Noah Chamberlin was Murdered

Must see. Please listen to the end. The first part is about all the children raped and killed. But later it tells why a lot of this is happening.

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Sigh.....there is no evidence that Noah Chamberlin was murdered. I don't know why you are all so fixated on this one conclusion. If he had been murdered the sheriff's office or other authorities would say so. YES THEY WOULD.

Someone had asked me on that thread, as a professional psychic, if I could get anything on Noah. I thought he was already dead by the time they asked but I didn't want to discourage people too much. I said he would be found in an area they had already checked, lying down in a clearing (I thought he was in a indentation perhaps covered by leaves, almost like a bed), there would be no indication of foul play, it would appear to be hypothermia and he would be found by THURSDAY (Thursday kept coming up strongly to me and of course, he WAS found on Thursday). I also picked up that Noah had indeed been lost and his family did NOT kill him. I still stand behind all of that. As to what I think happened to Noah, I won't state again because none of you believe me anyway. However, I will refer you to David Paulides 411 books as I think this is a similar case to the many he enumerates.

I think it's terrible the way you slander this poor family who have just suffered the greatest tragedy any family can have. If you have any evidence that this child was murdered, esp by the family, you should bring it to the FBI, or to some interested party like Nancy Grace. But the way you're obsessing about this with no real evidence - the main thing being if he was killed, foul play - seems rather sick to me.

Sorry to be blunt, but that's what I think.

Your bullshit "phychic abilities" will only shed light on how much of a con you are.

How about you take your own advise and talk about FACTS not your made up mind powers

Beyond a shadow of a doubt huh? And this is based on what info?

I don't know if you're directly referring to me as a psychic, but if you are, you can go back and find my posts in that 255 page thread and see what I said. It's right there.

As for FACTS, you have no FACTS that Noah Chamberlin was murdered at all, and certainly not by the family. It's some sick belief that many of you have instead of giving the family the benefit of the doubt and extending compassion to them. The only FACT that I see with this case, is your obsession against this poor family.

That's directed toward ANYONE who thinks they have special powers. I believe they think they have powers...

The only way law enforcement could be absolutely positive the family had nothing to do with the boys death is if they knew exactly what happened to him. They knew he wasn't buried under the freshly poured concrete or kidnapped by sex offenders nearby (they didn't even question the worst one of them who was a little boy toucher) They weren't investigating any other kinds of leads other than the 'lost in the woods" scenario. What this translates into to me is they already had the body on day one, knew exactly what happened to him, and were lying through their teeth about it.

I don't have any "psychic powers" at least not that I know of, but it doesn't take any to know them dope fiend jesus freaks killed that little boy and that sleazy bastard of a sheriff covered it up, if he wasn't there having a hand in the death. Noah Chamberlin was murdered, because if he wasn't murdered there would have been no need for this electorate cover up and story

Let's put it another way...There is no evidence that he was NOT killed...Further more, there is no evidence that Noah is even dead.

If Noah was sold (Child trafficking), losing him in the woods could be a cover story.

you stated that you KNEW the child was dead but "didn't want to discourage others too much" so that is why you said nothing? That is the most fucked up excuse for not saying anything I have ever heard in my life. To withold knowledge of a crime because it might upset someone makes me think YOU could even be "in on it".

are you?

David Paulides? Why don't you look into his past. He's not exactly trust worthy. 411 stuff is only for entertainment.

What if Noah and those missing 411 cases are tied in with the video I posted about missing children and some species of reptile shape shifters. They could clone them or how did that guy put it? ...made another body ...and then place the newly "made" body somewhere to be found.

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No. She's not in on it. She thinks Noah magically appeared in a place where everyone already looked from the air and on foot.

If my thoughts are right on someone "Making" a new body, it would explain why they had to wait 7 days for the body to be discovered. I forget how long it takes to clone...but not a long, long time. (What if the animals on the farm are cloned?)...lol just typed that thought as it came to me.

back to a "made" body. It would also explain why the body had no scratches or marks on it and maybe why he had no shoes on. Possibly because he did lose one and so they left them off of the 'made' body.

Think out of the box, folks! I guarantee you that the dark ones do.

thinking out of the box here...

Could there be a cloning facility lab under ground at the ranch?

I don't know what happened to Noah but I believe the cover up is to obvious to ignore, and it seems to include quite a few authorities.

I wish that posted that saw missing children would post again. I feel he could help us.

Thanks for sharing what you think! The family didn't give a shit what you thought, didn't want anything to do with you or your "talents". So your defense of them is doubly kind. I'm with them, by the way, on the usefulness of psychics. I think there are maybe 1 or 2 real ones for every 10,000 shams, so the odds aren't in your favor. We're trying to gather FACTS, and it's not slander...I'm getting very tired of ignorant people saying that. I'm sure you can read my mind because you're super talented, but just in case; ITS NOT SLANDER IF ITS TRUE, OR THE PERSON HAS A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT IT COULD BE TRUE.

