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Homosexuality is caused by being molested

 
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This theory proves true in my particular experience...

As a young boy, my brother was molested repeatedly by the same person and is now gay. This became apparent in his late teens. In his early teens he was attracted to girls beyond his reach. I believe the final 'nail in the coffin' was that his first sexual experience was with a boy.
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I had a brother (he committed suicide a year ago..) who switched to being gay in his late teens as well, except he (as far as I know) didn't get molested. On the other hand my dad was really harsh on him, me too, but him even worse and it seemed to make him socially withdraw. Some girls liked him, but he was always afraid to talk to them or build relationships.

In my estimation it isn't necessarily molestation that causes it, like some curse gets put on you if you get molested, it's the crushing of a child's spirit at the beginning of their transition into adulthood (9-12) that renders them dysfunctional.

My brother was too socially dysfunctional to get a girl to like him, but I'll tell you what, Grindr fixes the "I can't get laid" situation in a jiffy, no matter how socially inept or ugly you are. Once he found Grindr there was no bringing him back.
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I am sorry to read about your brother. There are higher rates of suicide among gay-identifying people. Did he ever try Tinder or OKCupid or just going out and striking up conversation and collecting numbers? I dated girls, too, but I like guys and partner and I clicked. I know that I am lucky. I wish you all the best and I am sorry for your loss.
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So every species in the animal kingdom is raped
Do some research
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Actually there has been a lot of research into this. Especially with Ducks. In which rape is extremely common.

I saw one master's or PHD thesis about research on some ducks that were specifically both homosexual+necrophilic. And the conclusion was that it was because of the rape environment in this particular species (ducks).
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Obammy's new portrait....or is it Moochell ?

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that's my hungover face...lol
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no.its average americans inside face
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How's your cousin -- I mean, wife?
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Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested
This theory proves true in my particular experience...

As a young boy, my brother was molested repeatedly by the same person and is now gay. This became apparent in his late teens. In his early teens he was attracted to girls beyond his reach. I believe the final 'nail in the coffin' was that his first sexual experience was with a boy.
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I had a brother (he committed suicide a year ago..) who switched to being gay in his late teens as well, except he (as far as I know) didn't get molested. On the other hand my dad was really harsh on him, me too, but him even worse and it seemed to make him socially withdraw. Some girls liked him, but he was always afraid to talk to them or build relationships.

In my estimation it isn't necessarily molestation that causes it, like some curse gets put on you if you get molested, it's the crushing of a child's spirit at the beginning of their transition into adulthood (9-12) that renders them dysfunctional.

My brother was too socially dysfunctional to get a girl to like him, but I'll tell you what, Grindr fixes the "I can't get laid" situation in a jiffy, no matter how socially inept or ugly you are. Once he found Grindr there was no bringing him back.
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I am sorry to read about your brother. There are higher rates of suicide among gay-identifying people. Did he ever try Tinder or OKCupid or just going out and striking up conversation and collecting numbers? I dated girls, too, but I like guys and partner and I clicked. I know that I am lucky. I wish you all the best and I am sorry for your loss.
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Even though you caused it.
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Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested
This theory proves true in my particular experience...

As a young boy, my brother was molested repeatedly by the same person and is now gay. This became apparent in his late teens. In his early teens he was attracted to girls beyond his reach. I believe the final 'nail in the coffin' was that his first sexual experience was with a boy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69853634


I had a brother (he committed suicide a year ago..) who switched to being gay in his late teens as well, except he (as far as I know) didn't get molested. On the other hand my dad was really harsh on him, me too, but him even worse and it seemed to make him socially withdraw. Some girls liked him, but he was always afraid to talk to them or build relationships.

In my estimation it isn't necessarily molestation that causes it, like some curse gets put on you if you get molested, it's the crushing of a child's spirit at the beginning of their transition into adulthood (9-12) that renders them dysfunctional.

My brother was too socially dysfunctional to get a girl to like him, but I'll tell you what, Grindr fixes the "I can't get laid" situation in a jiffy, no matter how socially inept or ugly you are. Once he found Grindr there was no bringing him back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63340184


I am sorry to read about your brother. There are higher rates of suicide among gay-identifying people. Did he ever try Tinder or OKCupid or just going out and striking up conversation and collecting numbers? I dated girls, too, but I like guys and partner and I clicked. I know that I am lucky. I wish you all the best and I am sorry for your loss.
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Even though you caused it.
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Funny. Are you autistic?
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I was never molested. I knew I liked cock when I was in grade school.
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Also read the below article if you dare. Gross stuff.
[link to drrichswier.com]

They, the media, and certain societal elements say these people are perfectly normal and harmless.
A virus of the spirit and mind.
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Also read the below article if you dare. Gross stuff.
[link to drrichswier.com]

They, the media, and certain societal elements say these people are perfectly normal and harmless.
A virus of the spirit and mind.
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Right, and all straight people are similar, too. I can also find groups of people who happen to be straight doing obnoxious activities: Westboro Baptist protesters, riots after games (not all of whom are straight, I'm sure), Nazis, straight feminists, obese waddlers, serial rapists, etc.

You don't _have_ to be so fucking stupid. You're not correct, and that's OK. Admitting you're incorrect is the first step. LOL. Perhaps you are unable to learn new things, and you died long ago. You're now merely a machine, seemingly conscious on rote and habit. You can be saved.

That said, those people in your link/video _are_ obnoxious. In case my point wasn't obvious enough for you: we're not all like that. Not because we're insecure or self-loathing (like you appear to be), but because we simply aren't. It's a personality thing. Doesn't mean I don't like getting crazy! What's a good gay orgy without goat blood? The sad thing is that you probably think I'm serious.
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Also read the below article if you dare. Gross stuff.
[link to drrichswier.com]

They, the media, and certain societal elements say these people are perfectly normal and harmless.
A virus of the spirit and mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57245745


Right, and all straight people are similar, too. I can also find groups of people who happen to be straight doing obnoxious activities: Westboro Baptist protesters, riots after games (not all of whom are straight, I'm sure), Nazis, straight feminists, obese waddlers, serial rapists, etc.

You don't _have_ to be so fucking stupid. You're not correct, and that's OK. Admitting you're incorrect is the first step. LOL. Perhaps you are unable to learn new things, and you died long ago. You're now merely a machine, seemingly conscious on rote and habit. You can be saved.

That said, those people in your link/video _are_ obnoxious. In case my point wasn't obvious enough for you: we're not all like that. Not because we're insecure or self-loathing (like you appear to be), but because we simply aren't. It's a personality thing. Doesn't mean I don't like getting crazy! What's a good gay orgy without goat blood? The sad thing is that you probably think I'm serious.
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Look at them, dressing up and wearing makeup. The horror! I bet they're all engineers who like horses.
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This theory proves true in my particular experience...

