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Verify what? That you both are lost in legalism?
You 7th day adventists are really quite silly. You follow a lot of correct teachings but then you jump down your sabbath day rabbit hole. It's almost as if you haven't read the gospels.
Jesus himself worked on the sabbath constantly. He healed many people on the Sabbath. That in itself is what made the Pharisees want to put him to death...he didn't keep the sabbath. But somehow now you want to resurrect the false teachings of the Pharisees. Why do you put such heavy importance on something that Christ did not teach. In fact Christ broke the very sabbath that you attempt to exalt.
Having been freed from the law, why do you return to it for your salvation? or do you not know that Christ is salvation. Not a day of the week.
Let go of your legalistic ideals and realize that all is Christ. There is nothing else that leads to salvation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74151373


The commandments were NOT nailed to the cross like many would like you to believe. They were NOT Mosaic laws. They were directly given by God and the Sabbath day has never changed other than by man attempting to usurp it and Gods authority. Jesus most definitively did observe the Sabbath and the work that He did on it was the work of His ministry and the work that God sent Him to do.

He was rejected because those who wanted to still keep the levitical priesthood and all of the stipulations that came with it, could't have Jesus doing away with it as He came to do, but Jesus Himself says that the law remains in effect. Therefore the Sabbath remains in effect.

Furthermore, legalism comes from attempting to follow the Levitical Priesthood and the traditions of such which Jesus DID do away with. Sin is the transgression of the Law, without the law, there can be no sin. Since sin exists, the law also exists and still must be followed.

Following the law is LOVE.

Nor am I a Seventh Day Adventist you evil troll.
 Quoting: Osmium76


The law was not nailed to the cross. Ok. It was torn in Two, from top to bottom. You have not read the gospels or the rest of the New Testament. If you have, you do not have discernment.
All things unclean are now clean. All things are now lawful for me under Christ. Do all things edify? No. Are all things good for me? No. Some things that might trip up another brother I should not do. But not because it is unlawful, but because I love my brother.
Following the law is not love. You are very wrong here. Following the law leads to death because the law cannot save. It can only condemn.
Only following Jesus is love. Your adherence to the law is in fact legalism. You do not know Christ if you hold to the law.
If you are not a Seventh day Adventist why are you practicing and preaching their false doctrines?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Born of a virgin. Died for our sins. Christ is salvation. But in your mind I'm an evil troll?
Repent and follow Christ.
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All things unclean are clean? Show me where this is biblical? It isn't. Jesus died so that the gentiles could also have salvation. Acts 10 That is what the sheet of unclean animals meant and Peter even says so later on in scripture. It was not saying you could now eat unclean meat, which Noah was instructed to bring both clean and unclean animals into the ark. Why would God make such a distinction. Again, NOT MOSAIC laws, but decrees directly from God.

Same thing goes for the misconception people get that says any day can be kept. They misread that scripture too. That scripture isn't saying you can keep any day. It is saying not to let unbelievers sway or influence you from keeping the days you know you know you are supposed to. Colossians 2:

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The law was not nailed to the cross. Ok. It was torn in Two, from top to bottom. You have not read the gospels or the rest of the New Testament. If you have, you do not have discernment.
All things unclean are now clean. All things are now lawful for me under Christ. Do all things edify? No. Are all things good for me? No. Some things that might trip up another brother I should not do. But not because it is unlawful, but because I love my brother.
Following the law is not love. You are very wrong here. Following the law leads to death because the law cannot save. It can only condemn.
Only following Jesus is love. Your adherence to the law is in fact legalism. You do not know Christ if you hold to the law.
If you are not a Seventh day Adventist why are you practicing and preaching their false doctrines?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Born of a virgin. Died for our sins. Christ is salvation. But in your mind I'm an evil troll?
Repent and follow Christ.
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And neither am I a Seventh Day Adventist.

The Holy Spirit lead Jesus to keep the entire law, all 10 Commandments. If we are following in the footsteps of Christ, then we too will magnify the law and make it honourable. We will keep the entire law. As a matter of fact:

Isaiah 42:21  The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Christ came to fulfill the law. That is love. The Holy Spirit of Christ will not lead you to break the law of God, but will lead you to keep it. The law is spiritual, and Christ showed that. It means more than the literal interpretation. Thou shalt not steal does not only mean don't take things that belong to others, but that you should give to him that has need. And if you refrain from giving to those who have need, you're stealing, and how does the love of God dwell in you then?

