Researcher introduces Flat Earth theory to a room full of globe believers

Can i see your scale model?

Where do satellites go after the pass overhead?
I'm serious!

Where do satellites go after the pass overhead?
I'm serious!

This reminds me of something that came to mind last night.
And I forgot about it til just now, so haven't researched it. But maybe you can save me some time?

What's the speed things have to be going to break out into outerspace without getting ripped to shreds?

I understand that the atmosphere and earth are going the same speed - the fly in a car stuff and we don't have to worry about that when launching things into our orbit.

It seems that if we're spinning at 1000 mph and space isn't moving...the rockets/probes/ships would just break apart trying to get out of orbit.

Then I thought, ok...maybe there's a bigger car. We're hurtling around the sun at 66600 mph. But how does an object set to account for only 1100 mph not get ripped apart when it's suddenly whisked into the 66600 mph winds?

And from there it has to break through the 66,600 mph and slow down to 45,000 mph to solar system speed. Again, without getting ripped apart.

Plus it has to break free of our gravity, and the moons gravity, and the sun's gravity. AND it has to stay on it's proper path to go where we want it.

HOW DO THEY DO THIS!!!????

Where do satellites go after the pass overhead?
I'm serious!

This reminds me of something that came to mind last night.
And I forgot about it til just now, so haven't researched it. But maybe you can save me some time?

What's the speed things have to be going to break out into outerspace without getting ripped to shreds?

I understand that the atmosphere and earth are going the same speed - the fly in a car stuff and we don't have to worry about that when launching things into our orbit.

It seems that if we're spinning at 1000 mph and space isn't moving...the rockets/probes/ships would just break apart trying to get out of orbit.

Then I thought, ok...maybe there's a bigger car. We're hurtling around the sun at 66600 mph. But how does an object set to account for only 1100 mph not get ripped apart when it's suddenly whisked into the 66600 mph winds?

And from there it has to break through the 66,600 mph and slow down to 45,000 mph to solar system speed. Again, without getting ripped apart.

Plus it has to break free of our gravity, and the moons gravity, and the sun's gravity. AND it has to stay on it's proper path to go where we want it.

HOW DO THEY DO THIS!!!????

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And you are correct we are spinning at around 1000 miles per hour, and space is a vacuum. You also have to take into account that it isn't like there is a brick wall in between our atmosphere and space. There is a gradual lessening. The atmosphere gets thinner the higher you go. It's why moutain climbers need o2 tanks.

You do understand that winds are produced by atmospheric gases? So that once you leave the atmosphere, the density of matter is so low, that we call it a vacuum. While there is a "solar wind" it is composed electrons, protons, and other particles that are very sparse.

The velocity required to escape earth's gravity is around 16,000 miles per hour, but most satellites don't need to reach this velocity, By the time they do reach high velocities, they are in the upper atmosphere which is much less dense, and doesn't exert nearly the frictional forces that the atmosphere would at lower elevations.

Yes...go to the store...buy a #2 pencil...cut eraser off #2 pencil where metal starts..should be bout 1 inch.....i mean this is redneck..shade tree but should work...cut the eraser off....now stick that eraser on an inflated basketball...the top of eraser is ISS...look at perspective...no way those pictures are real.

Cheers!

You do understand that winds are produced by atmospheric gases? So that once you leave the atmosphere, the density of matter is so low, that we call it a vacuum. While there is a "solar wind" it is composed electrons, protons, and other particles that are very sparse.

The velocity required to escape earth's gravity is around 16,000 miles per hour, but most satellites don't need to reach this velocity, By the time they do reach high velocities, they are in the upper atmosphere which is much less dense, and doesn't exert nearly the frictional forces that the atmosphere would at lower elevations.

So you are trying to tell me that the ISS is roughly 1/29th the size of earth? Now I'm no math wiz, but an average basketball has a diameter of 29.5 inches. That just seems unlikely to me.

So you are trying to tell me that the ISS is roughly 1/29th the size of earth? Now I'm no math wiz, but an average basketball has a diameter of 29.5 inches. That just seems unlikely to me.

ISS is 240 miles above a 25000 mile earth.

I have the concept...but understand? Not yet. I'll get there.

The vacuum though...my brain keeps saying going from winds of x mph to 0 mph would be really hard on the nuts and bolts. But another part says it would be like moving out of a rip tide into calm water...but I don't have have nuts and bolts.

Bah! It's late. I'm tired. I fully admit my brain has gone to bed already.

Til tomorrow though!

A way of thinking of it is like this.

Say on the ground, and up to around about 16km you are in the troposphere, we will think of this as a thick pudding. As you rise up you pass into the next layer the stratosphere which goes from 17-50k up and we will liken that to water in comparison. It's thinner and easier to move through because of less resistance. Next stop is the mesosphere it runs from 50-80km up and for the purposes of this conversation you are on dry land now, but we aren't quite yet in space. Next up is the Thermosphere which goes from 80-400km This is where our satellites hang out, honestly its as far as you can go without actuality leaving the planet. Anything over 400km is in the exosphere.

Hope this helps you understand leaving earth without being ripped to shreds

basketball is redneck scale...you can see the dilemma once you start using model.

What is the range of temperature in thermosphere..- 100/ +500?

Yeah I can see the dilemma here. For your model to make even the roughest sense ISS would have to be 2,500 miles big... I could hold an apple over a cantaloupe and say that its a redneck scale model of earth and the moon. And hell it could be. Proportions would be totally wrong, but hey it's just science... We can fudge on the math.

Damned hot... we are talking like 3-4k deg F

Mercy...like taking to children...the scale is not for the "size "....which is what most think.."size" matters...it is the height above earth...240 miles above a 25000 earth...

Cheers!

how cold?

Mercy...like taking to children...the scale is not for the "size "....which is what most think.."size" matters...it is the height above earth...240 miles above a 25000 earth...

Cheers!

Mercy...like taking to children...the scale is not for the "size "....which is what most think.."size" matters...it is the height above earth...240 miles above a 25000 earth...

Cheers!

how cold?

Again, you make cryptic inferences. If you have a point to make about the thermosphere, would you mind simply making the point?

And you do understand that the thermosphere is extremely sparse? Very low density, so very little medium to transfer heat.

Again, you make cryptic inferences. If you have a point to make about the thermosphere, would you mind simply making the point?

And you do understand that the thermosphere is extremely sparse? Very low density, so very little medium to transfer heat.

Space has extreme temps....from what I understand.....
-200...to +500 in thermosphere....is this correct?

Space has extreme temps....from what I understand.....
-200...to +500 in thermosphere....is this correct?

Please simply make your point. If you need for me to say that space had extreme temperatures, in general it is extremely cold. Is that enough?

As I am an curios human ....was wondering what rubber seal could survive this temp fluctuation.