As a young boy, my brother was molested repeatedly by the same person and is now gay. This became apparent in his late teens. In his early teens he was attracted to girls beyond his reach. I believe the final 'nail in the coffin' was that his first sexual experience was with a boy.
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I had a brother (he committed suicide a year ago..) who switched to being gay in his late teens as well, except he (as far as I know) didn't get molested. On the other hand my dad was really harsh on him, me too, but him even worse and it seemed to make him socially withdraw. Some girls liked him, but he was always afraid to talk to them or build relationships.

In my estimation it isn't necessarily molestation that causes it, like some curse gets put on you if you get molested, it's the crushing of a child's spirit at the beginning of their transition into adulthood (9-12) that renders them dysfunctional.

My brother was too socially dysfunctional to get a girl to like him, but I'll tell you what, Grindr fixes the "I can't get laid" situation in a jiffy, no matter how socially inept or ugly you are. Once he found Grindr there was no bringing him back.
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You are closest to the truth.
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Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. Gays' first sexual experience is involuntary and painful, but they ultimately enjoy the sexual release, as well as the control their attractiveness has over their male abusers. They enjoy the experiences that come after the first.

Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men. They are more attractive to their abusers, and are therefore more likely to be molested. And yes, they also inherit the desire to rape young boys, and break more boys into their gay lifestyle. All of them. This is why they lie about their past, and the true nature of homosexuality. They know that if the true nature of their sexuality were known, they would not be accepted in society.

I know to many this may sound insane. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. It is time to end the cycle of shame and abuse, and protect our boys from these sexual predators.
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not always tard
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Why, oh why is it that only the 'straight people' are the experts on gay issues? How is it that only straight people know the issues to something they have never experienced?

There are around 1500 species in nature, so far, that show homosexual tendencies.

WE LIVE IN A DIVERSE REALITY. Just look around!

STOP trying to make one example or explanation fit ALL people!

Some people that are molested by the same sex turn in that direction because of it.

Some people are gay from their first breath.

Some men like either, or.

Some men like the feeling of anal sex, but has nothing to do with loving other men. They just like the feeling of it and only a man can do what men do with their extremities. If you ever have an orgasm from prostate massage you might understand this.

Having 'gay sex' doesn't make you gay.

Having sex with a woman doesn't make you straight.

Some people just do it because it feels good.

Some do it to get ahead or get something else that they want or need.

Some do it because of rape or trauma.

Some people like both equally.

There is not just ONE reason for it all.

BEING GAY IS MORE THAN JUST SEX. IT'S A HEART ISSUE AS WELL.

Some men might get a BJ or top another guy because they are horny and just want to get off, and are NOT too insecure to get it from where ever they can...just because it feels good.

Like 50 shades of gray. It's neither white or black, but all the shades of gray in between.

I know we live in a dualistic reality, but damn, some things are just obvious if you take the bias and religion out of it. It's not just straight or gay. There is no
'one size fits all' for the reasons why we are like we are.

For the straight ones that know all of these 'gay' people that were abused as children...Obviously you just don't know enough gay people.

The law of attraction brings the 'birds of a feather' together. I suspect that the ones that have been abused and are gay now tend to flock to others that have had the same issues, making it appear that it happens ALL the time to the uneducated straight 'friend'.

Most of the gay guys I know have not been abused, never been with a woman, and the sight of a vajajay nearly makes them throw up.

So, you straight people, that have so much concern about stuff that isn't any of your business, would get much farther along discussing such issues if you STOP and listen instead of just spouting off your own opinions about experiences you have never had, and never will.

Geez, it's so obvious.
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This theory proves true in my particular experience...

As a young boy, my brother was molested repeatedly by the same person and is now gay. This became apparent in his late teens. In his early teens he was attracted to girls beyond his reach. I believe the final 'nail in the coffin' was that his first sexual experience was with a boy.
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I had a brother (he committed suicide a year ago..) who switched to being gay in his late teens as well, except he (as far as I know) didn't get molested. On the other hand my dad was really harsh on him, me too, but him even worse and it seemed to make him socially withdraw. Some girls liked him, but he was always afraid to talk to them or build relationships.

In my estimation it isn't necessarily molestation that causes it, like some curse gets put on you if you get molested, it's the crushing of a child's spirit at the beginning of their transition into adulthood (9-12) that renders them dysfunctional.

My brother was too socially dysfunctional to get a girl to like him, but I'll tell you what, Grindr fixes the "I can't get laid" situation in a jiffy, no matter how socially inept or ugly you are. Once he found Grindr there was no bringing him back.
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You are closest to the truth.
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It's probably true for many, but not for me. I have a great relationship with my dad, I never had any issue with talking to girls, my spirit was never crushed but it was encouraged, I've always received a lot of smiles and interest and attention, and I've used a lot of dating services (for men and women). There are quite a lot of ugly, horny guys on Grindr. He was probably already "predisposed" and life circumstances pushed him over the edge. Truly straight dudes don't use Grindr not only because they are socially self-policing (as we all are in our own ways), but because -- being truly straight -- it doesn't interest them. (I really need to spell this the fuck out for some of you, huh?)
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Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. Gays' first sexual experience is involuntary and painful, but they ultimately enjoy the sexual release, as well as the control their attractiveness has over their male abusers. They enjoy the experiences that come after the first.

Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men. They are more attractive to their abusers, and are therefore more likely to be molested. And yes, they also inherit the desire to rape young boys, and break more boys into their gay lifestyle. All of them. This is why they lie about their past, and the true nature of homosexuality. They know that if the true nature of their sexuality were known, they would not be accepted in society.

I know to many this may sound insane. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. It is time to end the cycle of shame and abuse, and protect our boys from these sexual predators.
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not always tard
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Why, oh why is it that only the 'straight people' are the experts on gay issues? How is it that only straight people know the issues to something they have never experienced?

There are around 1500 species in nature, so far, that show homosexual tendencies.

WE LIVE IN A DIVERSE REALITY. Just look around!

STOP trying to make one example or explanation fit ALL people!

Some people that are molested by the same sex turn in that direction because of it.

Some people are gay from their first breath.

Some men like either, or.

Some men like the feeling of anal sex, but has nothing to do with loving other men. They just like the feeling of it and only a man can do what men do with their extremities. If you ever have an orgasm from prostate massage you might understand this.

Having 'gay sex' doesn't make you gay.

Having sex with a woman doesn't make you straight.

Some people just do it because it feels good.

Some do it to get ahead or get something else that they want or need.

Some do it because of rape or trauma.

Some people like both equally.

There is not just ONE reason for it all.

BEING GAY IS MORE THAN JUST SEX. IT'S A HEART ISSUE AS WELL.

Some men might get a BJ or top another guy because they are horny and just want to get off, and are NOT too insecure to get it from where ever they can...just because it feels good.

Like 50 shades of gray. It's neither white or black, but all the shades of gray in between.

I know we live in a dualistic reality, but damn, some things are just obvious if you take the bias and religion out of it. It's not just straight or gay. There is no
'one size fits all' for the reasons why we are like we are.

For the straight ones that know all of these 'gay' people that were abused as children...Obviously you just don't know enough gay people.

