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Back in November Microsoft confirmed Windows 10’s worst kept secret: its extensive telemetry (or ‘spying’ as it has been labelled) cannot be stopped. What no-one realized until now, however, is just how staggering the extent of this tracking really is…

Blowing the lid on it this week is Voat user CheesusCrust whose extensive investigation found Windows 10 contacts Microsoft to report data thousands of times per day. And the kicker? This happens after choosing a custom Windows 10 installation and disabling all three pages of tracking options which are all enabled by default.

The raw numbers come out as follows: in an eight hour period Windows 10 tried to send data back to 51 different Microsoft IP addresses over 5500 times. After 30 hours of use, Windows 10 expanded that data reporting to 113 non-private IP addresses. Being non-private means there is the potential for hackers to intercept this data. I’d argue this is the greatest cost to owning Windows 10.

Taking this a step further, the testing was then repeated on another Windows 10 clean installation again with all data tracking options disabled and third party tool DisableWinTracking was also installed which tries to shut down all hidden Windows 10 data reporting attempts. At the end of the 30 hour period Windows 10 had still managed to phone home with data 2758 times to 30 different IP addresses.

the rest can be read at Forbes below...


[link to www.forbes.com]
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Self embeds an Ip and Keyboard logger as well
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my advice to everybody, go back to windows xp
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go linux
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We here at MS don't call it "Windows 10.nsa" for nothing!
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go linux
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Almost ready. Will definitely go linux when support for 7 is gone. Concerns:

Can I use Adobe Software (i.e. full suites) with Linux? How about gaming? Learning curve doesn't look too steep (testing rebecca on a cheap laptop) but the hardware is way too old and too slow to handle any of my higher end software so... still a bunch of ???'s
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Re: Windows 10 Worst Secret Spins Out Of Control...
Back in November Microsoft confirmed Windows 10’s worst kept secret: its extensive telemetry (or ‘spying’ as it has been labelled) cannot be stopped. What no-one realized until now, however, is just how staggering the extent of this tracking really is…

Blowing the lid on it this week is Voat user CheesusCrust whose extensive investigation found Windows 10 contacts Microsoft to report data thousands of times per day. And the kicker? This happens after choosing a custom Windows 10 installation and disabling all three pages of tracking options which are all enabled by default.

The raw numbers come out as follows: in an eight hour period Windows 10 tried to send data back to 51 different Microsoft IP addresses over 5500 times. After 30 hours of use, Windows 10 expanded that data reporting to 113 non-private IP addresses. Being non-private means there is the potential for hackers to intercept this data. I’d argue this is the greatest cost to owning Windows 10.

Taking this a step further, the testing was then repeated on another Windows 10 clean installation again with all data tracking options disabled and third party tool DisableWinTracking was also installed which tries to shut down all hidden Windows 10 data reporting attempts. At the end of the 30 hour period Windows 10 had still managed to phone home with data 2758 times to 30 different IP addresses.

the rest can be read at Forbes below...


[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: z3bo


No one realized until now????

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I was posting about this crap since JUNE 2015!


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LOTS of discussions on Win 10 information THEFT.

.....


Win 10 is a VIRUS based upon the actual definition of what a virus does and how it operates.
Stay clear of it.

Thread: A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10

Thread: Reinstalled Windows 7. Windows 10 seems more like spyware than an operating system.

Thread: MS/NSA Microsoft National Spy Agency Windows 10 Uploads your Data and keyloggers your passwords records video and audio

Thread: Katherine Albrecht: Windows 10 Is Full Blown Electronic Tyranny

Thread: Windows 10 might get BANED in Switzerland for abusing peoples privacy!!

Thread: Windows 10 automatically sends parents detailed dossier of their children's internet history and computer use

Thread: Windows 10 banned in Russia!!!.....

