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why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?

 
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why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
or is the racial brotherhood more important to them?
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Do you hate blacks and arabs too?
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la raza, gringo
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Americans favor killing ourselves and replacing us with foreigners.
De facto fact.
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
Ok, I guess I'm baited... because now I wonder what are the perceptions of xenophobes who go around with this shit.

Is it the usual pablum that immigrants are taking our jobs (the the grape-picking industry... work most Americans would rather go homeless than do)?

Where I live... (and I admit perhaps I live in some kind of utopia)...

the illegals tend to work hard and stay out of trouble. Sure, 10 of them might be living in a one-bedroom apartment... and their idea of recreation is drinking cans of Miller Lite in their cars in the parking lot of home depot, but they don't cause many problems.

Never seen a Hispanic (legal or not) begging at an intersection or accosting people in front of 7-11.

The money they cost in terms of services is trivial compared to what we waste on political pork projects. They pay sales taxes. Many pay social security taxes they'll never get back.

No it's not true they can go apply for welfare. It's not that easy even for a native American.

I remember some idiot xenophobe like OP saying he was better off moving to mexico and renouncing US citizenship so he could illegally sneak back here and live a good life on the dole. My thought was... good luck with that.
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
I bet I know the issue...

OP just doesn't feel comfortable with people that aren't like him... engaging in culture that offends his hillbilly tastes for trailer parks and McDonalds.

All those damn immigrants and their tacorias probably reminds him that whites aren't officially at the top of the heap, anymore (but let's face it, we are).

In all actuality, life has probably passed OP by, because he wasted highschool sniffing glue and beating up queers. 30 years old and no educated, he needs some justification for not owning the nice car on TV... well, besides his lack of well-paid skills.

Hey OP... I don't see many illegals working the counter at Wendy's so there's always that.
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in a way hes right and in a way you're wrong, illegals who come here to receive government benefits(mostly thru having an american born child)
ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM.

I would welcome anyone that can show they know what this country stands and what it means to be free.
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Jus soli is a gray area.

Can you prove the children of illegals become citizens?

According to this...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it only applies to the children of non-citizens who are in the country legally
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
I believe there is USSC decision that states anyone born withing the territorial boundaries of the 50 states is a citizen.
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Yet I can find no proof of it

[link to federalistblog.us]
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
I bet I know the issue...

OP just doesn't feel comfortable with people that aren't like him... engaging in culture that offends his hillbilly tastes for trailer parks and McDonalds.

All those damn immigrants and their tacorias probably reminds him that whites aren't officially at the top of the heap, anymore (but let's face it, we are).

In all actuality, life has probably passed OP by, because he wasted highschool sniffing glue and beating up queers. 30 years old and no educated, he needs some justification for not owning the nice car on TV... well, besides his lack of well-paid skills.

Hey OP... I don't see many illegals working the counter at Wendy's so there's always that.
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Insulting opinions like this are repulsive.

I say this because every generation of man, since the great wars, have been able to move forward and try to establish themselves into a new and better way of life.

Unfortunately, many of those who arrived first are too selfish to allow the ne3comers to have a chance (like they did). Sad, selfish, sorry...humanity sux
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ne3comers*
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
I believe there is USSC decision that states anyone born withing the territorial boundaries of the 50 states is a citizen.
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Just to get all technical on you... that's strictly wrong.

The children of foreign diplomats born in the US do not become citizens.

The children (hypothetically) of foreign invaders do not become citizens.

But we're talking about anchor babies, right? The best I can find is that they become citizens only if there parents are here lawfully.

And I'd bet you $1, women 8-months pregnant are denied visas when they try to enter.
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
The problem is the immigrants are living in what Karl Rove calls a "reality based" world where they see things pretty much the way they really are. Most Americans live in a Rovian fantasy world where they see things the way they're "told" they are.

Stop listening to the radio or watching TV and soon you'll be able to see the real world too.

I love it how some of my friends tried to tell me that "aliens" are causing all the economic woes of this country. After Bush has slashed social programs by more than 40% and local govts have lost most of their federal funding so they have to close schools and libraries and fire depts, the average wage in America dropped by 35% since Bush took office and yet the wealthy have seen the greatest increase in their wealth in history, up 300% in just four years, and the country has squandered a trillion dollar surplus and is in debt by 400 billion not even counting the 400 billion spent so far on Iraq.

It's hysterical, some fat millionaire on the radio tells people their money is being stolen by those poor people over there, see them? the ones who are living ten in a room and are practically starving ? They're taking your community's money, not the BushCo corporate fraud and big business entitlements, like a two hundred billion dollar windfall in tax breaks for the OIL COMPANIES!

