Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,397 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,825,838
Pageviews Today: 3,249,729Threads Today: 460Posts Today: 7,779
02:38 PM

Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing

FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]

[link to www.sianews.com]

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/11/2011 10:54 PM
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
ZENIT - The World Seen From Rome

Code: ZE06100502

Date: 2006-10-05

China's Gulags

Interview With Harry Wu of the Laogai Research Foundation

ROME, OCT. 5, 2006 (Zenit.org).- There still are concentration camps like the Soviet gulags and the Nazi "lagers" -- they are the "laogais" of China.

So says Harry Wu, director of the Laogai Research Foundation, a nonprofit organization that has been documenting the crimes and violations of human rights committed in Chinese labor camps.

Wu spent 19 years in the "laogais" for criticizing the 1956 Soviet invasion of Hungary.

According to the foundation, the "laogai" is a system of concentration camps, introduced by Mao Zedong to use prisoners as slaves.

This Oct. 28, Wu will attend a congress in Milan, Italy, organized by the Committees for Freedom. On that occasion, he will present the Italian edition of his book "Laogais: The Chinese Gulags." Wu spoke about his work with ZENIT.

Q: What were the crimes for which you were sentenced to 19 years of prison in a "laogai"?

Wu: I was studying geology at the University of Shanghai. I wanted to further my formation and not take part in the indoctrination activities of the Communist Youth League.

I allowed myself to criticize -- speaking with student friends -- the invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Being also a Catholic and of the upper middle class, I was regarded as a "counterrevolutionary of the right."

This was the official crime for which I was sentenced to 19 years of "laogai."

Q: How were you able to endure without giving in to despair?

Wu: In my book "Bitter Winds" I explained how I spent my life in the "laogais." In the text I wrote that thanks to my stubbornness, inner strength and prayer I did not give in to despair.

I saw how many friends committed suicide, how they died of hunger or were killed. I suffered torture and forced isolation; on many occasions they also deprived me of food. And all this for the crime of opinion, because I judged the Soviet invasion of Hungary as unjust.

Q: Did your being a Catholic help you or make your persecution harder?

Wu: It certainly made it harder. To be a believer was and is a crime in China, except if one takes part in the official "patriotic Church" controlled by the Party.

Q: Why have you written the book "Laogais: The Chinese Gulags"? What do you hope to achieve?

Wu: The book is a translation of my first book published in 1992 in the United States: "Laogai: The Chinese Gulag," which brought this tragic reality to the attention of the world -- a horror which still exists.

The objective is to let the world know what happened and is happening today in the "laogais."

I often repeat that the day that the word "laogai" appears in dictionaries, as is the case of the words "lager" and "gulag," I will be able to die in peace. I have succeeded to a degree. The Oxford Dictionary and the Duden Wörterbuch have added the word "laogai." I am trying to do the same with other dictionaries.

Q: What is the situation of human rights in China and what are the conditions and risks that Catholics face?

Wu: Simply tragic. An indefinite number of millions of men, women and children suffer in the "laogais," forced to work in inhuman conditions for the sole purpose of giving profits to the Chinese government and the numerous multinationals.

But it doesn't end there. There are mass executions with the consequent sale of human organs. The exploitation of children is widespread, obliged to forced labor. The different Churches and communities of believers suffer threats and reprisals. Abortions and forced sterilizations are widespread.

There is a widespread abuse of psychiatry as an instrument of political oppression. They are grave violations of human rights which constitute the reality of present-day China! Realities ignored by the media of the free world which does not want to disturb international trade.

[link to www.zenit.org]
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
US Has been preparing to turn
America into a military dictatorshipFrom the Rodney King riots to unannounced "training" exercises over American cities, the US military is being trained to turn the United States into a dictatorship.


By Frank Morales
Under the heading of "civil disturbance planning", the U.S. military is training troops and police to suppress democratic opposition in America. The master plan, Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, is code-named, "Operation Garden Plot". Originated in 1968, the "operational plan" has been updated over the last three decades, most recently in 1991. The plan was activated during the Los Angeles "riots" of 1992, and more than likely during the recent anti-WTO "Battle in Seattle."

Current U.S. military preparations for suppressing domestic civil disturbance, including the training of National Guard troops and police, are part of a long history of American "internal security" measures dating back to the first American Revolution. Generally, these measures have sought to thwart the aims of social justice movements, embodying the concept that within the civilian body politic lurks an enemy that one day the military might have to fight, or at least be ordered to fight.