Thread: Windows 10 is a Tool to Spy on Everything You Do

Thread: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped

Windows 10 covertly sends your disk-encryption keys to Microsoft
[link to www.blacklistednews.com]

Windows 10 EULA: Microsoft can killswitch your unauthorized hardware and pirate games
[link to boingboing.net]

Windows 10 defaults to keylogging, harvesting browser history, purchases, and covert listening
[link to boingboing.net]

Even when you turn on Win 10's "privacy" flags, it still spies on you
[link to boingboing.net]


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go linux
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Almost ready. Will definitely go linux when support for 7 is gone. Concerns:

Can I use Adobe Software (i.e. full suites) with Linux? How about gaming? Learning curve doesn't look too steep (testing rebecca on a cheap laptop) but the hardware is way too old and too slow to handle any of my higher end software so... still a bunch of ???'s
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Steam is rolling more and more games to Linux every day to push it's steamos which is Linux based, I can't speak on Adobe though
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I'm using Windows 10 but I installed an anti-spying program right away like the one mentioned in OP.

I also added a about a hundred I.P. addresses to my "hosts" files as well.
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I'm using Windows 10 but I installed an anti-spying program right away like the one mentioned in OP.

I also added a about a hundred I.P. addresses to my "hosts" files as well.
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Won't stop Win 10.
You are trying to make a VIRUS not act like a VIRUS.

Get rid of it.
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go linux
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Almost ready. Will definitely go linux when support for 7 is gone. Concerns:

Can I use Adobe Software (i.e. full suites) with Linux? How about gaming? Learning curve doesn't look too steep (testing rebecca on a cheap laptop) but the hardware is way too old and too slow to handle any of my higher end software so... still a bunch of ???'s
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Steam is rolling more and more games to Linux every day to push it's steamos which is Linux based, I can't speak on Adobe though
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tyvm for info
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Re: Windows 10 Worst Secret Spins Out Of Control...
Back in November Microsoft confirmed Windows 10’s worst kept secret: its extensive telemetry (or ‘spying’ as it has been labelled) cannot be stopped. What no-one realized until now, however, is just how staggering the extent of this tracking really is…

Blowing the lid on it this week is Voat user CheesusCrust whose extensive investigation found Windows 10 contacts Microsoft to report data thousands of times per day. And the kicker? This happens after choosing a custom Windows 10 installation and disabling all three pages of tracking options which are all enabled by default.

The raw numbers come out as follows: in an eight hour period Windows 10 tried to send data back to 51 different Microsoft IP addresses over 5500 times. After 30 hours of use, Windows 10 expanded that data reporting to 113 non-private IP addresses. Being non-private means there is the potential for hackers to intercept this data. I’d argue this is the greatest cost to owning Windows 10.

Taking this a step further, the testing was then repeated on another Windows 10 clean installation again with all data tracking options disabled and third party tool DisableWinTracking was also installed which tries to shut down all hidden Windows 10 data reporting attempts. At the end of the 30 hour period Windows 10 had still managed to phone home with data 2758 times to 30 different IP addresses.

the rest can be read at Forbes below...


[link to www.forbes.com]
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Simple. Just avoid the computer. I do.
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I really don't give a shit if they spy on me. /shrug
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Got Windows 8.1 on small laptop. It keeps wanting to install 10. I'm not gonna do it, but wonder how bad 8.1 is compared to 10, and if 8.1 can be remotely instructed to download the same viral aspects of 10?
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I really don't give a shit if they spy on me. /shrug
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Same here. I surf the net maybe a full hour once a week. I'm pretty boring to spy on.
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Got Windows 8.1 on small laptop. It keeps wanting to install 10. I'm not gonna do it, but wonder how bad 8.1 is compared to 10, and if 8.1 can be remotely instructed to download the same viral aspects of 10?
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If I were you, I would reset the laptop back to factory settings and then turn off updates.

My updates have been since July and I have not been reminded (harassed) to install W10.

Don't believe these jackasses who are saying that updates are required.

