Flat Earth: YES! The Sun DOES visually shrink as it moves away from you during sunset. | |
Sum Ting Wong User ID: 28360484 United States 02/14/2016 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sum Ting Wong Read this, and think about it. Don't watch youtube, just try to come up with a cogent explanation using your own brain. From my elevation on the Big Island of 1200 feet, I have an unobstructed view of the western horizon. I'm at about 19.6 degrees north latitude here, so the earth's circumference is determined by multiplying the cosine of my latitude in degrees by the circumference at the equator, which is about 25,000 miles. That means that at this latitude, the earth's circumference is about 23.492 miles. Since we make one rotation every 24 hours, the velocity of a point on the earth's surface at sea level is about 979 miles per hour, or about 16 miles per minute. Using the Pythagorean theorem, a 6 foot tall person standing at the shoreline here would see the horizon at about 3 miles. Using the same theorem, the horizon at my elevation is 42.5 miles, or about 39.5 miles further than the horizon when viewed from sea level. Since I'm about 4 miles from the shore line, the difference is more like 35 miles from the point of view of an observer on the beach. If you believe that the earth is flat, you'll be surprised to learn that from my elevation the sun sets about 2 minutes later than it does for an observer on the beach. If the earth were flat, the sun couldn't go below the horizon in any scenario, so the fact that it does is very compelling evidence that the earth is not flat. The fact that the horizon is further away for an observer at a greater altitude is very compelling evidence that the earth is a sphere, and the fact that my observations match with these simple calculations is pretty conclusive, even to the simplest minds. Figure out my "river proof" from the other thread your shilling for and I will gladly take a look at your problem. Understand that I have to take you for your word on your "problem". My "river proof" you can do with any river that feeds into a sea or ocean. Could you provide a link or a summary? Cut and paste, maybe? When you say i'm "shilling", what exactly do you mean? From my point of view, I'm taking time that I really should be using more productively to try to explain some very simple concepts. Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. Last Edited by Buck Fiden on 02/14/2016 12:05 AM |
awakesouls User ID: 69362159 United States 02/14/2016 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: awakesouls Figure out my "river proof" from the other thread your shilling for and I will gladly take a look at your problem. Understand that I have to take you for your word on your "problem". My "river proof" you can do with any river that feeds into a sea or ocean. Could you provide a link or a summary? Cut and paste, maybe? When you say i'm "shilling", what exactly do you mean? From my point of view, I'm taking time that I really should be using more productively to try to explain some very simple concepts. Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. Other flat earthers do not like Eric because he calls out shills and he names the conspirators behind the deception. Too many people have been woosified to be able to handle someone delivering the TRUTH in a matter of fact manor. Eric sticks to PROOFS. If he likes you and trusts you he may give you some SPECULATION on some topics if he has some EVIDENCE to lean him one way or the other, but he will TELL EVERYONE that he is SPECULATING. I think 99.9999% of all of the people on PLANE Earth are DECEIVED. Not stupid. I thought I was on a spinning ball 6 months ago. |
awakesouls User ID: 69362159 United States 02/14/2016 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: awakesouls Figure out my "river proof" from the other thread your shilling for and I will gladly take a look at your problem. Understand that I have to take you for your word on your "problem". My "river proof" you can do with any river that feeds into a sea or ocean. Could you provide a link or a summary? Cut and paste, maybe? When you say i'm "shilling", what exactly do you mean? From my point of view, I'm taking time that I really should be using more productively to try to explain some very simple concepts. Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". |
Sum Ting Wong User ID: 28360484 United States 02/14/2016 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sum Ting Wong Could you provide a link or a summary? Cut and paste, maybe? When you say i'm "shilling", what exactly do you mean? From my point of view, I'm taking time that I really should be using more productively to try to explain some very simple concepts. Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". if you believe that, print it out and run it down to the geology department at the nearest university. Sit down with a grad student and walk them through it. If it's as compelling as you believe it is you should have no trouble convincing the whole department. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53182994 South Africa 02/14/2016 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the OP had merit, this would have been used for millennia as evidence in support of the flat earth. The reason that it hasn't is because it belies the evidence of our own eyes. The sun often appears larger at sunrise and sunset due to atmospheric effects. Nearly every living adult has observed this, and most of us find our own observations more convincing than a youtube video. Quoting: Sum Ting Wong If the flat earth model were correct, then the highest elevations, like mountain tops, would be the warmest places on earth. I'm on the Big Island of Hawaii, we have two mountains whose summits are around 13,500 above sea level. They often have snow on them, even though we're relatively near the equator. From my elevation at 1200 feet, I have an unobstructed view of the western horizon. I'm at about 19.6 degrees north latitude here, so the earth's circumference is determined by multiplying the cosine of my latitude in degrees by the circumference at the equator, which is about 25,000 miles. That means that at this latitude, the earth's circumference is about 23.492 miles. Since we make one rotation every 24 hours, the velocity of a point on the earth's surface at sea level is about 979 miles per hour, or about 16 miles per minute. Using the Pythagorean theorem, a 6 foot tall person standing at the shoreline here would see the horizon at about 3 miles. Using the same theorem, the horizon at my elevation is 42.5 miles, or about 39.5 miles further than the horizon when viewed from sea level. Since I'm about 4 miles from the shore line, the difference is more like 35 miles from the point of view of an observer on the beach. If you believe that the earth is flat, you'll be surprised to learn that from my elevation the sun sets about 2 minutes later than it does for an observer on the beach. If the earth were flat, the sun couldn't go below the horizon in any scenario, so the fact that it does is very compelling evidence that the earth is not flat. The fact that the horizon is further away for an observer at a greater altitude is very compelling evidence that the earth is a sphere, and the fact that my observations match with these simple calculations is pretty conclusive, even to the simplest minds. There are over 2,000 manmade satellites, including one that is occupied by humans, orbiting the earth at this moment. In light of these facts, anyone claiming that the earth is any shape other than a globe is denying observable reality. The world can be a scary place, so I guess if you want to live in a fairy tale land that you've made for yourself, you're welcome to it. You might consider consulting your physician about products that might help you cope with the big, scary world. The problem comes when you propagandize others to believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the flat earth, or whatever pretend world you've created for yourselves. If the world were run by people that were as frightened by and out of touch with reality as flat earthers, few of us would be left alive, and whatever survivors remained would be living in a stone age where everyone cowers in their caves eating dirt and grubs. Could you please just stop? How dare you use logic and cold hard facts in a flat earth thread. Remember that flat earth tards ride afrer the setting sun with their unicorns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53182994 South Africa 02/14/2016 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: awakesouls Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". if you believe that, print it out and run it down to the geology department at the nearest university. Sit down with a grad student and walk them through it. If it's as compelling as you believe it is you should have no trouble convincing the whole department. You are wasting your time. Physics has not meaning for these people. Just Google Dunning/Kruger. They just do not know that they do not know, always making basic mistakes in their premises. |
Sum Ting Wong User ID: 28360484 United States 02/14/2016 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sum Ting Wong First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". if you believe that, print it out and run it down to the geology department at the nearest university. Sit down with a grad student and walk them through it. If it's as compelling as you believe it is you should have no trouble convincing the whole department. You are wasting your time. Physics has not meaning for these people. Just Google Dunning/Kruger. They just do not know that they do not know, always making basic mistakes in their premises. I know, I know. You're right. D/K has great explanatory power. I'm an idiot. Wasted so much time. |
