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Sobriquet™ User ID: 67536071 United States 12/28/2015 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication In China, DNA samples are forcibly taken from Falun Gong practitioners who are not jailed. Quoting: Lily o' the Valley From the DNA samples obtained by breaking into homes or snatching practitioner off the steets, plus those practitioners who have been imprisoned, the Chinese Communist Party apparatus has compiled a huge DNA database, which they can match for organ harvesting in very little time. More and more in the United States, the DNA of citizens is being collected for many supposed purposed. Ancestry, traffic stops, federal employees..... makes you wonder. You got it the secret DNA profiles are in a big database and if there is a good match with a rich and well connected bingo!! You get into an accident and or disappear what is going on in CHina and other countries is starting up in the US anyone who allows their DNA to be snatched is asking for big problems especially if they eat well, dont do drugs or drink the future is really dark and this IS part of the Tribulation... This is verification of what I really did not want to even suspect here. But it makes sense. I think we are on the brink of the real Tribulation, not just the warm ups. So much of the system of total suppression, total surveillance, total control that China is testing or has implemented already, is showing up here. Those who study China can see it coming. They are all ready to plug into the global surveillance/intelligence grid, whether they will or not, who knows, but that grid is being built to deal with "terrorism". And it will include DNA signatures. You can bet on it. Truth in plain sight. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71111993 United States 12/28/2015 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication I encourage everyone to do your own research concerning brain death and organ donation. The professionals that talk to the families, educate the hospital staff and eventually save lives with organs that would otherwise be discarded, would never be so careless as to not adequately declare someone brain dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2145124 Brain death IS death. The brain has been starved of oxygen and has died. Please read this article that outlines the oxygen apnea test that is used to declare brain death. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Why would someone destroy their reputation of saving lives with organ transplantation by "stealing living people's organs"? I was an organ recovery coordinator for 5 years. I talked to the families. I kept the organs stable with artificial hormones because the brain wasn't working anymore. There is never a charge on a hospital bill for a heart or a kidney. It is ILLEGAL to sell organs. The high charges are because, well, hospital procedures are expensive. I have been elated to inform a family that their loved one can save lives after their death, instead of just embalming their organs. I have also had the privilege of seeing the names disappear from the waiting list due to generous families. If we all knew someone on the waiting list, we would be praying that a generous person would donate that which would be otherwise discarded. So burying an undesecrated human body and treating human remains with dignity are now considered "otherwise discarding" recyclable human flesh? With this mindset, how close we are to Soylent Green! Again, what would you do if you had a loved one on the waiting list for a life saving organ? Wouldn't you hope someone would be a donor? those "donors" are also "loved ones" maybe your loved one can donate organs to them Exactly. What if your adult child was in an accident and declared "brain dead." Would you be okay with them being torqued and to death for the sake of most likely so done who is very rich,very or old, or a substance abuser? I wouldn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71075701 United States 12/28/2015 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication In China, DNA samples are forcibly taken from Falun Gong practitioners who are not jailed. Quoting: Lily o' the Valley From the DNA samples obtained by breaking into homes or snatching practitioner off the steets, plus those practitioners who have been imprisoned, the Chinese Communist Party apparatus has compiled a huge DNA database, which they can match for organ harvesting in very little time. More and more in the United States, the DNA of citizens is being collected for many supposed purposed. Ancestry, traffic stops, federal employees..... makes you wonder. You got it the secret DNA profiles are in a big database and if there is a good match with a rich and well connected bingo!! You get into an accident and or disappear what is going on in CHina and other countries is starting up in the US anyone who allows their DNA to be snatched is asking for big problems especially if they eat well, dont do drugs or drink the future is really dark and this IS part of the Tribulation... This is verification of what I really did not want to even suspect here. But it makes sense. I think we are on the brink of the real Tribulation, not just the warm ups. So much of the system of total suppression, total surveillance, total control that China is testing or has implemented already, is showing up here. Those who study China can see it coming. They are all ready to plug into the global surveillance/intelligence grid, whether they will or not, who knows, but that grid is being built to deal with "terrorism". And it will include DNA signatures. You can bet on it. Yep the Tribulation is apon us in the not too distant future You know the ICD medical coding system? Well, I know the system and there is a code in there for '''execution by beheading''' CUrious how the ISIS group is taking things over and one of their major ways of execution is Beheading and even more curious is how they are also calling