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All data is real life.

lifting the veil isn't a quick and simple task, aren't we just learning how to be more discerning when choosing to filter the data, when there is so much of it.

when choice is removed from the pool of observable data YOU have to go looking for the right information. The wise do this and rise to the top.

I think its a task humans are not very good at..yet. Give it a few generations and maybe we'll be better.
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I would respectfully like to argue this;
Data is information,
Data is unique to a receiver ( so not all )
Information received BY a person is acknowledged by the heart as knowledge.KNOWLEDGE by itself is not worth a lot.
Knowledge in concert with others knowldege BEGINS to form a base that "OTHERS" perceive and align with which then moves toward a logical conclusion. This works both toward Good & Toward evil .
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Data is information, we are information.
I agree perception is crucial, and I propose that with the increase of tech in our lives and the subsequent increase of data available; together with conscious choice we are programming our brains to process faster, more efficiently and ultimately to our advantage.

This fear of becoming zombielike because of the 'base' of knowledge is misplaced in my mind because I believe we are all part of source, the ultimate base of knowledge.

Thanks for the words btw.
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I'm encourage when I see respectful dialogue even when it is to express disagreement. Well done AC's...thanks for your participation in this thread.
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Revelation is apocalyptic symbolism. To answer your question, I have no idea at this point as at first I thought it was a literal mark:

Revelation 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell ( is this symbolic?)unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

But its a profession of Faith, not a physical mark (in my opinion). The hand symbolizes action and the head symbolizes intentions.
 Quoting: Sailor Uranus


I agree that Revelation is highly symbolic. Nobody is waiting around for monsters with lots of heads to come out of the sea. Thanks to some of the Dispensationalist teachings I think the Anti-Christ is hidden in plain sight too. I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

I thought about smartphones being the mark of the beast at a certain point. Think about being a pre-technology person shown a vision...a person holding a phone or having it next to their head. I agree with you....I don't for sure know what the mark will be like....but I do think it will be desirable for those of the world. I think not having it will bring misery for those who resist...misery inflicted by people. However that misery will be short-lived and it will bring glory to God.
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The Mark will used to cut off your spirit from God. It will be subtle, but the rf will change your DNA and keep the Holy spirit from ever reaching you again. You won't be able to remove the influence of the Beast ( and you won't even want to). It is the final, permanant slap in the face to your creator, blashemy and denial of the Holy Spirit. If the Lord does not cut those days short, no flesh will ever be saved again. It is the final hijacking of humanity after all the foundations were laid through popular culture/propogand and lies that you will never escape from.

Think about it: blashemy of the Holy Spirit IS the only unforgiveable sin
 Quoting: John 74014217



Blasphemy is the Greek word blasphemos and it means to call good evil and evil good. The Spirit is Truth. When you blasphemos the Spirit (Truth) you are exchanging the Truth for a lie (Romans 1:25) This is all foreordained by God!
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I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church
 Quoting: B@Z


correct.

And the 1st beast is the vatican.

2nd is the USA
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Revelation is apocalyptic symbolism. To answer your question, I have no idea at this point as at first I thought it was a literal mark:

Revelation 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell ( is this symbolic?)unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

But its a profession of Faith, not a physical mark (in my opinion). The hand symbolizes action and the head symbolizes intentions.
 Quoting: Sailor Uranus


I agree that Revelation is highly symbolic. Nobody is waiting around for monsters with lots of heads to come out of the sea. Thanks to some of the Dispensationalist teachings I think the Anti-Christ is hidden in plain sight too. I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

I thought about smartphones being the mark of the beast at a certain point. Think about being a pre-technology person shown a vision...a person holding a phone or having it next to their head. I agree with you....I don't for sure know what the mark will be like....but I do think it will be desirable for those of the world. I think not having it will bring misery for those who resist...misery inflicted by people. However that misery will be short-lived and it will bring glory to God.
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Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
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also it wont let them die...

Which is weird
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Yes....interesting thought to try and get our heads around. Imagine if you became a cyborg and allowed yourself to go into a "matrix-type" state. Where you would wish for death, but would be unable to die.

I expect that the end of the age will be much different than many people think.
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I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church
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correct.

And the 1st beast is the vatican.

2nd is the USA
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


THE Beast (neuter gender) is the current ruling world system laid out for us in the book of Daniel. Babylon, Persians/Modes, Greeks, Rome. The feet are an intermingling with Rome. That's where we are- it's the whole world.
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I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church
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correct.

And the 1st beast is the vatican.