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A Sabbath for the Earth and the Poor: The Challenge of Pope Francis - [link to www.indcatholicnews.com]

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Believing in Jesus is not enough, you guys have to fight over what Jesus really taught, hahahaha lol so much for the "simplicity" of the gospel. Start researching if Jesus really fulfilled messianic prophecies, then you'll use the NT to wiper your ass.
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Hey guys...please try and demonstrate grace while we are discussing this. My goal here is for us to keep our eyes (and minds) open to how the enemy is going to ensnare the majority of humanity with the mark. If this thread can warn even one of the elect...it was worth it.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

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I felt like I was going to be nauseous while reading Steven Witt's loving musings of implants that will detect our mood and help us make decisions for the benefit of free music. Disgusting! Articles like this will increase in frequency and candor as the people are groomed for their place in the NWO. Here is an excerpt:

The 2010s. With some embarrassment, you recall the regrettable years you spent pawing at your cellphone—back then, people still conceived of the Internet as somehow separate from “real life.” The roots of the transformation in music can be traced to that decade, although the technology was clumsy in its infancy. Seeking to differentiate their products in the streaming wars, Google and Apple (and Facebook, after it bought Spotify) spent hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring and developing rudimentary song-selection technology that was, for the longest time, a colossal bust. You never got the song you wanted, voice commands barely worked, and the term “DJ” referred to some French guy in a mask who wasn’t even monitoring your serotonin levels.

But then the convergence happened, and, as the old album title had it, “Nothing Was the Same.” Life without procedural remixing is tedious—two minutes into “Anaconda” and you’re already bored of the song. Your SmartChip registers the signature biochemicals of disappointment, but you refuse to revert to automatic mode. Listening to static music made purely by humans is an inferior experience, sure, but you feel it’s important to unplug from the AI every few days. You’re in charge here, right?
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You Christians just have to have some kind of chaos in your life to justify the fictitious Jesus story, don't you? When will you realize, no one is coming to save you? There have been many so called mark of the beast scenarios over the years and none have come to pass and none will.

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Verify what? That you both are lost in legalism?
You 7th day adventists are really quite silly. You follow a lot of correct teachings but then you jump down your sabbath day rabbit hole. It's almost as if you haven't read the gospels.
Jesus himself worked on the sabbath constantly. He healed many people on the Sabbath. That in itself is what made the Pharisees want to put him to death...he didn't keep the sabbath. But somehow now you want to resurrect the false teachings of the Pharisees. Why do you put such heavy importance on something that Christ did not teach. In fact Christ broke the very sabbath that you attempt to exalt.
Having been freed from the law, why do you return to it for your salvation? or do you not know that Christ is salvation. Not a day of the week.
Let go of your legalistic ideals and realize that all is Christ. There is nothing else that leads to salvation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74151373


The commandments were NOT nailed to the cross like many would like you to believe. They were NOT Mosaic laws. They were directly given by God and the Sabbath day has never changed other than by man attempting to usurp it and Gods authority. Jesus most definitively did observe the Sabbath and the work that He did on it was the work of His ministry and the work that God sent Him to do.

He was rejected because those who wanted to still keep the levitical priesthood and all of the stipulations that came with it, could't have Jesus doing away with it as He came to do, but Jesus Himself says that the law remains in effect. Therefore the Sabbath remains in effect.

Furthermore, legalism comes from attempting to follow the Levitical Priesthood and the traditions of such which Jesus DID do away with. Sin is the transgression of the Law, without the law, there can be no sin. Since sin exists, the law also exists and still must be followed.

Following the law is LOVE.

Nor am I a Seventh Day Adventist you evil troll.
 Quoting: Osmium76


The law was not nailed to the cross. Ok. It was torn in Two, from top to bottom. You have not read the gospels or the rest of the New Testament. If you have, you do not have discernment.
All things unclean are now clean. All things are now lawful for me under Christ. Do all things edify? No. Are all things good for me? No. Some things that might trip up another brother I should not do. But not because it is unlawful, but because I love my brother.
Following the law is not love. You are very wrong here. Following the law leads to death because the law cannot save. It can only condemn.
Only following Jesus is love. Your adherence to the law is in fact legalism. You do not know Christ if you hold to the law.
If you are not a Seventh day Adventist why are you practicing and preaching their false doctrines?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Born of a virgin. Died for our sins. Christ is salvation. But in your mind I'm an evil troll?
Repent and follow Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74151373


All things unclean are clean? Show me where this is biblical? It isn't. Jesus died so that the gentiles could also have salvation. Acts 10 That is what the sheet of unclean animals meant and Peter even says so later on in scripture. It was not saying you could now eat unclean meat, which Noah was instructed to bring both clean and unclean animals into the ark. Why would God make such a distinction. Again, NOT MOSAIC laws, but decrees directly from God.