Equipped with flexible "military operations in urban terrain" and "operations other than war" doctrine, lethal and "less-than-lethal" high-tech weaponry, US "armed forces" and "elite" militarized police units are being trained to eradicate "disorder", "disturbance" and "civil disobedience" in America. Further, it may very well be that police/military "civil disturbance" planning is the animating force and the overarching logic behind the incredible nationwide growth of police paramilitary units, a growth which coincidentally mirrors rising levels of police violence directed at the American people, particularly "non-white" poor and working people.

Military spokespeople, "judge advocates" (lawyers) and their congressional supporters aggressively take the position that legal obstacles to military involvement in domestic law enforcement civil disturbance operations, such as the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, have been nullified. Legislated "exceptions" and private commercialization of various aspects of U.S. military-law enforcement efforts have supposedly removed their activities from the legal reach of the "public domain". Possibly illegal, ostensible "training" scenarios like the recent "Operation Urban Warrior" no-notice "urban terrain" war games, which took place in dozens of American cities, are thinly disguised "civil disturbance suppression" exercises. Meanwhile, President Clinton recently appointed a "domestic military czar", a sort of national chief of police. You can bet that he is well versed in Garden Plot requirements involved in "homeland defense".

Ominously, many assume that the training of military and police forces to suppress "outlawed" behavior of citizens, along with the creation of extensive and sophisticated "emergency" social response networks set to spring into action in the event of "civil unrest", is prudent and acceptable in a democracy. And yet, does not this assumption beg the question as to what civil unrest is? One could argue for example, that civil disturbance is nothing less than democracy in action, a message to the powers-that-be that the people want change. In this instance "disturbing behavior" may actually be the exercising of ones' right to resist oppression. Unfortunately, the American corporate/military directorship, which has the power to enforce its' definition of "disorder", sees democracy as a threat and permanent counter-revolution as a "national security" requirement.

The elite military/corporate sponsors of Garden Plot have their reasons for civil disturbance contingency planning. Lets' call it the paranoia of the thief. Their rationale is simple: self-preservation. Fostering severe and targeted "austerity", massive inequality and unbridled greed, while shifting more and more billions to the generals and the rich, the de-regulated "entities of force" and their interlocking corporate directors know quite well what their policies are engendering, namely, a growing resistance.

Consequently, they are systematically organizing to protect their interests, their profits, and their criminal conspiracies. To this end, they are rapidly consolidating an infrastructure of repression designed to "suppress rebellion" against their "authority". Or more conveniently put, to suppress "rebellion against the authority of the United States." And so, as the Pentagon Incorporated increases its¹ imperialist violence around the world, the chickens have indeed come home to roost here in America in the form of a national security doctrine obsessed with domestic "insurgency" and the need to pre-emptively neutralize it. Its' code-name: "Garden Plot".

Recently, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth H. Bacon "acknowledged that the Air Force wrongfully started and financed a highly classified, still-secret project, known as a black program without informing Congress last year." The costs and nature of these projects "are the most classified secrets in the Pentagon."(1) Could it be that the current United States Air Force Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2 Garden Plot is one such program financed from this secret budget? We have a right to know. And following Seattle, we have the need to know.

As this and numerous other documents reveal, U.S. military training in civil disturbance "suppression", which targets the American public, is in full operation today. The formulation of legitimizing doctrine, the training in the "tactics and techniques" of "civil disturbance suppression", and the use of "non-lethal" weaponry, are ongoing, financed by tax dollars. The overall operation is called Garden Plot. And according to the bosses at the Pentagon, "US forces deployed to assist federal and local authorities during times if civil disturbanceŠwill follow use-of-force policy found in Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan-Garden Plot." (Joint Chiefs of Staff, Standing Rules of Engagement, Appendix A, 1 October 1994.)

"Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave."
-- Frederick Douglass

Rochester, New York is the former home of Frederick Douglass¹s, North Star newspaper. In 1964, it erupted in one of the first large-scale urban outbursts of the decade. Precipitated by white police violence against the black community, the July uprising lasted several days, subsiding only after the arrival of 1500 National Guardsmen. In "the fall of 1964, the FBI, at the direction of President Johnson, began to make riot control training available to local police departments, and by mid-1967 such training assistance had been extended to more than 70,000 officials and civilians."(2)

On July 29, 1967, President Johnson issued Executive Order 11365, establishing the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders. It is more commonly known as the Kerner Commission, named for it¹s chair, former Major General, and then Governor of Illinois, Otto Kerner. The creation of the commission came hot on the heels of the violence in Detroit, a conflict which left 43 dead, several hundred wounded and over 5,000 people homeless. Johnson sent troubleshooter Cyrus Vance, later Secretary of Defense, as his personal observer to Detroit. The commission issued its¹ final report, completed in less than a year, on March 1, 1968.