for ''organ harvesting''' and even more curious is how ISIS was created by dark alphabet agencies in the dark ops gov Connect the feking dots people. They will have death by beheading soon for those who don't follow the "ISIS doctrines''' and did you know that beheading is one of the cheapest ways of securing organs? yes connect the feking dots |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70073294 Poland 12/28/2015 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication The nazis won WW II Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71075701 the party is stronger today than ever before the nazis get lots of $$$$ off of this to install their NWO they will put organ harvesting into fema camps the blue prints for WW II nazi camps were used and nazi take over Nazis want their NWO 4th reich police state soon What a German hating bigot. Did you ever stop to consider, that since "History is written by the victors", the NAZI's weren't as evil as history teaches, and the the Allied Powers, where the true evil Empires of that era? Heck, Hitler was inspired, by the sheer evilness, of Anglo and Jewish, American progressives. That is where, he got a good chunk of the NAZI views on things from. This type of evil, happened in America before WW2. If anything, WW2, put a lid on it for a while, and forced it into deeper secrecy. What is with, Serpent seed races, like Anglo's, Jew's and Negroids, that constantly shift the blame of others, for their own evil deeds? Can you not, hold your own, English American or Jewish American race, accountable for the evil they routinely commit? Instead, you hate on, and seek the genocide of German's, as Cain sought to slay Abel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71120166 Belgium 12/28/2015 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication I used to be a donor, back in 80' and 90's I think health care was a little less profit driven and it made sense back then. But now it's mostly about making money and far less about saving lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29804770 Most people's heads are still stuck in those times as they've been too distracted by all the bread and circuses to pay any attention to the changing world around them. The carpet is literally being pulled from underneath them and they are completely oblivious to it. Everything is being eroded - I'm not saying things were 100% OK ever, but today there is very little integrity left at all. It seems the present day world thrives on as many people as possible giving up what integrity they have left. It makes me so very sad for the children I chose to have. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71075701 United States 12/28/2015 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication In China, DNA samples are forcibly taken from Falun Gong practitioners who are not jailed. Quoting: Lily o' the Valley From the DNA samples obtained by breaking into homes or snatching practitioner off the steets, plus those practitioners who have been imprisoned, the Chinese Communist Party apparatus has compiled a huge DNA database, which they can match for organ harvesting in very little time. More and more in the United States, the DNA of citizens is being collected for many supposed purposed. Ancestry, traffic stops, federal employees..... makes you wonder. You got it the secret DNA profiles are in a big database and if there is a good match with a rich and well connected bingo!! You get into an accident and or disappear what is going on in CHina and other countries is starting up in the US anyone who allows their DNA to be snatched is asking for big problems especially if they eat well, dont do drugs or drink the future is really dark and this IS part of the Tribulation... This is verification of what I really did not want to even suspect here. But it makes sense. I think we are on the brink of the real Tribulation, not just the warm ups. So much of the system of total suppression, total surveillance, total control that China is testing or has implemented already, is showing up here. Those who study China can see it coming. They are all ready to plug into the global surveillance/intelligence grid, whether they will or not, who knows, but that grid is being built to deal with "terrorism". And it will include DNA signatures. You can bet on it. Yep and the Chinese system of numbering is also coming if you don't have a high number in china ; you cant fly or do a lot of things Who is to say once your plugged into the global surveillance grid ; they will know your DNA and if your social numbers are not high enough who is to say they don't just come and take your organs as a '''donation''' to the state? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71073150 Australia 12/28/2015 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication I encourage everyone to do your own research concerning brain death and organ donation. The professionals that talk to the families, educate the hospital staff and eventually save lives with organs that would otherwise be discarded, would never be so careless as to not adequately declare someone brain dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2145124 Brain death IS death. The brain has been starved of oxygen and has died. Please read this article that outlines the oxygen apnea test that is used to declare brain death. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Why would someone destroy their reputation of saving lives with organ transplantation by "stealing living people's organs"? I was an organ recovery coordinator for 5 years. I talked to the families. I kept the organs stable with artificial hormones because the brain wasn't working anymore. There is never a charge on a hospital bill for a heart or a kidney. It is ILLEGAL to sell organs. The high charges are because, well, hospital procedures are expensive. I have been elated to inform a family that their loved one can save lives after their death, instead of just embalming their organs. I have also had the privilege of seeing the names disappear from the waiting list due to generous families. If we all knew someone on the waiting list, we would be praying that a generous person would donate that which would be otherwise discarded. It's illegal to sell your organs, because that would cut into any black market profits. You were an organ recovery coordinator for years? FREAky! