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Nevertheless, the Obama administration’s aggressive use of executive orders to unconstitutionally bypass Congress and enact its own “environmental” regulations indicates that we can expect an intensification of the adversarial attitude by federal agencies toward ranchers, farmers, and rural property owners. The EPA’s new “Waters of the United States” (WOTUS) interpretation, all by itself, guarantees collisions between federal authorities and property owners. According to Obama’s EPA, even dry land miles from any “navigable waters” is still subject to EPA’s arbitrary and capricious jurisdiction because the rainwater that sinks into the ground is somehow connected to navigable waters. This virtually guarantees an escalation of tensions and a certainty of more confrontations that could turn violent.
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And let's not give Congress a free pass on this. Congress can stop it if they would stop funding all of his agencies. Instead, they have chosen to abdicate their power and authority to him.
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I don't know why. They live in this Country, too.
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They don't care about this country. Their assets are elsewhere. These people are so incredibly evil, that most of them hate America and could careless about what happens to us or the land.
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I am not certain, but I believe that Obama's EO is in response to Congress making moves this summer that would restrict executive ability to designate National Monuments with no Congressional input, doing so under the Antiquities Act.

Since he has been blocked from further grabbing enormous tracts of land by designating them National Monuments, a move to bypass those roadblocks is to be expected, even if this current one isn't it.

Here are some links:

Obama Designates Three New National Monuments

By H. Sterling Burnett on 7.29.15 | 4:58PM


Over the objections of many local, state and federal legislators from the affected areas, in early July, President Barack Obama designated new national monuments in California, Nevada and Texas.

The designation of more than 1,000,000 acres of public lands as national monuments, foreclosed previously allowed commercial and recreational activities of those lands, leading some Republicans and local officials to accuse Obama of a backdoor land grab ignoring the interests of local residents.

Obama’s designation of Nevada’s Basin and Range site as a national monument was seen as a going away present to retiring Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, who had been seeking monument status for the area for years. Obama also set aside more than 330,000 acres as the Berryessa Snow Mountain Monument in Northern California. In addition, the President established the Waco Mammoth National Monument, a comparatively small site in central Texas,...
...
Taking a more comprehensive approach, Senate Bill 437, the Improved National Monument Designation Process Act, has been introduced to end the executive branch’s unilateral authority to declare monuments, requiring approval from Congress and any affected states before federal land can be designated a monument.
[link to spectator.org]


Obama to create new national monuments in Texas, California, Nevada

WASHINGTON -- Mammoth bones, prehistoric rock carvings and more than a million acres of wilderness will be protected as part of three new national monuments that President Barack Obama is creating in California, Nevada and Texas.
...

The presidential move, announced by the White House early Friday, brings to 19 the number of monuments that Obama has created or expanded since taking office. Environmental advocates hailed the new monuments as bringing sorely needed protection to natural American treasures, even as Republicans in Congress were pursuing legislation to stop the president....

Some Republicans have complained for years that Obama has abused his authority to designate monuments. In anticipation of Obama's move, this week Nevada Rep. Cresent Hardy introduced an amendment to an Interior Department bill that would block Obama from creating monuments in areas where there's been local opposition. His amendment, which successfully made its way into the bill, lists counties in Nevada, Arizona, California, New Mexico, Oregon and Utah as off-limits.

"Any decisions that restrict ranching, recreation or other types of land-use activities should have as much local input as possible," Hardy said, adding that the amendment was "about empowering local communities and local stakeholders most affected by monument designations."
[link to www.cbsnews.com]


Hardy amendment for national monument transparency, local input adopted
July 8, 2015
Press Release

WASHINGTON, D.C. – An amendment by Congressman Cresent Hardy (NV-4) to mandate transparency and local input for national monument designations under the Antiquities Act, in counties where there is significant local opposition, was adopted today into H.R. 2822, the FY16 Interior and Environment Appropriations Bill.
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Remember when everyone thought Bush was guna solidify himself as dictator with stuff like pdd51? Same shiz dif year. I really think that they keep conspiracy theorists as busy as they can, so people don't focus on Actions and start changing communities with natural medicines and stuff. Now that would have more of an impact than any bill or law.
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You are right about natural medicines, and I have led my community to identifying edible plants on our properties, along with our natural herbal medicines right here on our land.

The expedition was covered in our local newspaper.
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The Interior Department post has traditionally gone to a politician from the Western United States, like Mr. Salazar, a former senator from Colorado. Under President George W. Bush, Gale A. Norton, a former attorney general of Colorado, and Dirk Kempthorne, a former governor and senator from Idaho, served in the position.

Ms. Jewell, if confirmed, would represent a different model, a corporate executive with experience in both resource exploitation and conservation.

