As a non-believer in heaven or hell, it's difficult to accept the evil won't be punished

Hell as it has been taught is bullshit.


But there is no getting away with anything.

People dont weep and grind their teeth cause they are all happy n stuff.

There is a price to pay for everything..good or bad..that you have ever done.

Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell.

You get comfort in the discomfort of others?

That's pretty messed up tbh.

It takes a real dumb one not to believe in punishment, heaven or hell

Look at the nature of humans, we punish eachother also. We take liking and image after our creator.

Even when you take intelligence away and observe raw nature, there is punishment for stupid animals who do things out of order

That just proves man created god in his own image.

Man demads payback and justice and torture and sadistic cruelties.

So they put this same lust for torture and death onto god.

When all along jesus said forgive your enemies and do good to them.

Mankind sayd fuck our enemies..lets kill em.

They like the idea of a god who is just as evil and obsessed with revenge and hate as they are.

No i think it proves the above/below kind of. We are Gods image and so we mimick what is in us, subconsiously we implement systems and put our own laws as to limit unwanted behavior. We just mimick what is God but we do it without God like the true morons we are lol.

Btw as a well studied man in religion and scripture last thing i focus on is heaven/hell. Its usually new comers in faith or atheists who push this. Look at OP right?

To grasp overall prespective here as direct result in punishment we experience on earth is that if we do stuff against Gods law we carry that around with us for life, like a burden.

It halts our experience of earth in a sense we experience less joy for the constant pressure of the sin committed. It kills our holiness and divinity. We stop experiencing Earth for the paradise it is.

Sure we have computers and all to keep our minds busy but put it off, it is in reality just a black screen, nothingness. Perfect irony once again

It takes an EXTREMELY dumb one to think that finite wrong doings in this age will result in INFINITE punishment in the next age/ages.

there is no evil and no wrong doings until you decide what evil and wrong is.

And why is that?

God makes sure he constantly reminds every non believer thru out his/her life. Sends angels to your door and in your life.

You are without excuse. I think punishment/hell is extreme but since a person does not choose to do what is right and flat out denies his/her true being seperation of God is a normal, healthy thought out consequence.

Would you like to be with someone who hates you? Eh, no

We are all born aware of this. Youre making a lazy excuse for yourself and others.

This world simply derails us all, way of the world is sinful and entraps. If you have lost track of what is right and what is wrong thats another story. But we all have sinned, all of us did wickedness. Its the way of the world. Luckily we have chances to make straight what is bended once we choose to. God is indeed very good and loves is all very much.

Thanks for that Abdul.
So raping German women is only wrong if you think it is..? that must be a comfortable thought.
However,if reincarnation is taken into account you get to recompense for every shitty little thing you've ever done.
Which is why people are so resistant to it.
"You mean I have to take responsibilty for everything I do? Oh no!"
Oh yes.

I also do not believe in any heaven or hell. After two real deaths in the hospital I have it clearly and know for certain that there is no punishment upon death for our crimes in this incarnation. But the price for our willful choices will be paid. We ourselves make the choices and suffer the consequences...in our future lives.

Like it or not, some folks have shitty and pitiful lives from the word go. "Why me?" they often ask. The answerer is that they are in the reaping part of that reap what you sew statement.

Often your life is good and bang you are struck down on a street corner or find out you are dying of cancer. Overnight your happiness is turned to heartbreak and despair. It is all part of the great wheel of "getting what you deserve".

So when you see someone in a wheel chair or paralyzed or in a burn unit...it may very well be just what they deserved for some heinous crime in a past lifetimes.

Many will be outraged at that statement. You may think it cruel and evil to say such terrible things about some poor retched soul on the way to an early grave.

Ask yourself this...if I had the man in front of me right now who raped several children and tortured them what would you do to punish them? When you see the ISIS guys cutting off the heads of innocent men women and children you, and I, call for punishment and blood for blood. But they get away with it.

There are millions of people being starved to death, burned alive, raped, and killed without mercy. The men who commit these crimes will face a judgment very much akin to what they passed out. The ones that die so horribly are perhaps cleaning the slate and may see a future life of peace and happiness.

We need to know that there are consequences for what we do to others. We may not see the satisfaction in our lives but it is a dead sir that no one slides by. Sooner or later we all get what is coming to us...good or bad.

We have millions of years to experience thousands of turns in the physical world. As animals and all forms of life in many places in the great universe. I like to think anyone who tortures or hurts animals does return over and over again to be slaughtered and abused. Living the life of a chicken in horrible conditions and a heartless death is a just reward for cruelty.

It has nothing to do with any god or any religion. Those come and go just like the clothes we wear. It is the eternal adventure of existence and the blind balance of fate and justice.

Typical christian who doesn't have a clue about what the scriptures say.

Continue to believe in the lies of the traditions of men and your studies from cemetery school and see just where that gets you in the end.

I'll give you a clue.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT YOU!.

Contrary to what you believe you are NOT better than your fellow man.

Christians think that somehow they were a bit smarter than their fellow man to 'accept the Lord'.

Somehow someway YOU figured it out all by yourself right?