The law of attraction brings the 'birds of a feather' together. I suspect that the ones that have been abused and are gay now tend to flock to others that have had the same issues, making it appear that it happens ALL the time to the uneducated straight 'friend'.

Most of the gay guys I know have not been abused, never been with a woman, and the sight of a vajajay nearly makes them throw up.

So, you straight people, that have so much concern about stuff that isn't any of your business, would get much farther along discussing such issues if you STOP and listen instead of just spouting off your own opinions about experiences you have never had, and never will.

Geez, it's so obvious.
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More logic!
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AND no one wants to talk about all the homosexual testimonies of turning to Jesus to end their homosexual proclivities, find love for the opposite sex and have families…

yt: Former Homosexual Speaks Out Part 1
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Ex Homosexual Testimony / Spiritual Warfare Freedom From Spirits Influencing Thoughts & Desires
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Jesus Christ Saved Me from 27 Years of Homosexuality
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Former Gay Man Explains Transition to Heterosexuality
Michael Glatze, pastor in Wyoming, co-founder of Young Gay America, and former gay rights advocate joins David to discuss no longer identifying as gay
[link to youtu.be]
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Correct, but there's more. If you notice the man in the first video, he's still flamboyant and "gay". That is a demonic spirit he needs to be delivered from to be completely set free. The second video has a man who has been completely delivered. The following verse explains it:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1 King James Bible

A man who "receives" another man in his body as a woman would, also receives an evil spirit which is "feminine". It is not really female but pretends to be so. Getting saved does not always result in deliverance from evil spirits. Often they must be cast out in Jesus's name. Please pray for homosexuals that they might learn the truth about Jesus Christ and be set free from the sin and bondage of sodomy and the demonic spirits attached to it.

God bless
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So every species in the animal kingdom is raped
Do some research
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Actually there has been a lot of research into this. Especially with Ducks. In which rape is extremely common.

I saw one master's or PHD thesis about research on some ducks that were specifically both homosexual+necrophilic. And the conclusion was that it was because of the rape environment in this particular species (ducks).
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I'm in a monogamous and transparent (honest) gay relationship. We're both successful, attractive, well-connected, and libertarian-leaning. We both are considered attractive and receive attention from the opposite sex. We prefer men over women. Think dolphins. Neither of us were raped or molested. We did both (independently) experience involved sex-play with kids our own age when we were younger pre-teens before experimenting in our teens. In my case, I played sex games ("doctor"/"house") with a girl in the neighborhood quite regularly when I was around seven years old (I initiated it), and then (later, same age) the same with a neighborhood boy who was slightly smaller than me (although he initiated it). I was kept away from television. Some things are natural. I'd consider myself alpha in many respects. That said, there certainly are a lot of ill-adjusted, obnoxious people in "the gay community". I don't doubt that these experiences impacted my sexuality, but it wasn't rape. His early experience with another male involved repeated oral sex with a boy in the neighborhood the same age (10 to 12).

We're both "tops", so we take turns. We've been so busy lately that we haven't had a lot of sex, just like many other practically-married couples. We do enjoy prostate stimulation, similar interests, the kind of emotional connections/bonding we have, mutual talents, not having to worry about kids (at the moment), less drama, etc. I believe I am more well-adjusted than my partner, but he is also well-adjusted (I've helped his personal growth a bit, too). We're in an inter-racial gay relationship -- the liberal holy grail -- so you can imagine how much fun it is to _not_ be a progressive.

If you want to "keep your kid from being gay", I think it depends: they might be inclined that way strongly, no matter how masculine or feminine they are; or, they could go either way (I think most males are predominantly straight, but not entirely straight) -- think of the sexual patterns of penetrator/penetrated in the ancient world -- and these sorts of people in a controlled but free and fulfilling environment (up to age twelve or so) with male and female friends can be kept in a "straight" sort of balance. Being over-bearing one way or another will either spark curiosity or drive them away, but ultimately they'll swing to what they like, for whatever reasons (e.g., think of a militant feminist household where they constantly push girl toys on male children, but the male-minded children play with the toys in non-feminine ways). Think about how you were raised and then decide if you're perfect (no one is, let your kids be themselves).

Population control. More gay people in Third World countries. More birth control and education for Third World women. We in the West lead by example.

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I'm well-liked. In my case, if this relationship ever ends, I might date women again and start a "normal" family, and I'd be perfectly content (I strongly dislike stupid chicks, though).

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Thank you for telling your story. You are exactly like the majority of my peers, part of a group most people don't even want to acknowledge exists at all, because it confuses the stereotypes and paradigms. Most of my friends are gay males who are classical liberal/libertarian, with some of them staunch -- but atheistic -- Republicans, Log Cabin Society members of the Ayn Rand/objectivist ilk.

Their "gayness" is always incidental, and is rarely spoken about because it is a complete non-issue (straight people don't talk about being straight all day, RIGHT? things just ARE). It is no different than any other feature of bedroom behavior, is not hidden but is not a part of their character as humans.

My very best friend in the world for the past thirty years is gay and in a longstanding relationship with another republican. His favorite thing in the world is discussing economics, political strategy and history. He'd rather put a bullet in his head than go shopping or do anything that isn't masculine -- he's a man, he likes all things masculine. He mocks me incessantly because I tend to favor feminine-looking and androgynous performers, musicians, actors -- he thinks it's pretty stupid. He plans to vote for Ted Cruz in the primaries.

This is something that people with no gay friends -- or no DIVERSITY in their friends -- simply do not understand because they either buy into the stereotypes or simply shut out anyone who does not share their politically correct views. Most gays are very liberal, yes, but maybe it is because they by into the dumb stereotypes, too -- there is no need it should be this way. Truth is, people come in all sorts, and have their own unique personalities, gay or straight.

None of my male gay friends have reported molestation in the sense OP writes it. None of them, and they would share this with me. HOWEVER, they all admit to sexual behavior with other boys (or even in one case,men) at a young age. For some reason it never occurs to the posters above -- including OP -- that there could be something else going on, and it's that yes, some of these gays have contact with other boys, teens or even grown males, but that they actually want it to happen and are willing participants.

I find it repulsive that any adult would do this and they should of course be prosecuted, but I am simply talking now from MY EXPERIENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, in cofidence -- as with most things there might be gray area on the part of SOME of the boys. NAMBLA is a disgusting thought, but I have a sneaking suspicion it exists as more than a gross, corrupt idea, it exists because men are hard to restrain sexually, gay or straight. Look at the repression of the Arabic world, and how male sexually finds its way into all sorts of deviance. It is what it is, and please accept that deviants cross the spectrum of male experience. Please recall that MOST molesters and rapists are STRAIGHT but nobody tries to say they cause anyone to be "straight" later on. When you switch the logic it becomes absurd. If all this were true, then subjecting boys to rape by women should make them straight. Maybe you who subscribe to the OP's ideas should consider this as a cure.

That was of course a joke.

