Why this is not the year of Jubilee(50th year).. but is the 49th year...the year before judgment

Wrong.

You don't count 360 things and then say it equals *zero*

Starting at zero only happens in computers because they count the zero space as a space.

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From op link:

Elijah said to Rav Y’huda the brother of Rav Sala the Pious: “The world will exist for no less than eighty-five jubilees [that is, 4250 years], and in the last jubilee the Son of David will come.” He asked him: “In its beginning or at its end?” He answered: “I do not know.” [Rav Y’huda then asked:] “Will it [the last jubilee] be complete or not?” He said to him: “I do not know.” Rav Ashi said; “This is what Elijah told him; ‘Until the last jubilee expect him not; from then on expect him.’” Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 97b[14]

Welcome back to my thread ole' man...21 days impressive..lol..why do you think you can't stop following me...because it is your destiny...lol

To raise one up like moses....what was moses? A reluctant civil leader...reminds me of the year 1978...so what had to happen...a relation was sent to be the high priest(aaron)...reminds me of Joshua the high priest and Zerrubabel the civil leader or better known as the "two anointed" who stand on the left and right of the lord...lol

Why couldn't moses circumsize his 2nd born and his wife(partner) had to do it?...Because it represented the end times and the circumcision will be of the heart done by the other witness because it is not the first witnesses place

Exodus 4:25:

King James Bible
Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.


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Who is the high priest?..the teacher of righteousness and colleague to the king.

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From the above dialogue it appears we're meant to expect the Messiah to either come on the First Day of the Jubilee Year or on the Last Day of the Jubilee year.

I believe the confusion of not knowing whether the Lord would come on the first or last day of the Jubilee Year stems from the following verse:

"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks [that is, 49 Years]..." [Dan.9:25][NASB]

The decree was issued on the 28th of June 1967, after which seven weeks of 49 Years of 360 Days each, expired on the 14th of October 2015. The above verse is telling us that after 49 Years of 360 Days, the Messiah the Prince will come for His Bride, the Remnant Church. We now know that the First Day of the Jubilee Year fell on the 15th of October 2015. And the Messiah the Prince certainly did not come on that Day! Which means we can watch with great anticipation for the Messiah the Prince to come for us no later than on the 8th of October 2016, which is the Last Day of the Jubilee Year. That Day is also the Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles according to the Creator's Calendar!!!

[link to thecreatorscalendar.com]

Moses was a lot more than a reluctant civil servant. He was God's beloved prophet and his personal friend.

You were following me around long before I was following you. You always use that as an excuse to make yourself as a leader instead of a follower. That is all you have always been my friend, a follower. You wasn't called first, or ever as far as that goes..for you are without any confirmation from any witness as to who you profess yourself to be. No visions in the eyes of God's servants of your future calling, no words of your future purpose by any entity, no prophesy or visions given by many about you.. waiting to be fulfilled. God doesn't choose/reveal his servants' without his confirmation, of two or three witnesses...never has, never will.

As far as posting on your thread just to follow you that is far from the truth. It was not for that purpose, but to acknowledge the truth of the comments made by AC 70400. So don't seek to flatter yourself. It truly is not my ambition or the Lord's will for me to follow after the directions of false teachings toward oneself gratification in manipulating the scripture toward a lie.

As far as the Teacher of Righteousness is concerned you wouldn't recognize him if he were to personally prophesy to you..lol.

There is a civil leader and a high priest in the volume of the book. I already know which one you are and which one you are not. That's why there are 2 witnesses as the millennial kingdom is governed by king david and the other witness the high priest......the teacher of righteousness is the "priest"

Joseph can't be seen by his brothers but he can see them...so who is going to give him conformation?..The volume of the book gives him conformation...lol

Waterman, Judah and Ephraim is in these verses are discussing tribes, nations and purposes of such entities in God's plan. It is not determining in this certain case the outcome of two specific individuals as you assume.

Waterman, you always have a convenient excuse why you are this or that. Joseph saw long before anyone one else recognized his positioned thru fasting and prayer and God's revelation. To seek to change the mind of someone who was accorded that opportunity and then call God a liar to satisfy your twisted need to be someone is never going to alter what was originally revealed.

