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This is the deal. There seems to be a bit of confusion on linux. I wanted to try to demystify and enlighten.

I’m at work, so this will be kinda brief. But let me tell you, there are many reasons linux is the best. At the same time, I am going to try to give you some basic info on how to install and provide some input on how you can take advantage of a install. Hopefully with this info you can part ways (for the most part) from Microshit or Crapple.

To give some basic background: Basically there are three major releases, debian, redhat/fedora, and slackware (there are more, but these are the big ones). There are literally 100’s of distro’s (distributions). Here is a graphic that illustrates the field [link to futurist.se]

Some facts:
• Linux is open source, which means everyone has access to the code. For low level / new users, that means that 99% of these distros and the associated software packages are free.
• When you initially download and create a install disk (I’ll get into this later). You can actually run linux, and test it out, before you even install it on to a drive (that’s how efficient these OS are). If nothing else, if your OS crashes, a linux disk is a recovery disk while being a network enabled, fully functional OS!
• It also means they are wonderfully stable and secure. It stays out of the way, it does what you tell it to do and ONLY what you tell it to do. When an issue has occurred, you have the entire linux community fixing the problem.
• Debian has 20,000 software packages. Fedora has around 15000; security, games, system tools, internet tools, etc. Software packages like MS Office, photoshop, adobe, have clones. (The one down side, the software won’t be as shiney, or may have all the options as the MS versions, but I find it makes little difference to me.)
• Most MS files can be opened, edited and saved with Linux software.
• You can dual boot a hard drive. This means you absolutely need to keep/use a specific Windows application, can install linux on a different section of your hard drive.
• With a dual booted system, you will be able to select which OS you want to load when you start your computer.
• With linux you will be able to access files from your entire hard drive.

These are my favorite linux distros:
www.ubuntu.com
www.linuxmint.com

Light weight installs
lubuntu.net
[link to xubuntu.org]
[link to www.archlinux.org (secure)]

Basically a free ‘enterprise’ version of linux. Kind of heady for new users.
[link to getfedora.org (secure)]


One of the reasons to go with one of the larger linux distro’s is that you’ll have a bigger community of support. And I should say, support is a breeze. Any questions, not matter the complexity, you’ll have tons of awesome people that will work you through the details.

Okay, now how to install:
• Go to the page and download the latest release. You’ll have multiple options here, you can either download the latest release, or dowloand the LTS (long term support) release. Either way, you’ll still get OS, software, and security updates. But in terms of rock solid stability, the LTS release is probably the best way to go.
• Once downloaded, burn the file to disk. (you’ll need to burn it as a ‘image file’)
• Place a blank unformatted CD or DVD into your CD/DVD drive.
• Right click on the linux file you just downloaded (the file extension will be .iso) and select “Burn disk image”.
• Once your done, you have a fully functioning linux OS!

Now you can run it while you are still in windows. You can even install it while operating windows. Although installing it after changing the BIOS mode is less likely to cause problems (as below).

If you have an older system, this may be slow. You may want to shut down the computer and boot from the CD.
To accomplish this, once your computer first boots up, you’ll have an option to go into bios settings. Usually you hit either the F8 or F12. In there you’ll have an option on how your computer boots. It’s very easy…either google boot from CD, or go here for a synopsis: [link to lifehacker.com]

Install process is super simple, and will walk you right through. The only thing that may slow the install is creating a partition to install a dual booted system. This is also very easy.

Steps

Click on unallocated space, click on new. Enter size as 48GB (or whatever size you want, you’ll just have to enter in mb), choose file system type as ext4, mount point /, partition type primary. This means ubuntu root partition, where all system files will be installed.

Click on unallocated space, click on new. Enter size as 2GB, choose primary partition, file system type SWAP. SWAP is like virtual memory…if HD storage and RAM is at a minimum, you really don’t need it, but it will help speed up your system.

A note on SWAP: Its generally calculated 1.5x RAM SIZE. If you have a 2GB RAM, preserve 1 GB for SWAP, have 4 GB RAM , preserve 512MB. Its your choice. Good amount of SWAP improves performance. I think Ubuntu requires SWAP, but other distro’s don’t.

Otherwise you have to create only two partitions:

First one (ext2, ext3 or ext4) which is called '/'. Its the root partition for all the Linux Operating System.

Second one (linux-swap) with about 4 GBytes, its a disk space for Linux that where users never reads from or writes in, only Linux manages this partition.

Once you have installed Linux, you can resize the first partition and then create others, even compatible with Windows OS. You can perfectly have 5 partitions of 49 Gb and one Linux-Swap partition.

At this point, you’re free from being a MS/Crapple sheep!

