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Can we implicate Soros in any of this so far?

That might ignite a factional conflict with interesting and unpredictable results.
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Who knows how deep this rabbit hole is, and who was involved. I am sure it is very deep, and that could be what saves her, too many people going down could impact national security.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Ever heard of a talking Weiner? I'm betting he's the weak link if pressed easy enough..he would probably be willing to turn evidence for immunity.
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I friend of mine I went to high school with eventually started working for NCIS (like the real one not the TV show) and with the Department of Defense (DoD). And while she did work in classified and sensitive information her work wasn't all crazy stuff. She said it was pretty mundane boring stuff, but she did have to access secret and classified information.

When the Clinton stuff started happening we had a chat about it and she told me Hillary broke just about every rule and law in the book. She said she didn't even have to know the details about what Hillary did to know she violated some pretty serious protocols.

My friend told me there is extensive training on what to do and how to act on certain things once you get specified levels of clearance. Each level of clearance requires more training, they're always training. She said there is a complete closed computer network for each level. And each level does not mean you have access to another, not matter how top secret it is. You could have Top Secret clearance and not Secret. And it's all based on your need to know. For each situation, issue, or topic, you'd get that clearance.

For each level of clearance you'd have access to that computer network or paper files. For the computer network you might have a laptop to access it. If you had to work in and had clearance for 3 different levels of security, you'd have to have 3 different laptops as each it tied only to that specified level. A Top Secret laptop only has access to the Top Secret network, for example. If she was in the office she'd have to go to specific computer stations to access specific levels, she could not sit there on one computer and access all levels from one machine. Each level is a closed network with zero communication with another.

As for paper files, if you had a classified document on your desk and you left it out when you went to piss, you most likely would be fired. You would have to file it back before your restroom break.

So when my friend and I were talking about Clinton, she said that having any information, at all, outside of the closed individual networks for any reason whatsoever, was a violation. It doesn't matter what the information was. Simply having more than one clearance level on one machine is a no no. Have any information outside the closed network or system is a no no. Talking about it via email is a no no.

Basically every single thing Clinton did was a violation of security rules and the law.

Basically put, my friend made it clear to me that having a single piece of any clearance needed information on a personal device of any kind outside of the secured network of authorized devices would at the very least get you fired, and more than likely get you prosecuted.

I don't care if it was a top secret omelet recipe. Hillary played fast and loose with the rules. And what this says, as we all already know, is Hillary feels she is above the law and above the rules. They do not apply to her. As long as it benefits her in some way, she feels it is her right to do as she likes.

Hillary violated the rules and violated the trust. She violated the system, a system designed to prohibit her types of actions, and she almost assuredly broke the law. Worst of all, depending on the information, she risked our security.

If you go into a store and steal a pack of gum or a gold bar, it doesn't matter. Shoplifting is shoplifting. Theft is theft. The items do not matter, it's the principle of the act.
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Excellent post. Well written, too.

Has the major media covered any of what you've said even one time? Hell no.

Those reporters are not dummies, so at least some of them have to know the sort of thing you've just revealed. The reporters would have to duck and zigzag all day long to avoid the real facts in this scandal. It would be a big story to report, too.

Yet none of this has been on TV. The entire story line is aired or written about as if there is a little bit of incriminating evidence rather than a Mount Everest of proof.

The media complex is sitting on this story. In the competitive news business, each one would chomp at the bit to get this out there before the others did.

So their collective silence is major evidence that we have old fashioned Pravda for our news masquerading as a free press.

ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, the New York Times, The Washington Post, and the LA Times, etc. are all in cahoots spouting the same identical cover story.

Not one is willing to reveal the true story. There is 100% compliance from each and every news source wiht the identical bs misdirection cover up.

What does that tell us?

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All the repiles to this thread, lol. Glprs always bragging about how awake they are but they forget this fact every. single. time. The core of both dem and repub parties are corporate supportists. They are not civil servants, they do not follow the law, and they do not serve the people!

Dems and repubs alike will not let harm come to hillary! Period. If hillary is comprised then big banks, lobbyists, and political action committees may be in danger.