Although the Kerner Commission has over the years become associated with a somewhat benign, if not benevolent character, codifying the obvious, "we live in two increasingly separate America¹s" etc., the fact is that the commission itself was but one manifestation of a massive military/police counter-insurgency effort directed against US citizens, hatched in an era of emergent post-Vietnam "syndrome" coupled with elite fears of domestic insurrection.While the movement chanted for peace and revolution, rebellious, angry and destructive urban uprisings were occurring with alarming frequency, usually the result of the usual spark, police brutality, white on black crime. The so-called urban riots of 1967-1968 were the zenith, during this period, of social and class conflict. "More than 160 disorders occurred in some 128 American cities in the first nine months of 1967."(3)

The executive order establishing the commission called for an investigation of "the origins of the recent major civil disorders and the influence, if any, of organizations or individuals dedicated to the incitement or encouragement of violence."(4) The work of the commission was funded from President Johnson¹s "Emergency Fund." The executive order sought recommendations in three general areas: "short term measures to prevent riots, better measures to contain riots once they begin, and long term measures to eliminate riots in the future."(5) Their two immediate aims were "to control and repress black rioters using almost any available means", (6) and to assure white America that everything was in hand. Commission members included Charles B. Thorton, Chairman and CEO, Litton Industries, member of the Defense Industry Advisory Council to the DoD and the National Security Industrial Association, John L. Atwood, President and CEO, North American Rockwell Corporation ("Commission Advisor on Private Enterprise"), and Herbert Jenkins, Atlanta Chief of Police and President of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

During the early stages of staff recruitment, commission Deputy Executive Director Victor H. Palmieri "described the process as a war strategy"(7) and so he might given the overwhelming presence within the commission and its¹ consultants of military and police officials. One quarter of over 200 consultants listed were big-city police chiefs, like Daryl F. Gates, former chief LAPD. Numerous police organizations, including the heavily funded Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (financiers of SWAT), guided the commission¹s deliberations. No less than 30 police departments were represented on or before the commission by their chiefs or deputy chiefs.

A key player within the commission, "consultant" Anthony Downs, stated at the time that, "it would be far cheaper to repress future large-scale urban violence through police and military action than to pay for effective programs against remaining poverty." (8) As for the military, twelve generals, representing various branches of the armed services appeared before the commission or served as contractors. The commission¹s "Director of Investigations", Milan C. Miskovsky, was "on leave as assistant general counsel of the treasury, and formerly connected to the Central Intelligence Agency."(9)

The Kerner Commission¹s "study" of "civil disorder" lead directly to (civilian) recommendations regarding the role of the military in domestic affairs. The report dutifully "commends the Army for the advanced status of its training." Further, it states that "the Department of the Army should participate fully in efforts to develop nonlethal weapons and personal protective equipment appropriate for use in civil disorders." In addition, "the Army should investigate the possibility of utilizing psychological techniques to ventilate hostility and lessen tension in riot control, and incorporate feasible techniques in training the Army and National Guard units."

Under the heading, "Army Response To Civil Disorders", the commission report states that "the commitment of federal troops to aid state and local forces in controlling a disorder is an extraordinary actŠAn Army staff task group has recently examined and reviewed a wide range of topics relating to military operations to control urban disorders: command and control, logistics, training, planning, doctrine, personnel, public information, intelligence, and legal aspects." The results of the Army brass¹s study was subsequently, "made known to the National Guard and to top state and local civil and law enforcement officers in order to stimulate review at the state and local level."(10)

The Army Task Force which assisted the Kerner Commission issued its¹ own report in early 1968. In it, the Pentagon took a multi-pronged approach to solving the civil disturbance problem. "Expanding the suggestion of Cyrus Vance, Military Intelligence working with the FBI, local, county and state police forces undertook a massive domestic intelligence gathering operationŠthe Senior Officers Civil Disturbance Course was instituted at the Military Police Academy in GeorgiaŠSecurity forces ranging from Army troops to local police were trained to implement their contingency plansŠContingency plans, called planning packets, were prepared for every city in the country that had a potential for student, minority or labor unrest."(11)

In addition, "the Army Task Force that had designed this program took on a new name, the Directorate of Civil Disturbance Planning and Operations. The Army Task Force transformation into the Directorate occurred during the massive rioting that broke out in black ghettos of 19 cities after the assassination of Martin Luther King in April 1968."(12) At that time "seven army infantry brigades, totaling 21,000 troops were available for riot duty. And a hugh, sophisticated computer center kept track of all public outbursts of political dissent, thereby furnishing the first of the Army Task Force¹s prescribed remedies: intelligence."(13)

