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Why don't black people like John Wayne?

 
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Why don't black people like John Wayne?
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Now other blacks have been known to dislike John Wayne too. Was it something he said in particular they don't like? And why do they call Elvis racist?

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PLAYBOY: Angela Davis claims that those who would revoke her teaching credentials on ideological grounds are actually discriminating against her because she's black. Do you think there's any truth in that?

WAYNE: With a lot of blacks, there's quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.

PLAYBOY: Are you equipped to judge which blacks are irresponsible and which of their leaders inexperienced?

WAYNE: It's not my judgment. The academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically. But some blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven't passed the tests and don't have the requisite background.

PLAYBOY: How do they get that background?

WAYNE: By going to school. I don't know why people insist that blacks have been forbidden their right to go to school. They were allowed in public schools wherever I've been. Even if they don't have the proper credentials for college, there are courses to help them become eligible. But if they aren't academically ready for that step, I don't think they should be allowed in. Otherwise, the academic society is brought down to the lowest
common denominator.

PLAYBOY: But isn't it true that we're never likely to rectify the inequities in our educational system until some sort of remedial education is given to disadvantaged
minority groups?

WAYNE: What good would it do to register anybody in a class of higher algebra or calculus if they haven't learned to count? There has to be a standard. I don't feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago these people were slaves. Now, I'm not condoning slavery. It's just a fact of life, like the kid who gets infantile paralysis and has to wear braces so he can't play football with the rest of us. I will say this, though: I think any black who can compete with a white today can get a better break than a white man. I wish they'd tell me where in the world they have it better than right here in America.

PLAYBOY: Many militant blacks would argue that they have it better almost anywhere else. Even in Hollywood, they feel that the color barrier is still up for many kinds of jobs. Do you limit the number of blacks you use in your pictures?

WAYNE: Oh, Christ no. I've directed two pictures and I gave the blacks their proper position. I had a black slave in The Alamo, and I had a correct number of blacks in The Green Berets. If it's supposed to be a black character, naturally I use a black actor. But I don't go so far as hunting for positions for them. I think the Hollywood studios are carrying their tokenism a little too far. There's no doubt that 10 percent of the population
is black, or colored, or whatever they want to call themselves; they certainly aren't Caucasian. Anyway, I suppose there should be the same percentage of the colored race in films as in society. But it can't always be that way. There isn't necessarily going to be 10 percent of the grips or sound men who are black, because more than likely, 10 percent haven't trained themselves for that type of work.

PLAYBOY: Can blacks be integrated into the film industry if they are denied training and education?

WAYNE: It's just as hard for a white man to get a card in the Hollywood craft unions.

PLAYBOY: That's hardly the point, but let's change the subject. For years American Indians have played an important—if subordinate—role in your Westerns. Do you feel any empathy with them?

WAYNE: I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.


Entire Interview -> [link to pages.shanti.virginia.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Playboy Article with John Wayne 1971


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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
John Wayne was gay,
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
I like him because he's white. I don't like black actors because they are black. How does it feel? Keep push the wrong buttons and the mess you create for yourself to come down upon you like a fucking plague.
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Not exactly trying to mend fences, was he?

Actually somewhat dismissive ........
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no one is liked who tells the truth -
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I like him because he's white. I don't like black actors because they are black. How does it feel? Keep push the wrong buttons and the mess you create for yourself to come down upon you like a fucking plague.
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yourere
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I'm tired of hearing it. Be racist or don't be. I don't give a fuck.
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Not exactly trying to mend fences, was he?

Actually somewhat dismissive ........
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Dismissive? How about accurate? Accurate works for me. Just because the truth hurts people's feelings doesn't make it right to lie to them.
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Blacks can't relate to John Wayne and that's why they don't like him. Simple as fuck.
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Not exactly trying to mend fences, was he?

Actually somewhat dismissive ........
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Dismissive? How about accurate? Accurate works for me. Just because the truth hurts people's feelings doesn't make it right to lie to them.
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This^^ x 1000. People who constantly get "offended" know deep down that truth has been spoken. It's just their inflated egos won't allow them to become humble to it. Fuck Them.

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
What is a "black people" ? It either is a negro or a human being, can't be both. Watch the syntax !
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Raise your hand if you read The Duke's part of the interview with your best John Wayne voice.