2nd is the USA
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


I've been very wary when I see "Protestant Christian leaders" expressing a desire for Ecumenism with the Roman Catholic Church. There was a video that I watched with Kenneth Copeland and the Pope that just gave me a very icky feeling...and I'm not a big feelings guy.

I can tell you this for sure....if all of a sudden the only day that we can buy or sell is Saturday that would send up a big red flag for sure....but it also has to be something irrevocable right? We have to think about how they are going to get people to take a step...that they can't take back. That is what piqued my interest with this Elon Musk story. If you think about what it would be like to instantly access all of the information of the Internet with nothing but a thought....I can't imagine how hard it would be to go back to just knowing what you can remember.

Thanks for participating in the thread. tiphat
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Revelation is apocalyptic symbolism. To answer your question, I have no idea at this point as at first I thought it was a literal mark:

Revelation 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell ( is this symbolic?)unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

But its a profession of Faith, not a physical mark (in my opinion). The hand symbolizes action and the head symbolizes intentions.
 Quoting: Sailor Uranus


I agree that Revelation is highly symbolic. Nobody is waiting around for monsters with lots of heads to come out of the sea. Thanks to some of the Dispensationalist teachings I think the Anti-Christ is hidden in plain sight too. I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

I thought about smartphones being the mark of the beast at a certain point. Think about being a pre-technology person shown a vision...a person holding a phone or having it next to their head. I agree with you....I don't for sure know what the mark will be like....but I do think it will be desirable for those of the world. I think not having it will bring misery for those who resist...misery inflicted by people. However that misery will be short-lived and it will bring glory to God.
 Quoting: B@Z


Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
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See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
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The Mark will used to cut off your spirit from God. It will be subtle, but the rf will change your DNA and keep the Holy spirit from ever reaching you again. You won't be able to remove the influence of the Beast ( and you won't even want to). It is the final, permanant slap in the face to your creator, blashemy and denial of the Holy Spirit. If the Lord does not cut those days short, no flesh will ever be saved again. It is the final hijacking of humanity after all the foundations were laid through popular culture/propogand and lies that you will never escape from.

Think about it: blashemy of the Holy Spirit IS the only unforgiveable sin
 Quoting: John 74014217


Agree

Once a person takes it

The DNA is changed forever

You become satans

And no going back

You can't undo

Don't take the mark of the beast it
Is permanent damnation
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Most Christian
Churches today don't teach about the mark of the beast
Christians just want to hear feel good

This I believe is a good sign

The world is close to the mark

When Satans kingdom can lead
Gods people astray

We are close

Few will make it to heaven
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Elon Musk is now officially supporting Transhumanism

[link to www.cnbc.com]

I really thought he was smarter than this. All these intellectuals don't understand the human body is the greatest bio computer ever made. He talks about how fast a human can type to relay information vs a computer, how about how fast our brain processes information? Those who choose to meld with machines limit their consciousness and offend God in my belief. Initiates, Adepts, and Masters of the light are shaking their heads in sadness at this, I can guarantee you that. Idol1
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Revelation is apocalyptic symbolism. To answer your question, I have no idea at this point as at first I thought it was a literal mark:

Revelation 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell ( is this symbolic?)unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

But its a profession of Faith, not a physical mark (in my opinion). The hand symbolizes action and the head symbolizes intentions.
 Quoting: Sailor Uranus


I agree that Revelation is highly symbolic. Nobody is waiting around for monsters with lots of heads to come out of the sea. Thanks to some of the Dispensationalist teachings I think the Anti-Christ is hidden in plain sight too. I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

I thought about smartphones being the mark of the beast at a certain point. Think about being a pre-technology person shown a vision...a person holding a phone or having it next to their head. I agree with you....I don't for sure know what the mark will be like....but I do think it will be desirable for those of the world. I think not having it will bring misery for those who resist...misery inflicted by people. However that misery will be short-lived and it will bring glory to God.
 Quoting: B@Z


Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73938632


See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
 Quoting: B@Z


I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

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Hmmmm, can't explain the double post. Sorry.

God's will I suppose :D
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I agree that Revelation is highly symbolic. Nobody is waiting around for monsters with lots of heads to come out of the sea. Thanks to some of the Dispensationalist teachings I think the Anti-Christ is hidden in plain sight too. I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

I thought about smartphones being the mark of the beast at a certain point. Think about being a pre-technology person shown a vision...a person holding a phone or having it next to their head. I agree with you....I don't for sure know what the mark will be like....but I do think it will be desirable for those of the world. I think not having it will bring misery for those who resist...misery inflicted by people. However that misery will be short-lived and it will bring glory to God.
 Quoting: B@Z


Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73938632


See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
 Quoting: B@Z


I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

Bring your Word and search it out as Berean.
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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73938632


See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
 Quoting: B@Z


I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

Bring your Word and search it out as Berean.
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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

Thanks for reading my response! I was thinking the same in regards to the "desire" aspect --- I also have a hunch that this "mark" will be slowly introduced but is not implemented just yet. I'm bookmarking this post because I have been studying Revelations for long years and I am still stumped on the mark.
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Yet you use a microprocessor to tell the world...