Believe as you will but that still will never make it the truth. No one is going to come and bow down to you in the future, in recognition of your greatness and you're not going to be the greatest of all men as you falsely believe. You are delusional because you are deceived by the lies of the enemy.

Until you realize that it is God and not oneself who is to be exalted and dutifully served you will never escape your mindful prison of self desired recognition and self glorification. Wake up to the realization you are not one of the two witnesses and stop making a claim about my future position. No clarification from a man is necessary only God can confirm or deny a position, who are you to assume his confirmation beforehand, without any evidence from him toward you.

Waterman, I know you are not going to listen to me bc you are convinced of something that is not true. Consider your wrongful motive. It is about your own boasting and not about the glorification of God's greater purpose for his beloved ones. You seek to be all things you're not. You seek and claim to be Joseph, Elijah, the Teacher of Righteousness, Jacob, Job, even maybe Jesus himself, who knows as self adsorbed with yourself as you are. I Feel very sorry for you waterman, but pride in oneself is the enemies greatest asset toward the frailty of mans' downfall.

We will see who is correct in the end friend

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You will indeed friend, "see who is correct". I believe I already have been correctly informed and interpreted who/what I am purposed for in the soon times to come..lol.

Nevertheless, it is a free country to believe as you will. However, it is not always wise in a final judgement to do so wrongly when it comes to the point of taking such a high risk. In my case I have nothing to lose, I will still appear in good standing, as you well know, not so much for you if you are wrong. If I was a betting man I would be very confident I was right in the calculation of the accumulated evidence already revealed beforehand...lol.

However, as I have stated many times before believe as you will, but when you realize you was wrong then is when you will discover the enemy has deceived you. Then your pride or the lack thereof, will determine how your life in its finality will end. I pray it will be for the better. Nevertheless, I fear for you, simply from your sibling's past heavenly vision concerning you and its possible meaning therein.

Just between me you and the three people who read this thread we both know you are not the 2nd born but the 2nd born with firstborn birthright will be able to see who you are before anyone else

As far as being seen in visioms and dreams I already know Joseph won't be able to be seen so it concerns me none....lol


And yes it is nice living in the 2nd born nation house of joseph/Ephraim or also known the feminine Israel as we know there are two israels(I'm talking nations not witnesses)....lol


As far as you being a betting man I've seen your scorecard and you're not good at it....lol


How much faith does it take when you have nothing to lose because of all the confirmations you needed....I guess as much faith as you had....im all in with no conformations because I know what I am reading is correct





Posting on the run as usual so ignore spelling errors...lol

Have a good night

My friend the first-born of many brothers and the first-born among the dead is Jesus (Judah,) [Rom.8:29 & 1Cor.1:18KJV.] The second-born afterwards is Israel, whom God (Jesus) called his first-born [Exod.4:22KJV!] Until you understand that, your deception shall remain. It was not God the Father who called Israel his first-born, but the second Godhead (Jesus) called Israel/Ephraim) that. It was this Godhead (Jesus) that delivered the Jews from pharaoh even naming himself before Moses.. as, I AM.

Waterman, there is a thin line between faith and stupidity, and I believe you crossed that line a long time ago. You add and subtract so many words from the scriptures you take from its true meaning and destined purpose. Then you come up with your own interpretation of your own words and then proclaim your new version of the Word. It doesn't work that way just because you say/think so.

I ask for no confirmation to verify my belief in God, but only to justify my lack of knowledge as to his calling for me.

Having no confirmation is not pleasing in God's sight. God always makes the effort to confirm his promises to his servants. Otherwise as in your case, man could boast it is/was thru his own works that he shall manifest the truth of his own reading/direction by/thru his own understanding. This will and has always wrongly caused discord among the brethren throughout the history of the Word. It is not by our own might that God directs us but thru discernment of his conformation thru him, and thru witnesses he chooses.

