Real Irish History.......

Zarah and Pharez

In the last four verses of Genesis 38, we find recorded the birth of twin sons to Jacob's fourth son Judah. Notice what these verses say:

Now it came to pass, at the time for giving birth, that behold, twins were in her womb. And so it was, when she was giving birth, that the one put out his hand; and the midwife took a scarlet thread and bound it on his hand, saying, "This one came out first." Then it happened, as he drew back his hand, that his brother came out unexpectedly; and she said, "How did you break through? This breach be upon you!" Therefore his name was called Perez. Afterward his brother came out who had the scarlet thread on his hand. And his name was called Zerah [Zarah].

This is one of the most important events recorded in Bible history. The births of a great many other people are recorded in the Bible, but in this one case ONLY are the details given -- why? Why is this particular birth singled out for such special attention?

This birth was a matter of great and special significance because Judah's other sons could not inherit the prophetic promise that from his descendants would come the future Royal Family of the nation of Israel. This was because they were the children of a forbidden union -- their mother was a Canaanite! Therefore, with the older of these two boys destined to be the ancestor of the future Royal Family of Israel, the question of which of them was born first (and therefore the heir) was a matter of very great importance. It was also, as the Bible shows, the basis or beginning of serious family trouble.

In the record of the birth, we find that the hand of Zarah (Zara) appeared first, and that the midwife tied a scarlet thread or cord around his wrist, saying: "This came out first." We then read that the hand was withdrawn, and that the birth of Pharez ensued. Here, indeed, was the seed of family discord. Which boy was the firstborn and, therefore, the heir: Zara with the scarlet cord around his wrist and the pronouncement "This came out first" or Pharez (Perez) whose birth was completed first?

Eventually Pharez was declared the rightful heir, and from him descended the official branch of the Tribe of Judah and the Davidic Royal House.

Now how did Zara and his descendants react to what they, undoubtedly, considered a wrong decision that robbed them of their rightful inheritance?

That they did not accept this ruling and that many of them left the main body of Israel during the time of the bondage in Egypt, becomes very clear when we examine the tribal genealogies as recorded in the Old Testament. These record the main lines of descent from Pharez-Judah for a very long period of time -- but the record of the descendants of Zara-Judah apparently ends with the third generation.

Since these genealogies -- and especially those of the chief families in each tribe -- were kept with great care, any omission would indicate that those omitted were NO LONGER in the land when the record was made. As the genealogy of Zara-Judah apparently ceases with the third generation, it naturally follows that most (if not all) of Zara's descendants must have left the main body during the time of Israel's captivity in Egypt -- and therefore BEFORE the Exodus. With this mind WHERE, then, did they go?

Since they were descendants of Judah their emblem was a lion. It is very unlikely that they would give up this emblem of their identity and descent -- even though bitterly resentful towards the rest of the Tribe of Judah. They therefore kept the lion as their emblem, but added their own variations to it to show that they were entirely separate and distinct from the Tribe of Judah in Israel. In their bitterness they would make the difference as great as possible without actually doing away with the symbol. So, instead of a tawny couchant lion, they depicted theirs as both rampant and red. As a result, the Rampant Red Lion became an emblem of the Zara branch of the Tribe of Judah.

Josephus ("Ant." i. 6, § 1), apparently reading "Tarshush," identifies it with Tarsus in Cilicia. This identification was adopted by Bunsen and Sayce ("Expository Times," 1902, p. 179); but it seems from Assyrian inscriptions that the original Hebrew name of Tarsus was not "Tarshush." Bochart (in his "Phaleg"), followed by many later scholars, identifies Tarshish with Tartessus, mentioned by Herodotus and Strabo as a district of southern Spain; he thinks, moreover, that "Tartessus" is the Aramaic form of "Tarshish."

It's all connected guys. All the praise and thanks to Yehovah and his holy spirit this day of Great Revealing!!!

Pre-Exodus Migrations

As we have already seen, the descendants of Zara-Judah, or most of them, decided to leave their brethren and flee out of Egypt to some new land (or lands) where they could establish independent kingdoms of their own. History and tradition records that they divided into two or more groups which then fled across the Mediterranean Sea from Egypt in different directions.

One of these groups was led by Calcol -- also known as Cecrops -- a great-grandson of Zara. Calcol and his group fled to Greece and founded the city of Athens. Another group, led by Darda or Dardanus, ended up in the Troad and became the ancestors of the Trojans. Not long prior to the Exodus, Gathelus (Miledh), a son of Cecrops or Calcol, returned to Egypt after killing a man. After assisting one of the pharaohs in his fight against the Ethiopians, Gathelus was given the hand of the pharaoh's daughter SCOTA in marriage. After living seven years in Egypt, Gathelus fled the land at the outset of the plagues and traveled westward to a land known today as Spain, where he settled for a number of years. During their time in Spain, Gathelus and his people founded a city which still bears the name of their ancestor Zara -- Zaragossa.