PERHAPS young gay experiences happen because, as it is with straight boys as well, they are entering adolescence, are having the surging hormones, but there is no female there to put a stop to things. Women are usually the stopgap, but when there is nothing there to prevent experimentation, no issues like fear of pregnancy or fear of being called a "slut" as females have -- what's to stop a 12 year old boy from experimenting? Seriously, how many straight boys, if hit upon by a cougar, would say no at a time when their young bodies are confused and raging with hormones? Who would say, sorry, Mrs. Robinson? I know a straight male who lost his virginity at twelve to a grown woman. NOBODY would contend that she turned him straight, riiight? That is essentially what y'all are saying here.

So ... in other words -- yes, some of this young activity is happening -- but I think the word "rape" is what is inaccurate. Ever think some youngsters are confused, and perhaps want some of these things to happen, BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY. And young. And horny. "BECAUSE," let's please get the flow of events -- the order of causation -- correct. And their frontal lobe was not developed, just like two straight kids going at it behind the toolshed, or a twelve year old girl being suckered by a twenty year old dude.

By the way, I also want to point out that I identified a child in my extended family as being gay when he was still in diapers, at about 18 months old. He is of course gay, but twenty years ago I'd say, "damn, I think he's a gay baby." and we'd laugh, as if it were ridiculous. SO ... unless my family was abusing a baby in diapers who wasn't even cognizant nor conscious, then he was a gay damn baby.

Funny thing is studies have been done -- I can't quote them, but they exist -- where people were shown photos of babies at play and people have been able to pick the babies out from the crowd who ended up being gay as adults. That's not a joke -- I'm serious. Just research it.
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If that theory on molestation is true. What causes all the lesbians and bi-sexual females.
Sorry I find it kinda hard to believe there are that many women molesting little girls causing them to become lez.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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you people are so bothered by gays you constantly want to find a way to define it ...seriously, GLP thinks about gays more than gays think about gays ...you don't see that as a problem? sure, I get annoyed too when I'm just watching television and I get hit by some gay agenda in a commercial or maybe even the show I'm watching suddenly introduces some gay couple ...but c'mon, it's been around for decades, it isn't going to suddenly go away, there's much worse shit in the world and you should have more important things to be thinking about, right?
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Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. Gays' first sexual experience is involuntary and painful, but they ultimately enjoy the sexual release, as well as the control their attractiveness has over their male abusers. They enjoy the experiences that come after the first.

Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men. They are more attractive to their abusers, and are therefore more likely to be molested. And yes, they also inherit the desire to rape young boys, and break more boys into their gay lifestyle. All of them. This is why they lie about their past, and the true nature of homosexuality. They know that if the true nature of their sexuality were known, they would not be accepted in society.

I know to many this may sound insane. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. It is time to end the cycle of shame and abuse, and protect our boys from these sexual predators.
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Why, oh why is it that only the 'straight people' are the experts on gay issues? How is it that only straight people know the issues to something they have never experienced?

There are around 1500 species in nature, so far, that show homosexual tendencies.

WE LIVE IN A DIVERSE REALITY. Just look around!

STOP trying to make one example or explanation fit ALL people!

Some people that are molested by the same sex turn in that direction because of it.

Some people are gay from their first breath.

Some men like either, or.

Some men like the feeling of anal sex, but has nothing to do with loving other men. They just like the feeling of it and only a man can do what men do with their extremities. If you ever have an orgasm from prostate massage you might understand this.

Having 'gay sex' doesn't make you gay.

Having sex with a woman doesn't make you straight.

Some people just do it because it feels good.

Some do it to get ahead or get something else that they want or need.

Some do it because of rape or trauma.

Some people like both equally.

There is not just ONE reason for it all.

BEING GAY IS MORE THAN JUST SEX. IT'S A HEART ISSUE AS WELL.

Some men might get a BJ or top another guy because they are horny and just want to get off, and are NOT too insecure to get it from where ever they can...just because it feels good.

Like 50 shades of gray. It's neither white or black, but all the shades of gray in between.

I know we live in a dualistic reality, but damn, some things are just obvious if you take the bias and religion out of it. It's not just straight or gay. There is no
'one size fits all' for the reasons why we are like we are.

For the straight ones that know all of these 'gay' people that were abused as children...Obviously you just don't know enough gay people.

The law of attraction brings the 'birds of a feather' together. I suspect that the ones that have been abused and are gay now tend to flock to others that have had the same issues, making it appear that it happens ALL the time to the uneducated straight 'friend'.

Most of the gay guys I know have not been abused, never been with a woman, and the sight of a vajajay nearly makes them throw up.

So, you straight people, that have so much concern about stuff that isn't any of your business, would get much farther along discussing such issues if you STOP and listen instead of just spouting off your own opinions about experiences you have never had, and never will.

Geez, it's so obvious.
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More logic!
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I thought you were at the doctor's office to get your aids face treated?
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If that theory on molestation is true. What causes all the lesbians and bi-sexual females.
Sorry I find it kinda hard to believe there are that many women molesting little girls causing them to become lez.
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There are plenty of women molesting kids, both boys and girls. Many lesbians, like gay men, were abused as children.

Further, many lesbians are abused by men as they sexually mature and see other women as the only safe way to be sexual.
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Most people conform to environment. Nature vs nurture, right?

Yes, most homosexuals either:
- Grew up with a single parent
- Were abused
- Were exposed to homosexuality early on
- Have hormonal imbalances


But who cares? Homosexuality isn't some disease. If you spend your life worried about other peoples' sexual preferences you have bigger problems in your own life you need to deal with.
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AND no one wants to talk about all the homosexual testimonies of turning to Jesus to end their homosexual proclivities, find love for the opposite sex and have families…

yt: Former Homosexual Speaks Out Part 1
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Ex Homosexual Testimony / Spiritual Warfare Freedom From Spirits Influencing Thoughts & Desires
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Jesus Christ Saved Me from 27 Years of Homosexuality
[link to youtu.be]

yt: Former Gay Man Explains Transition to Heterosexuality
Michael Glatze, pastor in Wyoming, co-founder of Young Gay America, and former gay rights advocate joins David to discuss no longer identifying as gay
[link to youtu.be]
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Correct, but there's more. If you notice the man in the first video, he's still flamboyant and "gay". That is a demonic spirit he needs to be delivered from to be completely set free. The second video has a man who has been completely delivered. The following verse explains it:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1 King James Bible

A man who "receives" another man in his body as a woman would, also receives an evil spirit which is "feminine". It is not really female but pretends to be so. Getting saved does not always result in deliverance from evil spirits. Often they must be cast out in Jesus's name. Please pray for homosexuals that they might learn the truth about Jesus Christ and be set free from the sin and bondage of sodomy and the demonic spirits attached to it.

God bless
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LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

Oh, wait. You can.
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So every species in the animal kingdom is raped
Do some research
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Actually there has been a lot of research into this. Especially with Ducks. In which rape is extremely common.