My friend you're not Joseph, you just think you are..lol. Men can see him in visions and still not understand the meaning of it. Only Joseph comprehends what God has manifest to him alone. Nothing has been manifest to you from God. Only the manifestation you seek to gain is brought about thru your own conjured understanding of your own self distorted words.

You haven't seen my scorecard lately. Recently I won $4,000.00 playing with only $2.00.

I am going to discontinue this ridiculous conversation with you now because my little dog just died and I had to go bury her. So my thoughts are now elsewhere.

You also have a good night waterman.

Yo waterman,

When do you think this messiah Ben Joseph shows up on the world stage? Seems like time is running short.

My friend the first-born of many brothers and the first-born among the dead is Jesus (Judah,) [Rom.8:29 & 1Cor.1:18KJV.] The second-born afterwards is Israel, whom God (Jesus) called his first-born [Exod.4:22KJV!] Until you understand that, your deception shall remain. It was not God the Father who called Israel his first-born, but the second Godhead (Jesus) called Israel/Ephraim) that. It was this Godhead (Jesus) that delivered the Jews from pharaoh even naming himself before Moses.. as, I AM.

Waterman, there is a thin line between faith and stupidity, and I believe you crossed that line a long time ago. You add and subtract so many words from the scriptures you take from its true meaning and destined purpose. Then you come up with your own interpretation of your own words and then proclaim your new version of the Word. It doesn't work that way just because you say/think so.

I ask for no confirmation to verify my belief in God, but only to justify my lack of knowledge as to his calling for me.

Having no confirmation is not pleasing in God's sight. God always makes the effort to confirm his promises to his servants. Otherwise as in your case, man could boast it is/was thru his own works that he shall manifest the truth of his own reading/direction by/thru his own understanding. This will and has always wrongly caused discord among the brethren throughout the history of the Word. It is not by our own might that God directs us but thru discernment of his conformation thru him, and thru witnesses he chooses.

My friend you're not Joseph, you just think you are..lol. Men can see him in visions and still not understand the meaning of it. Only Joseph comprehends what God has manifest to him alone. Nothing has been manifest to you from God. Only the manifestation you seek to gain is brought about thru your own conjured understanding of your own self distorted words.

You haven't seen my scorecard lately. Recently I won $4,000.00 playing with only $2.00.

I am going to discontinue this ridiculous conversation with you now because my little dog just died and I had to go bury her. So my thoughts are now elsewhere.

You also have a good night waterman.

You try to be firstborn and second born. You try to be both anointed Zerrubabel and high priest joshua...if you are that then you are also moses and high priest aaron..you are simply the civil leader and sceptre holder..the other witness is the birthright holder and high priest. You mourn over a simple dog and yet try to convince your own son he is a betrayer and going to hell. Get your priorities straight man your fruits are lacking. Joseph forgives Judah and both are saved. You are Adam not eve...Judah not joseph...Zerrubabel not joshua...Moses not aaron...etc

Psalm 55 tells us they share sweet counsel and the betrayer is the guide...you were the guide..Wake up man...Wake up


12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:

13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.


David is from the line of judah...the other witness is from the line of joseph(Ezekiel 37)


Look at the lines...David can't come from the line of joseph..kings come from the line of judah...WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!

No one will steal your position but first you have to know what your position is and that position is simply king

There are two princes of Israel because there are 2 Israels(two families) Jeremiah 33:24:

King James Bible
Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

How do you deny David is king when Ezekiel 37 tells us david"THE SERVANT" is king....Jesus is no longer a servant at this time so it isn't talking about Jesus being little "k" king

Ezekiel 37:
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

Hosea 3:5:

5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days

There are two princes of Israel and the first prince is Joseph as we see he is taken to Egypt just as Joseph was and is confirmed in Ezekiel 37 the two sticks because Joseph is the forerunner to David(Judah):

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Ezek 19:

