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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49528983  United States11/22/2015 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49528983 What a bunch of bullshit. My dad served in the military and from a young age he taught ME how to waterboard as its an extremely effective technique. I can tell from having it done to me, it DOES work, and anyone who disagree is a liberal pussy It doesn't work on people who would rather die, according to their own delusions, in "honor" and go to heaven and get their "72 virgins". That's why it doesn't work on them. people. So the alternative is: kill them and get 0 information. Yet you're bitching about waterboarding but not killing What a bunch of anti-Trump shill garbage WOW. ONE IS DEATH, ONE ISNT, and you're complaining about non-DEATH. LMFAO!!!! Die you fucking shill [link to www.breitbart.com] "Die you fucking shill". What an idiot with fucking comprehension problems. No one instead is going to give information if they are okay with dying. Now undo the goddammed knot in your boxers and go have a beer or something and calm the fuck down FFS.  Hello, retard? You're complaining about waterboarding but not about killing. That's the stupidest thing ever |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70749852 United States11/22/2015 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is an extreme haunted house out in California where the owner Russ waterboards people as one of the methods of scaring them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405162 There is supposedly a wait list of around 17,000 people trying to get in. The cost of admission is a couple bags of dog food. No joke. You can google Mckamey Manor. If it's legal for normal people to be waterboarded then why not waterboard suspected terrorists to get them to talk? These evil bastards will rape your wives, daughters, sisters and mothers if they had the chance. They believe in honor killings. They behead their enemies. Yet, some people here would like to grant them the same rights as American citizens. They are too concerned with being PC rather than doing what's needed to defeat these scumbags. Even if it would not produce valuable information, I say go ahead and Waterboard these evil fucks and let them suffer as much as possible. Waterboarding is nothing compared to what they deserve. You need to step back away from the fear the media and politicians have fabricated for you and ask why is it in the past the US has prided itself on not torturing prisoners of war no matter how bad of people they are? It was to separate us from them, to not stoop to that level. Also, the fact you do not want to grant ANY government certain powers such as these, including the massive surveillance Trump condones, because it is a very slippery slope and you are banking on the idea that no one will ever come along and abuse those powers.....just a bad idea all around, my friend, and I hope you will reconsider your position. In WW2, you had enemies flocking to Americans to surrender because surrendering to another country like Russia was death and torture. The people that support torture are going down a slippery slope where it will also be used on Americans. Politicians and their supporters would like to extend it given the chance. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37016807  France11/22/2015 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37016807 It doesn't work on people who would rather die, according to their own delusions, in "honor" and go to heaven and get their "72 virgins". That's why it doesn't work on them. people. So the alternative is: kill them and get 0 information. Yet you're bitching about waterboarding but not killing What a bunch of anti-Trump shill garbage WOW. ONE IS DEATH, ONE ISNT, and you're complaining about non-DEATH. LMFAO!!!! Die you fucking shill [link to www.breitbart.com] "Die you fucking shill". What an idiot with fucking comprehension problems. No one instead is going to give information if they are okay with dying. Now undo the goddammed knot in your boxers and go have a beer or something and calm the fuck down FFS. Hello, retard? You're complaining about waterboarding but not about killing. That's the stupidest thing ever No shit sherlock! In my first post to you I was addressing waterboarding!  Holy shit. |
DuckNCover  User ID: 70872925 United States11/22/2015 05:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, according to many posts here, people would rather do nothing to these terrorists to try and obtain valuable information. So, what would you do to prevent an attack on American soil? Ask them to be honest? Try and be their friend? By all means, lets keep the status quo and just release them so they can return to the battlefield and fight against us again. This war will never end until every one of these evil fucks is dead. They have shown time and time again if you leave even a small number of them alive, they will rise again. We shouldn't just Waterboard them, we should eliminate them. This is not your standard country vs country war. Until people realize that conventional methods don't work, we will never win. It will go on forever. But, God forbid we offend some people. Let me guess, it will be a recruiting tool for Isis. Sounds like Obama talking points. The best recruitment tool is them knowing we won't do shit if they are captured. Quoting: Sin Remover How to stop them is to take a page out of Vlad the Impaler and impale the bastards at our borders. Put the fear of Allah into them by letting women do the impaling on them... Fight fire with Fire.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70749852 United States11/22/2015 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, according to many posts here, people would rather do nothing to these terrorists to try and obtain valuable information. So, what would you do to prevent an attack on American soil? Ask them to be honest? Try and be their friend? By all means, lets keep the status quo and just release them so they can return to the battlefield and fight against us again. This war will never end until every one of these evil fucks is dead. They have shown time and time again if you leave even a small number of them alive, they will rise again. We shouldn't just Waterboard them, we should eliminate them. This is not your standard country vs country war. Until people realize that conventional methods don't work, we will never win. It will go on forever. But, God forbid we offend some people. Let me guess, it will be a recruiting tool for Isis. Sounds like Obama talking points. The best recruitment tool is them knowing we won't do shit if they are captured. Quoting: Sin Remover Last I checked, we are in their country, not them in ours. Can you show me where ISIS is chopping of the heads of Americans in America? Let the Middle East take care of their problems. I am tired of thieves stealing my tax dollars to show how big their dick is and police the GD world against the Constitution. |