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 12/28/2015 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication it kills me how so few people know what they are signing up for. Quoting: nli for years 71052310 i took that shit off my license many years ago. freaks the hell out of me and let me tell you me and my family will NOT now or EVER be organ donors. I did the same. My family will never be donors either. I wouldn't even want any of us to be a recipient if people are being murdered. And I bet many of them are. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 12/28/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication We should be able to sell our organs at death and have the proceeds go to family members. Fuck donating them.. I'll sell them, or nothing. Given the cost of a single heart transplant is probably 2 million dollars it won't break the bank if I get $250K for my heart, $100K for a kidney, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70663649 why only donation? Bleh. Make sure they give you free anesthesia as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71120680 United States 12/28/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication On car accidents and organ donors... [link to youtu.be (secure)] You'd be wise to watch the whole documentary, then read his books. The Technological Society and Propaganda are both excellent (and translated into English) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306052 Netherlands 12/28/2015 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication It is ILLEGAL to sell organs. The high charges are because, well, hospital procedures are expensive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2145124 Well, if I donate my organs I'd expect the hospital to donate the procedures. If not, I'd expect my family to be paid. In any case I don't buy your double standadar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55611245 United States 12/28/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication It's not playing God, it's playing Frankenstein. Never list yourself as a donor. But how can you list yourself as a NON donor in case you're dying in a hospital without any family nearby to contact? Also, just how hard to they try to contact relatives? And don't think it's safe to donate a kidney either. You need all the capacity you can get after a lifetime of use and abuse on the kidneys. Find yourself on dialysis when your 70 and they'll say you're too old for a transplant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71075701 United States 12/28/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication The nazis won WW II Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71075701 the party is stronger today than ever before the nazis get lots of $$$$ off of this to install their NWO they will put organ harvesting into fema camps the blue prints for WW II nazi camps were used and nazi take over Nazis want their NWO 4th reich police state soon What a German hating bigot. Did you ever stop to consider, that since "History is written by the victors", the NAZI's weren't as evil as history teaches, and the the Allied Powers, where the true evil Empires of that era? Heck, Hitler was inspired, by the sheer evilness, of Anglo and Jewish, American progressives. That is where, he got a good chunk of the NAZI views on things from. This type of evil, happened in America before WW2. If anything, WW2, put a lid on it for a while, and forced it into deeper secrecy. What is with, Serpent seed races, like Anglo's, Jew's and Negroids, that constantly shift the blame of others, for their own evil deeds? Can you not, hold your own, English American or Jewish American race, accountable for the evil they routinely commit? Instead, you hate on, and seek the genocide of German's, as Cain sought to slay Abel. Oh....well didn't realize all nazis german what charity organizations did they start again? WHat good did they bring to this world, again? Everyone needs a reminder now and again... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306052 Netherlands 12/28/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication My kidneys failed when I was 22, after 5 years if dialysis and 5 general anesthetic surgeries later I finally got a transplant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56717351 3 people in the same ward as me received life saving organs that day. Too bad we are all going to help according to you all on glp. I suppose I deserve it. Carry on you shiny healthy people. Beautiful, you got your donor. However, becoming a donor poses a clear risk of being medically assassinated, and that's the total opposite of the treatment you received. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70153477 United States 12/28/2015 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication Are you trying to kill organ recipients trying to survive waiting for an organ donor? Because that is all you are accomplishing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5758745 I have been contemplating this for a while but I'm reading more and more stories where hospitals are too quick to 'pull the plug' on folks. This is scary. Here is a recent case: [link to fox59.com] |
