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Juju User ID: 69995295 Canada 11/27/2015 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Thank you for this. Now I can go eat something without having to worry about defending God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911054 Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God." Oh, so you're siding with the Pharisees looking to stone the man you profess to follow? What a weird thing to do for those professing to love Jesus. The first problem (besides siding with the Pharisees trying to stone your messiah) is that they never accused him of being the God (capital G). Whenever the Most High God, YHWH, is referenced in the Greek text, He's referred to with definite article which is not found in this passage. The second problem is you've completely missed Jesus' defense speech when Jesus quotes a Psalm where humans (which was his point) are referred to as gods (elohim/theos). The third problem would being missed then Pharisees incentive of followeing Jesus around trying to trap him in his own word. They were looking for a way to kill him. And here you are agreeing with their allegations. You are seriously deluded, all the time you rain down your heretical ideas on top of people who seek to further understanding of why Jesus said what he said. I would ask you one thing since you're the parenthetical inverse Pharisee fruit inspector who knows all, Did Jesus physically resurrect from the dead (death) and ascend to heaven? Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69078377 United Kingdom 11/27/2015 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalms 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: Jeremiah 11:20 But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 20:12 But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I opened my cause. Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70458925 United States 11/27/2015 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Do you have eyes to see? If you do you should start by reading the thread, most of your "arguments" have been delt with already. You mad bro. lol. Probably not, just lost. You are in for a rude awakening soon my friend. Lay down your pseudo intellectualism and meet Jesus. Be born of the Spirit and find His peace before its too late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalms Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69078377 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: Jeremiah 11:20 But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 20:12 But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I opened my cause. Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70458925 United States 11/27/2015 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalms Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69078377 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: Jeremiah 11:20 But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 20:12 But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I opened my cause. Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. You love to get the last word in the threads don;t you Sweede. I'll give you the last word, but leave you with this. You must be born again to even see... See you later |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Do you have eyes to see? If you do you should start by reading the thread, most of your "arguments" have been delt with already. You mad bro. lol. Probably not, just lost. You are in for a rude awakening soon my friend. Lay down your pseudo intellectualism and meet Jesus. Be born of the Spirit and find His peace before its too late. I'm not mad at all. Notice how easily I've exposed lies and refuted arguments in this thread. God's word is its own witness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70458925 United States 11/27/2015 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Do you have eyes to see? If you do you should start by reading the thread, most of your "arguments" have been delt with already. You mad bro. lol. Probably not, just lost. You are in for a rude awakening soon my friend. Lay down your pseudo intellectualism and meet Jesus. Be born of the Spirit and find His peace before its too late. I'm not mad at all. Notice how easily I've exposed lies and refuted arguments in this thread. God's word is its own witness. I'm so glad God has appointed you to correct all us lost people. You are a blind guide sir causing many to stumble. Not to late for you..just ask saul of Tarsus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalms Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69078377 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: Jeremiah 11:20 But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 20:12 But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I opened my cause. Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. You love to get the last word in the threads don;t you Sweede. I'll give you the last word, but leave you with this. You must be born again to even see... See you later It's not about last words, liar, it's about refuting lies and false arguments. And doing so with ease knowing fully well none of your can reciprocate, becasuse truth is with me, not you. But sure, feel free take a stab at this irrefutable verse. ◄Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Like I said, it's irrefutable, there's not you can say. With mean you will probably respond with another verse, a personal attack or ever so subtly try to stray from topic. Anything that will serve as a distraction. But please, save the insult for later, you can call me anything you want. Let's stay at Acts 3:13 for now, Peter testifying at Salomon's porch that Jesus was a servant of YHWH. What's your take on it? Whybis Peter lying according to you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911317 Do you have eyes to see? If you do you should start by reading the thread, most of your "arguments" have been delt with already. You mad bro. lol. Probably not, just lost. You are in for a rude awakening soon my friend. Lay down your pseudo intellectualism and meet Jesus. Be born of the Spirit and find His peace before its too late. I'm not mad at all. Notice how easily I've exposed lies and refuted arguments in this thread. God's word is its own witness. I'm so glad God has appointed you to correct all us lost people. You are a blind guide sir causing many to stumble. Not to late for you..just ask saul of Tarsus. You're welcome. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911054 Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God." Oh, so you're siding with the Pharisees looking to stone the man you profess to follow? What a weird thing to do for those professing to love Jesus. The first problem (besides siding with the Pharisees trying to stone your messiah) is that they never accused him of being the God (capital G). Whenever the Most High God, YHWH, is referenced in the Greek text, He's referred to with definite article which is not found in this passage. The second problem is you've completely missed Jesus' defense speech when Jesus quotes a Psalm where humans (which was his point) are referred to as gods (elohim/theos). The third problem would being missed then Pharisees incentive of followeing Jesus around trying to trap him in his own word. They were looking for a way to kill him. And here you are agreeing with their allegations. You are seriously deluded, all the time you rain down your heretical ideas on top of people who seek to further understanding of why Jesus said what he said. I would ask you one thing since you're the parenthetical inverse Pharisee fruit inspector who knows all, Did Jesus physically resurrect from the dead (death) and ascend to heaven? Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? *crickets* Come on, guys. Get to it. I've refuted your verses, now ot's your turn. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70458925 United States 11/27/2015 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalms Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69078377 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: Jeremiah 11:20 But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 20:12 But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I opened my cause. Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. You love to get the last word in the threads don;t you Sweede. I'll give you the last word, but leave you with this. You must be born again to even see... See you later It's not about last words, liar, it's about refuting lies and false arguments. And doing so with ease knowing fully well none of your can reciprocate, becasuse truth is with me, not you. But sure, feel free take a stab at this irrefutable verse. ◄Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Like I said, it's irrefutable, there's not you can say. With mean you will probably respond with another verse, a personal attack or ever so subtly try to stray from topic. Anything that will serve as a distraction. But please, save the insult for later, you can call me anything you want. Let's stay at Acts 3:13 for now, Peter testifying at Salomon's porch that Jesus was a servant of YHWH. What's your take on it? Whybis Peter lying according to you? I kinda expected you to resort to calling me a liar. I'm not trying to distract you or anyone. I am proving you are lost and you are showing your true colors lost one |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70808987 United States 11/27/2015 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911054 Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God." Oh, so you're siding with the Pharisees looking to stone the man you profess to follow? What a weird thing to do for those professing to love Jesus. The first problem (besides siding with the Pharisees trying to stone your messiah) is that they never accused him of being the God (capital G). Whenever the Most High God, YHWH, is referenced in the Greek text, He's referred to with definite article which is not found in this passage. The second problem is you've completely missed Jesus' defense speech when Jesus quotes a Psalm where humans (which was his point) are referred to as gods (elohim/theos). The third problem would being missed then Pharisees incentive of followeing Jesus around trying to trap him in his own word. They were looking for a way to kill him. And here you are agreeing with their allegations. You are seriously deluded, all the time you rain down your heretical ideas on top of people who seek to further understanding of why Jesus said what he said. I would ask you one thing since you're the parenthetical inverse Pharisee fruit inspector who knows all, Did Jesus physically resurrect from the dead (death) and ascend to heaven? Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? You are a divider, the biblical text was written in common language so the commoner could read and understand, you have been clearly blessed with good studying skills in this arena however you have taken it upon yourself to explain to the lost that what they are reading cannot be trusted the way they've read it. That in some way some special knowledge (Greeks liked to do this) needs to be administered so they (the commoner) can understand correctly. Why are you calling the word of God a liar? You have no trust in the word being inerrant do you? You don't believe the bible, do you? Like it or not the Bible is living and supernatural and the I AM's chosen way to reach his children, but you seriously or maybe not (you might be a troll) expect people to read Thomas' words as my lord and my God and say no he's talking about two people , who Elohim? Are you Mormon? Why would people need to be road scholars on the etymology of words in order to "get it right". The almighty himself says he chooses the foolish to confound the wise so which is foolish, to read something as it is written or to interpret those writings only after you have vetted them and bounced them back with etymological professors and such but you sound wise, perhaps you should become a fool. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911317 Oh, so you're siding with the Pharisees looking to stone the man you profess to follow? What a weird thing to do for those professing to love Jesus. The first problem (besides siding with the Pharisees trying to stone your messiah) is that they never accused him of being the God (capital G). Whenever the Most High God, YHWH, is referenced in the Greek text, He's referred to with definite article which is not found in this passage. The second problem is you've completely missed Jesus' defense speech when Jesus quotes a Psalm where humans (which was his point) are referred to as gods (elohim/theos). The third problem would being missed then Pharisees incentive of followeing Jesus around trying to trap him in his own word. They were looking for a way to kill him. And here you are agreeing with their allegations. You are seriously deluded, all the time you rain down your heretical ideas on top of people who seek to further understanding of why Jesus said what he said. I would ask you one thing since you're the parenthetical inverse Pharisee fruit inspector who knows all, Did Jesus physically resurrect from the dead (death) and ascend to heaven? Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? You are a divider, the biblical text was written in common language so the commoner could read and understand, you have been clearly blessed with good studying skills in this arena however you have taken it upon yourself to explain to the lost that what they are reading cannot be trusted the way they've read it. That in some way some special knowledge (Greeks liked to do this) needs to be administered so they (the commoner) can understand correctly. Why are you calling the word of God a liar? You have no trust in the word being inerrant do you? You don't believe the bible, do you? Like it or not the Bible is living and supernatural and the I AM's chosen way to reach his children, but you seriously or maybe not (you might be a troll) expect people to read Thomas' words as my lord and my God and say no he's talking about two people , who Elohim? Are you Mormon? Why would people need to be road scholars on the etymology of words in order to "get it right". The almighty himself says he chooses the foolish to confound the wise so which is foolish, to read something as it is written or to interpret those writings only after you have vetted them and bounced them back with etymological professors and such but you sound wise, perhaps you should become a fool. Nice attemp of distraction. Why did Peter says Jesus was a servant of YHWH? Why did Jesus call YHWH his and our God? Does YHWH leave room for a three-unity? No, He does not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70458925 United States 11/27/2015 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Address these scriptures Sweede. Get out your Greek and Hebrew and show us uneducated ones what God really means. Explain to us what happened on the Cross. Why Jesus' blood? Why a New Covenant? Why Jesus said you must be born again? Come on all knowing one, dig into your mind and try and explain why Jesus is not Who He claimed to be. **crickets** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911317 John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. You love to get the last word in the threads don;t you Sweede. I'll give you the last word, but leave you with this. You must be born again to even see... See you later It's not about last words, liar, it's about refuting lies and false arguments. And doing so with ease knowing fully well none of your can reciprocate, becasuse truth is with me, not you. But sure, feel free take a stab at this irrefutable verse. ◄Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Like I said, it's irrefutable, there's not you can say. With mean you will probably respond with another verse, a personal attack or ever so subtly try to stray from topic. Anything that will serve as a distraction. But please, save the insult for later, you can call me anything you want. Let's stay at Acts 3:13 for now, Peter testifying at Salomon's porch that Jesus was a servant of YHWH. What's your take on it? Whybis Peter lying according to you? I kinda expected you to resort to calling me a liar. I'm not trying to distract you or anyone. I am proving you are lost and you are showing your true colors lost one See, I knew you wouldn't answer it. Knew it. I shouldn't have provided you an out by calling you a liar. I apologize. Not get to the refutation. Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70911054 United States 11/27/2015 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:11-16 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70911054 United States 11/27/2015 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Revelation 21:2-7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6) Quoting: SignsOfTheTimes This was revealed in Jesus own words in Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,[a] “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revealed in Jesus in John 8:58 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Why did they pick up stones? Because Jesus was claiming to be God in their midst. (same reason some of you are throwing stones) Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God,The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; Revealed in the person of Jesus in Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Isaiah 