At this point we should realize that these descendants of Zara were racially Hebrews, being descended from Eber (Heber) through Abraham. Wherever they traveled they left this name like a footprint marking their journey to distant lands. Thus the river on the banks of which they founded the city of Zaragossa is still to this day called the Ebro, and to the land itself they gave the name Iberia -- the land of the Hiberi or Hebrews.

After residing for some time in Spain, Gathelus died and his widow Scota, along with her sons, left the land and voyaged northward to the island we now call Ireland. Once again, they took their name with them, calling their new home Hiber-land or Hibernia, and the islands to the north of it, the Hebrides. Then, with Eremon as their king, these descendants of Zara-Judah founded the Kingdom of Ulster shortly after the Exodus, AND FROM THAT TIME UNTIL THE PRESENT, a matter of nearly 3,400 years, the emblem of Ulster has been a Red Hand circled with a Scarlet Cord.

Milesius banner had three lions on it!

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I think I call that Checkmate. Wow, how exciting!

Thank you Brother!Yehovah Greatly bless you!

THE NAME'S THE GAME
This is an incomplete list of names for various groups of Israelites as they migrated.

Khumri, Cimmerians, Sakkas, Sacasene, Sacasune, Schythians, Cimbri, Thraco-Cimmerians, Celt, Galatians, Germans, Saxons, Normans, Danes, Gimira, Kimmeroii, Iskuza, Gauls, Angles, Picts, Iberes, Scots, Basques, Bretons, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Franks, Burgundians, Ostrogoths, Daci, Belgae, Massagetae and Sarmatians. Had enough?

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Wonderful Brother!!!

100 % Celt\Pict here .





Kinda neat being Jewish , no wonder the Khazars get a bit miffed .

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Lord Lucan(Bingham) returns lol

My very Irish/Gaelic name traces back to Derry/Ulster. This is incredible. I am blown away. Wow. Just how it call came together. The holy spirit at work no doubt! My finest thread in my GLP history.

lol think I need a breather. It's been intense.

Thanks for your contributions guys. Yehovah bless you!

Is that how you will speak to your king?

Is there no honor left in the Isles of the nations!

Its a damn McJew now...

Is that how you will speak to your king?

Is there no honor left in the Isles of the nations!
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Unless you are of the O'Neil dynesty you are not my king sorry. I 7am from the O'Cathain related closely t o the O'Neils all of us from the old aristocracy of Misha Eira but in modern times itl means nothing. But dream on friend dream on.

What is this nonsense.



Ireland is older than Spain yet you say Irish descended from Spain.

Sorry about that low self esteem. Face it The Irish only connection to Israel is through Rome who converted them from Heathen Pagan worship to Catholicism.

:hemad:

You don't know it but you are saying you have Black blood in you and you do. The only problem is that you got it from the Moors who ruled Iberia from 700AD-1200AD until they were finally driven underground by 1501.

African blood is the reason that the "Black Irish" look the way they do.

All of Europe has Black blood because the Moors were banging European Women to no end.

Europe has Black blood again from fucking African slaves during the era of the slave trade 1600's-1800's.

So all you are doing is squealing on yourself. You have no relationship to Egypt or the Levant at all.

OP is a Moor.

You don't know that the Windsors stole the throne from Mixed race Royals who were part Black.

You didn't know Scotland had a Black King.

You watch TV and see Black totally omitted that is why you don't know history.

You know propaganda and now because you feel powerless you want to be related to mythical Israelites that never existed.

Jews are converts. you too can convert and become a Jew. Problem solved.

Dummy.



All I see is a Celt who wishes he were more than he is. At least When Blacks claim Egypt Egypt is IN Africa and the people they claim REALLY lived.

You try to claim some relationship to Egypt through people that never even existed.

If the Pyramids were moved tomorrow to Mars you would claim that Celt's in space ships flew there and built them.

Covetous Ninny.

The Whitewashed TV has really fucked people up. I'll bet he thinks the Roman's were all tall pale and with English accents.

Indeed the empire as many were mixed.
Now the tribes themselves "uncivilized"
were a different matter.

Yeah ,is that a problem? I know enough about my heritage thank you,the Fact that the O'Cathain were the king makers(ie) the priests who inaugurated the O,Neil kings says it all.

This is such bullshit.
You've obviously had part of your brain circumsized.

The only reason you want to be related to Jews is because you are a Christian who has been brainwashed to worship them.

Guess what?

Jesus said Jews are no big wup.

Btw Ireland is Not in perpetual war as is USA EU (coalition)

I guess if it were true you would have seen it on a HBO original series or the His-Story channel.

waht pawher.

I won't allow you pitiful trolls to derail my Truthful thread. But thanks for bumping it.

The Moors invaded Spain in 711 AD: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The sons of Milesius died in Ireland about 2000 years before that.