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Were the Beatles Mind Controlled Illuminati Agents and Was Paul Replaced in '66?

 
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1) Paul was never killed. You can look at the photographs for yourself. from the first pics to McCartney now it's still the same guy that started in 62.

My reasoning that he's the same person is his bass style. First off Paul played some really funky bass in some parts and it's damn near impossible to match. Second is that he played bass lefty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 157833



This is true. There's a site out there that did a comparison of Paul and "Faul" as far as facial structure, height, voice, ect., and so I did my own. It's the same guy. There was no change in Pauls. And you're right... Nobody can match that bass. That's a style all McCartney's own, it always was.



4) I don't think Dylan has much to do with anything of this topic. Although I do know he's a pretty big asshole off camera.
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Yeah, he's always been an asshole.

chuckle

I like his songs regardless though.
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Hi Rosswave!

I'll swing by later to chat.

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"Yeah, he's always been an asshole."

Yeh, one of his most endearing qualities bdance Did you happen to see the excellent DVD of his life "No Direction Home"?
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Music, is modern day prophecy, and the beast knows it
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It's hard for me to get my mind around this but then my belief system has taken some major hits the last 5 years...I've seen/heard somewhat credible evidence to these points . . .

My questions:

1. Why was it necessary to replace Paul (just a car accident or did they need a different actor)?

2. How did their music further the Elite Agenda?

3. Was John Lennon killed because he was going to reveal the truth or decided not to go along with their agenda or for some other reason?

4. Was Bob Dylan used in similar ways?

5. Am I getting seriously paranoid and this is all bunk and I can return to appreciating Beatles/Dylan music for what it appears to be on the surface?



You need to get off the meds. LOL!
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Off or on the meds?
chuckle

What I do know is that since I took the red pill 5 years ago, I'm a little more open to alternate explanations of reality . . . the rabbit hole is deep, dark and more convoluted than any of us know....
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clue


Abbey Road

Aleister Crowley


Charles Manson-the first big murder rampage that changed the thinking dramatically-carving up a pregnant woman and so on-just like the JFK, RFK, MLK, and assassins assassinations-funny how these lone killers have such effective assassins sent after them-many double agents

Lennon made too many think, look at the relatives of his assassin-like ken Lay and his family or many others-programmed youth given up to the controllers-for a price-power has a price and tptb are playing into the hands of the devil himself for the power they gain


what does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his soul--for these select mata haris lots of gold

they will choke on it
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advertisers, consumer culture, the beatles ushered in the modern consumer culture as we know it

the desire to cultivate a perfect consumer culture world with focus on the flesh as oppposed to spiritual values

the people behind the music companies are international financiers, big time corporate money, the beatles were fronting all of that . . .corporate culture, as they seemed to rail against it they promoted it more than anyone
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 150777


It's hard to argue with this (especially your Big Pharma point) considering how things have devolved in the last 40 years . . . and they have also made trillions from illegal drug sales (via the CIA) that has the addional benefit of keeping the prols sedated and under control....
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advertisers, consumer culture, the beatles ushered in the modern consumer culture as we know it

the desire to cultivate a perfect consumer culture world with focus on the flesh as oppposed to spiritual values

the people behind the music companies are international financiers, big time corporate money, the beatles were fronting all of that . . .corporate culture, as they seemed to rail against it they promoted it more than anyone



I think you give them too much credit. They are more of a symptom then the cause. I also disagree with you saying that they promoted flesh over spiritual values. While they did start out as teen pop sensations and had all this fame and money and merchandise, I consider Lennon and especially Harrison to be very spiritual people and I'm sure many of those who got into meditation, Hinduism or Buddhism because of the Beatles would argue with you there. Read the lyrics to an early Beatles tune, say "Drive My Car" and compare them to "Within You, Without You" or "Across the Universe" later in their career. The band definitely went through a profound spiritual transformation and I think that is what caused them to get burned out on all the materialism and hype by 1970.
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I would agree with this to a certain extent in the knife cuts both ways paradigm . . . unfortunately, the non-psychotropic drugs are the ones that have been primarily pushed (and seem to be dominant) to the benefit of the Elite and the degredation of the prols....
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Yeh, one of his most endearing qualities bdance Did you happen to see the excellent DVD of his life "No Direction Home"?
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Yeah, I have it recorded on video.


I thought it was really good.


But you can tell he has attitude...


rofl
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Yeh, one of his most endearing qualities bdance Did you happen to see the excellent DVD of his life "No Direction Home"?




Yeah, I have it recorded on video.


I thought it was really good.


But you can tell he has attitude...


rofl
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No doubt . . . It pissed off alot of media people that he wouldn't conform to the image they wanted to portray him as . . . and it pissed off Dylan that they kept trying . . . and some of those interview questions were unbelievably inane . . . he seems more mellow now...at least his commenting in the DVD . . .
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No doubt . . . It pissed off alot of media people that he wouldn't conform to the image they wanted to portray him as . . . and it pissed off Dylan that they kept trying . . . and some of those interview questions were unbelievably inane . . . he seems more mellow now...at least his commenting in the DVD . . .
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I loved it when they told him to suck on his sunglasses... put 'em in his mouth and look sexy.


laugh


That was just. Amazing.