48:17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God,Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. Fulfilled in the Precious Lord Jesus at the Cross Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. There are so many more scriptures in the Old Covenant that were fulfilled in Jesus in the New Covenant. Do you have eyes that see? Address these scriptures Sweede. Get out your Greek and Hebrew and show us uneducated ones what God really means. Explain to us what happened on the Cross. Why Jesus' blood? Why a New Covenant? Why Jesus said you must be born again? Come on all knowing one, dig into your mind and try and explain why Jesus is not Who He claimed to be. **crickets** Sure thing, broseph. Refuting trinitarian "proof" verses is like solving one of those shape puzzles for toddler, not a big deal. The personal pronoun in Hebrews 9:12 is referring to Christ, not God, which can be seen when adding the natural enemy of trinitarianism - context. Namely the verse preceding: 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Ops! Didn't I say you would ignore my verse and distract with a counter verse? I knew you would, and you did. I refute,you ignore. And truth is only with of us. Will you answer me verse now? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911054 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Revelation 21:2-7 God speaking, broseph, not the Lamb. Remember, there are four characters speaking in Revelation: "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants" From God to Jesus, from Jesus to John via his angel. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70911054 United States 11/27/2015 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Revelation 22:11-21 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911054 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Revelation 22:11-21 Yes, the narrative and speaker switches throughout Revelation, the videon posted above can walk your through it. "I Jesus" marks when the words of Jesus starts, in sone translations this is highlighted with red letters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70808987 United States 11/27/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70808987 You are seriously deluded, all the time you rain down your heretical ideas on top of people who seek to further understanding of why Jesus said what he said. I would ask you one thing since you're the parenthetical inverse Pharisee fruit inspector who knows all, Did Jesus physically resurrect from the dead (death) and ascend to heaven? Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? You are a divider, the biblical text was written in common language so the commoner could read and understand, you have been clearly blessed with good studying skills in this arena however you have taken it upon yourself to explain to the lost that what they are reading cannot be trusted the way they've read it. That in some way some special knowledge (Greeks liked to do this) needs to be administered so they (the commoner) can understand correctly. Why are you calling the word of God a liar? You have no trust in the word being inerrant do you? You don't believe the bible, do you? Like it or not the Bible is living and supernatural and the I AM's chosen way to reach his children, but you seriously or maybe not (you might be a troll) expect people to read Thomas' words as my lord and my God and say no he's talking about two people , who Elohim? Are you Mormon? Why would people need to be road scholars on the etymology of words in order to "get it right". The almighty himself says he chooses the foolish to confound the wise so which is foolish, to read something as it is written or to interpret those writings only after you have vetted them and bounced them back with etymological professors and such but you sound wise, perhaps you should become a fool. Nice attemp of distraction. Why did Peter says Jesus was a servant of YHWH? Why did Jesus call YHWH his and our God? Does YHWH leave room for a three-unity? No, He does not. NO, you don't know that...that's the point your definitive statements have Made it seem as if it's case closed, but it's not it is your own understanding you're using and not God's through the spirit and this is clear to see, I'm not saying you have to change, but you call people liars and such as if you have never lied and keep all the commandments. We know that all have fallen short or (missed the mark). You hate what you call 'Trinitarian' views and cite on as if God himself is backing your play, do you know he is? Best be sure. Why do you say YHWH what does it mean anyway? Was it counted as righteousness for Abram only if he called YHWH by that name only? Their are no steps is the point, and you don't start to explore the relationship symbiotically of the son of God and God himself until you mature as a believer right? No one comes up and says you must believe Jesus was the son of God who died for our sins and that he is God too. It is something that through reading you come to naturalize with in maturity. God said he would come and that his people would pluck His beard these things done to him! He illustrated this in Psalms brought through David (the man after Gods own heart) in Isiah 53 he declares himself coming in fact the entire 66 chapters of Isaiah reflect the bible complete with a reflection of the new test starting in chapter 40 and ending after the final captivity of Israel. The book is truth, men are liars and Jesus is in God and God just like it says he is. Do you know why the winds listeth? