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Are Manhattan New York New Yorker Values Not Obvious?

 
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Big government leftist, progressive, pro-choice, Democrat?
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.

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He makes a very honest statement here... from 17 years ago.

If this is all the opposition has on Trump, he's going to steamroll to victory -- especially in the general election.
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Whoa. Just wait a moment there . . .

New York City "values" are a vast array of items; not just the few measly things you mention.

We New Yorkers are the #1 business people in the world. We make business run.

We provide super-outstanding value for the work we do and the service we provide is so terrific, nowhere else in the world even comes close!
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Hah! Two years ago, Cuomo himself denounced conservatives as “right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay.”

“Extreme conservatives,” said the governor, “have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

De Blasio was quick to say amen: “I agree with Gov. Cuomo’s remarks,” he said, adding that anyone who is pro-life “does not represent the views of the people of New York.”

That all sounds pretty much like what Ted Cruz was saying about “New York values” being at odds with conservative ones.

And declaring that people who think a certain way “have no place in the state of New York” sure sounds like rank “demonizing” to us. Not to mention that it goes way, way beyond anything Ted Cruz had to say.


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Is Manhattan not as reliably and consistently leftist liberal progressive Democrat as any place in America?

Of course there are some conservatives there too...

Of course...
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Hah! Two years ago, Cuomo himself denounced conservatives as “right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay.”

“Extreme conservatives,” said the governor, “have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

De Blasio was quick to say amen: “I agree with Gov. Cuomo’s remarks,” he said, adding that anyone who is pro-life “does not represent the views of the people of New York.”

That all sounds pretty much like what Ted Cruz was saying about “New York values” being at odds with conservative ones.

And declaring that people who think a certain way “have no place in the state of New York” sure sounds like rank “demonizing” to us. Not to mention that it goes way, way beyond anything Ted Cruz had to say.


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he wasn't talking to cuomo,he was talking to trump

don't lump me in with thoese assholes


it'd be like me saying "american values" and referring to something Obama said


you're as dumb as cruz
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Does NYC generally despise conservatives?
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Hah! Two years ago, Cuomo himself denounced conservatives as “right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay.”

“Extreme conservatives,” said the governor, “have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

De Blasio was quick to say amen: “I agree with Gov. Cuomo’s remarks,” he said, adding that anyone who is pro-life “does not represent the views of the people of New York.”

That all sounds pretty much like what Ted Cruz was saying about “New York values” being at odds with conservative ones.

And declaring that people who think a certain way “have no place in the state of New York” sure sounds like rank “demonizing” to us. Not to mention that it goes way, way beyond anything Ted Cruz had to say.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71249402
he wasn't talking to cuomo,he was talking to trump

don't lump me in with thoese assholes


it'd be like me saying "american values" and referring to something Obama said


you're as dumb as cruz
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You are so smart...
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Hah! Two years ago, Cuomo himself denounced conservatives as “right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay.”

“Extreme conservatives,” said the governor, “have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

De Blasio was quick to say amen: “I agree with Gov. Cuomo’s remarks,” he said, adding that anyone who is pro-life “does not represent the views of the people of New York.”

That all sounds pretty much like what Ted Cruz was saying about “New York values” being at odds with conservative ones.

And declaring that people who think a certain way “have no place in the state of New York” sure sounds like rank “demonizing” to us. Not to mention that it goes way, way beyond anything Ted Cruz had to say.


[link to nypost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71249402
he wasn't talking to cuomo,he was talking to trump

don't lump me in with thoese assholes


it'd be like me saying "american values" and referring to something Obama said


you're as dumb as cruz
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You are so smart...
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smart enough to insult a whole shitload of people for someone they may or may have not voted for


OBAMA SAID GUNZ ARE BAD,SEE LOLZ,AMERICAN VALUES!!!
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smart enough to insult a whole shitload of people for someone they may or may have not voted for


OBAMA SAID GUNZ ARE BAD,SEE LOLZ,AMERICAN VALUES!!!


