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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44548263 United States 02/08/2016 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yes, that is true, God has allowed the current governments to exist, so we're required to abide by those laws. He doesn't explicitly say though that we're not allowed to criticize the government that's in place, just that we obligated to obey the laws else suffer the consequences. |
LOOBY User ID: 65475225 Canada 02/08/2016 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is tricky - what to do when Cesar oversteps his bounds into God's territory? Same Answer. Resist not Evil Perhaps to Question it is Ok though. Ellul is good source for Christains to ponder politics with. Ellul identified himself as a Christian Anarchist. Ellul explained his view in this way: "By anarchy I mean first an absolute rejection of violence."[38] And, "...Jesus was not only a socialist but an anarchist – and I want to stress here that I regard anarchism as the fullest and most serious form of socialism."[39] For him, this meant that nation-states, as the primary sources of violence in the modern era, should neither be praised nor feared, but continually questioned and challenged. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Last Edited by John Parsons on 02/08/2016 02:07 PM 7 Off / Pull iT |
BunBun User ID: 70719364 United States 02/08/2016 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explain that to the Muslims. The only law they acknowledge is Sharia law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44548263 But yes, that is true, God has allowed the current governments to exist, so we're required to abide by those laws. He doesn't explicitly say though that we're not allowed to criticize the government that's in place, just that we obligated to obey the laws else suffer the consequences. Exactly. Which is why I will be suffering the consequences. God help me. Christard and Lover of God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1898275 United States 02/08/2016 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that was the case Jesus could have stayed home. Cooperating or tolerating evil makes Christianity unnecessary. Christianity was about not supporting evil or evildoers, it was about resistence to ev il, not establishing evil as an authority. |
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BunBun User ID: 70719364 United States 02/08/2016 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that was the case Jesus could have stayed home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898275 Cooperating or tolerating evil makes Christianity unnecessary. Christianity was about not supporting evil or evildoers, it was about resistence to ev il, not establishing evil as an authority. God puts in those who are in power and He can take them out. It is God's decision, not ours. We only think that we are making the choice. It is done in Heaven. Christard and Lover of God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69519719 United States 02/08/2016 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that was the case Jesus could have stayed home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898275 Cooperating or tolerating evil makes Christianity unnecessary. Christianity was about not supporting evil or evildoers, it was about resistence to ev il, not establishing evil as an authority. God puts in those who are in power and He can take them out. It is God's decision, not ours. We only think that we are making the choice. It is done in Heaven. To bad Christians are unable to use the brian god gave them. Really a waste but each to their own! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37679064 United States 02/08/2016 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that was the case Jesus could have stayed home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898275 Cooperating or tolerating evil makes Christianity unnecessary. Christianity was about not supporting evil or evildoers, it was about resistence to ev il, not establishing evil as an authority. I don't think you understand what Jesus did. Read your Bible again. Jesus defeated evil on the cross. |
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STREET WIZARD User ID: 69643893 United States 02/08/2016 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the 501c3 Clergy Response Teams job to preach a perverted interpretation of Romans 13. The Bible says: PHUCK THE MATERIAL WORLD, in endless ways. Its literally all it says, and your electric mental infection is the only thing making it more complicated. You reject the uninfected and add to your virus. Rogue spyware installed by civilization, at birth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71424822 Germany 02/08/2016 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the 501c3 Clergy Response Teams job to preach a perverted interpretation of Romans 13. Quoting: STREET WIZARD 69643893 The Bible says: PHUCK THE MATERIAL WORLD, in endless ways. Its literally all it says, and your electric mental infection is the only thing making it more complicated. You reject the uninfected and add to your virus. Rogue spyware installed by civilization, at birth. Most still can't comprehend how many times the bibel was translated and redefined already. This is the most strange thing about the new Christians they are all brainwashed. |
LOOBY User ID: 65475225 Canada 02/08/2016 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that was the case Jesus could have stayed home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898275 Cooperating or tolerating evil makes Christianity unnecessary. Christianity was about not supporting evil or evildoers, it was about resistence to ev il, not establishing evil as an authority. God puts in those who are in power and He can take them out. It is God's decision, not ours. We only think that we are making the choice. It is done in Heaven. The choice is everywhere. When Israel chose to be like the heathen and have a King, God chose Saul for them 7 Off / Pull iT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71352041 United States 02/08/2016 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider who selected the manuscripts that were to be included in the bible along with the omissions and interpolations of the texts thare were chosen and its purpose. It was to stop the fighting between the Jews, Gnostics and pagans and place them all under the control of Rome. Read the Nag Hammadi for a different perspective. It speaks much of the "authorities and rulers". The current pope is no fan of gnostic teachings. Wonder why? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51558052 United States 02/08/2016 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | submit to their laws as long as they don't go against God's laws. otherwise shadrak meshak and abednego (those names are probably spelled wrong) would have died in the fiery furnace. Moses and the Israelites would still be slaves in egypt I could give more examples but lets just cut to the chase. when your government tells you to take the mark of the beast, God is not going to say its ok because your government told you to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15285140 United States 02/08/2016 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Written by Romans to help subjugate the masses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69519719 Serf control. Turn the other cheek, the meek shall inherit the earth, camel through the eye of a needle, submit, etc. If one can get people to buy into this, pretty simple ruling them Yup thats part of it. people just refuse to accept the Bible is only part truth, not all truth, just like everything else masonic and part of the agenda which is thousands of years old, not some modern concept. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71268608 United States 02/08/2016 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mind controlled wussies will find a reason to submit to terror, oppression, tyranny, and outright evil. When the murderers come for you, lie down. According to some idiots, you don't have the natural right to defend yourselves. LMAO! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65775652 United States 02/08/2016 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the 501c3 Clergy Response Teams job to preach a perverted interpretation of Romans 13. Quoting: STREET WIZARD 69643893 The Bible says: PHUCK THE MATERIAL WORLD, in endless ways. Its literally all it says, and your electric mental infection is the only thing making it more complicated. You reject the uninfected and add to your virus. Rogue spyware installed by civilization, at birth. Most still can't comprehend how many times the bibel was translated and redefined already. This is the most strange thing about the new Christians they are all brainwashed. This was a good argument pre-1947. Look up the dead sea scrolls, my friend. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65775652 United States 02/08/2016 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider who selected the manuscripts that were to be included in the bible along with the omissions and interpolations of the texts thare were chosen and its purpose. It was to stop the fighting between the Jews, Gnostics and pagans and place them all under the control of Rome. Quoting: 120 Colors Read the Nag Hammadi for a different perspective. It speaks much of the "authorities and rulers". The current pope is no fan of gnostic teachings. Wonder why? Yes, consider the translators like Erasmus and Tyndale, that is a great study in itself. I am sure Tyndale was really worried about Jewish infighting as he was being strangled to death at the stake. |