URGENT!!! They were leaving the questioned airspace!!!

Chess is war without the noise.

Um, news flash..... that isn't a military radar display. Or even a valid computer data log.

That is a picture of a map that someone used a computer to do a lot of scribbling on, then put it on TV.

I've been in some loud chess matches. . . but I still agree with you.

Your disagreement has been noted.

Did you actually watch the video? They eventually show a playback of the Russian radar logs... an actual video of what Russian air controllers saw as the situation unfolded in real time.

You guys are talking about a lot of technicalities that miss the bigger picture, in my opinion.

The reality of it is, that Turkey just gave a big "fuck you" to Russia. This was the result of goading by the USA military working with Turkish military. Controlled ultimately by Isra-hell.

So Putin came out straight away this morning and said for Russia to attack NATO over downing one plane would be madness.

He will find a way to target Turkey and get his revenge. I hope he finds a good, painful way to do it to them.

Maybe they will have their wheat supplies cut in half next year and they can smoke their hookas on an empty stomach while they jack off to re-reun tapes of Angela Merkel and Barry Soetero talking about what a great and valuable NATO ally they are.

Turkish government can go fuck themselves as far as I am concerned - they would like to kick off another big war, if they get a nice slice of the action and promises of more cheap loans and free military assets to keep their people down.

The leaders of Turkey do not allow protests on their streets. All protesters on the street get beaten or shot. With real bullets. Think about that, and what a great ally they are.

The fact that we're backing Turkey is a nightmare, Iran is a nice place compared to that backwards shithole. A nato country, give me a break. It was a directed shot, they were taking that plane down no matter what, the warnings were just an alibi.

Russia did release the data:

That's because you're embarrassingly intelligent.

Probably smell really nice too.

Its conclusive to the Russians. That's what matters.

If you want conclusive, Turkey is aiding and abetting ISIS, and selling terrorists oil.

Its amazing how so many in the West are in such extreme denial that their own governments are the sponsors of ISIS terrorism.

Honest question here.....

Do you even know what a modern radar screen looks like?

I seen no time stamped radar logs, or real radar screen video.

All i see is a bunch of animated stuff that any person can make on their home computer.

All you are saying is that the source is proof enough of it's authenticity.

they have been invading turkish airspace 24x7 and they finally got curb stomped. poor vlad got what he was asking 4. ;_;

Not for The USA, no they had to sink the Lusitania passenger ship. It was a setup from the get go. Our people died, and theirs did to, someone on the side that wanted us in the war. It was a way to entangle us in the World affairs. Think Wilson's time in office, then federal reserve bank and the lying sixteenth amendment, which is unconstitutional, so is fake money. Also the draft into the military was illegal.

We had no irons in that fight, they made it happen, they knew the German's would sink the ship, more than likely the person on board who was the sacrifice for the cause he just did not know it. That what got us in the war. WW1 and it has not stopped, but time has come to end this mess.

Backward shithole that harbors ISIS terrorists, no less.

You know the guys that have crucified Christians and cut off their heads. Yeah they are harboring those dudes. They are paid mercenaries anyway. I think they money and the drugs motivates them bastards more than anything. They are basically violent animals that are programmed to kill and torture for drugs and money. They are on serious drugs too, they have tapes of some of the captured ISIS and they don't even know where they are anymore. They are drugged up pawns of the NWO

Putin should forget the fucking plane.

Certainly a plane being should not be taken lightly. However he should be more concerned about avenging the deaths of the crew, who were murdered in cold blood, by syrian rebels, as they attempted to parachute to safety.

Turkey is harboring the allah snackbar druggies

I'm worried about a potential international incident involving Rudolph & his Sleigh Team.

What country in that part of the world isn't?

I just checked. I smell ok tonight.

OP heading to bed.

Carry on GLP

Somebody should make a meme....

I saw this and thought WTF is this?!?..LOL

American pilot shot down Russian jet

With the plain only being in the disputed zone for 17 seconds. (Turkey annexed it, but Syria still claims it.) Its impossible for Turkey to have warned them 10 times in 5 minutes.
Which means that either Turkey and the US are lying, or it was a planned shooting.

Um, no it's not crazy. It's AI. Powerful super duper mega computer that not only predicts the future script for all of us but can go back in time to change everyone's now future. AI is a constant background running feature in all forms of media outlets that allows the 1 % Ters time to smooth over the gaps between our knowing reality and our hoped for perceived reality. Need a crisis well AI will provide one. Need a hostage situation through media ports, then AI will provide one. Need another BLM protest then shooting? AI will be all over it. Seriously you didn't believe we would all acquire such intelligent technology just because it appeared out of thin air, slowly and gradually just for our entertainment? How about containment ? AI builds upon the technology that runs our everyday lives. We are living in the Pet zoo, that used to be called earth. Need a crisis to bring down civilization? Shake and break nuclear chemical biological areas strategically at the the wimp of a second cause all is connected. Listen. Everyday our lives are being scripted through global mass in your face propanga media. Sucks because we the masses load up constant chatter, photos, emotions that allow the 1% to exploit, gather, and use against all of us. They corral what they want to be thought heard and acted upon. And we've all helped them use our virtual lives to shape that reality. Unplug from the matrix. It will die soon. The secret is not to go or rule or live by emotional influence. Rule the need based emotions, rule the world. The world is vastly being cut off from,all it's resources. Food, water, shelter, community. All we have left is real us, and it had better be enough.

So when would they have hit the missile launch button? How long after launching before it hit the plane? Did they launch the very second it crossed over the border?

If what they are saying is true (doubt anyways) and Russia was in Turkey airspace for only 30 seconds then did they launch before the plane even crossed over???

They said they started warning the pilots when they were approaching the border so before they actually crossed over. So they have this little discrepancy covered.

If you remember Turkey is claiming about 5km buffer zone within Syria ILLEGALLY, whereby it protects ISIS ... the Russian jet was most likely only within this ILLEGALLY claimed part of Syria, NOT within Turkey at all. Such an aggressive action would have had NATO agreement (as Turkey is within NATO), which means Obama was probably within the loop ... meaning while Turkey pulled the trigger, Obama gave the authorization. Same for Turkey's threats towards Russia in the preceding days. No NATO state acts alone, as NATO has to come to any member's aid. And the US runs NATO. The head of ISIS/Al-Qaeda sits in the White House

And do you really think that if the Russian plane really was in Turkish airspace, they would have released the authentic radar recording via RT?

I see but does anyone know how many seconds if would take from a launch to a hit with a missile fired from ground?