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Revbo™ User ID: 67405628 United States 12/10/2015 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, OP. So sick of the bullshit coming from the tobacco companies about vaping. From your article: "Farsalinos adds that the researchers fail to mention the presence of these compounds in tobacco cigarette smoke. “This omission creates the impression that e-cigarettes are exposing users to a new chemical hazard while in reality their exposure will be much lower compared to smoking.” "But even more concerning for those who may want to exaggerate the risks of using e-cigarettes, is that even tobacco smoke has no identifiable link with any cases of popcorn lung." "According to Critical Reviews in Toxicology, “smoking has not been shown to be a risk factor for bronchiolitis (popcorn lung).“ Read more: [link to dailycaller.com] So, the stuff doesn't even cause Popcorn Lung in smokers, and they get 100 times the dose vapers get. Why is this being reported as news? It's not even worth mentioning, the levels are so low. So because 8 people got sick in the 90s, or a couple people with a modified e-cig blew themselves up, we're all just supposed to quit everything? Fuck that. I love nicotine. It chills me out when I'm stressed, and it picks me up when I need it. Since I quit smoking and started vaping, I almost never get sick, and when when I do, colds last 2-4 days, and are very mild compared to what they were when I smoked. I used to be sick for a week, and then have bronchitis for a month. None of that happens anymore. I'm healthier now than I was 15 years ago. Thanks, e-cigs. Last Edited by Revbo™ on 12/10/2015 09:21 AM John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69245407 United States 12/10/2015 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaping is killing people. Ask health care professionals. Vaping coats the lungs with oil and other chemicals. Healthy people die from it,fact! Quoting: Air daddy 56 70388953 You mean the same healthcare professionals that tell me to get a vaccine but also tell me that if i get the vaccine to not be around people who autoimmune diseases for 21 days even though I myself have an autoimmune disease? Yeah, *those* guys. And they tell me the mercury is safe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71004514 United States 12/10/2015 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I ask is you ignorant dumb fucks click my link the OP and read. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71001754 The UK has already said vaping is 95% safer than smokong, that it can save many lives and UK doctors support vaping. well, its probably as safe as flouride, then. uk doctors only support what is best for patients, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70801740 United States 12/10/2015 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I went out and bought myself an Aspire Atlantis tank and a couple batteries about one year ago or so. I have not looked back since. Not to fucking mention I can breathe again and my night time weezing is gone. Let them talk shit all they want. |
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Revbo™ User ID: 67405628 United States 12/10/2015 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaping is killing people. Ask health care professionals. Vaping coats the lungs with oil and other chemicals. Healthy people die from it,fact! Quoting: Air daddy 56 70388953 Got that right. Other than the stories of a couple guys with souped up modified battery packs blowing themselves up, I have heard exactly zero stories of vaping killing anyone, and you know they're looking for those stories. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70801740 United States 12/10/2015 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaping is killing people. Ask health care professionals. Vaping coats the lungs with oil and other chemicals. Healthy people die from it,fact! Quoting: Air daddy 56 70388953 Got that right. Other than the stories of a couple guys with souped up modified battery packs blowing themselves up, I have heard exactly zero stories of vaping killing anyone, and you know they're looking for those stories. Of course they are! They do not wanna take the tax hit from cig sales declining. Everyone spewing this nonsense are morons or butthurt weak minded cunts that cannot stop smoking even with vaping |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71001754 United States 12/10/2015 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, OP. So sick of the bullshit coming from the tobacco companies about vaping. From your article: Quoting: Revbo™ "Farsalinos adds that the researchers fail to mention the presence of these compounds in tobacco cigarette smoke. “This omission creates the impression that e-cigarettes are exposing users to a new chemical hazard while in reality their exposure will be much lower compared to smoking.” "But even more concerning for those who may want to exaggerate the risks of using e-cigarettes, is that even tobacco smoke has no identifiable link with any cases of popcorn lung." "According to Critical Reviews in Toxicology, “smoking has not been shown to be a risk factor for bronchiolitis (popcorn lung).