Same thing goes for the misconception people get that says any day can be kept. They misread that scripture too. That scripture isn't saying you can keep any day. It is saying not to let unbelievers sway or influence you from keeping the days you know you know you are supposed to. Colossians 2:
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Why do you hold to what cannot save you? No amount of works(keeping the sabbath) can save Your soul.
Colossians 2? You mean this passage?
“Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭

Are you not being dogmatic, legalistic, and passing judgement based on the keeping of the Sabbath?
Stop passing judgement on others in regard to the Sabbath. You have become a stumbling block to those around you. When Paul calls these a shadow of things to come he is telling you they are not of importance. Stop trying to recreate the Law, that Jesus did nail to the cross.

“And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:13-14‬ ‭

“And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

If you know that Christ is your savior, and died for your sins, stop searching for salvation in the old Law. Keeping the Sabbath is merely a man held regulation. One day is not better than another. Every day is the Lords. We should pray and worship to God daily and continually, in the spirit. Not just on some tradition dictated special day of the week.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— "Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch" (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:13-14
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Deuteronomy 6:4-6  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:  5  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.  6  And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Deuteronomy 6:8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Revelation 7:2-3  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,  3  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Ezekiel 9:4-6  And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.  5  And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:  6  Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

God's commandments are as a sign upon your hands and forehead. In the last days, there are those who will be sealed with the seal of God. This seal is also recognized as a mark. Sign on your hands and forehead, seal and mark are all interchangeable words. What is the seal of God? The very same prophet answers that question chapters later.

Ezekiel 20:12  Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Ezekiel 20:20  And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

What is the sign, seal, mark between God and His children that they may know that He is their God, who sanctifies them? His Sabbath. The Sabbath is the day one keeps holy, and it's the day that one spends with God every single week, where they can put aside all things, and seriously get to know Him.

The mark of the beast is an opposing, sign, seal, or mark. And this mark is the sign between the beast and his people, that he is their god, and they will worship and obey him.
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

"Sunday is our MARK or authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.


Irregardless of what people may say, if they will refuse to keep the Sabbath, and refuse to get to know Christ, then they will be told to depart from Him for working lawlessness.

Matthew 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Verify what? That you both are lost in legalism?
You 7th day adventists are really quite silly. You follow a lot of correct teachings but then you jump down your sabbath day rabbit hole. It's almost as if you haven't read the gospels.
Jesus himself worked on the sabbath constantly. He healed many people on the Sabbath. That in itself is what made the Pharisees want to put him to death...he didn't keep the sabbath. But somehow now you want to resurrect the false teachings of the Pharisees. Why do you put such heavy importance on something that Christ did not teach. In fact Christ broke the very sabbath that you attempt to exalt.
Having been freed from the law, why do you return to it for your salvation? or do you not know that Christ is salvation. Not a day of the week.
Let go of your legalistic ideals and realize that all is Christ. There is nothing else that leads to salvation.
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NONE of them are making/doing God's law. NONE.

Did not Moses give you the law, and yet NONE of you makes/does the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

You then have to tear down your belief that they ARE doing God's laws.

This is a deception.
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Including your pagan religion: atheism.

No it was not. Jesus is truth.
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Why does the "mark of the beast" keep changing?

Long ago it was a mark, put ON your hand or forehead.
Last century it became the SSI number.
Then it became Bar Codes.
Then it became Implants.
Now it's this shit?

Are you christian idiots running out of idea's yet?
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Why does the "mark of the beast" keep changing?

Long ago it was a mark, put ON your hand or forehead.
Last century it became the SSI number.
Then it became Bar Codes.
Then it became Implants.
Now it's this shit?

Are you christian idiots running out of idea's yet?
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Why does the "mark of the beast" keep changing?

Long ago it was a mark, put ON your hand or forehead.
Last century it became the SSI number.
Then it became Bar Codes.
Then it became Implants.
Now it's this shit?