awakesouls User ID: 69362159 United States 02/14/2016 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: awakesouls Here is the "river proof" using the Mississippi River as the case study. What I mean by shilling is that you are working pretty hard to tow the institutions line. I understand that you may be genuinely deceived but this is not the first time I have run in to you. [link to imgur.com] First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". if you believe that, print it out and run it down to the geology department at the nearest university. Sit down with a grad student and walk them through it. If it's as compelling as you believe it is you should have no trouble convincing the whole department. I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71129671 Canada 02/14/2016 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Colonel Shinyshoes' psy-op falls flat on its face. Next thing you know, the Colonel will be trying to tell us that the Gulf Stream has stopped, that the country is bankrupt, that the public education system is a complete failure, that LE is militarily equipped to put down hunger riots, that there is dirt on most of Congress keeping them in line, and all kinds of such foolishness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68474440 United States 02/14/2016 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The proof you were shown that it was all a psyop was a crappy one. Here's what you do: Take your cam and go film a sunset. Like this Youtuber did , compare the sizes from your shots. The Sun should be smaller is subsequent frames. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64500133 ITs the glare that makes it look unshrinking. At the one minute mark, you can see the comparitive shots showing the Sun getting smaller: As it should, you're further away from it. Tards will tard. |
Sum Ting Wong User ID: 28360484 United States 02/14/2016 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sum Ting Wong First, you've questioned whether I actually observe what I've very carefully described to you. Can you honestly not see that whether you believe this account or not means absolutely nothing to me? I live here, I've been here off and on since 1999, I've seen what I described to you too many times to count. If you wanted to verify it, you could do it very easily with a few phone calls. Second, the fact that you've "run into" me on other threads means I'm a shill? How, exactly, does that math work? I've been on the forum for years. Finally, the Mississippi River page is just silly. It shows that you don't understand the concepts of sea level and gradient. Sea level is a datum that is a fixed distance from the earth's center. The river would flow from a higher to a lower elevation, as it obviously does. The elevation difference is relative to sea level, and is a function of topography. I really don't know how you can't see this. If this were any sort of evidence that the earth was flat, it's been out there for everyone to see for as long as we've been making maps and topographic maps. Do you think it's possible that the same people that developed the technology to seismically map the subsurface of the seafloor to depths greater than 10,000 feet, that make nuclear power plants, and nuclear densitometers, and scanning electron microscopes, and ground penetrating radar, and flame ionization detectors, etc. etc. etc. could have overlooked this if it were really an obvious proof? In order to believe as you claim that you do, you have to believe that the majority of people on planet earth are lying or stupid or both. Why don't you go speak in person to someone that has actual knowledge about these things? Look them in the eye, see if you can detect their dishonesty. I just talked to a pilot, he usually stays below 30,000 feet but he told me that on rare occasions, he and other pilots had seen the earth's curvature. Find some commercial pilots and ask them. Talk in person, stop watching Dubay videos. If you want to know what a shill is, Eric Dubay is the quintessential example. Even the other flat earthers don't trust him and you can verify that with a few clicks of your mouse. And that datum line is the blue water in the bottom diagram. Those are circles drawn from a center point in Sketchup. All those people that you are saying must of "missed it", "missed it". if you believe that, print it out and run it down to the geology department at the nearest university. Sit down with a grad student and walk them through it. If it's as compelling as you believe it is you should have no trouble convincing the whole department. I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. Hopefully you're lying. If this idiocy is really propagating, the earth is headed back into the dark ages. |
Hydra User ID: 71465048 Germany 02/14/2016 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. Quoting: awakesouls At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71470414 Tunisia 02/14/2016 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any differences in their appartent diameters is entirely due to atmospheric effects, such as lensing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51414575 The moran's cell phone vid will show a larger, brighter looking sun overhead since it is seen through less atmosphere (maybe 70 miles) with powerful glare blooming the CCD chip, than when it is sinking in the west, dimming and at a long angle and seen through hundreds of miles of air. The dimmer moon looks bigger on the horizon than when it is directly overhead, due to lensing, not lens flare like the sun. This stupidity has gone way too far. I hope young people and students aren't being confused by the complex mind-game these shills are running. Atmosphere... The answer to any question. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66546548 United States 02/14/2016 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guy, but this is bs. Why? Because if it was what you think it was guess what? IT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DAY. In the FE model the sun doesn't just 'go away at sunset', it is CONSTANTLY CHANGING its position, moving further from you and then closer. In other words, YOU WOULD SEE THE SUN START OUT REALLY SMALL IN THE MORNING THEN GET BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL NOONISH THEN GRADUALLY DECREASE ALL THE TIME UNTIL SUNSET. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64851752 That's not what we observe, so what you're posting now must be due to atmospheric effects. I really believe that the FE theory is meant to predate on those lacking critical thinking skills. "Oooh look a youtube, welp that's it. I accept this now with NO CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER. Come get me jesus take me from this flat earth that I'm so easily convinced of to your presumably flat heaven. Because god can write a book 2000+ years ago to predict the future and show the glory of the Earth in all its flatness, but he can't make a sphere so he must make a giant tennis court." This is why I always dismiss flat Earth, because whenever I bring up a true, reasonable objection there is always silence. No one ever bothers to respond. Then the next time they're like, 'do more research'...GTFO! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71470414 Tunisia 02/14/2016 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. Quoting: awakesouls At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? :southpolestars: . This escaped sufficient notice: [link to www.nytimes.com] What doesn't exist is round. What exists is flat. The galaxies are flat, the universe is eerily flat and yet, somehow, at another, smaller scale, and owing to the same laws, your gravity in particular, things are round: [link to medium.com (secure)] Learn how to read research papers. As an idolater you have to ascribe more reality, dimensions, to your flat idols. The sky is made of solid material and we're sort of like in the belly of a great sea monster, which is Satan's shadow, space-time is a beast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22037631 Canada 02/14/2016 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guy, but this is bs. Why? Because if it was what you think it was guess what? IT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DAY. In the FE model the sun doesn't just 'go away at sunset', it is CONSTANTLY CHANGING its position, moving further from you and then closer. In other words, YOU WOULD SEE THE SUN START OUT REALLY SMALL IN THE MORNING THEN GET BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL NOONISH THEN GRADUALLY DECREASE ALL THE TIME UNTIL SUNSET. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64851752 That's not what we observe, so what you're posting now must be due to atmospheric effects. I really believe that the FE theory is meant to predate on those lacking critical thinking skills. "Oooh look a youtube, welp that's it. I accept this now with NO CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER. Come get me jesus take me from this flat earth that I'm so easily convinced of to your presumably flat heaven. Because god can write a book 2000+ years ago to predict the future and show the glory of the Earth in all its flatness, but he can't make a sphere so he must make a giant tennis court." This is why I always dismiss flat Earth, because whenever I bring up a true, reasonable objection there is always silence. No one ever bothers to respond. Then the next time they're like, 'do more research'...GTFO! Actually, you're just a fucking idiot. Understand vanishing point human perspective. On flat ground you see about 3-4 miles to the horizon and you expect to see a noon sun that's over the Pacific? Go learn. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22037631 Canada 02/14/2016 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guy, but this is bs. Why? Because if it was what you think it was guess what? IT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DAY. In the FE model the sun doesn't just 'go away at sunset', it is CONSTANTLY CHANGING its position, moving further from you and then closer. In other words, YOU WOULD SEE THE SUN START OUT REALLY SMALL IN THE MORNING THEN GET BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL NOONISH THEN GRADUALLY DECREASE ALL THE TIME UNTIL SUNSET. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64851752 That's not what we observe, so what you're posting now must be due to atmospheric effects. I really believe that the FE theory is meant to predate on those lacking critical thinking skills. "Oooh look a youtube, welp that's it. I accept this now with NO CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER. Come get me jesus take me from this flat earth that I'm so easily convinced of to your presumably flat heaven. Because god can write a book 2000+ years ago to predict the future and show the glory of the Earth in all its flatness, but he can't make a sphere so he must make a giant tennis court." This is why I always dismiss flat Earth, because whenever I bring up a true, reasonable objection there is always silence. No one ever bothers to respond. Then the next time they're like, 'do more research'...GTFO! Actually, you're just a fucking idiot. Understand vanishing point human perspective. On flat ground you see about 3-4 miles to the horizon and you expect to see a noon sun that's over the Pacific? Go learn. The video in the op shows the sun growing and shrinking. That's impossible with a sun 93m miles asay |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65382363 United States 02/14/2016 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. Quoting: awakesouls At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? :southpolestars: . This escaped sufficient notice: [link to www.nytimes.com] What doesn't exist is round. What exists is flat. The galaxies are flat, the universe is eerily flat and yet, somehow, at another, smaller scale, and owing to the same laws, your gravity in particular, things are round: [link to medium.com (secure)] Learn how to read research papers. As an idolater you have to ascribe more reality, dimensions, to your flat idols. The sky is made of solid material and we're sort of like in the belly of a great sea monster, which is Satan's shadow, space-time is a beast. Uhh.. No? Galaxies may be on a plane, but the thickness of said planes are still there. In ridiculous amounts compared to what you can measure. Not even a Frisbee is flat mate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71470414 Tunisia 02/14/2016 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. I am currently teaching a class at my church on flat earth and I have just been asked to present at a Sunday mass. The lid is going to blow off of flat earth in the next couple of weeks. It is going to be mass media news within the next couple of months. There is a whole wave of people that were exposed to "flat earth" recently with the B.O.B thing. Couple of months from now when they have done their research and have locked in their understanding of the world we live on we will see a big influx of flat earthers. Each one will be ready to stand up just like B.O.B did. Quoting: awakesouls At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? :southpolestars: . This escaped sufficient notice: [link to www.nytimes.com] What doesn't exist is round. What exists is flat. The galaxies are flat, the universe is eerily flat and yet, somehow, at another, smaller scale, and owing to the same laws, your gravity in particular, things are round: [link to medium.com (secure)] Learn how to read research papers. As an idolater you have to ascribe more reality, dimensions, to your flat idols. The sky is made of solid material and we're sort of like in the belly of a great sea monster, which is Satan's shadow, space-time is a beast. Uhh.. No? Galaxies may be on a plane, but the thickness of said planes are still there. In ridiculous amounts compared to what you can measure. Not even a Frisbee is flat mate. Said thickness' ratio to the width or height of the sets, whether galaxies or the observable universe, is vanishingly small. These bodies are for all intents and purposes flat, and miraculously, abnormally so. Tel est pris qui croyait prendre. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66546548 United States 02/14/2016 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guy, but this is bs. Why? Because if it was what you think it was guess what? IT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DAY. In the FE model the sun doesn't just 'go away at sunset', it is CONSTANTLY CHANGING its position, moving further from you and then closer. In other words, YOU WOULD SEE THE SUN START OUT REALLY SMALL IN THE MORNING THEN GET BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL NOONISH THEN GRADUALLY DECREASE ALL THE TIME UNTIL SUNSET. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64851752 That's not what we observe, so what you're posting now must be due to atmospheric effects. I really believe that the FE theory is meant to predate on those lacking critical thinking skills. "Oooh look a youtube, welp that's it. I accept this now with NO CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER. Come get me jesus take me from this flat earth that I'm so easily convinced of to your presumably flat heaven. Because god can write a book 2000+ years ago to predict the future and show the glory of the Earth in all its flatness, but he can't make a sphere so he must make a giant tennis court." This is why I always dismiss flat Earth, because whenever I bring up a true, reasonable objection there is always silence. No one ever bothers to respond. Then the next time they're like, 'do more research'...GTFO! Actually, you're just a fucking idiot. Understand vanishing point human perspective. On flat ground you see about 3-4 miles to the horizon and you expect to see a noon sun that's over the Pacific? Go learn. What? This isn't about vanishing point, the point where the sun meets