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I am white and I don't think I've ever seen an entire John Wayne movie.
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Raise your hand if you read The Duke's part of the interview with your best John Wayne voice.

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LOL Yeah. I could hear his voice clearly while reading. Amazing
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Because he was always killing Indians in his movies, and Indians were originally black but whitey has made people think they were red skinned!!!

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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Not exactly trying to mend fences, was he?

Actually somewhat dismissive ........
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Dismissive? How about accurate? Accurate works for me. Just because the truth hurts people's feelings doesn't make it right to lie to them.
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Blacks can't relate to John Wayne and that's why they don't like him. Simple as fuck.
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Lack of intelligence always gets in the way. That's why they are destined to live in destitute.
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Everyone else adds fuel to the fire of their idiocracy.
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Raise your hand if you read The Duke's part of the interview with your best John Wayne voice.

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PLAYBOY: Angela Davis claims that those who would revoke her teaching credentials on ideological grounds are actually discriminating against her because she's black. Do you think there's any truth in that?

WAYNE: With a lot of blacks, there's quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.

PLAYBOY: Are you equipped to judge which blacks are irresponsible and which of their leaders inexperienced?

WAYNE: It's not my judgment. The academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically. But some blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven't passed the tests and don't have the requisite background.

PLAYBOY: How do they get that background?

WAYNE: By going to school. I don't know why people insist that blacks have been forbidden their right to go to school. They were allowed in public schools wherever I've been. Even if they don't have the proper credentials for college, there are courses to help them become eligible. But if they aren't academically ready for that step, I don't think they should be allowed in. Otherwise, the academic society is brought down to the lowest
common denominator.

PLAYBOY: But isn't it true that we're never likely to rectify the inequities in our educational system until some sort of remedial education is given to disadvantaged
minority groups?

WAYNE: What good would it do to register anybody in a class of higher algebra or calculus if they haven't learned to count? There has to be a standard. I don't feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago these people were slaves. Now, I'm not condoning slavery. It's just a fact of life, like the kid who gets infantile paralysis and has to wear braces so he can't play football with the rest of us. I will say this, though: I think any black who can compete with a white today can get a better break than a white man. I wish they'd tell me where in the world they have it better than right here in America.

PLAYBOY: Many militant blacks would argue that they have it better almost anywhere else. Even in Hollywood, they feel that the color barrier is still up for many kinds of jobs. Do you limit the number of blacks you use in your pictures?

WAYNE: Oh, Christ no. I've directed two pictures and I gave the blacks their proper position. I had a black slave in The Alamo, and I had a correct number of blacks in The Green Berets. If it's supposed to be a black character, naturally I use a black actor. But I don't go so far as hunting for positions for them. I think the Hollywood studios are carrying their tokenism a little too far. There's no doubt that 10 percent of the population
is black, or colored, or whatever they want to call themselves; they certainly aren't Caucasian. Anyway, I suppose there should be the same percentage of the colored race in films as in society. But it can't always be that way. There isn't necessarily going to be 10 percent of the grips or sound men who are black, because more than likely, 10 percent haven't trained themselves for that type of work.

PLAYBOY: Can blacks be integrated into the film industry if they are denied training and education?

WAYNE: It's just as hard for a white man to get a card in the Hollywood craft unions.

PLAYBOY: That's hardly the point, but let's change the subject. For years American Indians have played an important—if subordinate—role in your Westerns. Do you feel any empathy with them?

WAYNE: I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.


Entire Interview -> [link to pages.shanti.virginia.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Playboy Article with John Wayne 1971


hesright
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PLAYBOY: Angela Davis claims that those who would revoke her teaching credentials on ideological grounds are actually discriminating against her because she's black. Do you think there's any truth in that?

WAYNE: With a lot of blacks, there's quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.

PLAYBOY: Are you equipped to judge which blacks are irresponsible and which of their leaders inexperienced?

WAYNE: It's not my judgment. The academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically. But some blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven't passed the tests and don't have the requisite background.

PLAYBOY: How do they get that background?

WAYNE: By going to school. I don't know why people insist that blacks have been forbidden their right to go to school. They were allowed in public schools wherever I've been. Even if they don't have the proper credentials for college, there are courses to help them become eligible. But if they aren't academically ready for that step, I don't think they should be allowed in. Otherwise, the academic society is brought down to the lowest
common denominator.

