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Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists

 
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
It should be noted that the perpetual thermonuclear explosion model of stars is completely ridiculous and therefore so are this "scientist"'s conclusions. Redshift is bogus, there is no proof that black holes exist, and the perfectly circular craters found on the moon, asteroid, mars, etc. were caused by gigantic electrical discharges between heavenly bodies ("lightning bolts"), NOT impacts.

Electric universe ftw.
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It should be noted that potatoes are telepathic, cats can vote in Lithuania. There is no proof for Australia and the tides are caused by the mating habits of herring.

Electric universe ftw.
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Way to straw man, idiot.
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That's not a strawman argument, that's ridiculing your random collection of bogus unsubstantiated assertions.

Electric universe for the laugh.
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
I hope so. Get me off this god forsaken rock.
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I'd say its a siginal.
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It most assuredly IS a signal.

The mechanism that causes it alludes us though.
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Its a planet smasher ....Gets rid of planets in their wacky ufo racing game alien11
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
1,500 light years?

That means it is 9e+15 miles away, or

9,000,000,000,000,000

Nine quadrillion miles.

And then, it is 1,500 light years... and the observations have been over the last 100 years... so the data is from 1,400 to 1,500 years ago.

It is too far away, therefore the information is to old and completely irrelevant. The information they are reviewing was sent to earth in 516 AD.
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Agreed.

We are looking at the past. Which might explain a lot of our own history if this is real. IF this is real.
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
If anyone wants a serious discussion of KIC8462852 let me know. This one here would be a start: Thread: The periodic and secular dimming of KIC 8462852 is not due to comets (Page 4)

I am someone in the field who knows quite a bit about this story, Kepler, SETI and astrobiology in general.

I showed my credentials in this thread which I participated in discussing many of the same things discussed in this current thread. A lot of the questions some of you might have have been answered in that one.

[link to i.imgur.com]
Thread: KIC 8462852: Artificial Signal Confirmed (Page 8)

As for pretty pictures.. It may come as a surprise to the layperson but telescopes are not built primarily to provide you with pretty pictures though such pictures are wonderful.

Modern astronomy is about collecting data, spectra, lightcurves from the light collected from distant objects. Studying that can tell us a whole lot about an object or group of objects even if we can not take detailed images of them so far (need bigger telescopes to do that!).

A good example of this are exoplanets which are usually accompanied by artist renderings.

We COULD have built something like the Terrestrial Planet Finder and Terrestrial Planet Imager which were to be instruments to follow up interesting things Kepler discovered a planned floatilla of space telescopes all linked together to form one giant telescope but that program was cancelled by Bush to pay for the "Constellation" program of human rated heavy lift rockets which too was cancelled.

Want pretty pictures of the "megastructure", pony up and tell your representatives in Congress you want a bigger budget for NASA so they can dust off those old plans.

For now this will have to do… A rendering of the "megastructure" by people who do such renderings…

[link to i.imgur.com]

BTW: The only reason we know about this mystery is because Kepler was launched. Kepler had been cancelled 5 times before it was finally launched and it narrowly escaped the budget ax that killed the Terresrial Planet Finder 3 years before Kepler was eventually launched in 2009.

Lesson: If you wanna find aliens, fund better telescopes.
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Ooops… here's the rendering I meant to post of the "alien megastructure".

[link to i.imgur.com]
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The mainstream media have treated this story as though it was over. i.e.: "its not comets, but its probably not aliens" which is ludicrous to say at this point because even the people from SETI aren't ruling aliens out because they readily admit their ability to detect industrial activity at KIC8462852 aka "Alien Megastructure Star" aka "Tabby's Star" aka "WTF? Star" in their first observations was just to place an upper limit on how strong a signal the hypothetical aliens could be emitting.

We simply do not know what is causing the phenomena of KIC8462852 but the natural observations from colliding planets to comets have all been ruled out and that is very exciting!

However science moves a bit slower than a 24 hour news cycle so this hasn't reached the MSM headlines yet....

Worth a good read:

Ping From the Cosmos -
[link to www.sfgate.com]

And this too...

Power Beaming Parameters & SETI re KIC8462852

[link to www.centauri-dreams.org]
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
The story continues to evolve...

New article on this from Science20: "The real reason why the KIC 8462852 comet hypothesis is dead"

[link to www.science20.com]

The key takeaway from the paper, in my view, is probably not the one the authors intended. It's actually a statement we find in the concluding section of the paper:
This comet family model does not explain the large dip observed around day 800 and treats it as unrelated to the ones starting at day 1500. The flux changes too smoothly and too slowly to be easily explained with a simple comet family model.
This remarkable acknowledgment should not be understated. The dip "around day 800" (from now on, the day-792 dip) is indeed large. It can't be dismissed as an amazing coincidence. To put it another way, "Ockham’s Razor tells us that it is very unlikely that one star will suffer two different mechanisms that are unique to that star" (Schaefer, 2016).


More at the link above. When all you're left with are aliens then aliens become a credible hypothesis, that seems to be where this stands now.
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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
freaky dimmed over the past several centuries

no other starnof its type has been known to do that

probably AI machines a runaway population of self replicating machines would want as much energy as possible

we probably shouldnt try to draw their attention
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Twinkle, twinkle little star,...







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Re: Comets ruled out! Looking more and more like object around star is Alien Megastructure say scientists
freaky dimmed over the past several centuries

no other starnof its type has been known to do that

probably AI machines a runaway population of self replicating machines would want as much energy as possible

we probably shouldnt try to draw their attention

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Well, it's also an equally good chance that the vastly superior alien species over there are benign and won't mind establishing trade routes with Humanity.

I refuse to let Hollywood's decades long overwhelmingly powerful "All space aliens are hell-bent on transforming Humans into animal like entities, or otherwise pure fricken evil!".
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