the horizon. This is about the fact that the sun is supposedly constantly in motion directly above us in a circle. Which would mean that it would CONSTANTLY be decreasing its distance from an observer for half the day then decreasing its distance for the other half. BUT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. The sun is a constant size throughout the day. I'm not even going into the sunsets I've personally watched. Its funny that you must resort to name calling, it shows that you KNOW that you cannot win on the merits of your arguments. Furthermore, you can see FAR FURTHER than 3-4 miles unobstructed. I don't even understand what your last sentence means. So you're saying when the sun is over the pacific I shouldn't be able to see it for some reason??? Just because I can only see '3-4 miles' on flat ground? That is the most retarded logic I've ever heard, and it brings me to what really sealed the deal for me on the 'flat earth' nonsense. Clearly, if the sun didn't actually set but only got further and further away GUESS WHAT GENIUS IT WOULD ALWAYS BE DAYTIME. NIGHTTIME WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THE SUN WOULD ALWAYS BE AT A POSITIVE ANGLE RELATIVE TO THE FLAT PLANE ABOVE WHICH IT CIRCUMNAVIGATES. Take a flashlight and get a table. Turn it on and start simulating the flat Earth. Put your head at table level (get a friend for the flashlight). Notice that *NO MATTER HOW BIG THE TABLE* You can ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS see the flash light. Why? Because there's nothing obstructing your view. In the FE the sun is supposed to be 3000 miles or so away. There are no mountains 3000 miles tall, no buildings either. So what causes night? On the round earth, the night is caused be the rotation of the planet and the planet blocking the sun. This is what we observe. Darkness. YOU CANNOT HAVE THAT ON A FLAT EARTH WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T ACTUALLY SET. A 5 year old could figure that out, why are you so hell-bent on ignoring it? Because you're paid to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66546548 United States 02/14/2016 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? :southpolestars: . This escaped sufficient notice: [link to www.nytimes.com] What doesn't exist is round. What exists is flat. The galaxies are flat, the universe is eerily flat and yet, somehow, at another, smaller scale, and owing to the same laws, your gravity in particular, things are round: [link to medium.com (secure)] Learn how to read research papers. As an idolater you have to ascribe more reality, dimensions, to your flat idols. The sky is made of solid material and we're sort of like in the belly of a great sea monster, which is Satan's shadow, space-time is a beast. Uhh.. No? Galaxies may be on a plane, but the thickness of said planes are still there. In ridiculous amounts compared to what you can measure. Not even a Frisbee is flat mate. Said thickness' ratio to the width or height of the sets, whether galaxies or the observable universe, is vanishingly small. These bodies are for all intents and purposes flat, and miraculously, abnormally so. Tel est pris qui croyait prendre. No they are not. Stars extend many thousands of light years above the galatic plane, they are however outshone and difficult to see by the denser, brighter stars on the ecliptic. Furthermore, NOT ALL GALAXIES ARE 'FLAT' like that. Older galaxies look like balls. And finally, the center of the galaxy is not flat either but bulging...so you're wrong on just about every level. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65382363 United States 02/14/2016 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra At my location Polaris is 53 deg above the horizon. On a holiday in Finland it was 66 deg above the horizon. The further north, the higher Polaris is in the sky. The opposite happens when I traveled to the south. In Naples, Italy it is only 41 deg above the horizon - Manamah, Bahrain 26 deg - Mumbai, India 19 deg - Colombo, Sri Lanka 7 deg. And south of the equator, e.g. in Surabaya, Indonesia, it isn't visible any more. And no, it is not because of more air, dust or whatever between the observer and Polaris - Polaris keeps its magnitude of around 2, regardless where in the northern hemisphere you are. On the other hand more and more stars from the southern hemisphere are visible when you travel south. Please explain this. And don't forget to explain this to your Sunday class. And then there is still the question, the Flat Earth tards avoid like the devil avoids the holy water: How do you make photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on a Flat Earth, e.g. the photo Dr. Astro made on his trip to South Africa? :southpolestars: . This escaped sufficient notice: [link to www.nytimes.com] What doesn't exist is round. What exists is flat. The galaxies are flat, the universe is eerily flat and yet, somehow, at another, smaller scale, and owing to the same laws, your gravity in particular, things are round: [link to medium.com (secure)] Learn how to read research papers. As an idolater you have to ascribe more reality, dimensions, to your flat idols. The sky