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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have letf.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
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Thank you MW!!!
Beautiful.
I am one of the many whose heart is heavy for the loss of such a good and just man as Lavoy Finicum.
May God be with his family and all of those who do and will continue to suffer at the hands of this very corrupt and wicked government and it's minions.
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Thank you MW!!!
Beautiful.
I am one of the many whose heart is heavy for the loss of such a good and just man as Lavoy Finicum.
May God be with his family and all of those who do and will continue to suffer at the hands of this very corrupt and wicked government and it's minions.
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have let.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


Either the truth will be revealed or it will be covered by a bodyguard of lies. That's generally how it works when a situation this sensitive happens. Control of the information will prevent a major uprising, but like with anything else, all plans are subject to failure not matter how minute the details are in terms of covering the truth up.

Nothing is that airtight, not for long at any rate.
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have let.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
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You think they will "let them leave" now?
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have let.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


Either the truth will be revealed or it will be covered by a bodyguard of lies. That's generally how it works when a situation this sensitive happens. Control of the information will prevent a major uprising, but like with anything else, all plans are subject to failure not matter how minute the details are in terms of covering the truth up.

Nothing is that airtight, not for long at any rate.
 Quoting: NobleSix


Speaking of bodyguard...I am suspicious of McConnell.
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have let.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
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You think they will "let them leave" now?
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I don't know what to think, but if they stay, they will be mowed down.
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SHOULD OF JUST ALL OF GONE OUT IN A BLAZE OF GLORY, EYE FOR A EYE
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Things I think the Militia may have learned from this whole scenario:

1. Militia leadership is cointelpro. Leadership is controlled by the federal government, and will never instigate any type of true response to total federal tyranny.

2. Peaceful protest like the one carried out by Bundy and Finicum produce no benefits to the cause of freedom, and only work to increase the police state.

3. State and Federal police will not try to arrest you, they will instead attempt to murder you before you can even surrender to arrest.

4. No matter what you say or do, the state controlled media will depict you as either evil and or stupid, the two defamation tactics they have always used. Do not believe that you can win a media war against the media masters.

5. Soft targets produce greater returns on investment of resources.

6. No law enforcement or military personnel can be trusted.

7. Always travel heavily armed and with people who are also completely prepared to die defending themselves from police execution squads.

If they have learned these things, I'm gravely concerned for our country. We will have bloodshed and an interruption of critical services across the country. Civil liberties, already at their lowest point since the founding of this nation, will be totally eliminated. We will live in a 100% police state, disappearances, summary executions and constant informing/spying will be common like in all other prior totalitarian police states.

We have to find a way to avoid these outcomes. Peace must prevail.
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Thank you, PIR. The girls were going there to sing at the meeting.
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Things I think the Militia may have learned from this whole scenario:

1. Militia leadership is cointelpro. Leadership is controlled by the federal government, and will never instigate any type of true response to total federal tyranny.

2. Peaceful protest like the one carried out by Bundy and Finicum produce no benefits to the cause of freedom, and only work to increase the police state.

3. State and Federal police will not try to arrest you, they will instead attempt to murder you before you can even surrender to arrest.

4. No matter what you say or do, the state controlled media will depict you as either evil and or stupid, the two defamation tactics they have always used. Do not believe that you can win a media war against the media masters.

5. Soft targets produce greater returns on investment of resources.

6. No law enforcement or military personnel can be trusted.

7. Always travel heavily armed and with people who are also completely prepared to die defending themselves from police execution squads.

If they have learned these things, I'm gravely concerned for our country. We will have bloodshed and an interruption of critical services across the country. Civil liberties, already at their lowest point since the founding of this nation, will be totally eliminated. We will live in a 100% police state, disappearances, summary executions and constant informing/spying will be common like in all other prior totalitarian police states.

We have to find a way to avoid these outcomes. Peace must prevail.
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SHOULD OF JUST ALL OF GONE OUT IN A BLAZE OF GLORY, EYE FOR A EYE
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Powerful video!! Thank you for sharing!
My heart aches and tears fall...God bless him, LaVoy Finicum, a truly good man!!!
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have let.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


You think they will "let them leave" now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60499354


I don't know what to think, but if they stay, they will be mowed down.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


It will be a bloodbath should the place not be evacuated. Their numbers are small. Their opposition has the number, weapons, tech, support, and motivation to carry out their mission objectives should they get the green-light.
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"Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05

"Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off."

"These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo

"Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men."

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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have letf.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
:jc1122:

[link to www.freecapitalist.com]

The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
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It is entirely plausible that this Sheriff was USED by the FBI and left out of the loop. I don't know, but would like an answer from him as well!
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Robert "LaVoy" Finicum will be testifying before the Lord on Judgment Day,

that all "government" criminals involved,

may be thrown into the Lake of Fire for all eternity.


Too Sweet !


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Freedom….oh how sweet!

Liberty….not quite the same as freedom.

Liberty covers all persons involved, and freedom is more of a personal thing.

Liberty can be thought of as freedom limited by rights, and therefore cannot be abused.

