Yes, precisely like that. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68799637 United States11/15/2015 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? There are no "special" people that have some kind of priviledge excelling over others... Quoting: CelestialMaiden Are you kidding? That is exactly how JW's and all fundamentalist Christians for that matter see themselves!? Morally superior, in the "secret club", the favored of God, while all those who don't know the secret handshake will either be destroyed at Armageddon, or burn in Hell. Which deep down brings you a perverse glee, a sick pride in being better than that |
| Nine's User ID: 68788019 United States11/15/2015 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? what if many are already living the Kingdom within now that are not even part of religions? Quoting: New Heart Because the Kingdom is not "within" us, it is a real government...with a King...... There are no "special" people that have some kind of priviledge excelling over others... ????? So what happened to the often quoted Matt. 13:11 Jesus answered them, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 11/15/2015 09:03 PM |
| CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States11/15/2015 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? There are no "special" people that have some kind of priviledge excelling over others... Quoting: CelestialMaiden Are you kidding? That is exactly how JW's and all fundamentalist Christians for that matter see themselves!? Morally superior, in the "secret club", the favored of God, while all those who don't know the secret handshake will either be destroyed at Armageddon, or burn in Hell. Which deep down brings you a perverse glee, a sick pride in being better than that Since when is striving for better morals make one in a "secret club"? God's moral's are available to all...there is no secret Hey and be careful not to make such a broad judgement...when in actuality, you have never met or gotten to know the over eight million Jehovah's Witnesses....do you know each one and their thoughts, feelings, struggles, successes, etc etc? When you do, get back to us and judge each one accordingly SAVY? |
| DGN User ID: 70420708 United States11/15/2015 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? what if many are already living the Kingdom within now that are not even part of religions? Quoting: New Heart Heal those old scars Newheart and let them go, I know from whence I speaketh "Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another." ...it's just dust in the wind, don't get swept away with it....let it go... Mt24:10 "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” Rv7:9  Last Edited by DGN on 11/15/2015 09:13 PM |
| CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States11/15/2015 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A world of terrorism, sickness, death, depression....why are Jehovah's Witnesses hated so much for sharing the only true solution to all of this? what if many are already living the Kingdom within now that are not even part of religions? Quoting: New Heart Because the Kingdom is not "within" us, it is a real government...with a King...... There are no "special" people that have some kind of priviledge excelling over others... ????? So what happened to the often quoted Matt. 13:11 Jesus answered them, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. No, you tell us.... Read the context...Jesus was speaking to his disciples....those whose hearts were in the right place with Christ, that is why he chose them in the first place.. Was Christ "Hiding" knowledge from all others? Or could it be that Christ showed a bit of accountability on the part of his listeners? " So the disciples came up and said to him: “Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11 In reply he said: “To YOU it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted. 12 For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13 This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it; 14 and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says, ‘By hearing, YOU will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, YOU will look but by no means see. 15 For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.’- Matthew 13;10-15 |