Are you christian idiots running out of idea's yet?
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Because Christians don't have a clue and constantly need reassurance for their fantasy. If there were no mark, in their mind what would be the point? The bible is an allegory, plain and simple. Paul told Christians this fact yet they push it to the side. Paul said "Do not be a minister of the letter for the letter kills" Can't get much plainer than that statement!
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Why does the "mark of the beast" keep changing?

Long ago it was a mark, put ON your hand or forehead.
Last century it became the SSI number.
Then it became Bar Codes.
Then it became Implants.
Now it's this shit?

Are you christian idiots running out of idea's yet?
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eekalert
This is a conspiracy forum...you know that right?

We are humans....we don't know what we don't know. I mean seriously think about this for a second. Imagine if I was to show an iphone to people who had yet to see complex machines. They wouldn't have the vocabulary to describe it. In the same way John was shown a vision and in that vision, people have a mark on their hand or their head and without it people cannot buy or sell. Do you expect him to say without it...people can't access the Internet?? So for almost 2000 years people would be like "the what?". No. He gave us the relevant info from the vision so that we would recognize it when we see it. Now think about this for a second...we are now at a time in history when buying and selling can actually be controlled. I know...this sounds like foolishness to you...I get it. You really have no choice but to think that.
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I think the mark of the beast will be a spiritual thing but these implants still sound like a stupid idea. Insomnia and seizures are the first two things that come to mind.
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Hey guys...please try and demonstrate grace while we are discussing this. My goal here is for us to keep our eyes (and minds) open to how the enemy is going to ensnare the majority of humanity with the mark. If this thread can warn even one of the elect...it was worth it.
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If the person is elect they don't have to be warned.
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Believing in Jesus is not enough, you guys have to fight over what Jesus really taught, hahahaha lol so much for the "simplicity" of the gospel. Start researching if Jesus really fulfilled messianic prophecies, then you'll use the NT to wiper your ass.
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Which prophecies are you referring to? He came and made himself a sacrifice as foretold, and was rejected as foretold. He will also return as foretold.

Whether you believe it or not is your business, but everything was fulfilled as prophesied, and his return will also be fulfilled.

Sorry that either the Talmud or the Koran and Hadith's have caused you to miss the simplicity of the prophecies and their fulfillment, as well as the timing that the messiah would come.
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If you could see and understand what I see an understand...


Everything that's happening on earth is an imitation, a false clone of the true operation of the alternate reality, heaven.


Full communication matrix so nothing is hidden.

People merging with machines, sex with dolls, mimics the logic process of how angels, merged with humans.

Acceptance of any personal character malfunction/depravity to mimic Love.

Instead of a rule set where there is no singular authority other than the self regulating system of Love, where an individual is free to do anything and self regulate, as long as they don't violate another individuals personal boundary without their complete understanding and permission...

The rule set is, survival of the fittest and magnetism towards a singular and powerful ruler who controls everyone by force.

And its sooooo difficult to see the difference, you can only see the difference from the perspective of the operator.

God vs Satan.

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Hey guys...please try and demonstrate grace while we are discussing this. My goal here is for us to keep our eyes (and minds) open to how the enemy is going to ensnare the majority of humanity with the mark. If this thread can warn even one of the elect...it was worth it.
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If the person is elect they don't have to be warned.
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thinkmacarthur

That is not true...God uses his people to transfer information about his kingdom. The line of reasoning you are proposing leads to absurdity.
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If you could see and understand what I see an understand...


Everything that's happening on earth is an imitation, a false clone of the true operation of the alternate reality, heaven.


Full communication matrix so nothing is hidden.

People merging with machines, sex with dolls, mimics the logic process of how angels, merged with humans.

Acceptance of any personal character malfunction/depravity to mimic Love.

Instead of a rule set where there is no singular authority other than the self regulating system of Love, where an individual is free to do anything and self regulate, as long as they don't violate another individuals personal boundary without their complete understanding and permission...

The rule set is, survival of the fittest and magnetism towards a singular and powerful ruler who controls everyone by force.

And its sooooo difficult to see the difference, you can only see the difference from the perspective of the operator.

God vs Satan.


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The idea of God vs Satan is a false dichotomy. God is all powerful, all knowing, transcending creation. Satan is a creation and his life is sustained by God (as is all life). He is no more of a threat to God than a molecule of oxygen is a threat to you or I.