No... it's those poor people...

how stupid can you be?
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Yet I can find no proof of it

[link to federalistblog.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 159726


Because you were looking in the wrong places, and you don't have a clue what you're talking about:

[link to www.vdare.com]

[link to www.theamericanresistance.com]

[link to www.cairco.org]
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Re: why are hispanics intellectually incapable of understanding that illegals destroy this country?
"The only recognized means for non-Americans to come under US jurisdiction for purposes of citizenship under the US Constitution is through the process of naturalization, which among other things requires an oath of allegiance to the United States. Sen. Reverdy Johnson said as much when debating the citizenship clause in the Senate: "And I know no mode by which an alien can become a citizen of the United States except under the naturalization laws of the United States."


It's a shame they (illegals) can't take the oath in English.
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And besides; they need to understand that using underarm deodorants, don't require them to compromise their ethnic pride ! kissup
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or is the racial brotherhood more important to them?
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Most American Hispanics, who got here the right way long before the "Illegal" problem started, are against Illegal immigration because they know the Illegals will destroy everything they worked for as well as making them look bad in the eyes of everyone else.

The "Hispanic Americans" you see on TV supporting Illegal Immigration are mouthpieces for the Ford Foundation, Mecha and La Raza and do not represent the majority of American Hispanics.

As for the Mecha and La Raza types posting on here, ask yourselves this question;

"If you hate gringo and whitey so much, why is the Ford Foundation, run by whitey, New World Order types, funding your organization?"

Don't you know you're being manipulated and used by the Globalists as fools and tools to destroy the U.S.?
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Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
 Quoting: StatueOfLiberty


Maybe it should be amended to exclude the poor?
Ave Gæ , morituri te salutamus!
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OP...because their families are hungry!
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 1Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home By J. Michael Waller Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill. That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are: •in the country legally; •have the means to sustain themselves economically; •not destined to be burdens on society; •of economic and social benefit to society; •of good character and have no criminal records; and •contributors to the general well-being of the nation. The law also ensures that: •immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor; •foreign visitors do not violate their visa status; •foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics; •foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported; •foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported; •those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison. Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens – and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy. It is an interesting law – and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 2We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let’s lookat Mexico’s main immigration law. Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:•Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32) •Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34) •Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37) •The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38) Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:•Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73) •A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86) •A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91). Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:•Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116) •Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116) Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:•Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117) •Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 3•Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico – such as working with out a permit – can also be imprisoned. Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,•“A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123) •Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125) •Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will bedeported. (Article 126) Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:•A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127) •Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132) All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States. Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model. [1] “Mexico’s Glass House,” Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper, April 3, 2006.
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 1Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home By J. Michael Waller Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill. That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are: •in the country legally; •have the means to sustain themselves economically; •not destined to be burdens on society; •of economic and social benefit to society; •of good character and have no criminal records; and •contributors to the general well-being of the nation. The law also ensures that: •immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor; •foreign visitors do not violate their visa status; •foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics; •foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported; •foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported; •those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison. Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens – and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy. It is an interesting law – and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 2We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let’s lookat Mexico’s main immigration law. Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:•Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32) •Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34) •Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37) •The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38) Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:•Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73) •A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86) •A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91). Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:•Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116) •Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116) Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:•Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117) •Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 3•Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico – such as working with out a permit – can also be imprisoned. Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,•“A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123) •Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125) •Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will bedeported. (Article 126) Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:•A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127) •Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132) All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States. Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model. [1] “Mexico’s Glass House,” Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper, April 3, 2006.
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I'm no stinky ...here's the linky:

[link to 66.102.7.104]
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I thought i was gonna have to go searching for the court case but you peeps have handled him already, Goofy Thum
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If you step on ant hills , you have to live with the ants .....

They try to scape the missery American economics created in the first place ..

American politics implanted ...

And american greed disseminated...

Amen!

Idol1
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If you step on ant hills , you have to live with the ants .....

They try to scape the missery American economics created in the first place ..

American politics implanted ...

And american greed disseminated...

Amen!

Idol1
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hahaha, you have no idea how long I have been trying to drive this point home here on GLP. American foreign policy in south and central america for the last 50 years has created the illegal alien problem.


very myopic and hipocritical on the part of many of my fellow "countrymen".
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I've been to many states, but never the west coast.

Heck, even El Paso sounds better than what you guys say LA is. Is life imitating "Escape from LA" down there?

Or you guys are just intolerant of other cultures and dwell on to minor things? Personally, I consider MECHA a joke... but I can see how you'd play it up, if it rbustedrced your racist worldview.
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BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID AN THEY WANT ANOTHER WAR.
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tell you what im gonna start a thread on the backlash against american foreign policy in central and south america with plenty of sourcing to boot.

put up or shut up
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let us not forget history is always in the making...

see that part of your history book where the US bought the southwest of itself from Mexico? think it can't change up again? think you live in a stable future?

hahahah great material thanks OP for such an interesting start.

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