DEPORTATION or AMNESTY?

Oh he can build a wall. God help you if you live on the border because he might take your shit if he wants to build

a hotel overlooking the fucking wall. Yes this is an exaggeration but seems appropriate tonight.

I noticed that if we just enforced our current Immigration laws, the problem would be cut down in big numbers!

Tell companies not to hire illegal immigrants. If you must, and don't want to let business owners act like ICE, make it a point to hire anybody with a valid SS number.

I'm with you Kimmie.

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Stuff like that is already happening.

Come visit Asheville and you will see expensive apartments and hotels built on top of or beside slums and ghettos.

South Park made a perfect presentation


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It sounds to me like businesses would be off the hook under Rand's plan. They would have no responsibility in the matter.

His plan sounds like a whole lot of nothing.

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SOLVE THAT DAMN PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Not happening with a phony fence. Some liberal gets in 4 years later and the fence has a million holes in it. got to be kidding.

A WALL IS A WALL and NOT A FENCE

His wife is Goldman Sachs, CFR Nafta open borders advocate anyway. So he isnt serious. Just lawyer double speak talk.

Fine build the wall. In the short run they both have to be patrolled. In the long run the both have to be repaired, but more repairs to the fence I suppose.

They're using a fence system in Hungary and it's working well against the very aggressive Muslim migrant horde going thru Europe now.

You'd really have to enforce that. I think it's a good idea that should go hand in hand with DEPORTATION.

fine no bilingual studies.you commit a crime you get deported for life.you support your kids.no affirmitive action(you came here willingly).no cash under the table bullshit.just for starters.americans displaced by foreign workers are subsidized by businesses that employ foreign workers.all money being sent back to foreign workers country of origin will be taxed at 10% .just for starters.

NAFTA and CAFTA took away their agricultural life- economic refugees

The Federal government gave thier families welfare so they could take jobs at super cheat rates

American refugees

This wasn't a mistake

This was official policy or it wouldn't happen.

So now that everyone in North American from Panama to Alaska are mostly removed from the land AI and robotics will be launched and you wont be needed.

Population reduction, no?

I'm all for this but, you would see a lot of landscape businesses go out of business.

Most work under the table. They don't pay taxes. the money they make is sent back to their families back home. And the business owner doesn't have to pay payroll tax. Win, win for them. And screw us taxpayers.

you can´t deport 30 million people, it´s not realistic,

that would force these people to go back, and that would crash the fascist regime in Mexico,

u.s. foreign policy does not want that, what most you folks don´t know is that u.s. corporations own Mexico for all intents and purposes,

and i can prove it!

You can deport millions - hell, most of the illegals live within a days drive from the Mexican border. Their return trip will be much better than their trip here - a free bus ride and a couple of free meals. Hiring the people necessary to deport the illegals will provide a lot of jobs for some of the 90,000,000 or so citizens who are out of the workforce, not to mention the millions of jobs that will be available once the illegals leave, and a lot of those are good jobs in the construction trades. Illegals where I live generally charge more than legal contractors, had enough bid on jobs to know this is true.

Yeah? Well those landscaping businesses should build themselves a dam to halt such a tide.

that a good thing

Border Jumping Criminal Insurgents B.J.C.I.

Deport them...

Proverbs 17:13 (NIV)

Evil will never leave the house of one who pays back evil with good.


Or...

Make the "Amnesty" process so onerous, so expensive, so difficult no one would dare.

Recompense all Legal immigrants at the expense of Border Jumping Criminal Insurgents.

Recompense all Wrongful Deaths that occurred at the hands of B.J.C.I. by Amnesty Criminals.

Recompense all Crime Victims that were injured at the hands of B.J.C.I. by Amnesty Criminals.

Recompense all Welfare Payments that were payed to B.J.C.I. by Amnesty Criminals.

With a lifetime special Tax...

And so forth...
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are you serious?

do you know how much 30 million people are?

like i said this is not an i wish thingy,

it´s a logistical operation that simply does not have a chance to get done,

all your suggestions are fine,

but they are not realistic, that is your problem,

there are too many variables involved, you would have to get 100% of the u.s. population on this,

this ain´t world war two with japanese internment camps.

those camps held maybe 100 grand of folks,

compare that to 30 million?

eventually what will be done is what the NWO wants to be done,

and they will package it in a way you will somehow accept,

like you always have for the last 100 years!

TWICE THE TAXES WHEN ILLEGAL.

I would say martial law at one point.

Make them wear an ankle bracelet until they're legal.

Only amnesty for kids that can't read or write. The others need to learn gov-morals. Welcome to earth.

A hell of a lot of landscape businesses. All my neighbors use them.

I don't. I have a Grasshopper professional mower, built in Kansas. They're fine people. Whenever I have a maintenance question, I call the company and talk to one of their two guys who tell me how to do stuff on it.

The longest journey begins with a single step. And if we tighten things up here including enforcement of existing laws, a lot of them will self-deport. Let's get started! :)

I had to vote for amnesty because you lumped any reasonable alternative in with that side.

Good luck with deportation. You wanna wreck the country, that's a quick ticket to the loss of all your freedoms. The slippery slope would abruptly end at a sheer cliff with no way to stop.

Don't believe me? Give it a shot and call me back in a few years.

And you have a misconception. We don't need camps, at least not for Mexicans or most others who nationality can be ascertained. We will quickly move them to the border or a major airport in their country, so we don't have to store them in camps here.

We don't want to store them in camps. Then we would have the UN all over our ass about the camps not being nice enough bla bla bla. Quickly, firmly and humanely move them out.

Exactly what statistics are you referring to? I saw none sited in the OP.

To compare what is being discussed in this thread to 1933 Germany is ludicrous but I will concede that those who do not heed the lessons of history will repeat them. In this case we need only to look at recent history. In a few years time parts of Europe have had such a rise in foreign occupation that the indigenous population has become the minority. There are surely lessons to be learned from their folly. In the USA rather the illegals are Hispanic or other it is a drain on our resources that the can no longer be sustained.

If a person follows the legal process to be granted residency and do not pose a threat to the population then I fully support the immigrant that has come to contribute to and become a member of the local community. Frankly, if I were to meet someone in such a journey I would be quite happy to help them in what ever way I can. If the intention is to live in a place were they expect others to conform to their beliefs, customs etc. and to pay for their expenses for them they need to go elsewhere.

I'm not even going to go into your comment regarding the American Indian. To compare their plight to what is happening now is an insult to those proud people.

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Better idea. Let's take all illegals and put them in FEMA death camps.

I have no idea what you're talking about. We would not lose a single freedom for citizens, and indeed we would gain the freedom of a more sustainable economy here.

No. They're fine people. They just wandered into someone else's country, and we'll kindly return them to their home countries.

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