What are you so ballistic about?

Is New York City conservative or conservative-hating?

Just answer the question with the obvious honest answer if you are capable of doing so.

Are you capable of doing so?
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
 Quoting: TrumpsVeryHighIQCat


all Cruz was talking about was NY has supported a Republican candidate only 6 times since the Great Depression and generally supports gay rights, abortion and mostly all other liberal issues and values...

nobody was talking about 9/11 or the firefighters... he was talking about the citizens of NY and how they vote ...and Trump is a NY citizen who used to be very liberal and supported Clinton and donated to them... you can't deny that ...that is fact ...videos of it everywhere.

and you understand that, but you're so far down on Trump's dick to see it any other way at this point ...so really you just wasted my fingers time even typing this...

this is when you get all mad and cuss me out and say, "TRUMP WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!!" because that's exactly how every last one of you Trump supporters handle anyone contesting his truthfulness... I'm amazed you don't question it yourself when there's viable proof of how liberal he was a mere 10 years ago all over the place... sounds to me like Trump doesn't even know what his values are himself.
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I like Trump but his "9-11" response was ridiculous and a disgusting display of demagoguery. You'd expect that garbage from a Leftist.

It reminded me of THIS: (skip to 1 minute in)


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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
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Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
 Quoting: TrumpsVeryHighIQCat


Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
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did obama elect himself,are those your values?
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
 Quoting: TrumpsVeryHighIQCat


Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
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did obama elect himself,are those your values?
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Obama's values are what we Conservatives are fighting so hard against. But, the fact he won--not once but twice--proves that the collective and cumulative values of the U.S. have tanked. Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance. New York City is ground zero for liberalism.
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I like Trump but his "9-11" response was ridiculous and a disgusting display of demagoguery. You'd expect that garbage from a Leftist.

It reminded me of THIS: (skip to 1 minute in)

 Quoting: Engonoceras


It seemed genuine to me.

Trump rarely invokes 9/11 for political gain though he COULD. He doesn't.

But the man WAS THERE, how can you discount his sincerity when he lived through it?

You're a d-bag.
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
 Quoting: TrumpsVeryHighIQCat


Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
did obama elect himself,are those your values?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


Obama's values are what we Conservatives are fighting so hard against. But, the fact he won--not once but twice--proves that the collective and cumulative values of the U.S. have tanked. Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance. New York City is ground zero for liberalism.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
nyc has always been democrat leaning,no doubt,but this "liberalized" nyc rose at the same time as did in the rest of the nation


so at the end of the day you're saying that it's cool if you fail your "fight" but new yorkers are "Scum" when they do?
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Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
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I get it.

But he served up a meatball for Trump. He really did. Only himself to blame.
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all Cruz was talking about was NY has supported a Republican candidate only 6 times since the Great Depression
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And they won't support Cruz if he's the nominee, so it will be another Republican loss.

But Trump might win NY, if he fights for it.

Cruz is missing the bigger picture. Even if he has a POINT, which he does, he stated it poorly and get his ass handed to him and rightly so.

Trump doesn't DENIGRATE Liberals or Democrats, notice that? But Cruz does any chance he can.

It makes Cruz unelectable in November against Hillary.
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Cruz's implication is that New York City is full of liberal snob imbeciles such as Michael Bloomberg and de Blasio. After all, those losers didn't elect themselves. Don't pretend you don't understand what Cruz meant.
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did obama elect himself,are those your values?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


Obama's values are what we Conservatives are fighting so hard against. But, the fact he won--not once but twice--proves that the collective and cumulative values of the U.S. have tanked. Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance. New York City is ground zero for liberalism.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
nyc has always been democrat leaning,no doubt,but this "liberalized" nyc rose at the same time as did in the rest of the nation


so at the end of the day you're saying that it's cool if you fail your "fight" but new yorkers are "Scum" when they do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


No. The country is sucking hard, but California and New York, especially NYC, suck the hardest. Cruz was right.
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did obama elect himself,are those your values?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