And this thread is about gathering those facts. There are plenty of places to go lick the Robertsons' boots and commiserate with the sheep. This thread ain't it.

Let me try to say this in a way that you might understand.....even though I might, as a psychic, have some sense of things that perhaps others don't.... I COULD ALWAYS BE WRONG. It's rare...but it's been known to happen. Psychics have to be very careful in this kind of case as we, like any decent person, hope that the child IS alive and will be found. In fact, psychics have been wrong about this kind of event in both ways - saying a child was alive and they were dead, and saying they were dead, when they were alive. This is a very tender subject and someone like me does not look for publicity. Moreover, as I believed the child was dead anyway and would be found soon - by Thursday as I said - it made no difference.

I think my attempt to not inflict myself upon this situation and to be as demure as possible (coming in when I was asked) is far less of an error or sin or whatever you want to consider it, then you truly terrible people who have been reviling this poor family for many days now. What terrible people you are with your bitter words and tongues and no evidence. Don't slam me as it least what I said was proved to be correct and you can go back in the thread and SEE THAT. You can also see other threads I've done with readings to see my general accuracy. Far more than you pathetic folks with your endless comparisons of names and phone lists.

Get off your high horse and try to do some good for living children and stop bothering this family. It's disgraceful and you should be ashamed. If you have any real evidence, give it to the authorities or to someone like Nancy Grace or give it up.

The problem here is that most people are extremely, extremely close minded and unable to think beyond the reality they see with their literal physical eyes. Even the religious people are like this and they're praying to an invisible God and invisible saints and angels! I personally believe there are many other dimensions to this world, with many other beings and that there are passages between these dimensions, which people sometimes accidentally find. I believe that animals use these passages routinely. I personally think that's what happened to Noah.

This would explain the lack of footprints and the dogs not picking up a scent and the lack of any foul play evidence. It would also explain him being found in an area that had been checked previously. I think he was put there to be found, but not by the family. I really don't believe the family is guilty of anything. The lack of foul play evidence is the most important as if there is ANYTHING there that indicates a possible crime, the authorities can work back from that. If not, then...what is there? It's a mystery and no one in this realm can be blamed.

You folks can believe what you want, and you will, but to automatically jump to the conclusion that this poor family killed this child and disposed of him in some heartless manner (i.e., in concrete) to me, seems like a sign of real mental illness. If I believed any person took Noah I would certainly be more inclined to look for perverts or drifters. But as I say, I don't think any of that is the case.

Paulides' 411 cases are fascinating and troubling, and one should listen to them and look into them in depth. I have spent many hours listening to various interviews he's given. He also now has a book about the urban disappearances of young men, frequently college students, who disappear for days or weeks at a time under mysterious circumstances, and then reappear....in a body of water. I personally have read of these stories even before I heard Paulides discussing this. He also discusses specific cases like the Elisa Lam mystery of Los Angeles, if I remember right, the young woman found in the water tank of the Cecil Hotel.

At any rate, I'm sure most of the people reading this think I'm a crackpot, which is fine with me as my opinion of them is pretty low. At least they can go back to threads here on GLP where I've done readings and see that I do indeed have credibility as a psychic. But I have yet to see any of these folks crack a "murder" mystery with their great intellectual and investigative powers.

Fair enough. You have made some good points. If you are correct then they should all pass a polygraph with flying colors. If it were me I would have volunteered. Absolutely insisisted on taking a lie detector test. If you are really psychic, then tell me something about myself. Please.

You can say what YOU want. But the numbers don't lie. Please explain the numbers connection.

No, cloned and replaced him will be without anybody knowing. Here is not this case, it's sacrifice ritual.

What if....remains are not N.I.C. BUT another child :(

Your arrogance is something else. It's fine to have your opinion but to discount all other possibilities because you've determine this is it and that's all, then come in here and harangue people for looking at the options...sheesh. Get over yourself.

I've read of the 411 stuff. There's something to it, lots of strange things going on in this world that don't seem to have worldly answers. But first you have to discount the worldly things. My problem with this case is that from day 1 the sheriff said no foul play. I have never heard a law man do that before. Then all the discrepancies, the eyewitness accounts of strangeness and threats at the search site, culminating with the horrific way Noah's body was handled when he was found. Something isn't right and there was no investigation at all. The thousands of people following these people, sending money, etc., they deserve to know if they are being played. And if someone destroyed that beautiful child's life, not only does the world deserve to know that, Noah deserves justice.

And that's what we want to know. Was there reason to wave away foul play from the get go because these people are pure as the driven snow? NO. Quite the opposite. There are several key things that need answers and we are about to tee it up in a major way. This thread here (and the other one) are people around the nation (and world) working together to find the facts so that if someone did something worse to that little boy than what has been disclosed, there will be justice. We owe it to that child. And people seem to forget there is another child in the midst of all of that. Is she safe? We won't know until the investigation is done properly.