Ezekiel 19

1And you, take up a lamentation for the princes of Israel, 2and say: What was your mother? A lioness! Among lions she crouched; in the midst of young lions she reared her cubs. 3And she brought up one of her cubs; he became a young lion, and he learned to catch prey; he devoured men. 4The nations heard about him; he was caught in their pit, and they brought him with hooks to the land of Egypt. 5When she saw that she waited in vain, that her hope was lost, she took another of her cubs and made him a young lion. 6He prowled among the lions; he became a young lion, and he learned to catch prey; he devoured men,


Once the age of grace is over the levitic and davidic covenant will be back in effect just as Jeremiah and Ezekiel show otherwise they would be false prophets...this is done because in the beginning of the book the first born and second born are promised to have dominion over everything on earth and in the end the firstborn will have the kingship and the second born will have the priesthood for the millennium and as there is already a priesthood on earth(levitic) if Jesus was here he couldn't even be a priest so he will rule from heaven.

hebrews 8:4
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

So yes there are covenants and promises left yet to fulfill the levitic and davidic are promised to last as long as the sun and moon and that will be the last 1000 years until a new heaven and new earth are created...the age of grace was a pause but the levitic and davidic will be reinstated and those two witnesses will have dominion just as promised at the beginning of the book

David can't be the high priest or it would no longer be a levitic priesthood it would be a melchelzedek priesthood and that is reserved for Jesus in heaven as the things of heaven are higher than the things of earth so the other witness who is 2nd born and has the firstborn birthright will fill that position and there will be a representative of the kingship(david) and representative of the priesthood(Joseph) on earth

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On 12/27/15 you left me karma saying "king" david and Joseph are the same man...it will be easy to spot it is the red karma...lol


Kings come from Judah not joseph...but again you did say "king david"

A prince comes from Israel/Joseph (same family lineage.) We are not seeking after a king in these circumstances but a prince of Israel. The two witnesses are not two princes, but one prince and one who proclaims God's program to come.

There are not two princes, and king David was recognized as king David throughout his reign. It isn't a misinterpretation of who David was in his title at the time, as verified by the Word for those days.

Get some sleep waterman you'll feel better and face the reality of who you really are in a clearer light of such a realization..lol. A hint of the two words who you really are, starts with the word "false" or possibly "wicked"..lol.

Not appointed to wrath, means God won't be mad at them, right?

Wicked also means illegitament and is the correct translation if the king also thinks he is the high priest...can't mix those friend or the levitic priesthood becomes melchelzedek priesthood and the promise of the levitic priesthood is not fulfilled......think of the things of God and not the things of men friend...all scripture has to be fullfilled

Joseph's head was The NZR or Nazoraion who was Yehoshua The Nazor-aion
Gen 49:26
The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting (olam in Hebrew aion in greek = Nazor aion) hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate (NZR) from his brethren.

Joseph feed the world with grain or bread, his head, the crown head was the bread of life.

waterman,

You're all mixed up. You are confused by mixing 360 day years with 365 day years.

17,640 days in Jewish years = 49 years
17,640 days in Gregorian years = 48 Years, 3 Months, 16 Days

Even if you count June 7, 1967 as the start of the Jewish calendar which ought to be, Daniel's prophecy regards a decree to restore Jerusalem and then to begin keeping count at that point.

So it is easy to be confused if we don't consider all the facts, like for instance Jesus says nothing is impossible WITH God and yet later it is stated that some are impossible to return to God. How do we reason the impossible and possible? For that person it is impossible to return to God but someone can pray for that person and Jesus can save that person for their sake.

In the same way there is a command from God to begin to keep a calendar when they come into possession of the land (in any way) and then there is his prophecy given to Daniel to begin to keep a calendar when they come into possession of the land BY DECREE.

So when we reason all of the facts together we have to admit there are multiple calendars. But the prophetic one is the most important for anyone who is looking forward to the Messiah, therefore for that person that calendar trumps all other calendars.

Thread: PROOF of RAPTURE IMMINENT May 21 (twenty first)

Wicked also means illegitament and is the correct translation if the king also thinks he is the high priest...can't mix those friend or the levitic priesthood becomes melchelzedek priesthood and the promise of the levitic priesthood is not fulfilled......think of the things of God and not the things of men friend...all scripture has to be fullfilled

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