The "deep state" aka the hidden government runs america. They wont let hill and bill go down. They cant let hill and bill go down without endangering themselves!

Just like bush jrs involvement with 9/11. The corruption is not partisian. Only the sheeple are!!

Glprs are still convinced that their party is so pure, whether democrat or republican, lol. When you realize all washington insiders are corrupt beyond salvage is when you will join us glprs who are trully awakened.

Until then you are just another sheeple. So be a good little sheep! Get in line, follow the leader, and wait to be sheered!

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ARE THERE ANY GLPer's FROM IOWA?

It would be nice if this information were to come out in tonight's debate!

Personally, I would start with Sanders bringing up his past comment on her emails. I would present the facts of the investigation and ask him if his comment meant that he condones compromising "State secrets". I would then ask the same question of O'Mally. I would ignore Hillary as she would not answer truthfully.

Has anyone seen the latest on the CNN website? (I went there to see how to pose a question on tonight's debate.)
Hillary is saying that never Bernie or Trump could have held up like she did during her 11 hours questioning during the Benghazi investigation. I wanted to reply so badly that if either had been Sec of State at the time that maybe it would not have happened in the first place and there would be no reason for them to come before Congress for hearings!
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"Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered."

If these are truly the quotes from her they are finding and can prove, she is going to go down, eventually.
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Can we implicate Soros in any of this so far?

That might ignite a factional conflict with interesting and unpredictable results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22571543


Who knows how deep this rabbit hole is, and who was involved. I am sure it is very deep, and that could be what saves her, too many people going down could impact national security.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Ever heard of a talking Weiner? I'm betting he's the weak link if pressed easy enough..he would probably be willing to turn evidence for immunity.
 Quoting: Kadwalladyr


The Weiner doesn't know shit. Nothing but a hedonistic piece of shit sniveling dick sucker that was married to the Huma for political expediency. THe Weiner has already self destructed because it had no verifiable quantity of intellectual skill. It is truly worthless in every sense of the word. Except possibly for entertainment...
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Here's a good conspiracy for you. Say they want a huge constitutional crisis. What would be more of a crisis than having the entire administration collapse?

If they take down both parties, the Obama administration and Clinton, doesn't that leave us with a collapsed government? What happens then? Military takeover? Anarchy?

Maybe they're meant to all go down and fail for a reason. What's the goal of Cloward-Piven? Totally collapse the system.

Just a thought. Outside the box but this is GLP..
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Actually, this sounds entirely plausible. Good post. hf
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Can we implicate Soros in any of this so far?

That might ignite a factional conflict with interesting and unpredictable results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22571543


Who knows how deep this rabbit hole is, and who was involved. I am sure it is very deep, and that could be what saves her, too many people going down could impact national security.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Ever heard of a talking Weiner? I'm betting he's the weak link if pressed easy enough..he would probably be willing to turn evidence for immunity.
 Quoting: Kadwalladyr


The Weiner doesn't know shit. Nothing but a hedonistic piece of shit sniveling dick sucker that was married to the Huma for political expediency. THe Weiner has already self destructed because it had no verifiable quantity of intellectual skill. It is truly worthless in every sense of the word. Except possibly for entertainment...
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Oh I don't know about that. I think turning state's evidence could be VERY entertaining.
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1. IF she is that stupid: that's scary

2. IF she is that nonchalant: that's very stupid

3. IF she is selling it: that's treason

btw: What did Nixon do?
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If this bitch, et al. do not go down for treason, i am out of this country, trump or no trump.


That wld just be not the USA that i know anymore.

Maybe it never was then.
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Can we implicate Soros in any of this so far?

That might ignite a factional conflict with interesting and unpredictable results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22571543


Who knows how deep this rabbit hole is, and who was involved. I am sure it is very deep, and that could be what saves her, too many people going down could impact national security.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Ever heard of a talking Weiner? I'm betting he's the weak link if pressed easy enough..he would probably be willing to turn evidence for immunity.
 Quoting: Kadwalladyr


Oooh, I like this...

