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Rose-Cross - Illuminati Agenda !

 
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The Rose-Cross or Rosicrucians

These are a group of people pushing the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda.

They are luciferians. This means they are people with huge ego's.

This all comes down to the strugle of light and darkness ever since the time of adam and eve.

But they have a goal... to create a new atlantis or new age that takes over the whole world.

Just look here yourself at thier own misson statement on a rose and cross website.


[link to www.crcsite.org]


Ill paste the last few paragraphs here that iam talking about :

"Sir Francis Bacon wrote of the "New Atlantis," and many thought that he referred to America. But from our perspective, it is time to realize he did not consider a particular place, but rather a condition of a universal nature to be the "New Atlantis." Plato, in the Timaeus, Critias, and The Republic, wrote of the "old" Atlantis. In the traditional sense, the "Old Atlantis" failed--or did it? The "New Atlantis" is our decision to make.

This is indeed a crucial time. We are beset by ignorance as well as ambition and power. Even our Order has felt the effects of self-serving individuals and groups who do not want to, or cannot, recognize the mission. But such can only be expected. This is the world condition. What will it become? Indeed, our work now is the most difficult, and not everything is clear to everyone. Each of us needs to recognize this situation so that we can know what to do.

Do not be misled into thinking that there is a battle between Light and Darkness. There is only Light. We serve Light. Darkness is an illusion. Although it is true that Darkness has been created into a reality, it is still an illusion nonetheless.

We do not fight illusions; we transcend them. But all of this is well stated in our teachings, rituals, and traditions, and, as the mission has dictated for over 3000 years, in our hearts. We face a difficult task, but we have been well taught. "
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They say they serve the light. But the light to them is the light of LUCIFER

Its thier ego that makes them think they know pure intellect. But all they know is despotism and illusion !
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The Rose-Cross or Rosicrucians

These are a group of people pushing the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda.

They are luciferians. This means they are people with huge ego's.

This all comes down to the strugle of light and darkness ever since the time of adam and eve.

But they have a goal... to create a new atlantis or new age that takes over the whole world.

Just look here yourself at thier own misson statement on a rose and cross website.


[link to www.crcsite.org]


Ill paste the last few paragraphs here that iam talking about :

"Sir Francis Bacon wrote of the "New Atlantis," and many thought that he referred to America. But from our perspective, it is time to realize he did not consider a particular place, but rather a condition of a universal nature to be the "New Atlantis." Plato, in the Timaeus, Critias, and The Republic, wrote of the "old" Atlantis. In the traditional sense, the "Old Atlantis" failed--or did it? The "New Atlantis" is our decision to make.

This is indeed a crucial time. We are beset by ignorance as well as ambition and power. Even our Order has felt the effects of self-serving individuals and groups who do not want to, or cannot, recognize the mission. But such can only be expected. This is the world condition. What will it become? Indeed, our work now is the most difficult, and not everything is clear to everyone. Each of us needs to recognize this situation so that we can know what to do.

Do not be misled into thinking that there is a battle between Light and Darkness. There is only Light. We serve Light. Darkness is an illusion. Although it is true that Darkness has been created into a reality, it is still an illusion nonetheless.

We do not fight illusions; we transcend them. But all of this is well stated in our teachings, rituals, and traditions, and, as the mission has dictated for over 3000 years, in our hearts. We face a difficult task, but we have been well taught. "
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But these are just your conclusions.
Matter is light. Energy is light. We are all light beings.

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This is thier mission statement from thier own website.

Its pretty clear that they wish to usher in this new age they felt they had before.

They want a new Atlantis over the entire world.

They want comeplete Secular control
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This is thier mission statement from thier own website.

Its pretty clear that they wish to usher in this new age they felt they had before.

They want a new Atlantis over the entire world.

They want comeplete Secular control
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The Rose-Cross or Rosicrucians

These are a group of people pushing the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda.

They are luciferians. This means they are people with huge ego's.

This all comes down to the strugle of light and darkness ever since the time of adam and eve.

But they have a goal... to create a new atlantis or new age that takes over the whole world.

Just look here yourself at thier own misson statement on a rose and cross website.

Nope these are your conclusions.
Matter is light. Energy is light. We are all light beings.

-Albert Einstein-

My Hobby: [link to www.radiogalaxy.eu]

....and so came the time of the X° and last Crusade, for Truth and Liberation...
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Ya but its not my point, I direct you agian to thier own words.