I do think you are on to something though with the newest form of sexual immortality: sex w/ robots. This moves us further down the road to degrading our humanity as image bearers of God.
It reminds me of this section of Romans 1:28-32
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

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Hey guys...please try and demonstrate grace while we are discussing this. My goal here is for us to keep our eyes (and minds) open to how the enemy is going to ensnare the majority of humanity with the mark. If this thread can warn even one of the elect...it was worth it.
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If the person is elect they don't have to be warned.
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thinkmacarthur

That is not true...God uses his people to transfer information about his kingdom. The line of reasoning you are proposing leads to absurdity.
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bump

Thanks for the discussion B@Z.

There are a lot of people with differing ideas. Not everyone will agree. Hopefully people can take from this thread what is important and apply it to their lives.

For those who argue that keeping the Sabbath day, which is one of the Commandments is legalism, dogma or judging, by those of us who study and read biblical scripture, it isn't. We only wish to guide others to what it says and share that knowledge and wisdom.

The Ten Commandments are not suggestions. Obeying them fulfills the law and thus frees one from the law. It is only by transgressing them that the law is broken and one falls into sin. Regardless, all men are sinners, some by ignorance and others by willful disobedience.

Jesus Christ observed and lived by the law, NOT mans laws, but Gods laws. Had He not done so, He would not have been perfect and would have sinned against God our Father Himself, which we know isn't the case.

Furthermore, those who do as Commanded are those who are called Saints in Revelation. Those who abide by Gods laws will be the ones who should be able to avoid taking the mark of the beast, by the very fact that they reject the world and hold to their faith in Jesus and their willingness to follow the law even while being persecuted for doing so as Jesus Himself was. It is those who will be sealed, while others are marked.

If you have any doubts to this, then you only need to read scripture below and it clearly says this is the case.

Revelation 14
9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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I appreciate the bump and engagement Oz.

My concern is we exercise vigilance against the schemes of the enemy. My concern for those who think that Sabbath violating is the mark of the beast is that they will not see the danger of the type of mark I am describing and just think "hey....kewl tech!". I don't see the "Sabbath related mark of the beast" asserting itself to prevent buying or selling, but if it does I would certainly think back to these conversations and question my position.

I have thoughts based on scripture about the Sabbath that I would be happy to discuss in another thread...link to the one you follow and we can engage on that topic there if you are interested.
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Deuteronomy 6:4-6  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:  5  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.  6  And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Deuteronomy 6:8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Revelation 7:2-3  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,  3  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Ezekiel 9:4-6  And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.  5  And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:  6  Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

God's commandments are as a sign upon your hands and forehead. In the last days, there are those who will be sealed with the seal of God. This seal is also recognized as a mark. Sign on your hands and forehead, seal and mark are all interchangeable words. What is the seal of God? The very same prophet answers that question chapters later.

Ezekiel 20:12  Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Ezekiel 20:20  And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

What is the sign, seal, mark between God and His children that they may know that He is their God, who sanctifies them? His Sabbath. The Sabbath is the day one keeps holy, and it's the day that one spends with God every single week, where they can put aside all things, and seriously get to know Him.

The mark of the beast is an opposing, sign, seal, or mark. And this mark is the sign between the beast and his people, that he is their god, and they will worship and obey him.
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

"Sunday is our MARK or authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.


Irregardless of what people may say, if they will refuse to keep the Sabbath, and refuse to get to know Christ, then they will be told to depart from Him for working lawlessness.

Matthew 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


My friend, have you never read this?
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


Or this:
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


I would submit to you that it is the Holy Spirit that is the seal placed upon those who believe.

To fall back into following the letter would be to crucify Christ a second time, and that, we who believe shall not do. I believe there is a law for believers to follow but it is not written on stones but in flesh, in our hearts and in our minds he has set them.

I also do not believe that Sabbath worship is the mark, I do not believe that with any part of me, otherwise Christ’s sacrifice would not have been required: Christ IS our Sabbath rest!

I also believe that Sabbath must come back and be enforced on the entire world as part of the deception, part of the hour of testing that comes upon the entire world, else why would Jesus say, "pray that you flight be not in winter, nor on the Sabbath."
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Elon Musk shares how humanity will "survive" AI using neural lace hardwiring your brain to computers.

