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Does The "Old Testament" and The "New Testament" contradict or complement each other?

 
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No, it's not. And some early Christian sects only used one gospel.
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So you are saying the Gospel is not the first four books of New Testament?
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As compiled, yes. When did I claim otherwise?
 Quoting: Monotheism


I didnt, Im trying to understand what your point is...then failing to accept Christ's teachings is failing to accept Christ...
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My point was that some early Christan sects only used one gospel account. Like one version of Luke or Matthew. None used the modern NT.

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So you are saying the Gospel is not the first four books of New Testament?
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As compiled, yes. When did I claim otherwise?
 Quoting: Monotheism


I didnt, Im trying to understand what your point is...then failing to accept Christ's teachings is failing to accept Christ...
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


My point was that some early Christan sects only used one gospel account. Like one version of Luke or Matthew. None used the modern NT.
 Quoting: Monotheism

Okay..and??????

Still not getting how that ties into Old Testament contradicting New Testament....
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As compiled, yes. When did I claim otherwise?
 Quoting: Monotheism


I didnt, Im trying to understand what your point is...then failing to accept Christ's teachings is failing to accept Christ...
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


My point was that some early Christan sects only used one gospel account. Like one version of Luke or Matthew. None used the modern NT.
 Quoting: Monotheism

Okay..and??????

Still not getting how that ties into Old Testament contradicting New Testament....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Because you strayed from topic. And it's the NT contradicting the OT, not the other way around.
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I didnt, Im trying to understand what your point is...then failing to accept Christ's teachings is failing to accept Christ...
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


My point was that some early Christan sects only used one gospel account. Like one version of Luke or Matthew. None used the modern NT.
 Quoting: Monotheism

Okay..and??????

Still not getting how that ties into Old Testament contradicting New Testament....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Because you strayed from topic. And it's the NT contradicting the OT, not the other way around.
 Quoting: Monotheism


What is an example of Christ contradicting anything in the Old Testament?
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My point was that some early Christan sects only used one gospel account. Like one version of Luke or Matthew. None used the modern NT.
 Quoting: Monotheism

Okay..and??????

Still not getting how that ties into Old Testament contradicting New Testament....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Because you strayed from topic. And it's the NT contradicting the OT, not the other way around.
 Quoting: Monotheism


What is an example of Christ contradicting anything in the Old Testament?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


You mean Christ's words as narrated by the NT authors? Luke 4:17-21 would be one example.

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Because you strayed from topic. And it's the NT contradicting the OT, not the other way around.
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What is an example of Christ contradicting anything in the Old Testament?
 Quoting: Monotheism


You mean Christ's words as narrated by the NT authors? Luke 4:17-21 would be one example.

Good night.
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"And he came to Naz′a·reth, where he had been reared; and, according to his custom on the sabbath day, he entered into the synagogue, and he stood up to read. 17 So the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed him, and he opened the scroll and found the place where it was written: 18 “Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor, he sent me forth to preach a release to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away with a release, 19 to preach Jehovah’s acceptable year.” 20 With that he rolled up the scroll, handed it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were intently fixed upon him. 21 Then he started to say to them: “Today this scripture that YOU just heard is fulfilled.”- Luke 4:16-21


In what way is that a contradiction? Was Christ lying?
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with reincarnation
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Where does reincarnation appear in either?
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All Scripture is God-Breathed.
2 Timothy 3:16


Also the coming of Jesus was announced in the old testament.

Who told you that is is not valid? Who told you that you have to ignore it? Nobody.

Jesus did not say the OT was bad, he did told you that there is something better. Forgiveness and Love.

But dont forget that God is not only love and joy and a flowering plant. God also made war, child murderers, and everythingn else too.

There is nothing that is, that its not made by God.

So you wont shock or injure God if you do evil or harm another people. You will only injure yourself.
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Did God make war and child murderers and all other evils or does he tolerate the wickedness that Satan introduced to humans...not God...
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Besides the verse dealt with in this thread, Hebrews 10:5, these are the inaccuracies we adressed in the other thread.

17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet Jeremiah:
18 “A voice was heard in Ramah,weeping and loud lamentation,
Rachel weeping for her children; she refused to be comforted, because they are no more.” Matthew 2:17-18

22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[a] (which means “God with us”). Matthew 1:22-23

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:16

Surely you have to concede that these are inaccuracies in the NT that contradict the OT.
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Besides the verse dealt with in this thread, Hebrews 10:5, these are the inaccuracies we adressed in the other thread.

17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet Jeremiah:
18 “A voice was heard in Ramah,weeping and loud lamentation,
Rachel weeping for her children; she refused to be comforted, because they are no more.” Matthew 2:17-18

22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[a] (which means “God with us”). Matthew 1:22-23

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:16

Surely you have to concede that these are inaccuracies in the NT that contradict the OT.
 Quoting: Monotheism


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 Quoting: Monotheism


Another one for the list.

Concerning the Gentiles, God says in the prophecy of Hosea, "Those who were not my people, I will now call my people. And I will love those whom I did not love before." Romans 9:25





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