He's like, "What?" And he almost started to do it, but then didn't and you can just tell he's thinking, "F*ck you guys."
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No doubt . . . It pissed off alot of media people that he wouldn't conform to the image they wanted to portray him as . . . and it pissed off Dylan that they kept trying . . . and some of those interview questions were unbelievably inane . . . he seems more mellow now...at least his commenting in the DVD . . .




I loved it when they told him to suck on his sunglasses... put 'em in his mouth and look sexy.


laugh


That was just. Amazing.


He's like, "What?" And he almost started to do it, but then didn't and you can just tell he's thinking, "F*ck you guys."
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Yeah, that was classic1rof1 and the guy that asked him with a straight face if he believed what he wrote in his songs
gaah
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As I recall most of those that objected to the Beatles were sexually repressed parents and/or religious fanatics...
I was in high school when the Beatles starting making real music, late '65 ...
whoever wrote their songs were pure musical geniuses . . . whether there was an alternative agenda contained in the lyrics and/or melodies or in how they were presented, I'm curious about ....


fanatics/repressed . . . that's what we were told isn't it, but in hindsight that's total BS. we were told that so as to cause a split between the generations which is really a great evil, viewing our parents and grandparents as repressed fanatics because the disapproved of the beatles. don't you think they were more aware than that, and knew that the beatles were up to no good, look what they ushered in, drugs, immorality, decadence of very kind, you think that people who saw this were only 'fanatics' . . . no, that is the BS they used, an advertising ploy.

there was a vast marketing campaign behind the beatles, in many ways for many reasons, it was the turning point in history, ushering in the present times.

and the Beach Boys were musically superior, there was a machine behind the beatles
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Yeah, right.The Beach Boys, who were at least equally drug addled, if not more so, were great musicians.
But because you liked their haircuts, for crying out loud, you think of them separately.
Which proves your whole fantasy about "wise people" is a crock.
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This is very interesting about the beatles and involves a connection with satanist Aleister Crowley, you must scroll down the page to see the referenced pics showing John and Paul pulling different satanic signs on an album cover.

Photo to left: Most people recognize the Satanic hand sign which John Lennon is making at the bottom right; but, few people realize that the "ok" sign which Paul McCartney is making at the bottom left is also very Satanic. The "ok" sign is actually three 6's, each of the three vertical fingers forming an individual 6. 666!


The cover of the Sergeant Pepper's album by the Beatles showed a background of, according to Ringo Starr, people "we like and admire" (Hit Parade, Oct. 1976, p.14). Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover, ". . . we were going to have photos on the wall of all our HEROES . . ." (Musician, Special Collectors Edition, - Beatles and Rolling Stones, 1988, p.12). One of the Beatle's heroes included on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's was — the infamous Satanist, Aleister Crowley! Most people, especially in 1967, did not even know who Crowley was — but the Beatles certainly did.

The Beatles apparently took Crowley's teaching very serious — Beatle John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles" was — Crowley's infamous "do what thou wilt":

"The whole Beatle idea was to do what you want, right? To take your own responsibility, do what you want and try not to harm other people, right? DO WHAT THOU WILST, as long as it doesn't hurt somebody. . ." ("The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon and Yoko Ono", by David Sheff and G. Barry Golson, p. 61)

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
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This is very interesting about the beatles and involves a connection with satanist Aleister Crowley, you must scroll down the page to see the referenced pics showing John and Paul pulling different satanic signs on an album cover.

Photo to left: Most people recognize the Satanic hand sign which John Lennon is making at the bottom right; but, few people realize that the "ok" sign which Paul McCartney is making at the bottom left is also very Satanic. The "ok" sign is actually three 6's, each of the three vertical fingers forming an individual 6. 666!


The cover of the Sergeant Pepper's album by the Beatles showed a background of, according to Ringo Starr, people "we like and admire" (Hit Parade, Oct. 1976, p.14). Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover, ". . . we were going to have photos on the wall of all our HEROES . . ." (Musician, Special Collectors Edition, - Beatles and Rolling Stones, 1988, p.12). One of the Beatle's heroes included on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's was — the infamous Satanist, Aleister Crowley! Most people, especially in 1967, did not even know who Crowley was — but the Beatles certainly did.

The Beatles apparently took Crowley's teaching very serious — Beatle John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles" was — Crowley's infamous "do what thou wilt":

"The whole Beatle idea was to do what you want, right? To take your own responsibility, do what you want and try not to harm other people, right? DO WHAT THOU WILST, as long as it doesn't hurt somebody. . ." ("The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon and Yoko Ono", by David Sheff and G. Barry Golson, p. 61)

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
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I've seen this site....it's a bit too heavily Christian for me to believe it's fully accurate . . . not discounting it, just feel like there's an agenda being pushed....
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It's my understanding that they did come under the "spell" of mind control
after their "gig" in Tibet with the gurus. For those who don't know any better, once you open your mind to TM and other such techniques you open yourself to a host of other mind-expanding influences, most of them quite nasty. Drugs will condition the mind in the same way (ie: Manson).