Once you get up and running with linux you can start playing around with desktop environments. (DE’s). DE’s are how the OS looks (yes you have the power to change the look; yes, you can install and run multiple DE’s for each linux install. For instance Debian/Ubuntu you can pick from a number of environments such as GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and MATE. Fedora's default desktop environment is GNOME, but there are also Fedora spins of other desktop environments, such as KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and MATE.
Here is a good synopsis of DE’s [link to lifehacker.com]

I will check back to see if you have any questions. Hope this helps!!
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Linux is very user friendly, its just very selective on who it befriends.
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Yep, just formatted my windows 8.1 hd and installed linux mint cinnamon.
Linux is not new for me but it's the first time i try mint.

It's awesome and everything works out of the box on my netbook!!
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Ahh, there ARE some wise individuals lurking around GLP.

Nice.

Remember,..."Its ALL Linux underneath."

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The biggest problem with Linux is hardware compatibility.

Linux is a complete system and could work right out of the box already.

The only problem is hardware vendors don't give a shit to release Linux versions of their drivers, so 95% of all the drivers for Linux must be compiled by the community for free.

It's a tremendous task and nearly impossible given how many vendors there are in the world and how much hardware there is on the market.

Apple boasts everything "just works" but they only have their own 5 computers at any moment to take care of.

Windows drivers are supplied by the hardware manufacturers.

Linux takes on a task of providing drivers and working on every platform, every graphic card, every sound card, every chip, every display, etc EVER PRODUCED IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

Compare and tell me Linux is shit.
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Ahh, there ARE some wise individuals lurking around GLP.

Nice.

Remember,..."Its ALL Linux underneath."

spock
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haha.

My dad worked for at&t back in the day, and I grew up around PC's.

When I broke something, I had to fix it. This thought me a lot.

I remember when we had our first unix box, wow. But for non-server types, we stuck with MS.

That is until XP was nixed. From that time on, I've been a linux fanatic. There are very few reasons for me to even touch any other OS.
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Just start sending out phone bills with the ernestine logo (in gold leaf, with the sage parchment UST watermark letterhead).

Gonna make bank on this sweet deal!

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The biggest problem with Linux is hardware compatibility.

Linux is a complete system and could work right out of the box already.

The only problem is hardware vendors don't give a shit to release Linux versions of their drivers, so 95% of all the drivers for Linux must be compiled by the community for free.

It's a tremendous task and nearly impossible given how many vendors there are in the world and how much hardware there is on the market.

Apple boasts everything "just works" but they only have their own 5 computers at any moment to take care of.

Windows drivers are supplied by the hardware manufacturers.

Linux takes on a task of providing drivers and working on every platform, every graphic card, every sound card, every chip, every display, etc EVER PRODUCED IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

Compare and tell me Linux is shit.
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Thankfully a lot of the big players are now supplying Linux drivers...not all, but some.

I don't game, so I give two fucks about some propeierty driver. My linux driver works, and it works without problems. That's all I need.

That's why someone would keep the dual boot option open.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Anyone know of a program like Total Commander?
I've seen some but none of them have a pleasing GUI.
[link to www.ghisler.com]

Any file manager program works that has a reasonably nice GUI.

I presently have Linux Mint.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com]
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I've been using Gentoo for many years, started using it when it was called Enoch Linux. Windows is like a dangerous toy ready to explode in your face at any given moment.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


You can play Dying Light but not Witcher 3. W3 is 'coming' to steamOS 'someday'.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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dumbass, that why I said you keep microsoft, and dual boot.

And if you just game all day, and you're not a game designer, you're a fucking loser.
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Linux is very user friendly, its just very selective on who it befriends.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


There is always the option of Wine and PlayOnLinux. They aren't overall solutions but can work.

For windows users,
Wine allows Windows applications to run on the Linux platform.

To date there are thousands of fully supported applications that now run on Wine (check out the application database for a full list) and that list is ever growing. Granted most of the Wine work is focused on games, but you’ll still find a healthy list of productivity apps available.

after you install wine, you will be able to install and run Windows applications. As I mentioned, not every application will work. Most will, but if you’re looking to get your in-house, proprietary solution up and running, you might hit a few snags. Once you're used to it, most issues can be worked out.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


There is always the option of Wine and PlayOnLinux. They aren't overall solutions but can work.

For windows users,
Wine allows Windows applications to run on the Linux platform.

To date there are thousands of fully supported applications that now run on Wine (check out the application database for a full list) and that list is ever growing. Granted most of the Wine work is focused on games, but you’ll still find a healthy list of productivity apps available.

after you install wine, you will be able to install and run Windows applications. As I mentioned, not every application will work. Most will, but if you’re looking to get your in-house, proprietary solution up and running, you might hit a few snags. Once you're used to it, most issues can be worked out.
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This. I'd say 95% of my steam library runs just fine with pol/wine.

Also VULKAN is coming!
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70420839


Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


There is always the option of Wine and PlayOnLinux. They aren't overall solutions but can work.

