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You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns

 
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11/25/2015 12:34 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Maybe it would be wise to give the pilots two options with the eject pull. One where the parachute opens automatically and one where the pilot can choose when to open it, so he can pull it the last seconds and land faster to get away, not being a target for too long.
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11/25/2015 12:42 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
they were bombing civilians and dictator opposers whilst ignoring state borders.

rules don't apply to you if you don't respect them.


shooting them is far more humane then what the areas civilians woulfd have done to them.


had they been anywhere near |SIS they would have been tortured for days before being burnt alive on youtube.
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11/25/2015 12:53 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Absurd bullshit from the victor. Only the victorious party can sit back later on in life and claim to have "done the right thing" and not take every single chance to kill as many enemies before either being killed or captured.

I wonder if this old man's opinion would be the same about the correctness of his decision if we had lost the war. Most assuredly not.

I don't blame the old man for not being down with game theory. And that's one reason his generation was so absolutely easy to lead by the nose. And why his generation was conditioned to raise the baby boomers who would be groomed to destroy the world.
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
WWII vet Richard Peterson explains why you don't Shoot a Parachuting Soldier

Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

its not about honor alone. its about there's no challenge. its just wrong and weak.
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Russia going bomb the shit out of every one on the ground that is not on Assads side
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
WWII vet Richard Peterson explains why you don't Shoot a Parachuting Soldier

Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

its not about honor alone. its about there's no challenge. its just wrong and weak.
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Yeah, but ISIS members are just a bunch of pussies that need drugs in order to get into a fight.
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11/25/2015 01:02 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
they were bombing civilians and dictator opposers whilst ignoring state borders.

rules don't apply to you if you don't respect them.


shooting them is far more humane then what the areas civilians woulfd have done to them.


had they been anywhere near |SIS they would have been tortured for days before being burnt alive on youtube.
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The land the plane was shot down in, wasn't within turkey but within Syria
Turkey declared a no-fly zone within Syria without ever asking Syria about it.

This would be like China declaring a no fly zone above New York and then proceed to shoot down planes flying in that air-space.


Apart, even if for a few seconds the Russian plane flew through turkey's air space, it was never ever a threat to Turkey whatsoever.
Killing two pilots and sending $40 millions worth of equipment down the drain just because of someone using your air for a minute, you know is no threat to you, you are asking for trouble if that someone has any means to make your life difficult.

Again, in this case, they did not even use Turkey's air-space but only the illegally declared no-fly zone within Syria's territory.



Furthermore, the FSA or whatever those monkeys on the ground shooting the parachuters were, could not possibly have known with 100% certainty that they were Russian pilots.

Maybe it was a Turkish airplane that somehow malfunctioned OR the Russians shot back and downed a Jet in an air fight.

And since we know that the Turks are cooperating with the turkmens or FSA or whatever other monkeys shot down the parachuters, it is reasonable to assume that they have been told about the Russian jet shot-down and advised to "take care" of the pilots.
It's not like the parachutes had the Russian flag imprinted on them, ,right?
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11/25/2015 01:03 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
WWII vet Richard Peterson explains why you don't Shoot a Parachuting Soldier

Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

its not about honor alone. its about there's no challenge. its just wrong and weak.
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Russia going bomb the shit out of every one on the ground that is not on Assads side
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Start with un-fused Napalm, 1 min. later Fuel Air Explosive.


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11/25/2015 01:05 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
In my head I'm thinking.....okay the dude ejected and as he descends a bunch of other dudes jump in thier rides and follow the direction of the first dude. They pull over and start taking shots at this guy from (how many feet) and hit him. Maybe I'm missing some details but this story smells like dookie. Sounds a tad bit Hollywood.
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Yeah I've been questioning that too but I'm still pro-Russia. I'm wondering if that was a normal route the plane would take to secure the Syrian border and Turkey knew their routine so Turkey had the attack planned in advance. Because yeah, how the hell did the FSA know where the pilots had landed and how were they prepared to shoot them out of the sky in the first place!?
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11/25/2015 01:07 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Adding to the above, the story in the MSM about the Russian jet having been warned 10 times within 5 minutes before shooting it down, CANNOT be true.

