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Heading to the southern hemisphere tomorrow. I don't know what kind of internet connection I'll have down there, if any at all. As you might have guessed, I do have plans to film, photograph and observe the southern skies while I'm down there (though bringing my main telescope just isn't practical so a widefield short tube refractor is the order of the day). I may or may not have the ability to occasionally post updates before I get back. Try not to completely lose your shit over any fake Nibiru or asteroid doom while I'm gone.

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COOL! Have a good time Doc and take lots of pics. cool2
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Have fun!
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Time to bug out?
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So you're heading to your bunker?

Lol! Have fun Dr. Astro!
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Heading to the bunker, eh ?
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Nice, stay safe and watch out for that virus going around if you're staying in the Americas.
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yeah, that's happening more and more I noticed.
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Heading to the southern hemisphere tomorrow. I don't know what kind of internet connection I'll have down there, if any at all. As you might have guessed, I do have plans to film, photograph and observe the southern skies while I'm down there (though bringing my main telescope just isn't practical so a widefield short tube refractor is the order of the day). I may or may not have the ability to occasionally post updates before I get back. Try not to completely lose your shit over any fake Nibiru or asteroid doom while I'm gone.
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I guess you need to put an end to the FE stuff.

Take some timestamped photos of the stars circling the sky so they can verify that they turn the opposite direction south of the equator.
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So you're heading to your bunker?

Lol! Have fun Dr. Astro!
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He's going to confirm the arrival of Niburu.
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Have a safe trip.
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So you're heading to your bunker?

Lol! Have fun Dr. Astro!
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Heading to the bunker, eh ?
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Aw, what the heck, might as well post it.
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Its time to go check it out yourself?
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Have a great time & stay safe.
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Fuck off we're full
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Just was reading a Yahoo News article on this Planet 9, and was struck by this statement:

"NASA has thoroughly debunked the Nibiru myth via its Beyond 2012 page, saying, ‘Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye." [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)]


Here's my question: doesn't this statement by NASA beg the obvious question? I mean, if there is a unknown planet out there as NASA is telling us, how could they have not seen it by now? If they can't see it, then how can they be sure that it will not pass close to Earth as the Nibiru-tards are alleging? It seems that both NASA and the Nibiru-tards are merely operating on hypotheses and neither really knows what will happen.
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Southern hemisphere implies that the Earth actually has hemispheres...which it cannot since it is flat!

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Dr. Astro is heading South on another secret mission:

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Heading to the southern hemisphere tomorrow. I don't know what kind of internet connection I'll have down there, if any at all. As you might have guessed, I do have plans to film, photograph and observe the southern skies while I'm down there (though bringing my main telescope just isn't practical so a widefield short tube refractor is the order of the day). I may or may not have the ability to occasionally post updates before I get back. Try not to completely lose your shit over any fake Nibiru or asteroid doom while I'm gone.
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Have fun.Stay away from the mosquitoespump2.
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Just was reading a Yahoo News article on this Planet 9, and was struck by this statement:

"NASA has thoroughly debunked the Nibiru myth via its Beyond 2012 page, saying, ‘Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye." [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)]


Here's my question: doesn't this statement by NASA beg the obvious question? I mean, if there is a unknown planet out there as NASA is telling us, how could they have not seen it by now? If they can't see it, then how can they be sure that it will not pass close to Earth as the Nibiru-tards are alleging? It seems that both NASA and the Nibiru-tards are merely operating on hypotheses and neither really knows what will happen.
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Maybe its not a planet at all....

Maybe its a huge spaceship, like in the hollow moon theory...

Why it can't be seen is due to how it bends light through its magnetic propulsion system....
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Heading to the southern hemisphere tomorrow. I don't know what kind of internet connection I'll have down there, if any at all. As you might have guessed, I do have plans to film, photograph and observe the southern skies while I'm down there (though bringing my main telescope just isn't practical so a widefield short tube refractor is the order of the day). I may or may not have the ability to occasionally post updates before I get back. Try not to completely lose your shit over any fake Nibiru or asteroid doom while I'm gone.
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Tops, see you soon Astro - whereabouts in the South you heading?

I don't think GLP will survive your absence :D
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Don't catch the Zika.
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Gone to the south because the February 3rd event,Brilliant!
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Southern hemisphere implies that the Earth actually has hemispheres...which it cannot since it is flat!

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Unless you make the flat earth face North to South....

Then He's headed towards the South pole of the flat Earth...

