So what exactly would an Obama executive order gun grab look like? | |
Billy Guess User ID: 547331 United States 12/05/2015 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... He just as well go ahead & order up a civil war if he and his fellow cohort "entities" dare to pull such a stunt on the populace -- more than a few states will be walls of lead,,,,,, Quoting: TEXAS 70971782 lol u wish, brainwashed fatsos too busy watching game of thrones, revolution can wait. you're just 1%. That's 3 million people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6544774 United States 12/05/2015 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would look highly unconstitutional. It violates separation of powers AND 2A. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6544774 The only thing he *might* be able to do legally is weakly redefine the term 'in the business' of gun sales, allowing him to set a background check on certain private sales if the individual sells x amount of firearms per year, probably 50 or so. ask the japanese americans about the constitution and what "they" can do... A different time and different political situation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70375757 Canada 12/05/2015 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so everyone worries about a supposed "gun grab" but can't define it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59111969 Well, that's the thing. It would be an unprecedented act so it's difficult for people to predict how it might go down. Having said that, that doesn't detract from the possibility that a POTUS may actually try to do it. It's always possible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70811560 United States 12/05/2015 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely he has watched the TV as one crazy woman in one car shut down DC or as two (or three) armed people shut down the entire country with LE members actually trying to stop the rampages! What would SBPD have done if it were fifteen Muslim terrorists instead of two (or three). As for using UN troops to enforce it, have you seen the Pakistanis marksmanship? Oh and our National guard troops won't come to their rescue when they get in a firefight in Waco, if anything the TNG will come to the aid of the U.S. Citizens. Obummer is sitting in checkmate and he doesn't realize it yet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70929770 United States 12/05/2015 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You kidding? They already folded on the immigration refusal. All they had to be threatened with was Federal money cutoff. they set up the gold repository for a reason. federal money itself comes from residents. if feds cut off money, States can cut off federal taxes and just keep the money inside their State. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 41780613 United States 12/05/2015 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He can say what he wants to, or issue an "executive order". Either way, he's fucked. He may think he's a badass, but he ain't never seen badass. Quoting: last one The backlash against "our dear leader" has begun in earnest already. Any attempt at a gun grab would kick it into high gear. Oh, Man, I've been waiting for 7 years for that "Backlash" card to be played. Each time he does something egregious and I think "OK, here comes the "Backlash" card", nothing happens. I have just about given up hope that anything or anyone (except maybe Donald Trump) can stop him. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 41780613 United States 12/05/2015 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Executive orders can only be given to federal or state agencies, not to citizens, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70696413 Well, federal and state agencies are the ones who enforce all the laws upon The People. Potato, potahto. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70660547 United States 12/05/2015 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can say goodbye to you're ar-15 ammo you gun nuts; we (society) have decided that we will no longer tolerate you over compensators- without ammo, you cucks cant kill innocents Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67254799 time for a new hobby white fatbois... Disarmed, You enablers will be the first ones put up against the wall and shot just like what happened to the Communist enablers in Central America when the Communists took over for a short while. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46494762 United States 12/05/2015 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can say goodbye to you're ar-15 ammo you gun nuts; we (society) have decided that we will no longer tolerate you over compensators- without ammo, you cucks cant kill innocents Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67254799 time for a new hobby white fatbois... must be trolling. there is so, so much .223 and .556 stacked away out there it wouldn't matter if they banned the sale. Americans have enough to kill everyone 10 times over |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46494762 United States 12/05/2015 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can say goodbye to you're ar-15 ammo you gun nuts; we (society) have decided that we will no longer tolerate you over compensators- without ammo, you cucks cant kill innocents Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67254799 time for a new hobby white fatbois... must be trolling. there is so, so much .223 and .556 stacked away out there it wouldn't matter if they banned the sale. Americans have enough to kill everyone 10 times over er 5.56mm |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70915980 United States 12/05/2015 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as a grab? An immediate one would likely only occur after a serious false flag involving some extrinsic threat, something big - a "we need them turned in temporaraily for safety" bit -or- for a 10 year term just media-hyped event after media-hyped event like SAN BERN will eventually do the trick. Younger and younger people are used to the idea that government can solve "mass shootings". Talk to any 16 year old today - they'll almost all advocate this position. In 10 years there will be overwhelming support to crush the 2nd amendment - that is the reality. Hate to break it to you but 40-60 year old gun owners are dying off and they have not shown any initiative to fix this issue or any other issue wrecking the country so... those 16 year olds are going to vote your gun rights away pretty shortly. And the registration has already happened - you are registering yourself everytime you go in for a "carry permit" or buying a gun at a gun store. That is a done deal don't kid yourself. As far as the "they fell off the boat" crowd - they'll fold like an old futon as soon as the federal threat letters and eventual interrogations start... That