At the World Government Summit in Dubai, in February, Musk again cued the scary organ music, evoking the plots of classic horror stories when he noted that “sometimes what will happen is a scientist will get so engrossed in their work that they don’t really realize the ramifications of what they’re doing.” He said that the way to escape human obsolescence, in the end, may be by “having some sort of merger of biological intelligence and machine intelligence.” This Vulcan mind-meld could involve something called a neural lace—an injectable mesh that would literally hardwire your brain to communicate directly with computers. “We’re already cyborgs,” Musk told me in February. “Your phone and your computer are extensions of you, but the interface is through finger movements or speech, which are very slow.” With a neural lace inside your skull you would flash data from your brain, wirelessly, to your digital devices or to virtually unlimited computing power in the cloud. “For a meaningful partial-brain interface, I think we’re roughly four or five years away.”

[link to www.vanityfair.com]

Four or five years away....this is exactly what I was talking about on page 5...
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Elon Musk shares how humanity will "survive" AI using neural lace hardwiring your brain to computers.

At the World Government Summit in Dubai, in February, Musk again cued the scary organ music, evoking the plots of classic horror stories when he noted that “sometimes what will happen is a scientist will get so engrossed in their work that they don’t really realize the ramifications of what they’re doing.” He said that the way to escape human obsolescence, in the end, may be by “having some sort of merger of biological intelligence and machine intelligence.” This Vulcan mind-meld could involve something called a neural lace—an injectable mesh that would literally hardwire your brain to communicate directly with computers. “We’re already cyborgs,” Musk told me in February. “Your phone and your computer are extensions of you, but the interface is through finger movements or speech, which are very slow.” With a neural lace inside your skull you would flash data from your brain, wirelessly, to your digital devices or to virtually unlimited computing power in the cloud. “For a meaningful partial-brain interface, I think we’re roughly four or five years away.”

[link to www.vanityfair.com]

Four or five years away....this is exactly what I was talking about on page 5...
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I thought that Musk was against A.I. take over? Now from this article he seems to be promoting it. Im confused about that whole situation.
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He is suggesting merging with AI (similar to Kurzweil on page 7). This is what I am seeing as the move that will become the inflection point for the NWO.
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Deuteronomy 6:4-6  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:  5  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.  6  And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Deuteronomy 6:8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Revelation 7:2-3  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,  3  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Ezekiel 9:4-6  And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.  5  And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:  6  Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

God's commandments are as a sign upon your hands and forehead. In the last days, there are those who will be sealed with the seal of God. This seal is also recognized as a mark. Sign on your hands and forehead, seal and mark are all interchangeable words. What is the seal of God? The very same prophet answers that question chapters later.

Ezekiel 20:12  Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Ezekiel 20:20  And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

What is the sign, seal, mark between God and His children that they may know that He is their God, who sanctifies them? His Sabbath. The Sabbath is the day one keeps holy, and it's the day that one spends with God every single week, where they can put aside all things, and seriously get to know Him.

The mark of the beast is an opposing, sign, seal, or mark. And this mark is the sign between the beast and his people, that he is their god, and they will worship and obey him.
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

"Sunday is our MARK or authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.


Irregardless of what people may say, if they will refuse to keep the Sabbath, and refuse to get to know Christ, then they will be told to depart from Him for working lawlessness.

Matthew 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


My friend, have you never read this?
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


Or this:
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


I would submit to you that it is the Holy Spirit that is the seal placed upon those who believe.

To fall back into following the letter would be to crucify Christ a second time, and that, we who believe shall not do. I believe there is a law for believers to follow but it is not written on stones but in flesh, in our hearts and in our minds he has set them.

I also do not believe that Sabbath worship is the mark, I do not believe that with any part of me, otherwise Christ’s sacrifice would not have been required: Christ IS our Sabbath rest!

I also believe that Sabbath must come back and be enforced on the entire world as part of the deception, part of the hour of testing that comes upon the entire world, else why would Jesus say, "pray that you flight be not in winter, nor on the Sabbath."
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I have read that, but the entire context of the Scriptures talks about a seal/mark/sign upon the hands and the forehead. This is never mentioned in context with the Holy Spirit. Yes, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto redemption, but this is not what John is referring to. Just like we use the book of Daniel to help understand Revelation, so too we need to take the understanding given in Exodus, Deuteronomy, Ezekiel, and Proverbs to arrive at the correct interpretation of Revelation. Revelation is defined in other places of the Bible. So you have to understand them, to understand Revelation.