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But seriously AI hooked up to humans is going to make people more awesome than ever. I bet rich people are the first to get the AI implants. Who doesn't want to download a medical degree into their brain?
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See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
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I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

Bring your Word and search it out as Berean.
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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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I'm starting to think the False Prophet is the apostate Christian church that is narcissistic and self-focused as opposed to God honoring and focused on spreading the glory of Christ to others.

Thanks for reading my response! I was thinking the same in regards to the "desire" aspect --- I also have a hunch that this "mark" will be slowly introduced but is not implemented just yet. I'm bookmarking this post because I have been studying Revelations for long years and I am still stumped on the mark.
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Please do...and if you come across any news that looks like it could fulfill the predictions of the mark of the beast I would be grateful if you shared them here. I try and update it with news that I think is relevant.
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Boz,you have exactly the right idea as you the false prophet being this ecumenical gathering of Churchianity and her whore mother Rome. Babylon is the mother of all idolatry.

As to your last point, you're absolutely correct that not having the mark of the beast brings misery to all instead sealed by the Living God. This is happening and has been happening since Cain slew Abel. Though we are not all physically killed, we are ostracized, rejected, mocked, hated, lost family/friends, all in the onoma of Christ for forsaking all to walk in the narrow Way.

The very word 'narrow' thlibo means tribulation. To walk in the narrow Way means we walk in fire, trial, and tribulation- or misery.

The mark is here, has been since the garden.
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See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
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I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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Fair question but no. I understand the time constraints. God willing, you'll find space at some point :)
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It's a real mark.

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See I don't think the mark is here yet....but disobedience and living for selfish desires certainly has been around for all of our lives. I think Christians in the western world (EU & N. America) can't even imagine what true persecution is like. I also think that persecution is actually a good thing. Why? Because I think that is how the Father snaps off the branches that don't abide in the vine of Christ (John 15). Suffering is what turns people to or away from God.
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I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

Bring your Word and search it out as Berean.
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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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Fair question but no. I understand the time constraints. God willing, you'll find space at some point :)
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Skip to minute 28:30 for anyone else who is going to watch this....
So far brother is preaching straight Romans 8:30...I love hearing the truth of Grace preached. Still listening....
*updated with a truth boom against the false profession of faith that is the Sinner's prayer...I'm liking it so far...

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I agree on the persecution piece.

Paul says,'What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.'

You and I usually agree on much. I realize on GLP there are many people and as many or mote opinions and links being shared, but I really do encourage you to check out the link I shared, a teaching on this very subject.

[link to graceandtruth.net]

Bring your Word and search it out as Berean.
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Is there a text version of content? I started on the content after you posted, but I'm not sure where I will have 145 minutes of uninterrupted focus time.

btw...I went ahead and zapped the duplicate post.
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Fair question but no. I understand the time constraints. God willing, you'll find space at some point :)
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Skip to minute 28:30 for anyone else who is going to watch this....
So far brother is preaching straight Romans 8:30...I love hearing the truth of Grace preached. Still listening....
*updated with a truth boom against the false profession of faith that is the Sinner's prayer...I'm liking it so far...
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LOL yup, sounds about right. I promise you will hear things that will challenge you, maybe not on this teaching, but others. Lean in bro, grab your bible, and study to show yourself approved! Truth is a crazy ride but worth every minute!
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It's a real mark.

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Of course its a real mark. Just not a physical one.
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Look to the pattern found throughout scripture; From creation, where the Spirit brought "order" from chaos; next the Garden with the deceiver, the devil...proceed to Jesus' own words that you can not serve two masters; to the chaos of Revelations then "order"; the Blessed Return and victory.

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Well, I just sat down to watch it with you and noticed they mistitled the teaching we are watching. The number on the board behind Jim says teaching 2766 but the title has 2765 Mark of the Beast. Well, I can rest in that being God's will, but I did wish for you to hear the teaching on the mark. It really opened my eyes from believing the typically taught 'physical, coming mark' to the charagma (the one who's law you follow) being the mark. If you're so inclined, you can search 'mark of the beast' in the search bar on graceandtruth.net, there are many more teachings on the subject. As many years as I've been listening, I've never seen the mistitle situation...