All those that think like you are in for one rude awakening and you can take that to the great white judgement throne of God.

Well it would have been nice if i had a clue what the heck you are talking about. You just judge and make assumptions about me.

First of all i never needed religion to come to this conclusions.

Second of all i am not continueing a discussion with an ignorant dumbass like you.

Yes i figured this out by myself, even more extreme i knew it since birth

No i am not special, likely i knew this to beware me of making the same mistakes twice. Like a blueprint on my heart. I still screwed up though multiple times.

You just run away from yourself becauae you are scared. You stuff your ears up because you refuse to listen. And you dare not use those eyes of yours to see actual reality.

The ONLY difference between the christians and the old inquisitors...is the christians let their god of hate and sadistic revenge carry out their sick twisted fantasies of torture on their behalf instead of doing it themselves.

But they are just as full of smug hate and glee as they sentence you to the flames as the inquisitors of old were.

The pagan greeks knew t his well..as follows..

Polybius writes: "Since the multitude is ever fickle there is no other way to keep them in order but by fear of the invisible world; on which account our ancestors seem to me to have acted judiciously, when they contrived to bring into the popular belief these notions of the gods and of the infernal regions."

Seneca says: "Those things which make the infernal regions terrible, the darkness, the prison, the river of flaming fire, the judgment seat, etc., are all a fable."

Livy declares that Numa invented the doctrine, "a most efficacious means of governing an ignorant and barbarous populace."

Strabo writes: "The multitude are restrained from vice by the punishments the gods are said to inflict upon offenders, for it is impossible to govern the crowd of women and all the common rabble by philosophical reasoning: these things the legislators used as scarecrows to terrify the childish multitude."

Well if you want actual truth do some soul searching and look for God yourself. Taking other peoples word to heart is the dumbest you can do.

Your shit just flies straight by me. I, and neither you have anything to say on spiritual matters. You can only find out yourself. But screaming in your within God is not real he is evil! Will most likely shut you up inside anyway.

Thats fine, just study science and keep yourself busy with shit that interests you be the best you can be. Though you keep youself awfuly busy discrediting God. So you can go fuck yourself, and cry about it the rest of your life like a true dumbass.

The only 'dumb ass' I see here is you.

Nothing but a stupid arrogant know it all.

This is how I view you and your stupid babblings.





Oh and don't bother responding back because I sure won't.

I dont care, really. I dont. I am just voicing my opinion so are you. So go cry about it.

So dont reply to my posts in the first place. You have the urge to prove me wrong youre the one with a problem not me.

Most people who find the truth also find/reconnect with GOD shortly thereafter. Yeah you can be religious before but there would be some gap in your truth seeking with religious beliefs that are church driven.

You live in satan's kingdom which is evil because he's evil. You don't believe in him but he sure believes in you, rather your ability to provide your spirit and use your flesh body as a host for fallen angels. GOD believes in you more it's just that you've become disconnected from HIM so it makes it harder for HIM to guide you.

Remember the spirit lives forever and the flesh is temporary and no one get's away with anything (good or bad). Evil is here because they don't have anywhere else to go. You don't want to be around in the flesh when your belief in heaven and hell is tested...trust me on that.

So seek the truth in all things, restore your connection with GOD, and walk in the spirit. I'm not ordering you to do that (hahaha) it just seems you need the answers to the "problems" with the world and this is how you do it.

Such a typical christian.

Hate filled and insulti g and smug and arrogant.

Yes.

You would have made a fantastic inquisitor.

I dont get you guys..seriously.

I post this ztuff..and by way of trying to debunk it you stupidly and ignorantly prove it right over and over again.

And yes...i like to dicredit hell..and it seems that hell IS god to christians.

its not complex

there is always balance

and Love always wins the day...forever

When you see that some leaders destroy the lives of thousands or millions of other people, it's hard to accept that they don't pay in some way. However, I can't think of a fitting punishment short of a burning hell. Allowing them to die into nothingness isn't adequate. I can't conceive that most people would deserve to go to such a place.

Youre an aussie troll. I dont have respect for unbelievers

Feel my arrogance! Go, fuck, yourself! Enjoy it.

Unrepentant evil will be punished OP, take it to the bank.

I believe Jesus talked a lot about hell. I guess it's a question of who you believe. I believe Jesus. Jesus would not lie. I truly believe that. I believe God sorts it all out in the end. I have also read in the bible that after all are resurrected that God destroys all souls that are unbelievers and wipes their memory of them from us. So there is not eternal torment.

Evil isn't a human trait its programmed into us like one would train a pitbull to being a killing machine. This was result of our ancient ancestors unwillingy giving in the negative polarity, the "Dark side" by enteties they called gods. These beings, wether you see then as Aliens or Demons, have lost universal morality and have commited to the most insidous acts to those thy deem inferior or refuse to be on their level. These Archonic parasites want every one to submit into the "Dark side", that is how they survive, feeding on souls tainted with negative energy. Only the Universe/God can do away with these abaminations as unlike humans cannot be reasoned with.

It is meant to be this way, whether you like it or not. Like most, you are not aware of the bigger picture.