Jesus is not our Sabbath rest, rather He is the Lord of the Sabbath rest. To reject the Lord's Sabbath is to reject His rest. It was Jesus who formed the heavens, the earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested on the 7th Day. It was Jesus who formed man on the 6th Day, and set apart the 7th Day, and blessed it, and made it holy. Therefore if man, created on the sixth day, would honor his Maker, he will rest on his Creator's Sabbath. Any other suggestion as to a Sabbath rest would be wrong, because there was only one day chosen out of the week to be the Sabbath rest. God picked the day, we rest upon it.

There is no prophecy that God's 7th Day Sabbath will be enforced upon the entire world. Rather, there is a prophecy that the false sabbath, the mark of the Roman Catholic Church, would be enforced upon the world, beginning with the Christian Churches in America. And that time is much nearer than many believe.


Sunday Laws Are Coming!

A Sabbath for the Earth and the Poor: The Challenge of Pope Francis - [link to www.indcatholicnews.com]

Sabbath For All Creation - Dave Bookless - [link to arocha.us (secure)]

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He is suggesting merging with AI (similar to Kurzweil on page 7). This is what I am seeing as the move that will become the inflection point for the NWO.
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It does seem to be that the progression of electronic devices and the syncing of them closer and closer to humans is showing signs of further enslavement of humans.

Another thing ive noticed is how certain people just tend to pop up out of no where and become a face for a certain topic, often controversial.

I believe I first heard about Musk concerning Humans to Mars, now its this A.I. bit.

I think to add to this discussion of the mark of the beast, is to say that certain people in this world are false prophets. Promoting one thing that may sound great but ultimately will cause harm.
And at another time, when they raised a question about fortifications, he said that a city is not unfortified whose crowning glory is men and not bricks and stones.
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He is suggesting merging with AI (similar to Kurzweil on page 7). This is what I am seeing as the move that will become the inflection point for the NWO.
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It does seem to be that the progression of electronic devices and the syncing of them closer and closer to humans is showing signs of further enslavement of humans.

Another thing ive noticed is how certain people just tend to pop up out of no where and become a face for a certain topic, often controversial.

I believe I first heard about Musk concerning Humans to Mars, now its this A.I. bit.

I think to add to this discussion of the mark of the beast, is to say that certain people in this world are false prophets. Promoting one thing that may sound great but ultimately will cause harm.
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That is an interesting line of thought that has occurred to me before. I've often wondered if the villains of the world see themselves as villains or just misunderstood saviors. I remember when I saw the Matrix for the first time...I thought to myself "Wow...that would be amazing! To experience virtual reality with that level of depth and to be able to apply instantaneous learning would be awesome". I think if things progress along the line predicted that we are discussing, there will be very few who will not gladly, graciously, and excitedly opt in for being merged into the Internet/Global Consciousness AI. You basically inherit a godlike intelligence with all of the knowledge of the Internet accessible to you at the speed of thought. I believe only the elect will refuse it. The persecution of those who reject the interface will be natural to those of the GC-AI as we exterminate lower thought forms (bugs, rodents, etc). A terrifying thought for those without true saving faith. I think this event will cause those who are pretending to be Christians to quickly abandon their position and God will be glorified. His people will stand in defiance to persecution and preach the gospel to the end of the world.
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That is an interesting line of thought that has occurred to me before. I've often wondered if the villains of the world see themselves as villains or just misunderstood saviors. I remember when I saw the Matrix for the first time...I thought to myself "Wow...that would be amazing! To experience virtual reality with that level of depth and to be able to apply instantaneous learning would be awesome". I think if things progress along the line predicted that we are discussing, there will be very few who will not gladly, graciously, and excitedly opt in for being merged into the Internet/Global Consciousness AI. You basically inherit a godlike intelligence with all of the knowledge of the Internet accessible to you at the speed of thought. I believe only the elect will refuse it. The persecution of those who reject the interface will be natural to those of the GC-AI as we exterminate lower thought forms (bugs, rodents, etc). A terrifying thought for those without true saving faith. I think this event will cause those who are pretending to be Christians to quickly abandon their position and God will be glorified. His people will stand in defiance to persecution and preach the gospel to the end of the world.
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I think many people who are acting wickedly essentially either see it as not wicked or are oblivious to it being wicked in the first place.

I think many people who possess even a sliver of attention on the grand scale that media tends to give become sucked into a mindset of possessing Delusions of Grandeur.

Often times when attention is placed on someone, after a certain time they will lose the "15 minutes of fame" so to speak, unless they raise the bar and go over the top.