By June of 1968, the Directorate had become the Directorate of Military Support, setting up shop in the basement of the Pentagon. "Better known as the domestic war room, the Directorate had 150 officials to carry out around-the-clock monitoring of civil disorders, as well as to oversee federal troop deployments when necessary. At the cost of $2.7 million, this massive directorate also developed policy advice for the secretary of the Army on all disturbances and maintained intelligence packets on all major U.S. cities."(14)

Even though the full extent of US military intelligence activities during this period is far from generally known, "by 1968, many Justice Department personnel knew that the military was preparing to move in massively if needed to quash urban riots, and some officials feared the development of a large national military riot force. It was well known among top officials that the Department of Defense was spending far more funds than the Justice Department on civil disorder preparationsŠindicative of the growing trend at the federal level toward repression and control of the urban black rioters."(15)

By 1971, Senator Sam Ervin, later of Watergate reknown, had convened his Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights which "revealed that Military Intelligence had established an intricate surveillance system covering hundreds of thousands of American citizens. Committee staff members had seen a master plan - Garden Plot that gave an eagle eye view of the Army-National Guard-police strategy."(16) "At first, the Garden Plot exercises focused primarily on racial conflict. But beginning in 1970, the scenarios took a different twist. The joint teams, made up of cops, soldiers and spies, began practicing battle with large groups of protesters. California, under the leadership of Ronald Reagan, was among the most enthusiastic participants in Garden Plot war games."(17)

As time went on, "Garden Plot evolved into a series of annual training exercises based on contingency plans to undercut riots and demonstrations, ultimately developed for every major city in the United States. Participants in the exercises included key officials from all law enforcement agencies in the nation, as well as the National Guard, the military, and representatives of the intelligence communityŠAccording to the plan, joint teams would react to a variety of scenarios based on information gathered through political espionage and informants. The object was to quell urban unrestŠ"(18)

Unrest of a different sort took place on the evening of February 27th 1973. At that time, a group of Native Americans occupied a trading post in the village of Wounded Knee on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. By the 2nd of March the takeover had "triggered the army contingency plan for domestic disturbances. Emergency Plans White now coded as Garden Plot brought the Army into South DakotaŠThree army colonels, disguised as civilians, and reconnaissance planes assisted", while "the Justice Department used the army to conduct intelligence for civilian law enforcement around Wounded Knee."(19) Information on other instances in which Garden Plot was "triggered" over the intervening years is presently locked in Pentagon vaults.

In essence, the contemporary roots of militarized efforts to suppress domestic rebellion lie in the US Army¹s master plan, Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, Garden Plot. Since at least 1968, the military has expended millions of dollars in this effort. The plan is operative right now, most recently during and after the Los Angeles uprising of 1992. A view into details of this plan is possible by way of an examination of United States Air Force Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, Garden Plot which is the "implementing" and "supporting plan for the Department of the Army (DA) Civil Disturbance Plan - GARDEN PLOT dated 1 March 1984 (which) provides for the employment of USAF forces in civil disturbances." It is specifically drawn up "to support the Secretary of the Army, as DOD Executive Agent for civil disturbance control operations (nicknamed GARDEN PLOT), with airlift and logistical support, in assisting civil authorities in the restoration of law and order through appropriate military commanders in the 50 States, District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and US possessions and territories, or any political subdivision thereof." The plan "is effective for planning on receipt and for execution on order."(20)
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

"The long title of the plan is United States Air Force Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, Employment of USAF Forces in Civil Disturbances. The short title of this document is USAF Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2. The nickname assigned by Department of the Army is GARDEN PLOT."
[link to www.uhuh.com]

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/11/2011 10:58 PM
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

Department of Defense Directive 3025.12, Military Assistance for Civil Disturbances (MACDIS) became effective on February 4, 1994 when signed by then Defense Secretary William Perry. It states that, "the President is authorized by the Constitution and laws of the United States to suppress insurrections, rebellions, and domestic violence under various conditions and circumstances. Planning and preparedness by the Federal Government and the Department of Defense for civil disturbances are important, do to the potential severity of the consequences of such events for the Nation and the population." (24) Further, "the Secretary of the Army, as DoD Executive Agent, shall provide guidance to the other DoD Components, through DoD 3025.12-R, the DoD Civil Disturbance Plan (GARDEN PLOT), or both, in accordance with this Directive".

[link to cryptome.org]

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/11/2011 11:00 PM
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

1. New York Times, "Pentagon Misused Millions in Funds, House Panel Says", July 22,1999, pg. A-1.

2. James W. Button, Black Violence, The Political Impact of the 1960¹s Riots, Princeton University Press, 1078, pg.116.

3. Button, pg.121. Also, see, Cyrus R.Vance, Final Report of Cyrus R.Vance, Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, Concerning the Detroit Riots, July 23 Through August 2, 1967.