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Don't forget to bring the apparatus to flush counter clock wize!!
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Fuck off we're full
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I'm guessing that you have a tattoo of the southern cross just like the one on the Brazilian flag.
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make sure you send us pics of Planet (7)X as it makes itself visible next to the sun. Say MID FEBRUARY???
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Just was reading a Yahoo News article on this Planet 9, and was struck by this statement:

"NASA has thoroughly debunked the Nibiru myth via its Beyond 2012 page, saying, ‘Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye." [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)]


Here's my question: doesn't this statement by NASA beg the obvious question? I mean, if there is a unknown planet out there as NASA is telling us, how could they have not seen it by now?
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There's a huge difference between proposing a planet that is on the order of about 1000 AU away and one which is supposedly here in the inner solar system.
Maybe they will find it with the Subaru telescope, but it's going to be exceptionally dim. Iorio's research puts it in the ballpark of about 1000AU distance, right in line with my calculations below.
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The laws of optics matter. This planet, if it exists, will require a powerful telescope to see it.
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How much powerful? is your enough powerful for that? have you tried to look for it if it is enough powerful?
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That's a fair question and the answer depends on where it is in its orbit. By Kepler's laws of motion, orbits subtend equal area in equal time. What that means is that it's moving much faster at perihelion and very slowly at aphelion. The consequence is that it spends the vast majority of its time closer to aphelion than close to perihelion, so for any randomly selected point in time (ie, our lifetimes) an object like this in an eccentric orbit that is tens of thousands of years long is much more likely to be closer to aphelion than perihelion. This unfortunately means that it's not likely that a scope like mine can see it at all since it's very likely very far away and probably no brighter than Neptune.

But as to whether it's strictly ruled out, let's take a best-case scenario for being able to see it. Let's say it's only about 200 AU away. The planet it's probably most similar to in size and overall physical characteristics is Neptune, so let's use Neptune as a proxy for its brightness. Of course Neptune is much closer than 200 AU, so how can we do that? Well you can't just look up an answer or load up a program that will tell you, you have to do the math. We can calculate how bright Neptune would be from 200 AU away using the equations for the magnitude of the planets as published in Volume III of "The Solar System" by Gerard Kuiper in 1953 (as always I like to avoid using NASA data to show that you don't have to depend on what they say - they didn't even exist until 1958). This particular section was written by Daniel Harris.

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Using these numbers, we can plug in the distance of our "Planet X" for an opposition where it is 200 AU from the sun, 199 AU from earth, as a best case scenario on viewing it.

Apparent magnitude = -6.87 + 5*log(200*(200-1))

The answer is that the apparent magnitude in a best case scenario is about magnitude 16.1. That's within reach of my telescope, but this is a very unlikely situation. It is much more likely to be far from perihelion since it would spend most of its thousands of years orbit closer to aphelion. Let's take a more realistic look at what it would be, close to aphelion. For an orbit with a semi-major axis of about 700 AU and eccentricity of about 0.6, aphelion is equal to 1120 AU. Let's use a 1000 AU distance as a nice round number and see what the situation is there.

Apparent magnitude = -6.87 + 5*log(1000*(1000-1))

That equals a whopping magnitude 23.1. That's beyond my telescope's abilities. It's of the order of magnitude that requires phenomenal effort by amateurs to detect; a magnitude 23.1 star is what amateurs used as a "magnitude signpost" when recording one of the dimmest objects ever recorded by an amateur astronomer.
[link to www.itelescope.net]

I hope that puts things in perspective on how difficult things become at that magnitude. It's a bit challenging even for professionals looking for near earth asteroids; they generally can't detect them until they get close enough to reach about magnitude 21 or so at least, about the same magnitude as Sedna ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] ).

Of course the aphelion distance could be even greater than this, so the worst case scenarios (which are much more likely than the best case scenario due to how eccentric orbits work) amateurs won't be able to see it at all since it could be even much dimmer than magnitude 23.
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make sure you send us pics of Planet (7)X as it makes itself visible next to the sun. Say MID FEBRUARY???
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Planet 7X does not exist. I've already looked for it directly using a powerful telescope and infrared sensitive camera. You don't have to go to the southern hemisphere to conduct that search.
Thread: Concluding the Hunt for Gill Broussard's Planet 7X
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Heading to the southern hemisphere tomorrow. I don't know what kind of internet connection I'll have down there, if any at all. As you might have guessed, I do have plans to film, photograph and observe the southern skies while I'm down there (though bringing my main telescope just isn't practical so a widefield short tube refractor is the order of the day). I may or may not have the ability to occasionally post updates before I get back. Try not to completely lose your shit over any fake Nibiru or asteroid doom while I'm gone.
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