Look at the connection they are making between the "New Atlantis" and making it a Universal world order.

Its explination is quite obvious to me.

What does it mean to you ?
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10/11/2006 12:45 PM
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OP: you really do need to do more in-depth research into the Rosicrucian Order. There are many differnt sects who claim to represent the Rosicrucian the teachings [including the bogus one you linked].

The original North American branch is still located in San Jose, CA and when you see the initials 'AMORC' you'll know you've found the Rosicrucian Order that can trace its beginnings back to the earliest origins of these teachings. Do not assume to understand these teachings unless you have experienced them first hand.

BTW: I've been a member of the San Francisco-based Francis Bacon Lodge [and a practicing Rosicrucian] for over 30 years and can attest that the NWO isn't even remotely displayed in the teachings to which I refer you.
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Mastery of Life

The Mastery of Life is a free introduction to the teachings of AMORC. It deals with many basic philosophical questions from the AMORC Rosicrucian perspective and gives an overview of the Order.

For more info go to --
[link to www.answers.com]

www.rosicrucian.org

In 1990 there was a dispute over the leadership of the AMORC, which was then under the leadership of Imperator Gary L. Stewart. This move was prompted by allegations made by a few members of the Board Directors of financial wrongdoing on the part of Stewart. A lawsuit was filed and the subsequent out-of-court settlement in 1993 prompted a severing of any relationship between Stewart and AMORC. Christian Bernard had previously assumed Stewart's office after a vote of the Grand Lodge officers in April, 1990. An installation ritual was held at the then "Supreme Grand Lodge" temple in San Jose, California.

AMORC and New Organizations

The events of 1990 resulted in the firing of Imperator Stewart and his replacement with Christian Bernard, then Grand Master of France. After his installation, Bernard relocated the Supreme Grand Lodge from San Jose, CA to Quebec, Canada. This move was not welcomed by many American members. Since then several new Rosicrucian Organizations have been started. The "Ancient Rosae Crucis" in Dallas, Texas, led by Ashley McFadden and the Confraternity of the Rose Cross, led by former AMORC Imperator Stewart, which uses the older Spencerian version of the Order's monographs as opposed to the monographs currently used by AMORC. Stewart also founded the Order Militia Crucifera Evangelica, loosely based on the MCE (Militia Crucifera Evangelica) that was originally created by AMORC and the British Martinist Order which is entirely unrelated to the one sponsored by AMORC.
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That still dosent explain what these people are saying. You are just trying to seperate yourselfs from this...

They are obviously a legit rosicrucian group, this is an occultic site of a much higher level then the AMORC

AMORC is where the Rosicrucians put forward thier best face. As the masons do, they are cleaning up thier appearance and trying to recruit members.

AMORC has only been operating since 1915.

This order and thier Agenda is much much older.
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I am beginning to think that this "New Atlantis" is somehow related to the "Tower of Babel". That the Third Temple of Solomon is really a reproduction of Nebuchadnezzar's and this all is an attempt to serve Lucifer, the bringer of light and knowledge...Quetzecoatl, Kulkulkan, The Jewish Mesiah, and many others who have promised to come back and teach humankind once again...any ideas on this?
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So far what I understand about this new atlantis is that at first it was america. In the sence that they came to the new world and tryed to create a pagan utopia.

They used things like the 47th problem of Euclid in the construction of washington DC.

This 47th problem of Euclid is a rosicrusian occult idea of the trinity. And many other pagan / masonic symbols were used to construct new america.

Like the statue of liberty also is a pagan symbol. Its the Great Whore the queen of babylon.

And thier plan is to have control over the secular agian. They were trying to create a secular government here with the seperation of church and state. You see secular is the opposite of spiritual.

They seem to think they had this kind of control before when atlantis was in its prime. And then it was Deystroyed by god.

Now they strive to get complete control of the secular world agian but this time they want it to be complete. They want to bring forth thier total global new world order. No longer can ther ego and lust for power be satisfied by the old atlantis... they want the world and every soul in it.
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I just want you to know I can see though your masks.

You play with my world like its your little toy.

You put a gun in my hand and you hide from my eye's.