I saw one master's or PHD thesis about research on some ducks that were specifically both homosexual+necrophilic. And the conclusion was that it was because of the rape environment in this particular species (ducks).
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I'm in a monogamous and transparent (honest) gay relationship. We're both successful, attractive, well-connected, and libertarian-leaning. We both are considered attractive and receive attention from the opposite sex. We prefer men over women. Think dolphins. Neither of us were raped or molested. We did both (independently) experience involved sex-play with kids our own age when we were younger pre-teens before experimenting in our teens. In my case, I played sex games ("doctor"/"house") with a girl in the neighborhood quite regularly when I was around seven years old (I initiated it), and then (later, same age) the same with a neighborhood boy who was slightly smaller than me (although he initiated it). I was kept away from television. Some things are natural. I'd consider myself alpha in many respects. That said, there certainly are a lot of ill-adjusted, obnoxious people in "the gay community". I don't doubt that these experiences impacted my sexuality, but it wasn't rape. His early experience with another male involved repeated oral sex with a boy in the neighborhood the same age (10 to 12).

We're both "tops", so we take turns. We've been so busy lately that we haven't had a lot of sex, just like many other practically-married couples. We do enjoy prostate stimulation, similar interests, the kind of emotional connections/bonding we have, mutual talents, not having to worry about kids (at the moment), less drama, etc. I believe I am more well-adjusted than my partner, but he is also well-adjusted (I've helped his personal growth a bit, too). We're in an inter-racial gay relationship -- the liberal holy grail -- so you can imagine how much fun it is to _not_ be a progressive.

If you want to "keep your kid from being gay", I think it depends: they might be inclined that way strongly, no matter how masculine or feminine they are; or, they could go either way (I think most males are predominantly straight, but not entirely straight) -- think of the sexual patterns of penetrator/penetrated in the ancient world -- and these sorts of people in a controlled but free and fulfilling environment (up to age twelve or so) with male and female friends can be kept in a "straight" sort of balance. Being over-bearing one way or another will either spark curiosity or drive them away, but ultimately they'll swing to what they like, for whatever reasons (e.g., think of a militant feminist household where they constantly push girl toys on male children, but the male-minded children play with the toys in non-feminine ways). Think about how you were raised and then decide if you're perfect (no one is, let your kids be themselves).

Population control. More gay people in Third World countries. More birth control and education for Third World women. We in the West lead by example.

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Thank you for telling your story. You are exactly like the majority of my peers, part of a group most people don't even want to acknowledge exists at all, because it confuses the stereotypes and paradigms. Most of my friends are gay males who are classical liberal/libertarian, with some of them staunch -- but atheistic -- Republicans, Log Cabin Society members of the Ayn Rand/objectivist ilk.

Their "gayness" is always incidental, and is rarely spoken about because it is a complete non-issue (straight people don't talk about being straight all day, RIGHT? things just ARE). It is no different than any other feature of bedroom behavior, is not hidden but is not a part of their character as humans.

My very best friend in the world for the past thirty years is gay and in a longstanding relationship with another republican. His favorite thing in the world is discussing economics, political strategy and history. He'd rather put a bullet in his head than go shopping or do anything that isn't masculine -- he's a man, he likes all things masculine. He mocks me incessantly because I tend to favor feminine-looking and androgynous performers, musicians, actors -- he thinks it's pretty stupid. He plans to vote for Ted Cruz in the primaries.

This is something that people with no gay friends -- or no DIVERSITY in their friends -- simply do not understand because they either buy into the stereotypes or simply shut out anyone who does not share their politically correct views. Most gays are very liberal, yes, but maybe it is because they by into the dumb stereotypes, too -- there is no need it should be this way. Truth is, people come in all sorts, and have their own unique personalities, gay or straight.

None of my male gay friends have reported molestation in the sense OP writes it. None of them, and they would share this with me. HOWEVER, they all admit to sexual behavior with other boys (or even in one case,men) at a young age. For some reason it never occurs to the posters above -- including OP -- that there could be something else going on, and it's that yes, some of these gays have contact with other boys, teens or even grown males, but that they actually want it to happen and are willing participants.

I find it repulsive that any adult would do this and they should of course be prosecuted, but I am simply talking now from MY EXPERIENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, in cofidence -- as with most things there might be gray area on the part of SOME of the boys. NAMBLA is a disgusting thought, but I have a sneaking suspicion it exists as more than a gross, corrupt idea, it exists because men are hard to restrain sexually, gay or straight. Look at the repression of the Arabic world, and how male sexually finds its way into all sorts of deviance. It is what it is, and please accept that deviants cross the spectrum of male experience. Please recall that MOST molesters and rapists are STRAIGHT but nobody tries to say they cause anyone to be "straight" later on. When you switch the logic it becomes absurd. If all this were true, then subjecting boys to rape by women should make them straight. Maybe you who subscribe to the OP's ideas should consider this as a cure.

That was of course a joke.

PERHAPS young gay experiences happen because, as it is with straight boys as well, they are entering adolescence, are having the surging hormones, but there is no female there to put a stop to things. Women are usually the stopgap, but when there is nothing there to prevent experimentation, no issues like fear of pregnancy or fear of being called a "slut" as females have -- what's to stop a 12 year old boy from experimenting? Seriously, how many straight boys, if hit upon by a cougar, would say no at a time when their young bodies are confused and raging with hormones? Who would say, sorry, Mrs. Robinson? I know a straight male who lost his virginity at twelve to a grown woman. NOBODY would contend that she turned him straight, riiight? That is essentially what y'all are saying here.

So ... in other words -- yes, some of this young activity is happening -- but I think the word "rape" is what is inaccurate. Ever think some youngsters are confused, and perhaps want some of these things to happen, BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY. And young. And horny. "BECAUSE," let's please get the flow of events -- the order of causation -- correct. And their frontal lobe was not developed, just like two straight kids going at it behind the toolshed, or a twelve year old girl being suckered by a twenty year old dude.

By the way, I also want to point out that I identified a child in my extended family as being gay when he was still in diapers, at about 18 months old. He is of course gay, but twenty years ago I'd say, "damn, I think he's a gay baby." and we'd laugh, as if it were ridiculous. SO ... unless my family was abusing a baby in diapers who wasn't even cognizant nor conscious, then he was a gay damn baby.

Funny thing is studies have been done -- I can't quote them, but they exist -- where people were shown photos of babies at play and people have been able to pick the babies out from the crowd who ended up being gay as adults. That's not a joke -- I'm serious. Just research it.
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Just bumping my post for Anonymous Coward 70651414. It took forever to write and I think it got lost back in the thread.Anonymous Coward 70651414, these silly comments you are getting are clearly from people who have never had relationships with "normal" gay people.
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I've had my buildings broken into and stuff stolen but I didn't become a thief because of it...I doubt your theory is correct.
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Yes, but did the robbery make you splooge yourself?

Just kidding, the OP is ridiculous.
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Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. Gays' first sexual experience is involuntary and painful, but they ultimately enjoy the sexual release, as well as the control their attractiveness has over their male abusers. They enjoy the experiences that come after the first.

Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men. They are more attractive to their abusers, and are therefore more likely to be molested. And yes, they also inherit the desire to rape young boys, and break more boys into their gay lifestyle. All of them. This is why they lie about their past, and the true nature of homosexuality. They know that if the true nature of their sexuality were known, they would not be accepted in society.