This notion of extending oneself and seeking to outlive natures due course can be seem as wicked, as the ends of acting such way tend to be unnatural and not Good.

I tend to hold that most people are just ignorant of the Truth and typically go into something with decent intentions but ultimately fail when they seek to over extend themselves. Creating the increase in probability of becoming and promoting Wicked things.
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Ok...I'll warn you up front about this post...it is going to be pretty far out there...

So I have been doing some research about what it means to be human. Trying to understand terms like soul & spirit and how they apply to us. To greatly summarize:
Spirit = wind/breath/life it is the life that God gives us of which he alone is the source.
Soul = Mind/consciousness/thoughts it is that which is produced by our brain...the software compared to the hardware (I know this probably goes against what many think since dualism is practically assumed in most cultures today).

So how does the above play into the purpose of this thread?

The thought I had this morning is that the MotB is going to be an interface that connects our brains into the Internet. It will absolutely revolutionize our world and will be irresistible to most everyone because it will expand your mind to almost limitless levels of information capabilities. Now here is the thing...if you allow your mind/consciousness/thoughts to be merged into the collective it will be impossible for you to become "you" again. For those who have experienced the "false oneness" of connectedness through the interface...they wouldn't dream of disconnecting.

That is what I was thinking about this morning...feel free to chime in with your own speculation or thoughts.
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interesting. to me it looks like the film "Transcendence" where everyone who is wired in has totally lost free will, which seems to be essential to God's plan, else how can He know we love Him? Love cannot be coerced or forced, but must be a sincere choice from the heart… to some extent, people are already lost to this system… surviving on serotonin bumps of the material gratifications and never going deeper, often because it is too painful… people are risk and pain avoidance… so the strong delusion sweeps them away by their own choice not to love the One who Created all things.
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More news about the interface between our brains and computers:

Device that can literally read your mind invented by scientists

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

These are the two bits that really got my attention

They now plan to develop a “brain-computer interface” that can recognise words that are merely thought and not spoken.


“It is also expected that the technology would give a healthy person the most natural interface without any limitations as well.

If we can read the signals of the brain, writing signals to the brain is a natural development.
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Lets see. Signs of the "mark of the beast".
1. SSA number.
2. The FEDERAL reserve.
3. BAR codes.
4. RFID
5. Cashless society.
6. Now AI???

Come on, which is it? Can't you religitards make up your minds? I mean, what's next, my phone? Oh you forgot about that one eh? FFS. There is no mark of the beast, there is no Anti-Christ, I doubt any of it is even real.
Consider this. If the books written by PEOPLE, that make up the bible are "holy" because they were "inspired by God", then why did the Catholics leave out 18 they felt were not worthy?

It's all a scam by the churchs to keep your ass in line.
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A better question is this:
If the Roman Catholic Church was really concerned about spreading the gospel...why did they kill people who translated it into the common languages from Latin? Why did they destroy early manuscripts?

Your mockery of the list proves something you might not be aware of....there was a time when the Mark of the Beast controlling buying or selling made absolutely no sense at all. How could someone stop everyone from buying or selling? And now...here we are. Also...if you saw my disclaimer...I have already admitted that I could be a complete kook for my suggestion. I'm not sure if it inspired or not...and I say so. I could be dead wrong and it would not reduce the power or authority of God's word.

Honestly though...I'm grateful that you took the time to review the content...even if only to mock it.
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I don't know if anyone has already covered this, but in Revelation 13:17, there are three things that quantify the mark.
1) The mark
2) The name of the Beast
3) The number of his name

Then in 13:18, "the number of a man"....In this case, and ONLY in this case, the Greek word Strong's 444,is translated as "man" when it means "countenance" or face.

All driver's license pics are going to a company named MorphoTrust. These are high def, FBI Next Gen compliant facial recognition pics. Morpho then sends it to Safran Int'l who then sends it to the IMF and World Bank and Interpol.

Try getting a job, a bank account, cashing checks, or anything to do with "commerce" as they have extrapolated the definition, without having a government approved picture ID.

Countenance. Man's face. Translated into numbers, hence the term digital photograph.

I do not believe Satan will go, "Hey guys! You have to worship me or I won't let you buy or sell!" Worship also means to be in obedience to an acknowledged higher authority.

So...an interface with computers whereby your face or body, which is supposed to be the temple of YHVH, becomes the mode through which you may buy and sell.

What do you think? Am I all wet?
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.


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