And you turn and run farther when the fast bullets fly.
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So far what I understand about this new atlantis is that at first it was america. In the sence that they came to the new world and tryed to create a pagan utopia.


per walker percy in LOVE IN THE RUINS


Was it the nigger business from the beginning? What a bad joke: God saying, here it is, the new Eden, and it is yours because you're the apple of my eye; because you the lordly Westerners, the fierce Caucasian-Gentile-Visigoths, believed in me and the outlandish Jewish Event even though you were nowhere near it and had to hear the news of it from strangers. But you believed and so I gave it all to you, gave you Israel and Greece and science and art and the lordship of the earth, and finally even gave you the new world that I blessed for you. And all you had to do was pass one little test, which was surely child's play for you had already passed the big one.

One little test: here's a helpless man in Africa, all you have to do is not violate him. That's all.

One little test: you flunk!
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If you read the introductory info on www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org,you will clearly see,that those Rosicrucians strive for the Inner Kingdom of Heaven,mankinds'True Abode,through the unfoldment of the Divine spark within,nothing to do with worldly aims in a dualistic Earth realm.
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You talk alot about it but do you really know an actual person who is in the Cult....I actually do.....
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The Rose-Cross or Rosicrucians

These are a group of people pushing the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda.

They are luciferians. This means they are people with huge ego's.

This all comes down to the strugle of light and darkness ever since the time of adam and eve.

But they have a goal... to create a new atlantis or new age that takes over the whole world.

Just look here yourself at thier own misson statement on a rose and cross website.


[link to www.crcsite.org]


Ill paste the last few paragraphs here that iam talking about :

"Sir Francis Bacon wrote of the "New Atlantis," and many thought that he referred to America. But from our perspective, it is time to realize he did not consider a particular place, but rather a condition of a universal nature to be the "New Atlantis." Plato, in the Timaeus, Critias, and The Republic, wrote of the "old" Atlantis. In the traditional sense, the "Old Atlantis" failed--or did it? The "New Atlantis" is our decision to make.

This is indeed a crucial time. We are beset by ignorance as well as ambition and power. Even our Order has felt the effects of self-serving individuals and groups who do not want to, or cannot, recognize the mission. But such can only be expected. This is the world condition. What will it become? Indeed, our work now is the most difficult, and not everything is clear to everyone. Each of us needs to recognize this situation so that we can know what to do.

Do not be misled into thinking that there is a battle between Light and Darkness. There is only Light. We serve Light. Darkness is an illusion. Although it is true that Darkness has been created into a reality, it is still an illusion nonetheless.

We do not fight illusions; we transcend them. But all of this is well stated in our teachings, rituals, and traditions, and, as the mission has dictated for over 3000 years, in our hearts. We face a difficult task, but we have been well taught. "
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All this Illuminati NWO material is utter rubbish! I have been a member of the Order of the CR+C for years. I have never, repeat never, come across any material relating to "taking over the world", Luciferianism, dark forces or the like. Totally the opposite in fact.

Quite frankly, I think all this NWO material is being put out by certain fundamentalist organisations trying to push their own brand of apocalyptic doctrine. They are attempting to brainwash the gullible into believing the mass population are just slaves.

Genuine Rosicrucian organisations are about the refinement of the individual and guiding that individual towards illumination, with a view to improving the awful world in which we live.

We are a society that is secret for good reason. Not because we have something to hide, just that our system of initiation is not for everybody, and if an outsider were to get a glimpse of our teachings, out of context, it probably would seem pretty meaningless to them, unless they had gone through the successive degrees of initiation that we have.

Don't even go there by saying "its not because you are not high-up enough to know the real agenda".

If you study the Baconian material in the context as an initiate you would (hopefully) understand its real meaning.
Bacon's work was coded, the truth hidden in plain sight, to keep the uninitiated out.

Rather than slating Rosicrucian Orders, why don't you apply for membership and find out for yourself, pass through all the degrees and then make judgement. Start off by reading the 17th c. manifestoes. The material in these we literally swear to uphold at certain points in our personal path of initiation.

"Seest thou also that same Cocks-Comb, with what whimsical Figures and foolish conceits he allures others to him. There one makes Mouthes at the people with the unheard-of Mysterious Words. Yet believe me in this, the time is now coming when those shameful Lizards shall be plucked off, and all the World shall know what Vagabond Imposters were concealed behind them."

[link to www.crcsite.org]





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