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Russia is about to collapse economically and Putin is in desperate need of a much higher oil price. A war with Saudi-Arabia, with lots of destruction of the oil producing facilities, will bring the price up to $100 again.
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yupp, always good to see the bigger picture ;)
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02/13/2016 06:29 AM
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The Russians will start WW3 over this.
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Reality check, its the Saudis and Turks invading an other country, not Russia.

Russian moves would be a reaction, Saudis moves the cause
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Correct!
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02/13/2016 06:38 AM
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It seems to me that Russia has done an excellent job in thwarting these advances - both in Ukraine and Syria, etc.

But I can't figure their angle on letting the USA and Europe continue to play around in Syria when THEY KNOW that is is counterproductive to their effort. They have even gone as far as to invite them in.

They warn off Turkey and S.A. (with good reason) and STILL refer to america as their "partners".

At what point do they drop the hammer and tell Everybody that if they don;t have a Syrian invite then don't let the door hit your ass on the way out?

Any insights on why they are doing this? What do they hope to accomplish?
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Russia can destroy any invading Turkish and Saudi forces legally without any retaliation from NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance. Article 5 is invoked when a NATO member is invaded, not when a NATO member does the invading. Saudi Arabia is not a member of NATO. The entire dictatorship of Saudi Arabia can be destroyed by Russia without the intervention of NATO.
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Russia can't fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia conventionally.
It could use nukes, but not sure would actually do it for Assad.
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That's why Iran are boots on ground Russian air support and defense s-300/s-400 and China just waiting for the phone call
Fuck it i'm going out on limb, send the Yemen fighters , they kick ass
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It seems to me that Russia has done an excellent job in thwarting these advances - both in Ukraine and Syria, etc.

But I can't figure their angle on letting the USA and Europe continue to play around in Syria when THEY KNOW that is is counterproductive to their effort. They have even gone as far as to invite them in.

They warn off Turkey and S.A. (with good reason) and STILL refer to america as their "partners".

At what point do they drop the hammer and tell Everybody that if they don;t have a Syrian invite then don't let the door hit your ass on the way out?

Any insights on why they are doing this? What do they hope to accomplish?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71359425

Russia can destroy any invading Turkish and Saudi forces legally without any retaliation from NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance. Article 5 is invoked when a NATO member is invaded, not when a NATO member does the invading. Saudi Arabia is not a member of NATO. The entire dictatorship of Saudi Arabia can be destroyed by Russia without the intervention of NATO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50732251


Russia can't fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia conventionally.
It could use nukes, but not sure would actually do it for Assad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50576485



Russia can EASILY fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia, piece of cake. But we all know who is behind Turkey and Saudi Arabia, not an easy puzzle. If you hit Turkey, they will cry to NATO like babies
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Nope, fighting Turkey and Saudi would be the straw that breaks the bactrian camel's back.
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02/13/2016 06:43 AM
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When the dust settles the world map will look like this:

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]

As it was meant to from the start, and nothing will stop it!
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02/13/2016 06:45 AM
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The Russians will start WW3 over this.
 Quoting: Tess.


Pff all this talk about WW3. If SA and Turkey enter Syria those s-400 should put up or shut up, see if Russia has teeth or is just some paper tiger.
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02/13/2016 06:47 AM
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Maybe it's a tarp?

For Saudia Arabia...the Kuwait/April Glaspie Moment for the Saudi Barbarians.

Think about:
The dropping of iran sanctions. the change of strategy in ME towards Iran in the last months.

Now you got to trick the Saudis into a war to get rid of them. Saying that you will back them...but then let them fall.

I would looking forward to it.

Burning down the House of Saud.

5a
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That would be too good to be true
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"The Great One of Prophetic Teachers spoke of 'The Fall of the House of Saud' occurring in Year 2016"
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02/13/2016 06:47 AM
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Saudi Arabia is deploying warplanes to the Turkish Incirlik base to fight Daesh.
The deployment is part of the US-led effort to defeat Daesh terrorist group, he added. Incirlik is a key hub for US-led coalition operations againstDaesh (ISIL/ISIS/IS).
The Foreign Minister also said that Turkey and Saudi Arabia could launch a ground operation against terrorists in Syria.
Read more: [link to sputniknews.com]