For windows users,
Wine allows Windows applications to run on the Linux platform.

To date there are thousands of fully supported applications that now run on Wine (check out the application database for a full list) and that list is ever growing. Granted most of the Wine work is focused on games, but you’ll still find a healthy list of productivity apps available.

after you install wine, you will be able to install and run Windows applications. As I mentioned, not every application will work. Most will, but if you’re looking to get your in-house, proprietary solution up and running, you might hit a few snags. Once you're used to it, most issues can be worked out.
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How much technical knowledge is needed to get it operational?
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I've used Debian GNU/Linux as my only operating system for 9 years now.

I actually don't even know how to use Windows and Mac like the kids I see with their fancy magadgets and what not.
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Will linux run on a quad core AMD A8 or A^ processor designed around windows?

What are the negatives?

I'm seriously considering this after the damn GWX bullshit keeps hijacking my system!!!!!!!!
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Will linux run on a quad core AMD A8 or A^ processor designed around windows?

What are the negatives?

I'm seriously considering this after the damn GWX bullshit keeps hijacking my system!!!!!!!!
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There are four distributions that can run on x86 and two, count 'em, two for ARM hardware.

So, Hell yes!

As far as utilizing a quad core...Many applications aren't explicitly multi-threaded, so their CPU-bound tasks will indeed be limited to one core at a time. Modern web browsers, however, use (at least) one core per window, so if you have multiple windows open you'll benefit from multiple cores.

More importantly, running Linux systems consists of many processes running, all taking turns using the CPU. Having multiple cores available means that, when two tasks want CPU time at the same time (which will happen a lot) the kernel doesn't have to choose. I find this makes a real difference in the responsiveness of the system.

Try a dual boot, if you love it, delete windows.
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Anyone know of a program like Total Commander?
I've seen some but none of them have a pleasing GUI.
[link to www.ghisler.com]

Any file manager program works that has a reasonably nice GUI.

I presently have Linux Mint.
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Sunflower and dolphin are dual screen file managers. Personally I like Dolphin
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Thank you OP for the DE link. Mate this, KDE that, gotta Cinnaminn the other... Good entry info.
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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Well you have one windows machine for games and a Linux machine for everything else.

Though you can play Dying Light and Witcher 3 on Linux.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


There is always the option of Wine and PlayOnLinux. They aren't overall solutions but can work.

For windows users,
Wine allows Windows applications to run on the Linux platform.

To date there are thousands of fully supported applications that now run on Wine (check out the application database for a full list) and that list is ever growing. Granted most of the Wine work is focused on games, but you’ll still find a healthy list of productivity apps available.

after you install wine, you will be able to install and run Windows applications. As I mentioned, not every application will work. Most will, but if you’re looking to get your in-house, proprietary solution up and running, you might hit a few snags. Once you're used to it, most issues can be worked out.
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This. I'd say 95% of my steam library runs just fine with pol/wine.

Also VULKAN is coming!
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I've always thought video card should have a standalone control. Seems straight forward to me, but who am I?
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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yes you can. Wine baby Wine is the answer.
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Will linux run on a quad core AMD A8 or A^ processor designed around windows?

What are the negatives?

I'm seriously considering this after the damn GWX bullshit keeps hijacking my system!!!!!!!!
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as for the negatives, you probably get more utility out of them under some uber expensive software, directly multithreaded tasks.

As I mentioned, debian has a ton of packages. You could just benchmark them yourself.

[link to askubuntu.com]

I'd love to see the results.

At the same time, mint has come out with a minibox, running AMD A4 6400T processor with Radeon R3 graphics.
Radeon and AMD has an extensive list of drivers specifically for different linux distros.


[link to www.pcworld.com]
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Just remember kids. You can't play GTAV on linux.
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yes you can. Wine baby Wine is the answer.
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Perhaps some day. It's rated garbage atm on wine.
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A couple good rundowns on advantages of different distro's for 2016.

[link to www.linux.com (secure)]

[link to www.techworm.net]

Obviously I'd stay away from Google OS and Chrome OS (even though it's just a internet OS).


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That mentioned, here is a conspiracy:

Ian Murdock -best known for launching the open-source distro (debian) in 1993- supposedly committed suicide not too long ago.

It's crazy to read through some of the twitter feeds of the followers...many are anon. What the MSM mention was that he was arrested for being loud and drunk, and charged with assaulting an officer. But that's not even the main point.

As some of these hacker guys dug into the situ, it appears that the feds wanted, and were going to force him to put a backdoor into his system. In turn, he offed himself. Hopefully, linux community will shut this down.

I tried to find the tweets, but couldn't find them.

Anyhow, here's the background story: [link to www.securitynewspaper.com]

But the feds are already forcing their way in:
[link to news.filehippo.com]
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