:weinerholder:
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as usual nothing will happen
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Not only that, there are people who still want her as president.

wtf
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hesright
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No one wants her for potus. Hv u seen the fucking polls?

People are wise to the shit going down in the obama admin, incl. Shillaryclintons bs.
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1. IF she is that stupid: that's scary

2. IF she is that nonchalant: that's very stupid

3. IF she is selling it: that's treason

btw: What did Nixon do?
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Nixon asked somewhat unsavory people to find out what treason the Democrats were planning in the up-coming election.

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Can we implicate Soros in any of this so far?

That might ignite a factional conflict with interesting and unpredictable results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22571543


Who knows how deep this rabbit hole is, and who was involved. I am sure it is very deep, and that could be what saves her, too many people going down could impact national security.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Ever heard of a talking Weiner? I'm betting he's the weak link if pressed easy enough..he would probably be willing to turn evidence for immunity.
 Quoting: Kadwalladyr


That might absolve him a bit for marrying a muslim, so long as he divorces her and severs ties with the spawn of that abhorrent breeding process. He is still an adulterer, unless he fixes that, too.

Weiner indeed.
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I friend of mine I went to high school with eventually started working for NCIS (like the real one not the TV show) and with the Department of Defense (DoD). And while she did work in classified and sensitive information her work wasn't all crazy stuff. She said it was pretty mundane boring stuff, but she did have to access secret and classified information.

When the Clinton stuff started happening we had a chat about it and she told me Hillary broke just about every rule and law in the book. She said she didn't even have to know the details about what Hillary did to know she violated some pretty serious protocols.

My friend told me there is extensive training on what to do and how to act on certain things once you get specified levels of clearance. Each level of clearance requires more training, they're always training. She said there is a complete closed computer network for each level. And each level does not mean you have access to another, not matter how top secret it is. You could have Top Secret clearance and not Secret. And it's all based on your need to know. For each situation, issue, or topic, you'd get that clearance.

For each level of clearance you'd have access to that computer network or paper files. For the computer network you might have a laptop to access it. If you had to work in and had clearance for 3 different levels of security, you'd have to have 3 different laptops as each it tied only to that specified level. A Top Secret laptop only has access to the Top Secret network, for example. If she was in the office she'd have to go to specific computer stations to access specific levels, she could not sit there on one computer and access all levels from one machine. Each level is a closed network with zero communication with another.

As for paper files, if you had a classified document on your desk and you left it out when you went to piss, you most likely would be fired. You would have to file it back before your restroom break.

So when my friend and I were talking about Clinton, she said that having any information, at all, outside of the closed individual networks for any reason whatsoever, was a violation. It doesn't matter what the information was. Simply having more than one clearance level on one machine is a no no. Have any information outside the closed network or system is a no no. Talking about it via email is a no no.

Basically every single thing Clinton did was a violation of security rules and the law.

Basically put, my friend made it clear to me that having a single piece of any clearance needed information on a personal device of any kind outside of the secured network of authorized devices would at the very least get you fired, and more than likely get you prosecuted.

I don't care if it was a top secret omelet recipe. Hillary played fast and loose with the rules. And what this says, as we all already know, is Hillary feels she is above the law and above the rules. They do not apply to her. As long as it benefits her in some way, she feels it is her right to do as she likes.

Hillary violated the rules and violated the trust. She violated the system, a system designed to prohibit her types of actions, and she almost assuredly broke the law. Worst of all, depending on the information, she risked our security.

If you go into a store and steal a pack of gum or a gold bar, it doesn't matter. Shoplifting is shoplifting. Theft is theft. The items do not matter, it's the principle of the act.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Excellent post. Well written, too.

Has the major media covered any of what you've said even one time? Hell no.

Those reporters are not dummies, so at least some of them have to know the sort of thing you've just revealed. The reporters would have to duck and zigzag all day long to avoid the real facts in this scandal. It would be a big story to report, too.

Yet none of this has been on TV. The entire story line is aired or written about as if there is a little bit of incriminating evidence rather than a Mount Everest of proof.

The media complex is sitting on this story. In the competitive news business, each one would chomp at the bit to get this out there before the others did.