| Booger Cancer User ID: 70513382 United States11/22/2015 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Desert Fox Sorry, but the Booger is right. Worked out great when used on Saddams right hand man, so geeet f--ked.  The Senate concluded that ZERO actionable intelligence was produced by George Bush's torture program. [link to www.washingtonsblog.com] AND virtually all of the top interrogation experts – both conservatives and liberals (except for those trying to escape war crimes prosecution) – say that torture doesn’t work. ROFLMAO!! Politically correct opinions don't trump the historical facts. 'Hairy guy" sang like a bird. That information enabled the US to connect some dots. Bingo. Thousands of lives were saved! Prove it, fuckwad. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (your "hairy guy") was waterboarded 183 different times. The Chief Prosecutor of the Guantanamo military commissions (Colonel Morris Davis says QUOTE As person responsible for prosecuting KSM [i.e. alleged 9/11 “master mind” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed], I spent 2 yrs immersed in the intel/evid. Torture did no good. From CBS: "Rodriguez maintains he got information from the interrogations of KSM and others that enabled the CIA to disrupt at least 10 large-scale terrorist plots." [link to www.cbsnews.com] Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70749852 United States11/22/2015 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This stance by Trump might or might not make him popular at this moment. But watch how his statement makes him incredibly popular as soon as ISIS kills a bunch of Americans. With so many moslems invading the US right now, it is a given that attacks will happen. Quoting: Booger Cancer Trump is going to look brilliant then for offering this solution now. He seems to have pretty good foresight. Our soldiers are trained against interrogation techniques...at least the elite soldiers. What they use against us, we can't use against them while they behead anyone who isn't like them. Fuck.that. TRUMP BUMP Fuck that is right. Apparently, wanting to Waterboard these bastards, which is minimal compared to the torture they do to people, means you are in favor of big government. Not one person who is against this has offered a solution or viable alternative. Keep doing nothing and we will keep watching more Paris type attacks. The only role governments should have is to protect its citizens and its borders. I'm for taking away all other powers from the federal government. I'm also for doing whatever necessary in the fight against radical Islam. We need to give our military all the tools they need to succeed. No more of Obama's pathetic rules of engagement and treating these terrorists better than American citizens once caught. As long as you are ok with going to Hell if that is the price? You do not become a monster to fight monsters, otherwise you will be swimming with them in Brimstone. |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States11/22/2015 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater They could do that now if they wanted. No need for waterboarding....they could do much worse. Frankly too...our own Navy Seals are ALL waterboarded as part of their training. So just stop with the hysterics you tards.   show me where navy seals are water boarded within an inch of their life? and if they are, they do it voluntarily, you are a liar. and the fact that you say they could do it now and you are ok with that, shows what type of person you are. IF waterboarding is torture, then why is it mandatory for NAVY SEAL training? [link to answers.yahoo.com (secure)] Navy Commandos Expect Their Shrinks to Be Waterboarded [link to www.wired.com] I know waterboarding is torture - because I did it myself [link to www.nydailynews.com]  so it's ok to torture people who have not been convicted of a crime, or had a fair trial, since navy seals get tortured as part of their training its ok. What kind of twisted logic is that, is nobody home in that brain of yours? Battlefield combatants do not get trials.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35416404 United States11/22/2015 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump once again uses common sense and says he would bring back Waterboarding. He is correct again as he realizes what it will take to defeat these scumbags. He is the only candidate who doesn't care about being PC and would implement policies that would actually benefit America. Quoting: Sin Remover From the article: Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he would bring back waterboarding as an interrogation technique because he said, “I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they’re doing us.” Read more here: [link to www.breitbart.com]  Waterboarding? Sounds like a killer sport! Gotta watch out for sharks though... In retrospect, if the technique works to save lives, I see no problem with it. I would hope they would take care to not waterboard any innocent people. But as Gump said, shit happens! BAZINGA!!!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70563533 United States11/22/2015 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I know from people involved that waterboarding does in fact provide good intel. Fuck what the media, pols, and military pols hv said publicly when forced to do so. The people involved know the truth and there are more of them than the lying pos saying whatever is know the political de rigeur "climate" of the day, e.g. PC BS. FACTS. DEAL WITH THEM. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70563533 United States11/22/2015 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I know from people involved that waterboarding does in fact provide good intel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70563533 Fuck what the media, pols, and even the military pols (REMFs) hv said publicly when forced to do so. The people involved know the truth and there are more of them than the lying pos's saying whatever is now the political de rigeur "climate" of the day, e.g. PC BS. FACTS. DEAL WITH THEM. |