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64615791 United Kingdom 11/27/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FOY and this Swede do not have the Holy Spirit. They follow a false Christ and are on their way to hell. They have been warned, but they continue in their deception, therefore God has sent them a strong delusion that they should believe their lie. Their belief is complete blasphemy to the One true God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The bible they use is based on the Westcott and Hort translation, which is the same version the JWs use to undermine the deity of Christ. They add words to the text, take phrases out, and a lot of what they say for example 'He' when it should be God was manifested in the flesh is not used in the original Greek, only in the Westcott and Hort translation, which has added words in, and changed words to their detriment (you know what revelation chapter 22 says about people who do that). The early Christian fathers never used such a heretical version. The Westcott and Hort versions, the watch tower and anything else connected with that is based on freemasonry). Do you research, please. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70911317 Yes, yes he did. And you, why do you call Jesus a liar? John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Why are you calling Jesus a liar? Will you call him a liar to his face? Or will you side with the Pharisees yet again and incriminate him before God if YHWH asks you why had a god next to Him? To whom will self-professed Jesus-lovers point finger when that day comes? To the man you profess to love so deeply perhaps? You are a divider, the biblical text was written in common language so the commoner could read and understand, you have been clearly blessed with good studying skills in this arena however you have taken it upon yourself to explain to the lost that what they are reading cannot be trusted the way they've read it. That in some way some special knowledge (Greeks liked to do this) needs to be administered so they (the commoner) can understand correctly. Why are you calling the word of God a liar? You have no trust in the word being inerrant do you? You don't believe the bible, do you? Like it or not the Bible is living and supernatural and the I AM's chosen way to reach his children, but you seriously or maybe not (you might be a troll) expect people to read Thomas' words as my lord and my God and say no he's talking about two people , who Elohim? Are you Mormon? Why would people need to be road scholars on the etymology of words in order to "get it right". The almighty himself says he chooses the foolish to confound the wise so which is foolish, to read something as it is written or to interpret those writings only after you have vetted them and bounced them back with etymological professors and such but you sound wise, perhaps you should become a fool. Nice attemp of distraction. Why did Peter says Jesus was a servant of YHWH? Why did Jesus call YHWH his and our God? Does YHWH leave room for a three-unity? No, He does not. NO, you don't know that...that's the point your definitive statements have Made it seem as if it's case closed, but it's not it is your own understanding you're using and not God's through the spirit and this is clear to see, I'm not saying you have to change, but you call people liars and such as if you have never lied and keep all the commandments. We know that all have fallen short or (missed the mark). You hate what you call 'Trinitarian' views and cite on as if God himself is backing your play, do you know he is? Best be sure. Why do you say YHWH what does it mean anyway? Was it counted as righteousness for Abram only if he called YHWH by that name only? Their are no steps is the point, and you don't start to explore the relationship symbiotically of the son of God and God himself until you mature as a believer right? No one comes up and says you must believe Jesus was the son of God who died for our sins and that he is God too. It is something that through reading you come to naturalize with in maturity. God said he would come and that his people would pluck His beard these things done to him! He illustrated this in Psalms brought through David (the man after Gods own heart) in Isiah 53 he declares himself coming in fact the entire 66 chapters of Isaiah reflect the bible complete with a reflection of the new test starting in chapter 40 and ending after the final captivity of Israel. The book is truth, men are liars and Jesus is in God and God just like it says he is. Do you know why the winds listeth? I want scripture, not opinions. Jesus told us his God was our God, YHWH, and we are to serve Him alone. Prove to me why Jesus is a liar and the Greco-Roman bishopry and the emperors of Rome are not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70911317 Sweden 11/27/2015 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FOY and this Swede do not have the Holy Spirit. They follow a false Christ and are on their way to hell. They have been warned, but they continue in their deception, therefore God has sent them a strong delusion that they should believe their lie. Their belief is complete blasphemy to the One true God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The bible they use is based on the Westcott and Hort translation, which is the same version the JWs use to undermine the deity of Christ. They add words to the text, take phrases out, and a lot of what they say for example 'He' when it should be God was manifested in the flesh is not used in the original Greek, only in the Westcott and Hort translation, which has added words in, and changed words to their detriment (you know what revelation chapter 22 says about people who do that). The early Christian fathers never used such a heretical version. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64615791 The Westcott and Hort versions, the watch tower and anything else connected with that is based on freemasonry). Do you research, please. That's a dangerous accusation to make about those witnesses thay YHWH alone is the Most High God. Not afraid of the unforgivable sin, huh? |