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02/13/2016 06:50 AM
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AFP news agency ‏@AFP · 1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Ankara says Turkey and Saudi Arabia could launch anti-IS ground operation in Syria
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How will Saudis and Turks provide air cover for their troops with Russian S-400 missiles owning the skies?
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02/13/2016 06:52 AM
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Obama still wants regime change! Now that daash seems to be near defeat, there is still the original "Arab spring" to continue advancing. The only way to effect regime change is for a foreign force to be in place and on the ground. This will be WW3 if Russia then bombs the Saudi Turk ground forces.
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02/13/2016 07:08 AM
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Why have the Saudis become so war oriented in the last couple of years? They have always had a passive isolationist world view. Columbian mercenaries are not going to defeat Syrians and Iranians with Russian backing. Hell, they cannot handle Yemen with their chicken shit import army. The Saudis are being played by something.
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02/13/2016 07:10 AM
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It would be an act of agression if they enter Syria without the permission of the legitimate government of Syria.
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US FM John Kerry is accusing Russia of repeated aggression in Ukraine and Syria. In both countries the Russians are acting against the will of the world community, Kerry said while speaking at the safety conference in Munich saturday.

[NRK - AP]
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02/13/2016 07:11 AM
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This will be WW3 if Russia then bombs the Saudi Turk ground forces.
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No it wont be WW3.

They are stupid in the West but not that stupid. No one joins WW3 because of the two dictatorships Turkey an Saudi-Barbaria.

The political and economical stability in Europe and USA is far from being that good so that you could sell this as a reason to go to war with the Russians. Public would not swallow it.
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02/13/2016 07:15 AM
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Turkey start total mobilisation: [link to sovpl.forum24.ru]
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02/13/2016 07:17 AM
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Saudi Arabia and Turkey to send ground troops into Syria to combat ISIS. If it wasnt so serious it would be funny. ISIS is the Wahhabist extreme arm of islam founded in and financed by Saudi Arabia and Turkey is a gateway safe haven for these extremists that can buy and sell the stolen oil from Syria, making billions for the corrupt rulers there. Lets not even get started on the US and UK involvement in funding and training other 'moderate' extreme groups within the region.

The whole thing is so fucked up my friends friends enemy is my freinds friend and my enemy and my friend and my enemy is not my enemy today because they are fighting my enemy and therefore must be my friend, all its all Russia's fault.
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Russia warns of 'permanent war' in Syria

[link to www.cnbc.com]

The ceasefire does not exclude the possibility of foreign ground troops in Syria to help fight IS. U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Friday that he expected Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates to provide special operations forces to help Syrian opposition fighters battling IS, including in key IS stronghold Raqqa, Reuters reported.

"We're going to try to give opportunities and power to ... particularly Sunni Arabs in Syria who want to re-seize their territory back from ISIL, especially Raqqa," Carter said after defense talks in Brussels.
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02/13/2016 07:35 AM

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Here it is nice and simple:

Syria's government was democratically elected.

Syria's government requested Russia's assistance with their Isis problem.

Saudi Arabia funds Isis, as well as all other forms of Muslim terrorism. Saudi Arabia wants to intervene in Syria because they're losing Isis members every day.

The USA back the "moderates" whom are against both Assad and Isis, and the USA is dumping money and weapons into them as well.


So yes, we have a waiting powderkeg. The only two groups there legally is Syria's democratic government and Russia.


Keep an eye on the Saudi terrorist supporters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70798733


Bashar Al Assad democratically elected ... that's a whopper

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Russia can destroy any invading Turkish and Saudi forces legally without any retaliation from NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance. Article 5 is invoked when a NATO member is invaded, not when a NATO member does the invading. Saudi Arabia is not a member of NATO. The entire dictatorship of Saudi Arabia can be destroyed by Russia without the intervention of NATO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50732251


Russia can't fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia conventionally.
It could use nukes, but not sure would actually do it for Assad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50576485



Russia can EASILY fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia, piece of cake. But we all know who is behind Turkey and Saudi Arabia, not an easy puzzle. If you hit Turkey, they will cry to NATO like babies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71462933


Nope, fighting Turkey and Saudi would be the straw that breaks the bactrian camel's back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50576485


Yep, here's something for clueless Putintards:

Saudi air force:

F-15E: 70+84
F-15C: 86
Typhoon: 72
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Any insights on why they are doing this? What do they hope to accomplish?
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Eretz Israel
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02/13/2016 07:50 AM
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One tactical nuke in Mecca and one in Medina should do the trick.
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02/13/2016 07:53 AM
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The Saudis may stage a hit & run air campaign to support front-line opposition forces in pushing eastward to capture Aleppo while Kurds (backed by Turkish/Saudi ground artillery) move southwest to converge on Aleppo from the opposite front and secure strategic positions along the eastern bank of the Euphrates and Lake Assad.