I don't know if Paul was "replaced", but I do think he remains an agent of change for the global elite, particularly due to his preaching about meat-eating. This is very high on the list of TPTB and in case you haven't noticed, just read any celebrity interview. About 75% will mention vegetarianism, veganism, abortion, gun control... Yada yada yada.

It makes sense that John's death was a set up, as John Hinckley's family were
associated with the power structure in America and had been under psychiatric care before attempting to shoot Reagan. TPTB wanted Ronnie dead. This is one more reason to suspect that G.W.Bush will prevail until the NWO crowd is through with him.

This includes his father, BTW, a longtime servant of the 13 families that rule the world. I believe Bush may be assassinated before his second term is up and it won't have anything to do with Bush haters, although that will certainly provide a good motive for the patsy who finds the gun in his hands.

Like JFK before him, President Bush is near the end of his usefulness and also like 1963, Bush Sr. will be involved in bringing him down. These folks are really big on mind control and human sacrifice.

Other famous mind control stooges include Barbara Mandrell, Shirley MacLaine,Warren Beatty and Bill Clinton. Mind control adepts include Cheney, Gerald Ford, Dick Thornburgh (former Atty General)... the list is endless on both sides of the political aisle.

High profile victims of mind control are chosen for their ability to short cut airport security and other hinderances to espionage, sending coded messages (in person) and even assassinations.

As FDR once stated "In the world of politics there is no such thing as a coincidence. The level of politicians we must choose from is cheapened by the number that are blackmailed for their sexual proclivities, arrest records, financial peccadillos etc. Once they agree to "serve" they are used for even uglier activity than that which they were blackmailed for.
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And what about The Rolling Stones?
Heroin chic with Keith, Goat's Head Soup, Altamont,Sir Michael Jagger?
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This has been an interesting read.
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And what about The Rolling Stones?
Heroin chic with Keith, Goat's Head Soup, Altamont,Sir Michael Jagger?
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Anyone in the arts I imagine that has the potential to influence the masses, gets tagged....
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Rosswave, I'm getting really worried about you. Maybe you need a vacation from GLP.
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Rosswave, I'm getting really worried about you. Maybe you need a vacation from GLP.
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You mean get an actual life? ahhh

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Laugh, You Bastards, Laugh.

First Jimi
Then Jim
Then Mama Cass
Then Tiny Tim
Then Elvis

Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jim Croce
The Big Bopper

The list just goes on..

And Ringo's name isn't EVEN RINGO!!!
It's Richard.

The rabbit hole just goes deeper!!!


[Actually, Paul was replaced with Pete Best after years of Plastic Surgery].
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Laugh, You Bastards, Laugh.

First Jimi
Then Jim
Then Mama Cass
Then Tiny Tim
Then Elvis

Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jim Croce
The Big Bopper

The list just goes on..

And Ringo's name isn't EVEN RINGO!!!
It's Richard.

The rabbit hole just goes deeper!!!


[Actually, Paul was replaced with Pete Best after years of Plastic Surgery].
 Quoting: Geoff Whencka 6122


Morrison is a very interesting case . . . a brilliant poet and singer who was unique at the time in considering and singing about the dark side . . . . his father was extremely high up in the navy . . . I don't doubt TPTB tried to use him and were ultimately responsible for his death . . . perhaps he started to become aware of the depth and darkness of the rabbit hole? Anyone have any info Jim in this respect?
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OK OLD DUDES...the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Beach Boys all sucked.
and they continue to suck.

Wings sucked too.

And I never had much use for Nirvana.

I must be truly evil because I don't follow popular culture too much. Or even any of the myraid flavours of the subcultures.

I do my own thing...and I don't need big pharma or the local drug dealer to help me.

but this is a very interesting thread. I know dick about the Beatles - except that thier music is terrible.
The real work of men was hunting meat. The invention of agriculture was a giant step in the wrong direction, leading to serfdom, cities, and empire. From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information.- Ed Abbey
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"Come Together" is one of the greatest songs ever
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"Come Together" is one of the greatest songs ever
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"Tomorrow Never Knows" gets my vote
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OK OLD DUDES...the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Beach Boys all sucked.
and they continue to suck.

Wings sucked too.

And I never had much use for Nirvana.

I must be truly evil because I don't follow popular culture too much. Or even any of the myraid flavours of the subcultures.

I do my own thing...and I don't need big pharma or the local drug dealer to help me.

but this is a very interesting thread. I know dick about the Beatles - except that thier music is terrible.
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You're not evil..you're just stupid.
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I seriously believe that small amounts of LSD were added to the water supply in the mid-sixties. Probably mixed in with the fluoridation. Everybody started acting crazy around 1965, even though only a small percentage were actually using pot or acid. Just look at the fashions and interior decorating styles back then. It wasn't just the music that was influencing people.

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