So their collective silence is major evidence that we have old fashioned Pravda for our news masquerading as a free press.

ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, the New York Times, The Washington Post, and the LA Times, etc. are all in cahoots spouting the same identical cover story.

Not one is willing to reveal the true story. There is 100% compliance from each and every news source wiht the identical bs misdirection cover up.

What does that tell us?
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1. IF she is that stupid: that's scary

2. IF she is that nonchalant: that's very stupid

3. IF she is selling it: that's treason

btw: What did Nixon do?
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Nixon asked somewhat unsavory people to find out what treason the Democrats were planning in the up-coming election.

:nixon:
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Seems like such a small thing now doesnt it?

Wiretapping the dnc hqs .... i mean what does obama hv access to?

Oh, but he's the first n---er potus, so it wld be "racist" if we charged him with anything.......bullfuckingshit, it wld be JUSTICE.

* i use n---er bc he is an offensive dark skinned man to me and that is the definition of the word as i hv read it in dictionaries.

Nvr used that word before he was potus.
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FBI agents are zeroing in on three of Clinton’s top department aides. Most of the Clinton e-mails deemed classified by intelligence agency reviewers were sent to her by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.

In one e-mail, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by a foreign leader.

“Just e-mail it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified e-mail system, there is no physical way for me to e-mail it.”

In another recently released e-mail, Clinton instructed Sullivan to convert a classified document into an unclassified e-mail attachment by scanning it into an unsecured computer and sending it to her without any classified markings. “Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered.


Top Secret/SCI e-mails received by Clinton include a 2012 staff ­e-mail sent to the then-secretary containing investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI and sourcing a regional security officer. They also include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi.

“Receiving Top Secret SAP intelligence outside secure channels is a mortal sin,” said Chris Farrell, director of investigations for Judicial Watch, the Washington-based public law firm that has successfully sued State for Clinton’s e-mails.

“A regular government employee would be crucified, and they are, routinely,” added Farrell, who as a former Army counterintelligence agent investigated such violations
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If this is true....there are a lot of people headed to prison on espionage charges including Hillary.
Crazy.


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1. IF she is that stupid: that's scary

2. IF she is that nonchalant: that's very stupid

3. IF she is selling it: that's treason

btw: What did Nixon do?
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You know....that's a valid potential at this point.
that would also explain a lot of Clinton Foundation donations by foreign governments and players.

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She's trying to be the POTUS ! Repeat that 3 times and let it sink in. This is what this country has come to ? I'm am outraged and this entire circus demonstrates what 99% of the glpers ,that are not on someones pay roll, know:

#1.)The media is entirely controlled and the public will never be informed on anything.
#2.)Washington is a big pile of crap filled with self serving,lying,cheating elected officials and the entrenched government is even more corrupt.

s for those getting paid and reading this the number would be 100% !!!resist
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FBI agents are zeroing in on three of Clinton’s top department aides. Most of the Clinton e-mails deemed classified by intelligence agency reviewers were sent to her by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.

In one e-mail, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by a foreign leader.

“Just e-mail it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified e-mail system, there is no physical way for me to e-mail it.”

In another recently released e-mail, Clinton instructed Sullivan to convert a classified document into an unclassified e-mail attachment by scanning it into an unsecured computer and sending it to her without any classified markings. “Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered.


Top Secret/SCI e-mails received by Clinton include a 2012 staff ­e-mail sent to the then-secretary containing investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI and sourcing a regional security officer. They also include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi.

“Receiving Top Secret SAP intelligence outside secure channels is a mortal sin,” said Chris Farrell, director of investigations for Judicial Watch, the Washington-based public law firm that has successfully sued State for Clinton’s e-mails.

“A regular government employee would be crucified, and they are, routinely,” added Farrell, who as a former Army counterintelligence agent investigated such violations
 Quoting: Bodiless


If this is true....there are a lot of people headed to prison on espionage charges including Hillary.
Crazy.