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Ravenage User ID: 70689953 United States 12/28/2015 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication I used to be registered as a donor as well, but changed my mind years ago. Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Not only because of this shit (some of which I just learned, too!) but what happens if you go into the hospital for some relatively routine, low-risk surgery, and they happen to notice your organs are perfect match for some rich ass politician with a failing heart or other big-wig with a bad liver in the next county? The surgeon might be gently encouraged to see to it that you don't survive. I mean there is a risk of death for any surgery, and every time someone goes under anesthesia they may not wake up. So if you die on the operating table, it won't be seriously investigated. They could kill off their patients with impunity, and no one would ever think it was anything more than the unfortunate reality of surgery. Could certainly never prove it was anything more. Something similar to this happened with gov Casey of PA back in the 90's. (it won't let me link the story, but a search with the words "conspiracy to get Bob Casey organs" will bring it up) Last Edited by Ravenage on 12/28/2015 05:30 PM "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. ... Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield — it begins with our minds, our wills, and our souls... Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to counter forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the South or the East, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are. I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization." ~President Donald J Trump "...sometimes, you have to be a high-riding bitch to survive. Sometimes, being a bitch is all a woman has to hang onto." ~Vera Donovan "Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man-and give some back." ~Al Swearengen "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." ~Mattis |
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Ravenage User ID: 70689953 United States 12/28/2015 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication Did you not read the OP? It isn't about "going to Hell" -- it's about torturing the artificially-paralyzed donor and not informing the donor (prior to getting his or her "donor approval") about what exactly will be done (i.e., ripping organs from his/her body without applying anaesthetics). This is about being honest to people about a procedure before getting them to sign on the dotted line. Would you permit yourself to be ripped open and "harvested" without anaesthesia? I'm guessing your answer would be "no", as would everyone else's answer. So people are not given full disclosure, and they end up agreeing to something that belongs in a Middle Ages torture chamber or an Aztec ritual. This is the issue here. Stay on topic. In AMERICA the only way that organs can be taken from a donor is with the consent of the next of kin. That is the LAW. Even if the person has a signed donor card, the next of kin must give permission. There has never been a case where the next of kin has said "I told them not to and they did it anyway". You've missed the point (in red) entirely. "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. ... Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield — it begins with our minds, our wills, and our souls... Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to counter forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the South or the East, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are. I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization." ~President Donald J Trump "...sometimes, you have to be a high-riding bitch to survive. Sometimes, being a bitch is all a woman has to hang onto." ~Vera Donovan "Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man-and give some back." ~Al Swearengen "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." ~Mattis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71107574 United Kingdom 12/28/2015 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication WOW, they've taken it this far already?! You have to actively opt out or you're automatically a donor! I assume this goes for all of the UK then? no just us for now, but wales is always the testing ground nwo central you might say. kenton knew Thanks, I assumed this went for all the UK, not just us Welsh, cheeky bastards |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61603918 United States 12/28/2015 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication It never was a joke .. Is it more real now you have mentioned it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71037298 ??? I'm not the author..... on the point though? imagine lying there not able to scream as your body is harvested.... man! more gruesome than a fuggin horror movie.... I've read of reports of this, but not so well researched, evidenced and articulated.... CP, I appreciate the information and totally agree this is wrong. What I am wondering is--isn't that a copyright violation to copy and paste the entire article? Why not paste <50% with a link? Sick, sick, liberal. Does your hubby work in the medical industry? How about we harvest your childrens organs right here and now? I bet you're pro vaccination too. Hardly! I just wonder why it's okay to paste the whole article. As far as I know it's against the GLP rules. I have always thought the practice was creepy and I would never want to live with someone else's body parts inside me. And I am totally against vaccinations! |
trueforger User ID: 70996005 United States 12/28/2015 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Organ Donors are Alive when their Organs are Harvested.. no anaesthetic, just paralysis medication Despite the fact that I have now opted out on my driver's reg card, I freaking dare them to try'n cut me up for their harvest! My poor abused body is so tough and filled with metal bits and covered with grit I would surely blunt all their edges and spark the saws. Blacksmith King of Trades I make your tool DEPLORABLE MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN VULGARIAN LOVE TRUMP'S DEPLORABLE HATE Wisconsin=Deplorable Honey Badger State "We have to re-jigger it" VULGARIAN "Tough times don't last, Tough People do." DEPLORABLE |