is the reality folks. Don't kid yourselves. You'll look over at your wife and kids and your meager savings and you will hand them over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506607 United States 12/05/2015 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You kidding? They already folded on the immigration refusal. All they had to be threatened with was Federal money cutoff. they set up the gold repository for a reason. federal money itself comes from residents. if feds cut off money, States can cut off federal taxes and just keep the money inside their State. We, Texas, got our gold back home from the feds. It is on like Donkey Kong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506607 United States 12/05/2015 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can say goodbye to you're ar-15 ammo you gun nuts; we (society) have decided that we will no longer tolerate you over compensators- without ammo, you cucks cant kill innocents Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67254799 time for a new hobby white fatbois... must be trolling. there is so, so much .223 and .556 stacked away out there it wouldn't matter if they banned the sale. Americans have enough to kill everyone 10 times over er 5.56mm I am pretty sure that we are neighbors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59010695 United States 12/05/2015 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see how he can do anything other that ban gun show sales or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59111969 He can't pass an EO that flies in face of a constitutional amendment, can he? He can't pass an EO regulating or limiting ammo or certain types of guns, can he? I don't know, i'm asking. opine please. It'd look like Connecticut. Citizens keeping their guns. The cops not doing anything about it, except for secretly agreeing with the citizens. |
moses737 User ID: 69803621 United States 12/05/2015 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From all indication, President Obama will be saying that if the continued killing keep happening on Americas streets, he has no choice but to carry out a national executive order but to take our guns, and leave us totally defenseless against his Muslim brothers and sisters for total annialation. That way, the Muslims will have a much easier time in destroying and enslaving Americans by his Puppet Masters, the new world order illuminutty (illuminati) bankers. Who are ruling him and the whole world!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70945109 United States 12/05/2015 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see how he can do anything other that ban gun show sales or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59111969 He can't pass an EO that flies in face of a constitutional amendment, can he? He can't pass an EO regulating or limiting ammo or certain types of guns, can he? I don't know, i'm asking. opine please. Rest assured... Anything that he does will not have the SLIGHTEST effect on illegal gun use. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50023508 United States 12/05/2015 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A terrorist act. Especially if he is to make such an announcement in the wake of a Paris style terroist attack by isis, rather than condemn the terrorist organizations actions and declare war, which he should be doing if he were not on the side of the terrorists, a terrorist himself. |
Engonoceras User ID: 45351036 United States 12/05/2015 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a good question. It's probably what he and his people have been trying to figure out how to do for the last 7 years. Possibilities: (a) Go completely dictatorial and order local authorities to go house to house and take them. Also raid and seize all gun shops and manufacturers. I can't see that happening without civil war. (b) Use the regulatory power of all his agencies to raise the cost of guns and ammo and limit supply. (c) Somehow get the Congress to pass purposely weak vague gun legislation that will allow him (and federal judges) to broadly interpret how he wants. That's actually been one of their methods. (d) Continue to flood America with terrorists and mass killings to force political pressure on the Republicans to cave. This will backfire because the more terrorism there is the more people are against gun control because they want to protect themselves. Any attempt to limit guns will only create a black market of people manufacturing them in their basements. Last Edited by TexasPaleo on 12/05/2015 11:20 PM |
Duncan the destroyer User ID: 6321368 United States 12/05/2015 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's coming because they're running out of time and our guns are the only thing stopping them. Duncan the destroyer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70945109 United States 12/05/2015 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I seen a plan once that (in short) would heavily tax gun owners on each individual weapon, the taxes would require annual re-registration, and if either the tax, (federal license fees) isn't paid in full, or firearm not re-registered annually the owner faces huge fines, and is considered to be in possession of firearms illegally... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26216676 That's MAJOR infringing. |
ChronicallyCurious User ID: 7747258 United States 12/05/2015 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will declare martial law and the military are gonna roll up to each and every house in their big intimidating trucks with a tablet with each and every gun you've bought registered or unregistered in it, and tell you to hand them over. If you have bought ammo for an interview registered gun they know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70945109 United States 12/05/2015 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He already ignores the Constitution, I believe his ignorance will get him thrown into jail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69557457 He swore to uphold the Constitution in front of everyone several times, I say they lock him up for perjury. The PRIMARY duty of the president, is to defend and uphold the constitution. There's simply no way around that. Any president that attacks or violates the constitution, is committing treason and needs to be hung. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70945109 United States 12/05/2015 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will declare martial law and the military are gonna roll up to each and every house in their big intimidating trucks with a tablet with each and every gun you've bought registered or unregistered in it, and tell you to hand them over. If you have bought ammo for an interview registered gun they know. Quoting: ChronicallyCurious So, what do you have left to lose at that point? Do you WANT to live (or die) in a Gulag (FEMA camp)? |