Obama's values are what we Conservatives are fighting so hard against. But, the fact he won--not once but twice--proves that the collective and cumulative values of the U.S. have tanked. Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance. New York City is ground zero for liberalism.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
nyc has always been democrat leaning,no doubt,but this "liberalized" nyc rose at the same time as did in the rest of the nation


so at the end of the day you're saying that it's cool if you fail your "fight" but new yorkers are "Scum" when they do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


No. The country is sucking hard, but California and New York, especially NYC, suck the hardest. Cruz was right.
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not going to sit here and argue with a cruz shill,like talking to a brick fucking wall


here let me make it clear for you


Cruz is a Canadian rat faced spic son of a commie


vote for him at your own peril
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Obama's values are what we Conservatives are fighting so hard against. But, the fact he won--not once but twice--proves that the collective and cumulative values of the U.S. have tanked. Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance. New York City is ground zero for liberalism.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
nyc has always been democrat leaning,no doubt,but this "liberalized" nyc rose at the same time as did in the rest of the nation


so at the end of the day you're saying that it's cool if you fail your "fight" but new yorkers are "Scum" when they do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


No. The country is sucking hard, but California and New York, especially NYC, suck the hardest. Cruz was right.
 Quoting: Fergus Mor Mac Erc
not going to sit here and argue with a cruz shill,like talking to a brick fucking wall


here let me make it clear for you


Cruz is a Canadian rat faced spic son of a commie


vote for him at your own peril
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I'm not a Cruz supporter. In fact, I completely ageree that he's ineligible to run. Nevertheless, his point regarding New York values (i.e. Bloomberg, de Blasio, Senator Clinton values) is valid. Trump and his WWE cultists are turning it into a contrived issue.
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The People of New York will be the first to disappear.
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Does NYC generally despise conservatives?
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Ace of Spades lives in nyc. nyc has a lot of conservatives and the mayor and the governor don't speak for all new yorkers, they give their opinions, cause this is a free country and they can speak their minds. cuomo was talking more to people who are extreme in their view, both left and right, who don't know enough not to carry things too far.

Deblasio is a one term mayor.

nyc is a very tolerant welcoming city. but, if you've never been thee you'd never know that.
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What does any of that have to do with 9/11 firefighters?
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Values. They ran up the Trade Center, risked their lives.

Trump was speaking to that, and Cruz's implications that they don't have any.

Trump owned the moment with everyone, except far right Evangelical mental patients.
 Quoting: TrumpsVeryHighIQCat


all Cruz was talking about was NY has supported a Republican candidate only 6 times since the Great Depression and generally supports gay rights, abortion and mostly all other liberal issues and values...

nobody was talking about 9/11 or the firefighters... he was talking about the citizens of NY and how they vote ...and Trump is a NY citizen who used to be very liberal and supported Clinton and donated to them... you can't deny that ...that is fact ...videos of it everywhere.

and you understand that, but you're so far down on Trump's dick to see it any other way at this point ...so really you just wasted my fingers time even typing this...

Cruz sure sounded like a bigot to me. He was so busy pandering to his evangelical base that he forgot he was insulting new yorkers everywhere and, they are in every state and they are insulted and they do remember stuff like that when they go to the polls.

Trump eviscerated cruz on this and then later marco eviscerated cruz so it wasn't a good night for him even though he's too dumb to realize this. Fox is pushing cruz on everyone big time. even hannity is uncomfortable with the cruz pushing but the blaze is doing the same thing. wonder who wants cruz pushed this hard? Maybe the jebbie group? Maybe the hillary group? certainly not regular mainstream republicans. Maybe the conservative wing of the republican party?

this is when you get all mad and cuss me out and say, "TRUMP WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!!" because that's exactly how every last one of you Trump supporters handle anyone contesting his truthfulness... I'm amazed you don't question it yourself when there's viable proof of how liberal he was a mere 10 years ago all over the place... sounds to me like Trump doesn't even know what his values are himself.
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