| MIgardener User ID: 58361181 United States11/22/2015 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How inhuman! That evil man is going to throw water in terrorist's faces just because they brutally kill people!!!  Last Edited by MIgardener on 11/22/2015 05:24 PM "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
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| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 11213558 United States11/22/2015 05:26 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| MIgardener User ID: 58361181 United States11/22/2015 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68453944  Canada11/22/2015 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American for the most part have no idea what real torture is. Quoting: Lily o' the Valley And for the most part, I probably know first hand as much as you know about Guantanamo, but I will guarantee you that I know a lot more about genuine torture. By Wayne Madsen Posted on December 29, 2014 by Wayne Madsen (Extremely edited for brevity - third-party renditions) The torture sessions were carried out by foreign security agencies employed by the CIA to interrogate prisoners renditioned by the agency from third countries. For example, the torture tactics employed by the security services of Syria, Kenya, and Ethiopia are, according to the Panetta Review, even worse than the tactics used by U.S. Army jailers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad and the CIA tactics used at several “black sites.” WMR has learned from senior officers present at Abu Ghraib that some of this torture was not only observed but directed by Israeli intelligence personnel. ...the Panetta Review contains details of the practices used by the security services of third countries like Syria. One of the reasons why the CIA is intent on overthrowing the Bashar al-Assad government is the techniques its security service employed against prisoners delivered for interrogation by the CIA. These include the use of ancient Arab torture methods, most notably the “Black Slave” or al ‘Abd al-Aswad. The technique employs a metal chair in which the torture victim is strapped naked to a chair and a red-hot metal skewer is inserted into the anus. Another technique used the medieval “Solomon’s Chair,” where a torture victim is seated on a chair fitted with metal spikes. Many of the torture sessions were carried out in interrogation facilities in Addis Ababa and Nairobi. The Ethiopians used an apartment in Addis Ababa as one torture facility. The security services of Egypt, Libya, Morocco, and Jordan were also used to torture renditioned CIA detainees. [link to www.intrepidreport.com] Imagine being taken to a third-world country and tortured in indescribable pain by pitiless men...where mercy and compassion doesn't exist. Don't even think about it Mr. Trump. Don't even let it cross your mind. That is off topic. We were talking about waterboarding by our government, not torture practiced by other governments, which is known to be horrifying. No, it isn't "off topic" waterboarding notwithstanding. How can we know that third-world countries wouldn't be employed to do it? Where would those sessions take place? How about false confessions? Every single confession obtained from Bush and Cheney’s “enhanced interrogation techniques” falls into “Coerced” and “Coerced-internalized” false confession criteria. Tortured suspects will lie and likely implicate more innocents, themselves and others, if only to escape more pain. CIA Brainwashing from a Psychological Perspective highlights use of torture, which can easily make you believe you did things you didn’t do, which is critical for false confessions (coerced-internalized confessions). In short, the Bush administration was counting on the fact that they could get tortured prisoners to say anything. [link to impiousdigest.com] [link to impiousdigest.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44184341 United States11/22/2015 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Repukes have no chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69438559 Electoral College makes your candidate a douche. Retards. If you think Hillary has a chance you're a fucking moron Trump beats Hillary in every single poll out today the only thing Trump cares about is saving his $10 billion. the only reason he's running is because Hillary will tax the shit out of it and the other republicans will crash the economy and wipe it out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39518785 United States11/22/2015 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Repukes have no chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69438559 Electoral College makes your candidate a douche. Retards. If you think Hillary has a chance you're a fucking moron Trump beats Hillary in every single poll out today the only thing Trump cares about is saving his $10 billion. the only reason he's running is because Hillary will tax the shit out of it and the other republicans will crash the economy and wipe it out. Trump has made his money. now his ambition is to go down in History as the man who saved America. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37356712  Thailand11/22/2015 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah! People need to see what a neocon Trump is. Ron Paul was right!  Trump is tyrannical facist just like the rest. Doesn't matter, plug-in Romney, McCain, Graham, or even Trump. It's the Carl Rove Corporate Cronyism Fascist party. I knew it was a joke when ABC's THIS WEEK with Jorge Stephenopoulous, he just let Trump ramble on for like 5 minutes and it was all softball questions that appeared to be pre-coordinated. I remember someone posting or read somewhere, Ron Paul was completely Blacked Out by ABC for like 6 1/2 months during the presidential race in 2011-12. It's all rigged in America today and 2016 looks like the ringer will be a solid gold trumpet named Trump. |
| KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 69593891 United States11/22/2015 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gosh he reminds me of George W. Bush.  "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
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