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Trump said "they're lying there's 30% unemployment in the US

 
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There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS.

Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country.
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It's good to see that at least SOME people have their heads out of Kim Kardasions butt and can see what's really going on. The "American Dream" is dead! Oh, and btw, I would just like to add one thing. All this 'job growth' that the butt-head-in-chief spews on about.... 1 American + 3 part-time jobs= 3 NEW JOBS Welcome to the Common Core math!

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The fact is if you have a record you can't get a decent job. There should be a limit on backround checks. I'd say 5 years.
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Why would you stop looking for unemployment? I would of constantly move looking for work online and on foot. But I kind of understand if you have kids because it is kinda hard. But why not let the father move across the country looking for work. Once he finds works he can send money to his family. I guess it's not that easy doing it as you say it.hf
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The internet reports oil jobs lost in the tens of thousands, however, we live in an oil patch area and not only those workers but office workers, boat company employees, etc. have lost jobs. The number in the US is probably at least 500,000. There are boats docked for a 20 mile stretch on just one bayou and we have lots of bayous in south Louisiana. These are boats that were consistently working before oil bottomed out. Companies that have been family run for decades are contemplating bankruptcy. This is just in Louisiana. Texas, the Dakotas, Oklahoma, etc. have all had to let thousands of workers go. These job losses are felt immediately locally in the retail segments but this impact will begin to spread.
It's why I get so annoyed when people cheer lower gasoline prices. Low prices seem good until you or your neighbor in say Ohio or New Jersey lose their jobs because the companies they work for are indirectly affiliated with oil. Then, your friend or relative lose their pension because the money was invested in oil.
The situation is dire and the future is bleak. Plus Obama wants to add a $10 per barrel cost to the oil companies. That's 30% of what a barrel is getting now. Don't be fooled. He began to ruin different segments of our industry and is continuing. After oil, what industry is next? He has dismantled our economy. We will need a POTUS who will bolster both our economy and the morale of the American people in 2016 or we're done. We don't need someone who wants to tax us more-up to 90% like Bernie Sanders.
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Why would you stop looking for unemployment? I would of constantly move looking for work online and on foot. But I kind of understand if you have kids because it is kinda hard. But why not let the father move across the country looking for work. Once he finds works he can send money to his family. I guess it's not that easy doing it as you say it.hf
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Men and women did that by going to work in oil producing states only those jobs are gone. Who wants to move across the country to work at Wal Mart? That kind of job won't cover moving costs. Steel? No jobs, Coal? No jobs, Tourism? low pay
What types of work are you suggesting people move to find? There are no jobs.
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Well, if Trump does win, he can put everyone of this 95million back to work building that goddamned wall!
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Look for the Ripple Effect:

Repeal ObamaCare......then suddenly people working

28 hours a week will jump back up to 40 hours a week.

ObamaCare 28 Hour Mandate disappears!
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Oh yeah, Repeal ObamaCare and that Big Fat Fine $$$ at the IRS

disappears!
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There was a report I've seen on the internet that claims the official US unemployment stats are based on a different metric compared with decades ago. Or that if the way figures were gathered back in, for example, the 1970s, today's unemployment rate would be much higher.

The supposedly official unemployment rate for Mexico that is listed on the web as having been compiled by the CIA shows it rarely going above 4% for over 40 years. However, that data now comes with an asterisk since even the CIA can't say with a straight face that Mexico has enjoyed consistently and remarkably low unemployment since around the time many of us were born or yet to be born.

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Surprised U6 numbers aren't being posted after 6 pages. The MSM normally uses U3, but U6 is more realistic. Take a guess who uses which for their teleprompter.

[link to www.bls.gov]
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Why would you stop looking for unemployment? I would of constantly move looking for work online and on foot. But I kind of understand if you have kids because it is kinda hard. But why not let the father move across the country looking for work. Once he finds works he can send money to his family. I guess it's not that easy doing it as you say it.hf
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you are no longer considered unemployed when your unemployment benefits run out.

doesn't mean that you have stopped looking, just means the government no longer counts you as unemployed.

nice huh?
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OP I believe this number.


I'm in DC area... Every day on WTOP they tell us it's 5% and Obama is the best President ever who fixed the economy!

Yet, all my friends are not making their quarterly #s and managers are getting fired or let go because of it.

Something is not right and it's NOT fair to the people
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Why would you stop looking for unemployment? I would of constantly move looking for work online and on foot. But I kind of understand if you have kids because it is kinda hard. But why not let the father move across the country looking for work. Once he finds works he can send money to his family. I guess it's not that easy doing it as you say it.hf
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you are no longer considered unemployed when your unemployment benefits run out.

doesn't mean that you have stopped looking, just means the government no longer counts you as unemployed.

nice huh?
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THIS^^^
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Trump just said what the MSM and all politicians have ignored for years.
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And his proof is?
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The people who gave up looking for work. That means they are unemployed. And that means the real unemployment rate is over 20% at least.
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Where's your proof? Or are you nust pulling numbers out of your ass?
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When your unemployment checks run out, you're not being counted anymore on the list of unemployed people in your state who are actively seeking work. You officially disappear - until they think you owe them something. Anyone who has applied for unemployment compensation, received it and did not find employment by the time those checks ran out, is not showing up in media or government 'statistics.'

Here in NM, thousands of people who did qualify for unemployment compensation received no checks and were instead, sent a letter from the state saying that the state accepted their eligibility but just didn't have the money to pay. No, I am not kidding.
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Why would you stop looking for unemployment? I would of constantly move looking for work online and on foot. But I kind of understand if you have kids because it is kinda hard. But why not let the father move across the country looking for work. Once he finds works he can send money to his family. I guess it's not that easy doing it as you say it.hf
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you are no longer considered unemployed when your unemployment benefits run out.

doesn't mean that you have stopped looking, just means the government no longer counts you as unemployed.

nice huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70219868


It means that you have become a non person in the global corporation.