I know to many this may sound insane. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. It is time to end the cycle of shame and abuse, and protect our boys from these sexual predators.
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thats why those fags and dykes like adopting....
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So every species in the animal kingdom is raped
Do some research
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Actually there has been a lot of research into this. Especially with Ducks. In which rape is extremely common.

I saw one master's or PHD thesis about research on some ducks that were specifically both homosexual+necrophilic. And the conclusion was that it was because of the rape environment in this particular species (ducks).
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I'm in a monogamous and transparent (honest) gay relationship. We're both successful, attractive, well-connected, and libertarian-leaning. We both are considered attractive and receive attention from the opposite sex. We prefer men over women. Think dolphins. Neither of us were raped or molested. We did both (independently) experience involved sex-play with kids our own age when we were younger pre-teens before experimenting in our teens. In my case, I played sex games ("doctor"/"house") with a girl in the neighborhood quite regularly when I was around seven years old (I initiated it), and then (later, same age) the same with a neighborhood boy who was slightly smaller than me (although he initiated it). I was kept away from television. Some things are natural. I'd consider myself alpha in many respects. That said, there certainly are a lot of ill-adjusted, obnoxious people in "the gay community". I don't doubt that these experiences impacted my sexuality, but it wasn't rape. His early experience with another male involved repeated oral sex with a boy in the neighborhood the same age (10 to 12).

We're both "tops", so we take turns. We've been so busy lately that we haven't had a lot of sex, just like many other practically-married couples. We do enjoy prostate stimulation, similar interests, the kind of emotional connections/bonding we have, mutual talents, not having to worry about kids (at the moment), less drama, etc. I believe I am more well-adjusted than my partner, but he is also well-adjusted (I've helped his personal growth a bit, too). We're in an inter-racial gay relationship -- the liberal holy grail -- so you can imagine how much fun it is to _not_ be a progressive.

If you want to "keep your kid from being gay", I think it depends: they might be inclined that way strongly, no matter how masculine or feminine they are; or, they could go either way (I think most males are predominantly straight, but not entirely straight) -- think of the sexual patterns of penetrator/penetrated in the ancient world -- and these sorts of people in a controlled but free and fulfilling environment (up to age twelve or so) with male and female friends can be kept in a "straight" sort of balance. Being over-bearing one way or another will either spark curiosity or drive them away, but ultimately they'll swing to what they like, for whatever reasons (e.g., think of a militant feminist household where they constantly push girl toys on male children, but the male-minded children play with the toys in non-feminine ways). Think about how you were raised and then decide if you're perfect (no one is, let your kids be themselves).

Population control. More gay people in Third World countries. More birth control and education for Third World women. We in the West lead by example.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I'm well-liked. In my case, if this relationship ever ends, I might date women again and start a "normal" family, and I'd be perfectly content (I strongly dislike stupid chicks, though).

rant
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Thank you for telling your story. You are exactly like the majority of my peers, part of a group most people don't even want to acknowledge exists at all, because it confuses the stereotypes and paradigms. Most of my friends are gay males who are classical liberal/libertarian, with some of them staunch -- but atheistic -- Republicans, Log Cabin Society members of the Ayn Rand/objectivist ilk.

Their "gayness" is always incidental, and is rarely spoken about because it is a complete non-issue (straight people don't talk about being straight all day, RIGHT? things just ARE). It is no different than any other feature of bedroom behavior, is not hidden but is not a part of their character as humans.

My very best friend in the world for the past thirty years is gay and in a longstanding relationship with another republican. His favorite thing in the world is discussing economics, political strategy and history. He'd rather put a bullet in his head than go shopping or do anything that isn't masculine -- he's a man, he likes all things masculine. He mocks me incessantly because I tend to favor feminine-looking and androgynous performers, musicians, actors -- he thinks it's pretty stupid. He plans to vote for Ted Cruz in the primaries.

This is something that people with no gay friends -- or no DIVERSITY in their friends -- simply do not understand because they either buy into the stereotypes or simply shut out anyone who does not share their politically correct views. Most gays are very liberal, yes, but maybe it is because they by into the dumb stereotypes, too -- there is no need it should be this way. Truth is, people come in all sorts, and have their own unique personalities, gay or straight.

None of my male gay friends have reported molestation in the sense OP writes it. None of them, and they would share this with me. HOWEVER, they all admit to sexual behavior with other boys (or even in one case,men) at a young age. For some reason it never occurs to the posters above -- including OP -- that there could be something else going on, and it's that yes, some of these gays have contact with other boys, teens or even grown males, but that they actually want it to happen and are willing participants.

I find it repulsive that any adult would do this and they should of course be prosecuted, but I am simply talking now from MY EXPERIENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, in cofidence -- as with most things there might be gray area on the part of SOME of the boys. NAMBLA is a disgusting thought, but I have a sneaking suspicion it exists as more than a gross, corrupt idea, it exists because men are hard to restrain sexually, gay or straight. Look at the repression of the Arabic world, and how male sexually finds its way into all sorts of deviance. It is what it is, and please accept that deviants cross the spectrum of male experience. Please recall that MOST molesters and rapists are STRAIGHT but nobody tries to say they cause anyone to be "straight" later on. When you switch the logic it becomes absurd. If all this were true, then subjecting boys to rape by women should make them straight. Maybe you who subscribe to the OP's ideas should consider this as a cure.

That was of course a joke.

PERHAPS young gay experiences happen because, as it is with straight boys as well, they are entering adolescence, are having the surging hormones, but there is no female there to put a stop to things. Women are usually the stopgap, but when there is nothing there to prevent experimentation, no issues like fear of pregnancy or fear of being called a "slut" as females have -- what's to stop a 12 year old boy from experimenting? Seriously, how many straight boys, if hit upon by a cougar, would say no at a time when their young bodies are confused and raging with hormones? Who would say, sorry, Mrs. Robinson? I know a straight male who lost his virginity at twelve to a grown woman. NOBODY would contend that she turned him straight, riiight? That is essentially what y'all are saying here.

So ... in other words -- yes, some of this young activity is happening -- but I think the word "rape" is what is inaccurate. Ever think some youngsters are confused, and perhaps want some of these things to happen, BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY. And young. And horny. "BECAUSE," let's please get the flow of events -- the order of causation -- correct. And their frontal lobe was not developed, just like two straight kids going at it behind the toolshed, or a twelve year old girl being suckered by a twenty year old dude.

By the way, I also want to point out that I identified a child in my extended family as being gay when he was still in diapers, at about 18 months old. He is of course gay, but twenty years ago I'd say, "damn, I think he's a gay baby." and we'd laugh, as if it were ridiculous. SO ... unless my family was abusing a baby in diapers who wasn't even cognizant nor conscious, then he was a gay damn baby.

