Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?

It's probably you since you're so righteous, saintly and pure.

Of course not. Do not be evil..

Monotheism,

Who forgives sins?



Another tough question...

God does of course. But Jesus didn't act in his own behalf as he clearly said. And neither did his disciples.

John 20:21-23

21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

Wow!

Surprised you know this, and Peter, and Timothy in the NT didn't know it.

Plus none of the early church in the book of acts knew it.

You know what this means right?

It means the early church under a super heavy anointing, like happened with Ananias and Sapphira, could not discern Paul was a false Christian, that he was not born again, thus they were duped.

Yet you have been able to discern this truth, and you never even met Paul.


Man now that is some heavy Christianity your packing.

But not only this...

What is even more astonishing, is that out of all the bible scholars, translators, commentators, pastors, and laymen, throughout the ages, who have been amazed at the writings of Paul, yet YOU found Paul out.

What are the odds of that happening?

I mean your brilliance, out shined them all.

Last Edited by itbeme on 02/05/2016 11:19 PM

Even a saint like you?

The Jews understood what He was saying.

Why don't you?




And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.

And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.

Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I and my Father are one.

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

By that logic that makes Marcion anointed too. Would that be Peter the apostle of the gentiles of Acts, or Peter the apostle of the circumcised of the Epistles?

OK... why do you say that?



"Saint" = "believer in Jesus Christ", right.

Thanks for your witness.

Really?

John 8:43-44
Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. he devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I was just being childish like you are. A saint keeps the commandments.

Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Revelation 14:12

Are you aware these events occured over many years. Peter was sent to the Roman soldier, many years after Paul was sent to the Greeks. You take sentences, without any context. Think of Acts as a history. The epistles written to certain churches for specific reasons. The epistles were not written to us, but we can derive truths from them.

Yes.

Really.

I actually had a specific passage in mind, in Galatians 2, where the Jerusalem council is directly referenced. Peter is called:

On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,[a] just as Peter had been to the circumcised

As opposed to Peter's own words as narrated in Acts:

“Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe

The exact opposite.

Knew? They entrusted him with a simple task. To deliver a letter of decrees.

Wow!

Surprised you know this, and Peter, and Timothy in the NT didn't know it.

Plus none of the early church in the book of acts knew it.

You know what this means right?

It means the early church under a super heavy anointing, like happened with Ananias and Sapphira, could not discern Paul was a false Christian, that he was not born again, thus they were duped.

Yet you have been able to discern this truth, and you never even met Paul.


Man now that is some heavy Christianity your packing.

But not only this...

What is even more astonishing, is that out of all the bible scholars, translators, commentators, pastors, and laymen, throughout the ages, who have been amazed at the writings of Paul, yet YOU found Paul out.

What are the odds of that happening?

I mean your brilliance, out shined them all.

And many years apart. Peter related the story regarding the Roman , but nowhere does it say he was called to travel to gentile countries. Why is this a problem? To me it seems like you are trying to find problems where none exist.

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A lot of early Christians and Messianic Jews rejected Paul, and called him an apostate of the law. That's hardly a secret. And many still do it today. What did Peter ask of Paul in Jerusalem?

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People for a Long time have thought the world flat .. And you Christopher Columbus are a Wild man for trying to Sail .. You will fall of the flat earth !!

No I Won't , I'm gonna find America ;)

Who, the ones that were afraid of him? And spare me the revelations quote about rejecting false teachers, Paul was long dead.

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They are ignorant to church history , and They think NT tells perfectly What happened nothing else could have happened and nothing left out lol and all the contradictions aren't really .. Lol

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Don't even . Rev could have been written Right alongside the time of Paul

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The council of Jerusalem is directly referenced.

Galatians 2:10
10 All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.

vs

Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell.

You reject the NT. Revelations was written by John when he was an old man. I am sure you can find someone that says otherwise, just like it's not hard to find people that think Noah is a myth.