Grandma says she turned around and he was gone...that is just like the 411 stories. However, we have only her word on that. There is a logger that was working in the area who said he saw her driving up and down the road. A more likely scenario is that the child left the house and grandma didn't know which way he went or how long he'd been gone and this disappearance story is a LIE. Again, there are a lot of moving parts coming together. Just let us do our thing, once they have been properly investigated and polygraphed, etc., we can turn to your theory. There is yours, and a few other "outside the box" ideas we can look at IF the worldly issues are ruled out. I'm very open-minded, but I also know many humans can present very sweet demeanors and be absolute monsters.

Paulides himself states that he doesn't consider a case unless all things are ruled out, including foul play (I believe this was from Coast to Coast AM in November of 2015).

While I am not discounting that the 411 may be a possibility in this case, without foul play being completely ruled out by normal police methods, we're all left at the same circles we run.

mehitable, you believe he was taken to a different dimension. Which is fine, but have you ever spoken to someone who had this happen to them? Most won't talk about it, if they do come back. Historically, most of the people that went to Faerie came back with broken minds. Those that didn't break, and those that don't break, don't talk about it for good reasons, being crazy is actually the least of it all.

I have said before I do not know if the family did it, although I know it is being taken that way. I also do not know if he crossed a veil, met big foot, fell at the hands of a hunter or simply just wandered off and the story is true.

But the fact remains, in our dimension, things that are done for the majority of missing person cases was not done in this case. These things are called procedure, and for reason.

Procedure was not followed, at all. Beginning with the announcement of no foul play when it was not possible to determine that and really culminating with not letting the ME process the death scene and moving the body.

A little boy was lost. Whatever the reason, it ended terribly. As a parent, I do not understand how people react the way they did. I am not particularly faithful, but I would be searching for answers...and I am because in the end, I want to protect MY child from these things that go bump in the night.

What about if Noah was kidnapped by that drug gang and told the parents that if they went to the law, they would kill Noah.

Could not LE and family have faked this whole "Noah in the woods" story to buy time and to explain Noah's absence, since they couldn't say he was kidnapped?

And could they be wanting money to pay a ransom?

In this case LE of course was in on it and that is why they didn't want the family blamed...because they knew the real story...

...and could not the gang have killed Noah and left that note for Noah's dad saying where Noah was?

That would account for Sheriff Weaver's emotional display because he was hoping for Noah to be alive.

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...or maybe Noah is still alive.

Perhaps we should watch to see if Grandpa sells their property to help raise money.

My thoughts are probably just wishful thinking cause I don't like the alternative. :(

this is a conspiracy theory website, not a murder solving one, so I will leave your post up. I will say this, though. My purpose in starting this thread and maintaining it is to draw attention to the fact that I AND MANY OTHERS DO INDEED THINK THE FAMILY IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN AND GUILTY OF NOAH'S DEATH. Whether that death is an intentional murder, or "just" manslaughter due to total negligence and then covered up after the fact, is another matter, but when all other media sources and law enforcement officials are QUITE FRANKLY DROPPING THE GODAMN BALL ON THIS, then the only recourse I and others do have is at least to keep as much attention on it and WHY WE THINK THE WAY WE DO as well.

I will allow outside discussion other than those who suspect Noah of being murdered to be brought up, but it will not be the MAIN topic here, nor will I allow this thread to be siderailed into discussing anything and everything related to the case.

SO I WILL JUST SAY THIS ONCE. ALL FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND LINKS TO "411 AND OTHER MISSING CASES" WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE FROM THIS THREAD.

period.

that is all. I would very much like the focus to be EXACTLY on "names and lists" and "mehitable" puts it.

and ANYONE can take on that name, by the way, it's an ANONYMOUS poster that is giving itself a name.

might not even be the same one that's been here posting a while for all we know, but the "great aunt" again, trying to derail everything. And with good reason.

we could very well have the KILLER POSTING TO COVER HER TRACKS.

and yeah I said 'her'. because the killer was a woman. I know that now too.

that's MY "psychic bullshit" right there. No evidence or facts but a firm belief and opinion and gut feeling.

That's how it works for me, anyway. I just let it flow.

and if I am wrong, have no problem in saying so, and more than anything else, want to let all voices that want to present EVIDENCE have a say so.

and if they have opinions that aren't popular to say them here too.

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when I say that discussions having to do with 411 etc will be deleted, I do NOT mean if they are part of OVERALL "speculation", but rather if they focus on ONLY that aspect of it, and start spamming up the thread.

is Seth the FATHER?

THE RAPIST/CHILD MOLESTER?

that would be extra freaky with the GRANDMOTHER WHO IS A REGISTERED FELON FOR HARMING A CHILD.

Why Cults Kill and Terrorize Children

Snip:

Cults of the past usually proclaimed the group would be reborn through the sacrifice of children and contemporary cults go through death ritually in graveyards with rebirth elements such as members going through the legs of others in order to he reborn.

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Just sayin'...