Funny thing is studies have been done -- I can't quote them, but they exist -- where people were shown photos of babies at play and people have been able to pick the babies out from the crowd who ended up being gay as adults. That's not a joke -- I'm serious. Just research it.
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Awesome. I really enjoyed your reply. Sir, you are a rational human being.
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Homosexuality is not genetic.

Men are not born gay, they are broken.

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Regardless of the cause, they MUST be FIXED.

Sick fuckers.

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Actually there has been a lot of research into this. Especially with Ducks. In which rape is extremely common.

I saw one master's or PHD thesis about research on some ducks that were specifically both homosexual+necrophilic. And the conclusion was that it was because of the rape environment in this particular species (ducks).
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I'm in a monogamous and transparent (honest) gay relationship. We're both successful, attractive, well-connected, and libertarian-leaning. We both are considered attractive and receive attention from the opposite sex. We prefer men over women. Think dolphins. Neither of us were raped or molested. We did both (independently) experience involved sex-play with kids our own age when we were younger pre-teens before experimenting in our teens. In my case, I played sex games ("doctor"/"house") with a girl in the neighborhood quite regularly when I was around seven years old (I initiated it), and then (later, same age) the same with a neighborhood boy who was slightly smaller than me (although he initiated it). I was kept away from television. Some things are natural. I'd consider myself alpha in many respects. That said, there certainly are a lot of ill-adjusted, obnoxious people in "the gay community". I don't doubt that these experiences impacted my sexuality, but it wasn't rape. His early experience with another male involved repeated oral sex with a boy in the neighborhood the same age (10 to 12).

We're both "tops", so we take turns. We've been so busy lately that we haven't had a lot of sex, just like many other practically-married couples. We do enjoy prostate stimulation, similar interests, the kind of emotional connections/bonding we have, mutual talents, not having to worry about kids (at the moment), less drama, etc. I believe I am more well-adjusted than my partner, but he is also well-adjusted (I've helped his personal growth a bit, too). We're in an inter-racial gay relationship -- the liberal holy grail -- so you can imagine how much fun it is to _not_ be a progressive.

If you want to "keep your kid from being gay", I think it depends: they might be inclined that way strongly, no matter how masculine or feminine they are; or, they could go either way (I think most males are predominantly straight, but not entirely straight) -- think of the sexual patterns of penetrator/penetrated in the ancient world -- and these sorts of people in a controlled but free and fulfilling environment (up to age twelve or so) with male and female friends can be kept in a "straight" sort of balance. Being over-bearing one way or another will either spark curiosity or drive them away, but ultimately they'll swing to what they like, for whatever reasons (e.g., think of a militant feminist household where they constantly push girl toys on male children, but the male-minded children play with the toys in non-feminine ways). Think about how you were raised and then decide if you're perfect (no one is, let your kids be themselves).

Population control. More gay people in Third World countries. More birth control and education for Third World women. We in the West lead by example.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I'm well-liked. In my case, if this relationship ever ends, I might date women again and start a "normal" family, and I'd be perfectly content (I strongly dislike stupid chicks, though).

rant
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Thank you for telling your story. You are exactly like the majority of my peers, part of a group most people don't even want to acknowledge exists at all, because it confuses the stereotypes and paradigms. Most of my friends are gay males who are classical liberal/libertarian, with some of them staunch -- but atheistic -- Republicans, Log Cabin Society members of the Ayn Rand/objectivist ilk.

Their "gayness" is always incidental, and is rarely spoken about because it is a complete non-issue (straight people don't talk about being straight all day, RIGHT? things just ARE). It is no different than any other feature of bedroom behavior, is not hidden but is not a part of their character as humans.

My very best friend in the world for the past thirty years is gay and in a longstanding relationship with another republican. His favorite thing in the world is discussing economics, political strategy and history. He'd rather put a bullet in his head than go shopping or do anything that isn't masculine -- he's a man, he likes all things masculine. He mocks me incessantly because I tend to favor feminine-looking and androgynous performers, musicians, actors -- he thinks it's pretty stupid. He plans to vote for Ted Cruz in the primaries.

This is something that people with no gay friends -- or no DIVERSITY in their friends -- simply do not understand because they either buy into the stereotypes or simply shut out anyone who does not share their politically correct views. Most gays are very liberal, yes, but maybe it is because they by into the dumb stereotypes, too -- there is no need it should be this way. Truth is, people come in all sorts, and have their own unique personalities, gay or straight.

None of my male gay friends have reported molestation in the sense OP writes it. None of them, and they would share this with me. HOWEVER, they all admit to sexual behavior with other boys (or even in one case,men) at a young age. For some reason it never occurs to the posters above -- including OP -- that there could be something else going on, and it's that yes, some of these gays have contact with other boys, teens or even grown males, but that they actually want it to happen and are willing participants.

I find it repulsive that any adult would do this and they should of course be prosecuted, but I am simply talking now from MY EXPERIENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, in cofidence -- as with most things there might be gray area on the part of SOME of the boys. NAMBLA is a disgusting thought, but I have a sneaking suspicion it exists as more than a gross, corrupt idea, it exists because men are hard to restrain sexually, gay or straight. Look at the repression of the Arabic world, and how male sexually finds its way into all sorts of deviance. It is what it is, and please accept that deviants cross the spectrum of male experience. Please recall that MOST molesters and rapists are STRAIGHT but nobody tries to say they cause anyone to be "straight" later on. When you switch the logic it becomes absurd. If all this were true, then subjecting boys to rape by women should make them straight. Maybe you who subscribe to the OP's ideas should consider this as a cure.

That was of course a joke.

PERHAPS young gay experiences happen because, as it is with straight boys as well, they are entering adolescence, are having the surging hormones, but there is no female there to put a stop to things. Women are usually the stopgap, but when there is nothing there to prevent experimentation, no issues like fear of pregnancy or fear of being called a "slut" as females have -- what's to stop a 12 year old boy from experimenting? Seriously, how many straight boys, if hit upon by a cougar, would say no at a time when their young bodies are confused and raging with hormones? Who would say, sorry, Mrs. Robinson? I know a straight male who lost his virginity at twelve to a grown woman. NOBODY would contend that she turned him straight, riiight? That is essentially what y'all are saying here.

So ... in other words -- yes, some of this young activity is happening -- but I think the word "rape" is what is inaccurate. Ever think some youngsters are confused, and perhaps want some of these things to happen, BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY. And young. And horny. "BECAUSE," let's please get the flow of events -- the order of causation -- correct. And their frontal lobe was not developed, just like two straight kids going at it behind the toolshed, or a twelve year old girl being suckered by a twenty year old dude.

By the way, I also want to point out that I identified a child in my extended family as being gay when he was still in diapers, at about 18 months old. He is of course gay, but twenty years ago I'd say, "damn, I think he's a gay baby." and we'd laugh, as if it were ridiculous. SO ... unless my family was abusing a baby in diapers who wasn't even cognizant nor conscious, then he was a gay damn baby.

Funny thing is studies have been done -- I can't quote them, but they exist -- where people were shown photos of babies at play and people have been able to pick the babies out from the crowd who ended up being gay as adults. That's not a joke -- I'm serious. Just research it.
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Awesome. I really enjoyed your reply. Sir, you are a rational human being.
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Thank you for the compliment, but that would be "Mrs." :)
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Homosexuality is not genetic.