5 minutes at about 1000 km/h fly speed, would mean that the Jet flew 50 km through turkey.

Yet it was shot down right at the border, where the dispute is about if it was within 1-2km of the allowed air space and only because Turkey declared that Syrian air-space as a no fly zone without ever asking Syria about it.

So even IF the Russian plane flew 50km through Turkish air space, as the 5min of 10 warnings suggest....
The jet was clearly on the way out of that air space, given it was shot down at 1-2km of disputed air space.

Meaning (if we were to believe the MSM bullshit) that the jet listened to the warnings and was on it's way out, and yet they chose to shoot it down still.
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11/25/2015 01:13 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
What's the real answer from someone who actually knows?
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11/25/2015 01:59 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
I would not suggest judging a person who has for months or years been in a situation where its kill or be killed, watching people closer than your family being killed.
It's very hard to imagine being in a situation where someone you have never harmed trying with all their might to kill you.
It's a shock and that hesitation can cost you.
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11/25/2015 02:28 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Another question to ask yourselves is...

If the jet was shot down within Turkish borders, then how the hell did the pilots end up deep within terrorist territory?
Was the wind blowing hard in a less than favorable direction that day?

I doubt the Turks shot down two parachuting pilots themselves within their borders, or did they? And if they did, NATO itself should sue them.
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11/25/2015 02:51 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Adding to the above, the story in the MSM about the Russian jet having been warned 10 times within 5 minutes before shooting it down, CANNOT be true.

5 minutes at about 1000 km/h fly speed, would mean that the Jet flew 50 km through turkey.

Yet it was shot down right at the border, where the dispute is about if it was within 1-2km of the allowed air space and only because Turkey declared that Syrian air-space as a no fly zone without ever asking Syria about it.

So even IF the Russian plane flew 50km through Turkish air space, as the 5min of 10 warnings suggest....
The jet was clearly on the way out of that air space, given it was shot down at 1-2km of disputed air space.

Meaning (if we were to believe the MSM bullshit) that the jet listened to the warnings and was on it's way out, and yet they chose to shoot it down still.
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They were warning them to not approach near their borders, so the warning from the turks was actually non legitimate. Of course we all know that they tried to protect their turkmen ISIS members.
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11/25/2015 03:26 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
honor? ROFL!
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11/25/2015 04:05 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Absurd bullshit from the victor. Only the victorious party can sit back later on in life and claim to have "done the right thing" and not take every single chance to kill as many enemies before either being killed or captured.

I wonder if this old man's opinion would be the same about the correctness of his decision if we had lost the war. Most assuredly not.

I don't blame the old man for not being down with game theory. And that's one reason his generation was so absolutely easy to lead by the nose. And why his generation was conditioned to raise the baby boomers who would be groomed to destroy the world.
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DAMN GOOD POST 111
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11/25/2015 04:40 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
Absurd bullshit from the victor. Only the victorious party can sit back later on in life and claim to have "done the right thing" and not take every single chance to kill as many enemies before either being killed or captured.

I wonder if this old man's opinion would be the same about the correctness of his decision if we had lost the war. Most assuredly not.

I don't blame the old man for not being down with game theory. And that's one reason his generation was so absolutely easy to lead by the nose. And why his generation was conditioned to raise the baby boomers who would be groomed to destroy the world.
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Are you nuts? These were REAL Men...They saved you from the Japs and the Germans...How can you even dare to criticize them?....Have you ever been in their shoes?....You'd probably piss your pants cowering in a fox hole some where begging for your mother.... I can't believe you have the balls to talk this shit....what have you done for your freedom?
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11/25/2015 04:45 AM
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Re: You dont shoot at parachutes. Or you get 800 50 cal rounds a min from 6 guns
the german plane was wrongfully picking off parachuting soldiers after the bomber blew up.

its wrong. so one guy in a fighter plan tracked the german and shot him and when the german parachuted the US pilot emptied 6 guns at 8-00 rounds a minutes on that german, and turned him to mince meat.
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