is made of solid material and we're sort of like in the belly of a great sea monster, which is Satan's shadow, space-time is a beast. Uhh.. No? Galaxies may be on a plane, but the thickness of said planes are still there. In ridiculous amounts compared to what you can measure. Not even a Frisbee is flat mate. Said thickness' ratio to the width or height of the sets, whether galaxies or the observable universe, is vanishingly small. These bodies are for all intents and purposes flat, and miraculously, abnormally so. Tel est pris qui croyait prendre. Except "almost flat" doesn't mean "flat". The thickness of galaxies is more akin to two saucers placed with the open sides together. It is not flat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71470414 Tunisia 02/14/2016 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and it brings me to what really sealed the deal for me on the 'flat earth' nonsense." The science is settled, right? [link to www.scientificamerican.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66546548 United States 02/14/2016 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry guy, but this is bs. Why? Because if it was what you think it was guess what? IT WOULD HAPPEN ALL DAY. In the FE model the sun doesn't just 'go away at sunset', it is CONSTANTLY CHANGING its position, moving further from you and then closer. In other words, YOU WOULD SEE THE SUN START OUT REALLY SMALL IN THE MORNING THEN GET BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL NOONISH THEN GRADUALLY DECREASE ALL THE TIME UNTIL SUNSET. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64851752 That's not what we observe, so what you're posting now must be due to atmospheric effects. I really believe that the FE theory is meant to predate on those lacking critical thinking skills. "Oooh look a youtube, welp that's it. I accept this now with NO CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER. Come get me jesus take me from this flat earth that I'm so easily convinced of to your presumably flat heaven. Because god can write a book 2000+ years ago to predict the future and show the glory of the Earth in all its flatness, but he can't make a sphere so he must make a giant tennis court." This is why I always dismiss flat Earth, because whenever I bring up a true, reasonable objection there is always silence. No one ever bothers to respond. Then the next time they're like, 'do more research'...GTFO! Actually, you're just a fucking idiot. Understand vanishing point human perspective. On flat ground you see about 3-4 miles to the horizon and you expect to see a noon sun that's over the Pacific? Go learn. The video in the op shows the sun growing and shrinking. That's impossible with a sun 93m miles asay No its not 'impossible' just like a sun dog isn't impossible. Its an atmospheric effect. The atmosphere is several times thicker at the horizon than above it so the light passes through more air and has all kinds of weird lensing effects. Seriously have you guys never watched a sunset with your own eyes? Due to the greater amount of atmosphere you can actually WATCH THE DAMN THING directly without eye protection. I've done this several times and it never appeared to get smaller to me. Furthermore, you have to explain why it goes away. It would not disappear completely because it would always have an angle above the horizon. That 'vanishing point argument is bullshit because you can see stars on the horizon and they are much further away than the sun is. *cue* oh they're just spotlights. -_____- even if they were just spotlights, you shouldn't be able to see them due to 'vanishing point' either as they're still further away than the sun is. No rebuttals that are based on speculation please. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65382363 United States 02/14/2016 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and it brings me to what really sealed the deal for me on the 'flat earth' nonsense." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71470414 The science is settled, right? [link to www.scientificamerican.com] What does a document about not finding a link between mankind and climate change have to do with a flat Earth? Yes, the planet goes through natural heating and cooling cycles. To keep thinking we control the planets natural functions is a dead end of scientific study. But still, how is this supposed to relate to flat Earth? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66546548 United States 02/14/2016 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and it brings me to what really sealed the deal for me on the 'flat earth' nonsense." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71470414 The science is settled, right? [link to www.scientificamerican.com] It has nothing to do with 'science' or 'settled theories' and everything to do with simple geometry and angles. I implore you to attempt the experiment I described with your friends. YOU WILL QUICKLY BE CONVINCED that the flat Earth does not ever match with our observations. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE SUN TO DISAPPEAR FROM VIEW IF IT IS NOT BEING OBSTRUCTED BY SOMETHING. *IM-FUCKING-POSSIBLE*!!! |