:wtfspock:
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It is true. Sullivan was bullied, he shld hv just not done it and taken whatever hit came, she is the most culpable in this fiasco.
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[link to nypost.com]

Hitlary and her aides moved info from very top secret. closed servers (closed for security reasons of course), to her private email server. This is a huge no no as those servers are closed for a reason, which she and her staff should have fully understood. Anyone else doing this would be doing 20 years in a heartbeat. Its going to be tuff to wiggle out of this one.

From the article

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send ­e-mails outside the government.


To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”


“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,”
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Not only that but I seriously doubt the aide who copied the data to the low side memorized the entire document. That means he/she had to bring some type of recording device into the secret space (cell phone, CD writeable, USB hard drive or thumb drive, etc.) which is a HUGE violation of policy.

Then knowingly stripping the contents of their classification headers and putting it on the low side...unbelievable.

Yet, I seriously doubt the Department of Non-Justice is going to prosecute her.
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How do you think Snowden did it. Thumb drive that how.
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She's trying to be the POTUS ! Repeat that 3 times and let it sink in. This is what this country has come to ? I'm am outraged and this entire circus demonstrates what 99% of the glpers ,that are not on someones pay roll, know:

#1.)The media is entirely controlled and the public will never be informed on anything.
#2.)Washington is a big pile of crap filled with self serving,lying,cheating elected officials and the entrenched government is even more corrupt.

s for those getting paid and reading this the number would be 100% !!!resist
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Time to take out the trash for good.
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[link to nypost.com]

Hitlary and her aides moved info from very top secret. closed servers (closed for security reasons of course), to her private email server. This is a huge no no as those servers are closed for a reason, which she and her staff should have fully understood. Anyone else doing this would be doing 20 years in a heartbeat. Its going to be tuff to wiggle out of this one.

From the article

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send ­e-mails outside the government.


To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”


“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,”
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


Not only that but I seriously doubt the aide who copied the data to the low side memorized the entire document. That means he/she had to bring some type of recording device into the secret space (cell phone, CD writeable, USB hard drive or thumb drive, etc.) which is a HUGE violation of policy.

Then knowingly stripping the contents of their classification headers and putting it on the low side...unbelievable.

Yet, I seriously doubt the Department of Non-Justice is going to prosecute her.
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How do you think Snowden did it. Thumb drive that how.
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Yes, and that is why he is up for treason.
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I friend of mine I went to high school with eventually started working for NCIS (like the real one not the TV show) and with the Department of Defense (DoD). And while she did work in classified and sensitive information her work wasn't all crazy stuff. She said it was pretty mundane boring stuff, but she did have to access secret and classified information.

When the Clinton stuff started happening we had a chat about it and she told me Hillary broke just about every rule and law in the book. She said she didn't even have to know the details about what Hillary did to know she violated some pretty serious protocols.

My friend told me there is extensive training on what to do and how to act on certain things once you get specified levels of clearance. Each level of clearance requires more training, they're always training. She said there is a complete closed computer network for each level. And each level does not mean you have access to another, not matter how top secret it is. You could have Top Secret clearance and not Secret. And it's all based on your need to know. For each situation, issue, or topic, you'd get that clearance.

For each level of clearance you'd have access to that computer network or paper files. For the computer network you might have a laptop to access it. If you had to work in and had clearance for 3 different levels of security, you'd have to have 3 different laptops as each it tied only to that specified level. A Top Secret laptop only has access to the Top Secret network, for example. If she was in the office she'd have to go to specific computer stations to access specific levels, she could not sit there on one computer and access all levels from one machine. Each level is a closed network with zero communication with another.

As for paper files, if you had a classified document on your desk and you left it out when you went to piss, you most likely would be fired. You would have to file it back before your restroom break.

So when my friend and I were talking about Clinton, she said that having any information, at all, outside of the closed individual networks for any reason whatsoever, was a violation. It doesn't matter what the information was. Simply having more than one clearance level on one machine is a no no. Have any information outside the closed network or system is a no no. Talking about it via email is a no no.

Basically every single thing Clinton did was a violation of security rules and the law.