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Regardless of the cause, they MUST be FIXED.

Sick fuckers.

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I'm in a monogamous and transparent (honest) gay relationship. We're both successful, attractive, well-connected, and libertarian-leaning. We both are considered attractive and receive attention from the opposite sex. We prefer men over women. Think dolphins. Neither of us were raped or molested. We did both (independently) experience involved sex-play with kids our own age when we were younger pre-teens before experimenting in our teens. In my case, I played sex games ("doctor"/"house") with a girl in the neighborhood quite regularly when I was around seven years old (I initiated it), and then (later, same age) the same with a neighborhood boy who was slightly smaller than me (although he initiated it). I was kept away from television. Some things are natural. I'd consider myself alpha in many respects. That said, there certainly are a lot of ill-adjusted, obnoxious people in "the gay community". I don't doubt that these experiences impacted my sexuality, but it wasn't rape. His early experience with another male involved repeated oral sex with a boy in the neighborhood the same age (10 to 12).

We're both "tops", so we take turns. We've been so busy lately that we haven't had a lot of sex, just like many other practically-married couples. We do enjoy prostate stimulation, similar interests, the kind of emotional connections/bonding we have, mutual talents, not having to worry about kids (at the moment), less drama, etc. I believe I am more well-adjusted than my partner, but he is also well-adjusted (I've helped his personal growth a bit, too). We're in an inter-racial gay relationship -- the liberal holy grail -- so you can imagine how much fun it is to _not_ be a progressive.

If you want to "keep your kid from being gay", I think it depends: they might be inclined that way strongly, no matter how masculine or feminine they are; or, they could go either way (I think most males are predominantly straight, but not entirely straight) -- think of the sexual patterns of penetrator/penetrated in the ancient world -- and these sorts of people in a controlled but free and fulfilling environment (up to age twelve or so) with male and female friends can be kept in a "straight" sort of balance. Being over-bearing one way or another will either spark curiosity or drive them away, but ultimately they'll swing to what they like, for whatever reasons (e.g., think of a militant feminist household where they constantly push girl toys on male children, but the male-minded children play with the toys in non-feminine ways). Think about how you were raised and then decide if you're perfect (no one is, let your kids be themselves).

Population control. More gay people in Third World countries. More birth control and education for Third World women. We in the West lead by example.

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I'm well-liked. In my case, if this relationship ever ends, I might date women again and start a "normal" family, and I'd be perfectly content (I strongly dislike stupid chicks, though).

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Thank you for telling your story. You are exactly like the majority of my peers, part of a group most people don't even want to acknowledge exists at all, because it confuses the stereotypes and paradigms. Most of my friends are gay males who are classical liberal/libertarian, with some of them staunch -- but atheistic -- Republicans, Log Cabin Society members of the Ayn Rand/objectivist ilk.

Their "gayness" is always incidental, and is rarely spoken about because it is a complete non-issue (straight people don't talk about being straight all day, RIGHT? things just ARE). It is no different than any other feature of bedroom behavior, is not hidden but is not a part of their character as humans.

My very best friend in the world for the past thirty years is gay and in a longstanding relationship with another republican. His favorite thing in the world is discussing economics, political strategy and history. He'd rather put a bullet in his head than go shopping or do anything that isn't masculine -- he's a man, he likes all things masculine. He mocks me incessantly because I tend to favor feminine-looking and androgynous performers, musicians, actors -- he thinks it's pretty stupid. He plans to vote for Ted Cruz in the primaries.

This is something that people with no gay friends -- or no DIVERSITY in their friends -- simply do not understand because they either buy into the stereotypes or simply shut out anyone who does not share their politically correct views. Most gays are very liberal, yes, but maybe it is because they by into the dumb stereotypes, too -- there is no need it should be this way. Truth is, people come in all sorts, and have their own unique personalities, gay or straight.

None of my male gay friends have reported molestation in the sense OP writes it. None of them, and they would share this with me. HOWEVER, they all admit to sexual behavior with other boys (or even in one case,men) at a young age. For some reason it never occurs to the posters above -- including OP -- that there could be something else going on, and it's that yes, some of these gays have contact with other boys, teens or even grown males, but that they actually want it to happen and are willing participants.

I find it repulsive that any adult would do this and they should of course be prosecuted, but I am simply talking now from MY EXPERIENCE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, in cofidence -- as with most things there might be gray area on the part of SOME of the boys. NAMBLA is a disgusting thought, but I have a sneaking suspicion it exists as more than a gross, corrupt idea, it exists because men are hard to restrain sexually, gay or straight. Look at the repression of the Arabic world, and how male sexually finds its way into all sorts of deviance. It is what it is, and please accept that deviants cross the spectrum of male experience. Please recall that MOST molesters and rapists are STRAIGHT but nobody tries to say they cause anyone to be "straight" later on. When you switch the logic it becomes absurd. If all this were true, then subjecting boys to rape by women should make them straight. Maybe you who subscribe to the OP's ideas should consider this as a cure.

That was of course a joke.

PERHAPS young gay experiences happen because, as it is with straight boys as well, they are entering adolescence, are having the surging hormones, but there is no female there to put a stop to things. Women are usually the stopgap, but when there is nothing there to prevent experimentation, no issues like fear of pregnancy or fear of being called a "slut" as females have -- what's to stop a 12 year old boy from experimenting? Seriously, how many straight boys, if hit upon by a cougar, would say no at a time when their young bodies are confused and raging with hormones? Who would say, sorry, Mrs. Robinson? I know a straight male who lost his virginity at twelve to a grown woman. NOBODY would contend that she turned him straight, riiight? That is essentially what y'all are saying here.

So ... in other words -- yes, some of this young activity is happening -- but I think the word "rape" is what is inaccurate. Ever think some youngsters are confused, and perhaps want some of these things to happen, BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY. And young. And horny. "BECAUSE," let's please get the flow of events -- the order of causation -- correct. And their frontal lobe was not developed, just like two straight kids going at it behind the toolshed, or a twelve year old girl being suckered by a twenty year old dude.

By the way, I also want to point out that I identified a child in my extended family as being gay when he was still in diapers, at about 18 months old. He is of course gay, but twenty years ago I'd say, "damn, I think he's a gay baby." and we'd laugh, as if it were ridiculous. SO ... unless my family was abusing a baby in diapers who wasn't even cognizant nor conscious, then he was a gay damn baby.

Funny thing is studies have been done -- I can't quote them, but they exist -- where people were shown photos of babies at play and people have been able to pick the babies out from the crowd who ended up being gay as adults. That's not a joke -- I'm serious. Just research it.
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Awesome. I really enjoyed your reply. Sir, you are a rational human being.
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Thank you for the compliment, but that would be "Mrs." :)
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I apologize, Mrs Jenner. ;) <3
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This is how butt-fuckers looks. Pretty sick.


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