4. Michael Lipsky and David J. Olson, Commission Politics: The Processing of Racial Crisis in America, Transaction Books, 1971, pg.161. The Executive Order is reprinted in US Riot Commission Report, Bantam Books, 1968, pgs.534-535.

5. Lipsky and Olson, pg.163, citing pg.198 of a transcription of Lyndon B. Johnson, "Statement by the President", July 29, 1967.

6. Button, pg.107.

7. Lipsky and Olson, pg.165.

8. Anthony Downs, Opening Up the Suburbs: An Urban Strategy for America, Yale University Press, 1973, pg.176. Downs, a Chicago based commission "consultant", believed that the key to effective urban counter-insurgency was the notion of "spatial deconcentration", or the "adequate outmigration of the poor" from the cities. Downs wrote Chapters 16 and 17 of the Kerner Report which deal with "housing". He is the leading exponent of "deliberate dispersal policies" designed to "disperse the urban poor more effectively". The origins of "homelessness" (state repression) lie here.

9. Lipsky and Olson, pg.168.

10. Report of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, Washington, DC, March 1, 1968, pgs.279-281.

11. Ron Ridenhour and Arthur Lubow, "Bringing the War Home", New Times Magazine, 1975, pg.20. Also, see Ron Ridenhour, "Garden Plot and the New Action Army", CounterSpy, 1975.

12. Ridenhour and Lubow, pg.20.

13. Ridenhour and Lubow, pg.20.

14. Button, pg.133.

15. Button, pg.133.

16. Ridenhour and Lubow, pg18.

17. Donald Goldberg and Indy Badhwar, "Blueprint for Tyranny", Penthouse Magazine, August 1985, pg.72.

18. Goldberg and Badhwar, pg.72.

19. Joan M. Jensen, Army Surveillance in America, 1775-1980, Yale University Press, 1991, pgs.257-258. This excellent historical account actually does what it says, tracing American "internal security measures" right back to the "founders".

20. United States Air Force Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, Garden Plot, Headquarters, United States Air Force, June 1, 1984. (roughly 200 pages, not paginated)

21. T. Alden Williams, "The Army in Civil Disturbance: A Profound Dilemma?", pg.161, in ed. Robin Higham, Bayonets in the Streets, University of Kansas Press, 1969.

22. Federation of American Scientists, Military Analysis Network, "Garden Plot", Nov.1998.

23. US Air Force News Service, Kelly Air Force Base, Texas, "Air Force 50th Anniversary: April History", March 25, 1997, pg.2. In fact, Garden Plot may have been operative prior to and during the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. William F. Pepper, a long time associate of the King family, and attorney for the late James Earl Ray, claims that the orders to kill King, which were delivered to Special Forces operatives in Memphis, were tied to the Garden Plot operation. Pepper states that the orders to kill King "appeared to come from the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were issued under the umbrella of the anti-black terrorist operation Garden Plot which was a part of the overall U.S. Command antiriot operation CINCSTRIKE which was activated with the outbreak of any major riot." (Orders To Kill, Carroll and Graf Publishers, 1995, pg.424)

24. Department of Defense Directive 3025.12, Military Assistance for Civil Disturbances (MACDIS), February 4, 1994. ( [link to web7.whs.osd.mil]

25. Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, DoD Cooperation With Civilian Law Enforcement Officials, January 15, 1986. ( [link to www.ngb.dtic.mil] ivilianLawEnforcementOfficials.htm)

26. United States Army Field Manual 19-15, Civil Disturbances, Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington, DC, November 25, 1985.

27. United States Army Field Manual 100-19, Domestic Support Operations, Headquarters, Department of the Army, July 1, 1993.

28. Commandant, United States Marine Corps, Marine Corps Order 3000.8B, Employment of Marine Corps Resources in Civil Disturbance, July 30, 1979.

29. Interview with author.

30. And 31. Philadelphia Inquirer, "Army Uses Chester Public Housing For Training Exercises", May 18, 1999.

32. Mayor Patrick McCrory, Letter to President Clinton Protesting Army Urban Combat Exercises, Office of the Mayor, Charlotte, North Carolina, March 1997.