Basically put, my friend made it clear to me that having a single piece of any clearance needed information on a personal device of any kind outside of the secured network of authorized devices would at the very least get you fired, and more than likely get you prosecuted.

I don't care if it was a top secret omelet recipe. Hillary played fast and loose with the rules. And what this says, as we all already know, is Hillary feels she is above the law and above the rules. They do not apply to her. As long as it benefits her in some way, she feels it is her right to do as she likes.

Hillary violated the rules and violated the trust. She violated the system, a system designed to prohibit her types of actions, and she almost assuredly broke the law. Worst of all, depending on the information, she risked our security.

If you go into a store and steal a pack of gum or a gold bar, it doesn't matter. Shoplifting is shoplifting. Theft is theft. The items do not matter, it's the principle of the act.
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Excellent post. Well written, too.

Has the major media covered any of what you've said even one time? Hell no.

Those reporters are not dummies, so at least some of them have to know the sort of thing you've just revealed. The reporters would have to duck and zigzag all day long to avoid the real facts in this scandal. It would be a big story to report, too.

Yet none of this has been on TV. The entire story line is aired or written about as if there is a little bit of incriminating evidence rather than a Mount Everest of proof.

The media complex is sitting on this story. In the competitive news business, each one would chomp at the bit to get this out there before the others did.

So their collective silence is major evidence that we have old fashioned Pravda for our news masquerading as a free press.

ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, the New York Times, The Washington Post, and the LA Times, etc. are all in cahoots spouting the same identical cover story.

Not one is willing to reveal the true story. There is 100% compliance from each and every news source wiht the identical bs misdirection cover up.

What does that tell us?
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All polling is rigged by the very same FASCIST-CORPORATIST entities which also bring all the "programming" to the people. They call it "programming" for nothing.

For the simpletons, a little humor how it is done on the "Propaganda Distribution Networks"



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"HISTORIC", isn't it?"

The mainstream media, as I've mentioned a number of times here, is regulated and maintained by an unnamed and unknown shadow cabal of people comprised of high level cognitive scientists and psychologists who work in collaboration and collusion with the acting government and the real powers that be who enable them. They are our "reality creators". Analyze their every move as you would a vicious, unrelenting enemy and never accept anything they disseminate at the delivery of their premise. Do not even accept their "questions" to you, the listener/reader as being vaild and worthy of response. Reject all of it. They are the enemy of all independent, free thinkers. They are nothing more than evolved and refined, aggressive psy-ops.

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Ya know, we all see the line of BS coming." I was unaware...I wasn't informed.... I didn't_______.


Like she doesn't know what the Establishment is.


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Never heard that before.

Nice. coffee4
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Water Gate that took down a sitting POTUS compared to this ???epiclol
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STRESS MUCH??

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FBI agents are zeroing in on three of Clinton’s top department aides. Most of the Clinton e-mails deemed classified by intelligence agency reviewers were sent to her by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.

In one e-mail, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by a foreign leader.

“Just e-mail it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified e-mail system, there is no physical way for me to e-mail it.”

In another recently released e-mail, Clinton instructed Sullivan to convert a classified document into an unclassified e-mail attachment by scanning it into an unsecured computer and sending it to her without any classified markings. “Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered.


Top Secret/SCI e-mails received by Clinton include a 2012 staff ­e-mail sent to the then-secretary containing investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI and sourcing a regional security officer. They also include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi.

“Receiving Top Secret SAP intelligence outside secure channels is a mortal sin,” said Chris Farrell, director of investigations for Judicial Watch, the Washington-based public law firm that has successfully sued State for Clinton’s e-mails.

“A regular government employee would be crucified, and they are, routinely,” added Farrell, who as a former Army counterintelligence agent investigated such violations
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If this is true....there are a lot of people headed to prison on espionage charges including Hillary.
Crazy.


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It is true. Sullivan was bullied, he shld hv just not done it and taken whatever hit came, she is the most culpable in this fiasco.
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It would be nice if there were some links associated with those statements.
...otherwise I always question their validity.

Also...
If that info/ the links are from Catherine Herridge's reporting.....then you can believe it's real.
She's a true and honest JOURNALIST.

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