Of course our military intelligence dictates every move the Saudis and Turks make. They're incapable of critical and creative thought during ordinary circumstances, let alone at this scale.

The entire Syrian conflict revolves around the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. Assad refused to sign an agreement intended to cripple the Russian economy (oil export to EU) and retire them as a world superpower. Putin recognized this plan and the intent of the CIA-led Arab Spring. That's why he seized Crimea (strategic warm-water port).

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AFP news agency ‏@AFP · 1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Ankara says Turkey and Saudi Arabia could launch anti-IS ground operation in Syria
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


How will Saudis and Turks provide air cover for their troops with Russian S-400 missiles owning the skies?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55297076


A battery of S-400s on the exposed coast of Syria means diddlysquat.
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This will be WW3 if Russia then bombs the Saudi Turk ground forces.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71265597


No it wont be WW3.

They are stupid in the West but not that stupid. No one joins WW3 because of the two dictatorships Turkey an Saudi-Barbaria.

The political and economical stability in Europe and USA is far from being that good so that you could sell this as a reason to go to war with the Russians. Public would not swallow it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71443408


Umm. I'm not "selling" anything. Russia themselves said this and we all know how "regional conflicts" go when the big guys get into a "face saving" tit for tat game. One upsmanship would rule the day. Either that or Russia does what they should and stay out of it, but thanks for the input.
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02/13/2016 08:13 AM
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Well that cease-fire story was pure bullshit.
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Russia is about to collapse economically and Putin is in desperate need of a much higher oil price. A war with Saudi-Arabia, with lots of destruction of the oil producing facilities, will bring the price up to $100 again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69282607


So, dickhead, Putin agreed secretly with Turkey and Saudi Arabia to have a war to rise oil prices?


You CAN'T BE that retarded.
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02/13/2016 08:19 AM
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It seems to me that Russia has done an excellent job in thwarting these advances - both in Ukraine and Syria, etc.

But I can't figure their angle on letting the USA and Europe continue to play around in Syria when THEY KNOW that is is counterproductive to their effort. They have even gone as far as to invite them in.

They warn off Turkey and S.A. (with good reason) and STILL refer to america as their "partners".

At what point do they drop the hammer and tell Everybody that if they don;t have a Syrian invite then don't let the door hit your ass on the way out?

Any insights on why they are doing this? What do they hope to accomplish?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71359425

Russia can destroy any invading Turkish and Saudi forces legally without any retaliation from NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance. Article 5 is invoked when a NATO member is invaded, not when a NATO member does the invading. Saudi Arabia is not a member of NATO. The entire dictatorship of Saudi Arabia can be destroyed by Russia without the intervention of NATO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50732251


Russia can't fight Turkey and Saudi Arabia conventionally.
It could use nukes, but not sure would actually do it for Assad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50576485


Probably not in the skies alone but once Russian surface to air systems have decimated any incoming targets. Russia would then be able to clean up, whomever is left in the skies over Syria. We also have Iran, then China, Pakistan and India, who could also be interested in joining Russia ;) if the US/NATO enters the game.. IMHO

Keep the nukes out of it, go conventional, all should be happy. Factories get pumping again, population reduction, bankers get more and an open debate shall start up in the public. It's time to end the war, peace and global governance ;) ;)

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AFP news agency ‏@AFP · 1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Ankara says Turkey and Saudi Arabia could launch anti-IS ground operation in Syria
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How will Saudis and Turks provide air cover for their troops with Russian S-400 missiles owning the skies?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55297076


A battery of S-400s on the exposed coast of Syria means diddlysquat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50576485


Syria also has solid air defense (even more solid than turkish), + there are russian ships around with S300 on them... and tens of russian fighter planes that could decimate turkish air force on their own.
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Is it true S400 radars in aleppo can reach half of turkey, whole of israel, and cyprus?





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