33. Corpus Christi Caller Times, "Army Trains Spurs Conspiracy Fears", February 16, 1999.

34. Philadelphia Inquirer, "Army Uses Chester Public Housing For Training Exercises", May 18, 1999.

35. And 36. Reuters News Service, Nando Media, "Marines Get Cold Shoulder in San Francisco, Welcomed in Oakland", 1999.

37. And 38. Austin American Statesman, "Invasion, South Texas" April 4, 1999.

39. Jacksonville, Florida Times Union, "100 Marines in Jackson, Florida, Urban Control Exercises", July 24,1998.

40. and 41. Operation Urban Warrior Homepage, www.defenselink.mil/specials/urbanwarrior/

42. Urban Warrior Advanced Warfighting Experiment, www.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil/mcwl/uw.html, see also, Marine Corps Warfighting Lab: Capable Warrior, www.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil/

43. George J. Mordica II, Analyst, Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), "It¹s a Dirty War, but Somebody has to do it". (n.d.) See also on the subject of MOUT, General Charles C. Krulak, "The Strategic Corporal: Leadership in the Three Block War", Marines Magazine, January 1999, Robert F. Hahn II and Bonnie Jezior, "Urban Warfare and the Urban Warfighter of 2025", Parameters Magazine, Summer 1999, Interview with Lt.General John Rhodes, head of US Marines Combat Development Command, on the subject of "future warfighting", Janes Defense Weekly, Vol.29-No.5, James Kitfield, untitled article dealing with "urban warfare as the inevitable wave of the future", Air Force Magazine,Vol.81-No.12, December 1998.

44. The Vieques Times, "President¹s Panel Not Satisfied with Navy¹s ŚSafety¹ Reports", Volume 129, August 1999, 153 Flamboyan Street, Vieques, Puerto Rico, 00765. www.viequestimes.com The people of Vieques, Puerto Rico have a lot of experience dealing with US military weaponry.

45. United States Office of Navy Research, Technology Transfer, Industrial Outreach Division, Naval Air Warfare Center, Training Systems Division, www.onr.navy.mil/sci_tech/industrial/wtet.htm

46. Mordica.

47. US Marine Corps X-Files, "are an evolving body of knowledge that will be refined and inserted into the Marine Corps Combat Development System when the Urban Warrior experiments are concluded." www.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil/mcwl/home/xfiles/xfiles.html See also USMC "Urban Warfare Joint Cultural Intelligence Seminar, Summary Report" 4/13/99, www.ootw.quantico.usmc.mil/cultural_seminar_urban_warfare.htm​

48. R.W.Glenn, Marching Under Darkening Skies: The American Military and the Impending Urban Operations Threat, Rand, 1998. (quotes from RAND Abstract, DOC.NO.MR- 1007-A)

49. Marine Corps Warfighting Publication 3-35.3, Military Operations in Urbanized Terrain, Department of the Navy, Headquarters, United States Marine Corps, Washington, DC, April 16,1998. "Point of contact": Major Mark Sumner DSN 278 -6228.www.doctrine.quantico.usmc.mil/mcwp/htm/mcwp3353.htm

50. Operations Other Than War, Volume III, Civil Disturbance L.A. Riots, 93-7, November 1993, Center for Army Lessons Learned, Combined Arms Command, Director: Colonel Roger K. Spickelmier, Writers: Capt. Curt Hoover, Dr. Lon R. Seglie, Contributors: the California National Guard.

51. Law Enforcement News, "LENS¹ 1991 People of the Year: The Christopher Commission", Vol. XVIII, No. 351, January 31, 1992, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, City University of New York.

52. Alex Constantine, Blood, Carnage and the Agent Provocateur: The Truth About the Los Angeles Riots and the Secret War Against L.A.¹s Minorities, The Constantine Report, Volume One, Los Angeles, 1993.

53. Santa Monica Evening Outlook, "Caught Off-Guard: A Culver City guardsman was arrested during riots", May 6, 1992, cited in Constantine.

54. Major General James D. Delk, "Military Assistance in Los Angeles", Military Review, September 1992.

55. Colonel William W. Mendel, US Army, (retired), book review of Fires and Furies, by James D. Delk, US Army Foreign Military Studies Office (FMSO), Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, 1996. See also by Mendel, "Combat in Cities: The LA Riots and Operation Rio", FMSO, July 1996, by Major Christopher M. Schnaubelt, "Lessons in Command and Control from the Los Angeles Riots", Parameters Magazine, Summer 1997, by Peter Morrison, Riot of Color: The Demographic Setting of Civil Disturbance in Los Angeles, Rand, June 1993, by William V. Wenger, "The Los Angeles Riots: A Batallion Commanders' Perspective", Infantry, Jan-Feb. 1994, by Wenger and Frederick W. Young, "The Los Angeles Riots and Tactical Intelligence", Military Intelligence, Oct-Dec.1992.

56. Mendel

57. Field Manual 100-19, Domestic Support Operations.

58. and 58. The Federation of American Scientists, "Garden Plot".