“ Read more: [link to dailycaller.com] So, the stuff doesn't even cause Popcorn Lung in smokers, and they get 100 times the dose vapers get. Why is this being reported as news? It's not even worth mentioning, the levels are so low. So because 8 people got sick in the 90s, or a couple people with a modified e-cig blew themselves up, we're all just supposed to quit everything? Fuck that. I love nicotine. It chills me out when I'm stressed, and it picks me up when I need it. Since I quit smoking and started vaping, I almost never get sick, and when when I do, colds last 2-4 days, and are very mild compared to what they were when I smoked. I used to be sick for a week, and then have bronchitis for a month. None of that happens anymore. I'm healthier now than I was 15 years ago. Thanks, e-cigs. Thanks for quoting the link for me, couldn't do it on my phone. It truly amazes me how fast these "awake" people fall for big tabbaco/pharma propaganda! |
Revbo™ User ID: 67405628 United States 12/10/2015 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, OP. So sick of the bullshit coming from the tobacco companies about vaping. From your article: Quoting: Revbo™ "Farsalinos adds that the researchers fail to mention the presence of these compounds in tobacco cigarette smoke. “This omission creates the impression that e-cigarettes are exposing users to a new chemical hazard while in reality their exposure will be much lower compared to smoking.” "But even more concerning for those who may want to exaggerate the risks of using e-cigarettes, is that even tobacco smoke has no identifiable link with any cases of popcorn lung." "According to Critical Reviews in Toxicology, “smoking has not been shown to be a risk factor for bronchiolitis (popcorn lung).“ Read more: [link to dailycaller.com] So, the stuff doesn't even cause Popcorn Lung in smokers, and they get 100 times the dose vapers get. Why is this being reported as news? It's not even worth mentioning, the levels are so low. So because 8 people got sick in the 90s, or a couple people with a modified e-cig blew themselves up, we're all just supposed to quit everything? Fuck that. I love nicotine. It chills me out when I'm stressed, and it picks me up when I need it. Since I quit smoking and started vaping, I almost never get sick, and when when I do, colds last 2-4 days, and are very mild compared to what they were when I smoked. I used to be sick for a week, and then have bronchitis for a month. None of that happens anymore. I'm healthier now than I was 15 years ago. Thanks, e-cigs. Thanks for quoting the link for me, couldn't do it on my phone. It truly amazes me how fast these "awake" people fall for big tabbaco/pharma propaganda! I agree this is propaganda, but I wouldn't label the whole site with that, though. There are hundreds of thousands of GLPers, and it only takes a couple vocal shills to change the tone of a thread. It can even be done by one AC with a few proxies and an agenda to make it look like there is a lot more support for something than there is. We've had plenty of e-cigs-will-kill-you threads over the last few years, and they are usually debunked very quickly. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71001754 United States 12/10/2015 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True, it just made my blood boil reading thr comments to that Harvard propaganda piece. Vaping has saved my life, amd I want everyone to have a chance to save their lives and quit smoking and start vaping as well. Im currently rocking my Sigelei 150W TC at 75.5 watts with dual 24G/32G clapton coils vaping Lemon Head. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 70246439 Canada 12/10/2015 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaping is killing people. Ask health care professionals. Vaping coats the lungs with oil and other chemicals. Healthy people die from it,fact! Quoting: Air daddy 56 70388953 Vaping does no such thing. And the chemicals they're talking about are even higher in cigarettes and tobacco. And there is no evidence that this happens with tobacco. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!!!! The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70101622 United States 12/10/2015 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Average tax on cigs is about 5 dollars a pack. Assume 30 million packs a DAY. = 150 million dollars a day in tax revenue. X7= 1 billion 50 million dollars a week X 52 = a lot of friggin money a year lost to ecig sales. Yeah, gov wants you to stop smoking. The money for medical for sick smokers is usually not paid by gov but by insurance companies. Everyone is out for their own interests. Ecigs do have a risk. But they are orders of magnitude lower than traditional cigs. Gov has a vested interest in you smoking cigs. |
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