In the case of USA/America, liberty is only achievable with “limited government”, that has at its roots, Bible Principles and laws.

America has allowed the government to balloon out of control with many layers of bureaucracy and therefore corruption on every level.

That bureaucratic “ballooned “ government has, at the least, become secular, if not downright evil. Therefore; “liberty” is on the brink of total destruction and elimination.

This potus election cycle may be the last chance at getting back some liberty, or we can watch it fade into the sunset.

The same government, has tried to eliminate “freedom”.
They can bury it six feet deep, but they can never kill it.

Freedom comes from our Creator by His authority and jurisdiction of, inalienable rights. We must never forget that important fact, and remind liberal governments of such, as we continue to strive for a life of freedom.


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I feel sadness, deep sadness. it could have been prevented ...
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This will be the last thread I will be doing on this tragedy.
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Thank gawd.
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I do not believe Palmer was aware of the plan to execute Finicum. I am doubtful if he was even aware of the plan to make the stop. There is NO evidence that he initiated the meeting to lure the leadership from the refuge. If anyone has any EVIDENCE that Palmer was involved in the plan to lure the leadership into that trap, present it, but stop with the simple inferences that the leadership were going to meet with Palmer, therefore Palmer set them up. That just doesn't hold water, and is convincing no one. Palmer is a constitutional sheriff, strongly supportive of our civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution, the plan to discredit him is clear.

Ward was aware of the plan to "arrest" the leadership on the road, though now he may have have figured out it actually was a hit and he was used.
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I want to know the truth about what really happened during the ambush of those occupying the Oregon Wildlife Refuge.

I want to say, also, those still occupying should leave and save their lives, so they can tell their stories.

I want to say when the townspeople of Harney County asked them to leave, the occupiers should have left.

When the Paiute Indians asked them to leave, they should have letf.

I understand what they were trying to do, but it never had a chance of working, as Harney County has been bought out by the Government.

The Sheriff they thought they could trust, Glenn Palmer, the Constitutionalist Sheriff, has been bought and paid for, too.

This ambush was a setup, and it worked. What do we have now: a dead father and a good man, and a group of good people who will spend their lives in prison.

I pray God works miracles for them...in the name of Jesus.
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The above read is a long one, but once you start reading, you will not want to stop. Thus, you will know the most truth you can know about this tragic loss for all the lover's of liberty all over the world. By the way, this author has visited the group at the Refuge.

LINK:I’ve already gone on record regarding my thoughts on the protest, on Ammon, and last night I did a Periscope broadcast related to the tragic death of LaVoy, along with the arrest of Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, and others. But, as the news has filtered out today, in both the mainstream and the alternative media I have been alarmed at the false accounts, hearsay accounts, and speculation regarding the events of that night.

Since I was not a witness to the arrest and shooting yesterday, I too have spent time scouring the Internet for the latest word and updates. But, by this morning a disturbing and intolerable pattern had started to emerge and I cannot sit silently. Here’s why – during my visit to meet and interview these men, I not only made contact and got to know them, I was also able to observe the workings and activities at the Refuge. While I was there I observed, what now appears to be a portion of the sabotage that lead directly to the ambush, arrest, shooting and ultimately the murder of LaVoy.
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It is entirely plausible that this Sheriff was USED by the FBI and left out of the loop. I don't know, but would like an answer from him as well!
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Of course, you are right.
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I do not believe Palmer was aware of the plan to execute Finicum. I am doubtful if he was even aware of the plan to make the stop. There is NO evidence that he initiated the meeting to lure the leadership from the refuge. If anyone has any EVIDENCE that Palmer was involved in the plan to lure the leadership into that trap, present it, but stop with the simple inferences that the leadership were going to meet with Palmer, therefore Palmer set them up. That just doesn't hold water, and is convincing no one. Palmer is a constitutional sheriff, strongly supportive of our civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution, the plan to discredit him is clear.

Ward was aware of the plan to "arrest" the leadership on the road, though now he may have have figured out it actually was a hit and he was used.
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If true, too fucking bad for him - too late too! Hopefully the people will rally for new immediate elections and get a better person to fill the shoes of being Sheriff!
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They straight up ambushed him. LaVoy would've surrendered to the first Agent, but he got surprised by the one at his six.

Self-preservation kicked in. At least that's my POV. Imagine the sirens, yelling, high adrenaline rush, totally overwhelmed.
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I do not believe Palmer was aware of the plan to execute Finicum. I am doubtful if he was even aware of the plan to make the stop. There is NO evidence that he initiated the meeting to lure the leadership from the refuge. If anyone has any EVIDENCE that Palmer was involved in the plan to lure the leadership into that trap, present it, but stop with the simple inferences that the leadership were going to meet with Palmer, therefore Palmer set them up. That just doesn't hold water, and is convincing no one. Palmer is a constitutional sheriff, strongly supportive of our civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution, the plan to discredit him is clear.

Ward was aware of the plan to "arrest" the leadership on the road, though now he may have have figured out it actually was a hit and he was used.
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Well said.





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