59. Mendel.

60. Delk.

61. Constantine, pg.41, citing Mike Davis, "L.A.: The Fire This Time", Covert Action Information Bulletin, Spring 1992.

62. Law Enforcement News.

63. George Kelling, "How to Run a Police Department", City Journal (Manhattan Institute), Autumn, 1995.

64. Joint Doctrine for Military Operations Other Than War, Joint Publication (JP) 3-07, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Headquarters, Department of Defense, Washington, DC, June 1999. Also, see US Marine Corps OOTW Center for Excellance, [link to www.ootw.quantico.usmc.mil]

65. Lieutenant Colonel John B. Hunt, US Army (retired), "OOTW: A Concept in Flux", Military Review, September-October 1996.

66. Hunt.

67. New York Times, Editorial, 1/23/99.

68. New York Times, pg. A21, 1/28/99.

69. Statement of Frank J. Cilluffo, Deputy Director, Global Organized Crime Project, Co-Director, Terrorism Task Force, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Terrorism, and U.S. Preparedness, to the Subcommittee on National Security, International Affairs, and Criminal Justice of the U.S. House Committee on Governmental Reform and Oversight, October 2, 1998.

70. New York Times, 1/28/99.

71. and 72. New York Times, pg. A16, 10/8/99.

73. New York Times, 1/28/99.

74. Statement of Louis J. Freeh, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, The Threat to the United States Posed by Terrorists, before the U.S. Senate Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee for the Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, and Related Agencies, February 4, 1999.

75. New York Times, 1/28/99.

76. Colonel Sean J. Berne, U.S. Army, Defending Sovereignty: Domestic Operations and Legal Precedents, Military Review, March-April 1999.

77. Thomas R. Lujan, Legal Aspects of Domestic Employment of the Army, Parameters, Autumn 1997.

78. United States Air Force, Air University, course title: The Posse Comitatus Act: Consideration of Its Contemporary Value/Appropriateness, Summer 1998. See also, Air Force Institute of Technology, A Historical Analysis of the Posse Comitatus Act and Its Implication For The Future, Scientific and Technical Information Network, Defense Technical Information Center, January 9, 1997, which states that the purpose of their analysis is "to show that the Posse Comitatus Act is an unnecessary hindrance to the modern criminal justice system."

79. U.S.Army Peacekeeping Institute, (slide) Posse Comitatus Act, 1999.

80. Richard A.Clarke, The Intelligence Threat Assessment Function and the New Threats, Low Intensity Conflict and Law Enforcement, Vol.7, No.3, Frank Cass Publishers, Winter 1999.

81. New York Times, pg.A3, 2/1/1999.

82. Dallas Morning News, 2/9/99.

83. News Release, Regional Rapid Assessment Element Stationing Plans Announced, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense, Washington DC, May 22, 1998. See also, Reserve Component Employment Study 2005, Defense Technical Information Center, July 1999, which studied "the full range of military missions from homeland defense to major theater wars (MTWs)", including the formation of a "joint reserve component virtual information operations organization." The new reserve cyberdefense unit "would consist of individuals with information technology skills who could perform their duties from dispersed locations rather than working as a single consolidated unit at a specific training center." According to Federal Computer Week, July 26, 1999, "the unit would communicate from existing reserve centers and other DOD facilities across the country that have access to the Secret Internet Protocol Routing Network."

84. Major Paul Fanning, New York Selected for Anti-Terrorist Unit, Guard Times, Vol.6, No.3, May-June 1998.

85. DoD Tiger Team, Department of Defense Plan for Integrating National Guard and Reserve Component Support for Response to Attacks Using Weapons of Mass Destruction, January 1998.

86. LTG Edward Baca, Commander, National Guard Bureau, Interview with National Guard Review, Winter 1998.

87. Paul Stone, Guard, Reserve To Take On New Role, American Forces Press Service, March 1998.

88. TRADOC, M&S Advisory Council Meeting, Joint Warfighting Center, Fort Monroe, Virginia, Army Force XXI -- New Analysis Requirements, April 27-29, 1999.

89. Center for Strategic and International Studies, Press Release, Domestic Bio, Nuclear Attacks Foreseen, 1/22/99. See also Global Organized Crime Project (www.csis.org).

90. National Defense Panel, Report to the Secretary of Defense, Transforming Defense: National Security in the 21st Century, December 1, 1997.

91. Sam Skolnik, "A New Mission for G-Men", Legal Times, November 9, 1998.

92. New York Times, 1/28/99.

93. Defense Secretary William J. Cohen, ABC-TV Nightline, October 12, 1999.

94. Charles J. Dunlap, "The Origins of the Military Coup of 2012", Parameters Magazine, Winter, 1992-93, pgs. 2-20.

95. Colonel Harry G. Summers Jr., The New World Strategy, Simon and Shuster, 1995, pg.199-200, citing Richard Kohn, The Public Interest, Spring 1994.