An Indian, Filipino or anyone else making third world wages of around 100 dollars per week for a third world based company can replace you within the USA corporate boundaries.

That's what it means.
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OP I believe this number.


I'm in DC area... Every day on WTOP they tell us it's 5% and Obama is the best President ever who fixed the economy!

Yet, all my friends are not making their quarterly #s and managers are getting fired or let go because of it.

Something is not right and it's NOT fair to the people
 Quoting: abeliever


The global corporation wants profits and one way they can do it is by firing Americans and hiring 100 dollar per week third worlders. They put the third worlders in their corporate offices in the USA.

Soon US offices, hospitals, factories will be filled with third world 100 day a week employees.

Then the silly stupid Millennials will surrender and work for 100 dollars per week.
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And his proof is?
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Almost 1/3rd of the US population is unemployed.
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Thats just a technicality
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No it IS not.

The unemployed rate is not JUST people collecting benefits. Some never had benefits....self-employed perhaps and for most the benefits just ran out....and they are not counted in the percentage yet are still in need of a job. There may be some stay at home parents in that number or he might be factoring a per cent of them and students out of the number.
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Are you an idiot?
Who goes around counting and interviewing the nonunion self employed hairdresser, the numerous independent contractors, and entrepreneurs?
Ummm, NO fucKING ANYONE,
If you have two IQ pointz to rub together youd realize TGERES NO MECHANISM TO COUNT ANYONE BUT MOSTLY UNION MEMBERS GOING THROUGH UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM
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Do tjose allegedly having 'stopped looking for work' also stopping, eating, drinking, needing transportation and shelter too?

I dont tnink so.

It a fake excuse from the govmedia lie factory,
Stop accepting their billshit without thinking.
Nobody not a lottery winner stops wanting an income.
You either steal it or earn it or become a slave.
The only time you stop looking for work is when you die.
Nobody honestly trying to survive ever just quits looking if they want to survive.
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Do the numbers include everyone on welfare and disability too?
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Trump just said what the MSM and all politicians have ignored for years.
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And his proof is?


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The government's own statistics...

The dirty secret no one in the media will admit to is that once you use up your unemployment benefits, the government stops counting you as unemployed.

Not because you got a job, but because they no longer have to pay you...
 Quoting: Masiro


Correct.

Also, many people lost full-time job because of Obamacare--rather than pay insurance for a full-time (30 hours per week) employee, companies got rid of full-time staff and went to 2 or 3 temps which showed lots of people being hired.
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Even if you have one of those new jobs Obama created you are broke pay is much lower today than 35 years ago and not including inflation. My first job was in 1978 for Delta Airlines as a baggage handler making 7 bucks an hours, well today that job pays 9 bucks an hours to start. Big improvement there huh?
Plus there are no good paying labor/manufacturing jobs today that can raise a family since they have all been sent off shore, not everyone can be a Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer or a Cattle Baron. Part of the problem is everyone wants cheaper cheaper cheaper and does not want to pay for quality or customer service.

The other point to make is I bet the majority of those on this forum where not born or were a consumer 25 years ago so you have not reference or are able to compare how bad it is today vs prior to the change of direction America has taken....
Todays jobs in America do not pay well and thats thanks to NAFTA/Bill Clinton, NWO, and every paid for, in the pocket of Big Business politician since......

This will never turn around regardless of who is in charge, face it if you are not one of the 2% your destiny is servitude and poverty,,,,very sad
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Most blue collar trade jobs (carpenter, mason, plumber, electrician) which used to provide a solid low middle class life for millions of families now taken by illegals.
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I'm sure there must be a percentage of those going to college, living on grants and loans? That is a type of "occupation" for a while.
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Trump just said what the MSM and all politicians have ignored for years.
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And his proof is?
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Shill
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Most blue collar trade jobs (carpenter, mason, plumber, electrician) which used to provide a solid low middle class life for millions of families now taken by illegals.
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Because those jobs are subsidized by the tax payer to the tune of $50,000 per family.

Now professional jobs are being taken by $100/week and travel expense 3rd worlders here in the USA. Offices and hospitals.

Its already started years before TTP has been signed.

I would have to think they will even start taking jobs turning wrenches in automotive and aerospace factories.

BTW, none of those 3rd worlders pay any income tax social security tax, medicare medicaid tax

The only jobs left for Americans will be necessary plant managers and subject matter experts. That is maybe two million jobs for Americans if that, TOPS!

No jobs means they want to kill us.
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All the Illegals in Minnesota have a job though...and the government pays companies part of the wages to hire them..WTF

We get bumped out of positions at work and are supposed to have 1 of the strongest unions in AmeriKa..

International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers

that I pay 15 bucks a week for.
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Please please pray for Donald Trump. THEre are some really mean people in politics and I dont doubt they want jeb vs hillary with hillary winning but now she is such a used up shrill nag, they want jeb to win because there is NO difference amoung the highly priveleged...they may just have Trump have a heart attack. and if hillary doesnt cooperate, she'll be pushed out/
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Trump just said what the MSM and all politicians have ignored for years.
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And his proof is?
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48 million on food stamps

36 million on section8 housing

49 million on unemployment

96 million out of the workforce
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Not to mention all of those who are old enough to retire and collect social security, but still needed to stay in the work force. Just gave up looking for employment and retired.
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I feel sorry for you Yanks having to choose between Clinton and Trump to be the next president.
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Trump just said what the MSM and all politicians have ignored for years.
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