Sorry for the confusion!
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I'm not sure how reliable this source is...but the constant grooming of this subject is what is noticeable.


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All data is real life.

lifting the veil isn't a quick and simple task, aren't we just learning how to be more discerning when choosing to filter the data, when there is so much of it.

when choice is removed from the pool of observable data YOU have to go looking for the right information. The wise do this and rise to the top.

I think its a task humans are not very good at..yet. Give it a few generations and maybe we'll be better.
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I would respectfully like to argue this;
Data is information,
Data is unique to a receiver ( so not all )
Information received BY a person is acknowledged by the heart as knowledge.KNOWLEDGE by itself is not worth a lot.
Knowledge in concert with others knowldege BEGINS to form a base that "OTHERS" perceive and align with which then moves toward a logical conclusion. This works both toward Good & Toward evil .
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Data is information, we are information.
I agree perception is crucial, and I propose that with the increase of tech in our lives and the subsequent increase of data available; together with conscious choice we are programming our brains to process faster, more efficiently and ultimately to our advantage.

This fear of becoming zombielike because of the 'base' of knowledge is misplaced in my mind because I believe we are all part of source, the ultimate base of knowledge.

Thanks for the words btw.
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I'm encourage when I see respectful dialogue even when it is to express disagreement. Well done AC's...thanks for your participation in this thread.
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I like conversations of importance that need fleshing out in detail, I think this is one. Respect in conflict is paramount I think for progress. Threads good.

I don't want to derail, but I wonder how much I can talk outside the realms of accepted theology? Are we so far bibically inclined that there is non other? . tell me not, im good at direction.
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I would respectfully like to argue this;
Data is information,
Data is unique to a receiver ( so not all )
Information received BY a person is acknowledged by the heart as knowledge.KNOWLEDGE by itself is not worth a lot.
Knowledge in concert with others knowldege BEGINS to form a base that "OTHERS" perceive and align with which then moves toward a logical conclusion. This works both toward Good & Toward evil .
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Data is information, we are information.
I agree perception is crucial, and I propose that with the increase of tech in our lives and the subsequent increase of data available; together with conscious choice we are programming our brains to process faster, more efficiently and ultimately to our advantage.

This fear of becoming zombielike because of the 'base' of knowledge is misplaced in my mind because I believe we are all part of source, the ultimate base of knowledge.

Thanks for the words btw.
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I'm encourage when I see respectful dialogue even when it is to express disagreement. Well done AC's...thanks for your participation in this thread.
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I like conversations of importance that need fleshing out in detail, I think this is one. Respect in conflict is paramount I think for progress. Threads good.

I don't want to derail, but I wonder how much I can talk outside the realms of accepted theology? Are we so far bibically inclined that there is non other? . tell me not, im good at direction.
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I challenge "accepted theology" and have stoked the ire of my brothers and sisters on the subject of hell and the idea that humans are intrinsically immortal. I make my arguments based on biblical support. I have come to accept the authority of the bible as the word of God and see how it is miraculous that it has survived the attempts that man has made to suppress and corrupt it. That being said, though I may not agree you can share your perspectives here without worrying about canonical correctness. Did that answer your question?
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Data is information, we are information.
I agree perception is crucial, and I propose that with the increase of tech in our lives and the subsequent increase of data available; together with conscious choice we are programming our brains to process faster, more efficiently and ultimately to our advantage.

This fear of becoming zombielike because of the 'base' of knowledge is misplaced in my mind because I believe we are all part of source, the ultimate base of knowledge.

Thanks for the words btw.
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I'm encourage when I see respectful dialogue even when it is to express disagreement. Well done AC's...thanks for your participation in this thread.
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I like conversations of importance that need fleshing out in detail, I think this is one. Respect in conflict is paramount I think for progress. Threads good.

I don't want to derail, but I wonder how much I can talk outside the realms of accepted theology? Are we so far bibically inclined that there is non other? . tell me not, im good at direction.
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I challenge "accepted theology" and have stoked the ire of my brothers and sisters on the subject of hell and the idea that humans are intrinsically immortal. I make my arguments based on biblical support. I have come to accept the authority of the bible as the word of God and see how it is miraculous that it has survived the attempts that man has made to suppress and corrupt it. That being said, though I may not agree you can share your perspectives here without worrying about canonical correctness. Did that answer your question?
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Thanks. It did.

If the human mass moves towards a scientific solution, do we hide from that? I can't help thinking of early astronomy. Where would we be if we still thought us the center of the universe?
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A scientific solution for what?
A cashless economy is not in itself evil...it is that it much easier to control. When a government can prevent you from buying or selling unless you swear allegiance/worship it...that is the problem.
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