96. New York Times, 9/9/99, pg. A20.

97. See, An Appraisal of Technologies for Political Control, European Parliament, Directorate General for Research, Scientific and Technical Options Assessment (STOA), 6 January 1998. ( [link to cryptome.org] )

* I lived in Los angeles at the time, and it was common knowledge that timing of all the fires indicated a single team running from place to place to set them.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
I guess you can print this thread and read it when you have a few days to spare.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 07:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
anyone have vieo links of any of these camps?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 157239
United States
10/21/2006 09:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
The unoccupied(sp) youth camp in Greenville, SC. has been demolished. I was less than 2 miles from my home.

The name was "Givens youth center"

A correctional facility for youth.

It was remove to make way for a highway.
71 Pegasus

User ID: 74397
Puerto Rico
10/21/2006 09:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
Sweet, thanks OP.

Now I know where to go to break my brothers and sisters out of the clink.
Great spirits have always experienced violent opposition from mediocre minds. -A. Einstein

"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.. but I have promises to keep.. and miles to go before I sleep" ~Robert Frost
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 77641
United States
10/21/2006 10:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
id say start digging tunnels in, so when we get tossed into the place wel have already made an escape plan..

at least do it now while you have the tools ..

maybe start taking alot of pictures and posting them around the town like flyers with some cool titles on it.

we have a head start here.
they obviously have made and spent alot of time and (tax) money preparing for our company, why not cook up some dishes to bring to this party..

they are betting on the surprise card..

sheep dont know there being led to a slaughter..

but we aint sheep.

we dont have to be stupid about this.

User ID: 157290
United States
10/21/2006 10:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
Interesting. I was told about Operation Garden Plot as a kid. It had a slightly different schematic and it is indeed a government contingency plan, but one that is well engineered and mapped-out and scripted in advance.

In the scenario I was given there would be some kind of "natural disaster" (I got the impression it was global) of which "the weather would change, then the plants would die, then the animals would die, then ....us. I was led to believe some would survive. Well, it didn't sound like a sweet bedtime story to me. I was told, then, I would be part of some scenario cascading from prior events that would be taken, I think, to an underground location, although I cannot swear that "underground" really means underground, literally, but that is the feeling I got, at the time.

On another occassion, I was told about a "giant ball of fire, brighter than the sun." This I connect to whatever the catastrophe it is that I presume is on a global scale, or at least that is what I understood I was being told at the time.

In fact, I am beginning to wonder just how "natural" this event will be; I have reason to believe it might even be engineered all to bring about this global disaster.

Operation Garden Plot was the name of this plan. I believe what you have just read about in this thread is one layer in a very large onion. It is in my mind stil the gentleman who gave me this information "briefing-style." He was a middle-aged silver-haired gentleman who had a knack for just showing up suddenly out of thin air, if you know what I mean. The silver hair was ...really silvery and quite distinctive looking.

There was something else kinda odd about him...

I wonder how many others, like me, he told about this bizarre future scenario.

"I should have been French."

User ID: 151812
United States
10/21/2006 11:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
The unoccupied(sp) youth camp in Greenville, SC. has been demolished. I was less than 2 miles from my home.

The name was "Givens youth center"

A correctional facility for youth.

It was remove to make way for a highway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 157239


[link to www.archives.gov]

quote: 10990 Superseded by EO 11612
10991 Amended EO 10929 Temporary
10992 Public lands
10993 Amends Proc. 3379; EO's 10844, 10890
10994 Amended by EO 11018 Superseded by EO 11480
10995 Amended EO 10695A, 10705. Amended by EO 11084 Revoked by EO 11556
10996 Codified at Chapter 32, Subchapter B
10997 Revoked by EO 11490
10998 Revoked by EO 11490
10999 Revoked by EO 11490

[link to www.sweetliberty.org]
On February 27, 1962 Kennedy signed E.O. 11051 designating FEMA as the authorized agency to implement the above orders, and which authority can be re-designated by the original authority.

President Nixon signed E.O. 11490 combining all the above to be enacted in one fell swoop; on July 20, 1979 Carter added a few minor amendments to them; and, in June, 1994 then president Bill Clinton signed E.O. 12919, which appears to encompass all of the E.O.'s.

We have found no Executive Orders that would nullify any of the above, so it appears they are all considered to be on the books at the time of this posting.

Given there is no Constitutional authority for any president to declare a "National Emergency," we have wondered how the orchestraters of this plan expected to successfully execute the E.O.'s.