Ive been using windows PCs forever and have rarely used updates.
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I really don't give a shit if they spy on me. /shrug
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Same here. I surf the net maybe a full hour once a week. I'm pretty boring to spy on.
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Cool, mind if I send a little .exe file to run, no worries, I will keep everything you type, say and do totally confidential.
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my advice to everybody, go back to windows xp
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^^ Word!
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I really don't give a shit if they spy on me. /shrug
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Re: Windows 10 Worst Secret Spins Out Of Control...
Got Windows 8.1 on small laptop. It keeps wanting to install 10. I'm not gonna do it, but wonder how bad 8.1 is compared to 10, and if 8.1 can be remotely instructed to download the same viral aspects of 10?
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Win 8 likely has some of the built in telemetry components too.
More of them are pushed into Win8 though with the Update patches.

At this point though you should be using Win7 or less and have all Updates permanently disabled.
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I'm using Windows 10 but I installed an anti-spying program right away like the one mentioned in OP.

I also added a about a hundred I.P. addresses to my "hosts" files as well.
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Won't stop Win 10.
You are trying to make a VIRUS not act like a VIRUS.

Get rid of it.
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I'm using Windows 10 but I installed an anti-spying program right away like the one mentioned in OP.

I also added a about a hundred I.P. addresses to my "hosts" files as well.
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Won't stop Win 10.
You are trying to make a VIRUS not act like a VIRUS.

Get rid of it.
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I feel sorry for those people using metered data caps. I am stcking to Windows Pro for a long time.
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Everyone that is scared of windows 10 are software pirates and probably look at illegal content based on their geographical area.

If you don't want to be involved with liberalism you should go live in a hole in the ground.
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Everyone that is scared of windows 10 are software pirates and probably look at illegal content based on their geographical area.

If you don't want to be involved with liberalism you should go live in a hole in the ground.
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That doesn't even scratch the surface of the problem.

getwell
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well i dont think there's anything more to add,,your links pretty much covered any underlying questions that article failed to address..steer clear of windows 10 if you value your privacy.
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Re: Windows 10 Worst Secret Spins Out Of Control...
Back in November Microsoft confirmed Windows 10’s worst kept secret: its extensive telemetry (or ‘spying’ as it has been labelled) cannot be stopped. What no-one realized until now, however, is just how staggering the extent of this tracking really is…

Blowing the lid on it this week is Voat user CheesusCrust whose extensive investigation found Windows 10 contacts Microsoft to report data thousands of times per day. And the kicker? This happens after choosing a custom Windows 10 installation and disabling all three pages of tracking options which are all enabled by default.

The raw numbers come out as follows: in an eight hour period Windows 10 tried to send data back to 51 different Microsoft IP addresses over 5500 times. After 30 hours of use, Windows 10 expanded that data reporting to 113 non-private IP addresses. Being non-private means there is the potential for hackers to intercept this data. I’d argue this is the greatest cost to owning Windows 10.

Taking this a step further, the testing was then repeated on another Windows 10 clean installation again with all data tracking options disabled and third party tool DisableWinTracking was also installed which tries to shut down all hidden Windows 10 data reporting attempts. At the end of the 30 hour period Windows 10 had still managed to phone home with data 2758 times to 30 different IP addresses.

the rest can be read at Forbes below...


[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: z3bo


Simple solution. DON'T USE THAT BROWSER. There are many others to chose from.
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How is windows 10 legal? By the very definition, it is malware/spyware.
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well i dont think there's anything more to add,,your links pretty much covered any underlying questions that article failed to address..steer clear of windows 10 if you value your privacy.


It is not just about privacy at this point. Imagine if your writing a book, designing a machine of some sort, Microsoft and untold number of third parties, would have access to it, and readily be able to steal, anything you came up with or designed. It is, in essence, is the marxist solution, to intellectual property rights.
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Farm Animals?
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How is windows 10 legal? By the very definition, it is malware/spyware.
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I've been wondering how the hell they are getting away with it here, I guess microsft gets a free pass on privacy laws.





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