PLAYBOY: But isn't it true that we're never likely to rectify the inequities in our educational system until some sort of remedial education is given to disadvantaged
minority groups?

WAYNE: What good would it do to register anybody in a class of higher algebra or calculus if they haven't learned to count? There has to be a standard. I don't feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago these people were slaves. Now, I'm not condoning slavery. It's just a fact of life, like the kid who gets infantile paralysis and has to wear braces so he can't play football with the rest of us. I will say this, though: I think any black who can compete with a white today can get a better break than a white man. I wish they'd tell me where in the world they have it better than right here in America.

PLAYBOY: Many militant blacks would argue that they have it better almost anywhere else. Even in Hollywood, they feel that the color barrier is still up for many kinds of jobs. Do you limit the number of blacks you use in your pictures?

WAYNE: Oh, Christ no. I've directed two pictures and I gave the blacks their proper position. I had a black slave in The Alamo, and I had a correct number of blacks in The Green Berets. If it's supposed to be a black character, naturally I use a black actor. But I don't go so far as hunting for positions for them. I think the Hollywood studios are carrying their tokenism a little too far. There's no doubt that 10 percent of the population
is black, or colored, or whatever they want to call themselves; they certainly aren't Caucasian. Anyway, I suppose there should be the same percentage of the colored race in films as in society. But it can't always be that way. There isn't necessarily going to be 10 percent of the grips or sound men who are black, because more than likely, 10 percent haven't trained themselves for that type of work.

PLAYBOY: Can blacks be integrated into the film industry if they are denied training and education?

WAYNE: It's just as hard for a white man to get a card in the Hollywood craft unions.

PLAYBOY: That's hardly the point, but let's change the subject. For years American Indians have played an important—if subordinate—role in your Westerns. Do you feel any empathy with them?

WAYNE: I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.


Entire Interview -> [link to pages.shanti.virginia.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Playboy Article with John Wayne 1971


hesright
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Holy shit, that's awesome!!

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WAYNE: I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.


I need me some land too, Ima coming over there and taking it. Don't be selfish you American bitches.
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He smoke cigars ....

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Because he was everything they'll never be.
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john wayne is a crossdressing homosexual, pilgrim.
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john wayne is a crossdressing homosexual, pilgrim.
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You know this because? I mean did you suck his dick or did he suck yours?
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he sucked mine.
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
Why don't they like Tarzan?

Same reason.

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john wayne is a crossdressing homosexual, pilgrim.
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You know this because? I mean did you suck his dick or did he suck yours?
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he sucked mine.
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That was Charlie Sheen, you inbred criminal-descended aussie fag.
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john wayne is a crossdressing homosexual, pilgrim.
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You know this because? I mean did you suck his dick or did he suck yours?
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he sucked mine.
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That was Charlie Sheen, you inbred criminal-descended aussie fag.
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yeah nah it was teh john wayne. he sucked like a hoover.
and he loved it.
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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
there is so much denial over John Wayne being gay because of homophoebic fans. Finally, I heard that his homosexual confession was written in one of his diaries and discovered after he died.


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Re: Why don't black people like John Wayne?
I don't think so... Come on... I just don't think so.


I HOPE NOT.


I heard Perry Mason was...Also I hope not.


Rock Hudson...OK sure.




John Wayne was gay,
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I've heard that...but nothing was ever substantiated.
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WAYNE: I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.


I need me some land too, Ima coming over there and taking it. Don't be selfish you American bitches.
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You lost twice, ignorance is repeating the same thing over and over. Are you smart?
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John Wayne was gay,
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So was J. Edgar Hoover and do you think he would put up with the Muslim scourge getting into this country ?
AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM:

KICKING ASS, KILLING NAZIS, KILLING COMMIES, MAKING BABIES, BUILDING CITIES, EXPLORING SPACE, GOING TO THE MOON, AND PUTTING THE "CIVIL" IN CIVILIZATION SINCE 1776!

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But I tell you this man, I tell you this, I carry an aura of "fuck you" everywhere I go and while I may not cause scenes I can sure as hell continue them and escalate them but good.

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There is going to be a second revolution folks.

Count on it - and it will be the citizens against the government.

It will be damn bloody. It will be a war of attrition. It will result in over 100 million dead.

The heavy handedness of the government - the fascists in code enforcement and animal control especially - have brought this upon themselves.
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because thats what they call toilet paper in lock up

john wayne, ruff tuff and dont take shit from any one

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