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I am not certain, but I believe that Obama's EO is in response to Congress making moves this summer that would restrict executive ability to designate National Monuments with no Congressional input, doing so under the Antiquities Act.

Since he has been blocked from further grabbing enormous tracts of land by designating them National Monuments, a move to bypass those roadblocks is to be expected, even if this current one isn't it.

Here are some links:

Obama Designates Three New National Monuments

By H. Sterling Burnett on 7.29.15 | 4:58PM


Over the objections of many local, state and federal legislators from the affected areas, in early July, President Barack Obama designated new national monuments in California, Nevada and Texas.

The designation of more than 1,000,000 acres of public lands as national monuments, foreclosed previously allowed commercial and recreational activities of those lands, leading some Republicans and local officials to accuse Obama of a backdoor land grab ignoring the interests of local residents.

Obama’s designation of Nevada’s Basin and Range site as a national monument was seen as a going away present to retiring Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, who had been seeking monument status for the area for years. Obama also set aside more than 330,000 acres as the Berryessa Snow Mountain Monument in Northern California. In addition, the President established the Waco Mammoth National Monument, a comparatively small site in central Texas,...
...
Taking a more comprehensive approach, Senate Bill 437, the Improved National Monument Designation Process Act, has been introduced to end the executive branch’s unilateral authority to declare monuments, requiring approval from Congress and any affected states before federal land can be designated a monument.
[link to spectator.org]


Obama to create new national monuments in Texas, California, Nevada

WASHINGTON -- Mammoth bones, prehistoric rock carvings and more than a million acres of wilderness will be protected as part of three new national monuments that President Barack Obama is creating in California, Nevada and Texas.
...

The presidential move, announced by the White House early Friday, brings to 19 the number of monuments that Obama has created or expanded since taking office. Environmental advocates hailed the new monuments as bringing sorely needed protection to natural American treasures, even as Republicans in Congress were pursuing legislation to stop the president....

Some Republicans have complained for years that Obama has abused his authority to designate monuments. In anticipation of Obama's move, this week Nevada Rep. Cresent Hardy introduced an amendment to an Interior Department bill that would block Obama from creating monuments in areas where there's been local opposition. His amendment, which successfully made its way into the bill, lists counties in Nevada, Arizona, California, New Mexico, Oregon and Utah as off-limits.

"Any decisions that restrict ranching, recreation or other types of land-use activities should have as much local input as possible," Hardy said, adding that the amendment was "about empowering local communities and local stakeholders most affected by monument designations."
[link to www.cbsnews.com]


Hardy amendment for national monument transparency, local input adopted
July 8, 2015
Press Release

WASHINGTON, D.C. – An amendment by Congressman Cresent Hardy (NV-4) to mandate transparency and local input for national monument designations under the Antiquities Act, in counties where there is significant local opposition, was adopted today into H.R. 2822, the FY16 Interior and Environment Appropriations Bill.
[link to hardy.house.gov (secure)]
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You are right, Lily, and thank you for covering this.
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Evil sleeps well at night, snoring softly on her pillow

and his pillow, for men are evil under a female leader, more easily one assumes.

It is the paycheck, of that man, some trooper of highways, some mercenary who is "smarter" than his old commanders

The paycheck of the merc and the criminal, becomes the nothing on your table.
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Someone needs to ask Trump what he thinks about it.He is a real estate man.Im wondering would he be for it or not.And the way he goes after issues it sure would get publically known.It would get the pot stirred so to speak, which needs doing NOW !!!
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And will be free.

Thus freeing us from all lawyers.
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Thank you. I was not familiar with this.
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Obama is scoring points to secure his seat at the UN after his presidency.

Just another executive order Trump will undo when he is president!
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Someone needs to ask Trump what he thinks about it.He is a real estate man.Im wondering would he be for it or not.And the way he goes after issues it sure would get publically known.It would get the pot stirred so to speak, which needs doing NOW !!!
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You are right.
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[link to www.thenewamerican.com]

Nevertheless, the Obama administration’s aggressive use of executive orders to unconstitutionally bypass Congress and enact its own “environmental” regulations indicates that we can expect an intensification of the adversarial attitude by federal agencies toward ranchers, farmers, and rural property owners. The EPA’s new “Waters of the United States” (WOTUS) interpretation, all by itself, guarantees collisions between federal authorities and property owners. According to Obama’s EPA, even dry land miles from any “navigable waters” is still subject to EPA’s arbitrary and capricious jurisdiction because the rainwater that sinks into the ground is somehow connected to navigable waters. This virtually guarantees an escalation of tensions and a certainty of more confrontations that could turn violent.
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And let's not give Congress a free pass on this. Congress can stop it if they would stop funding all of his agencies. Instead, they have chosen to abdicate their power and authority to him.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon

I don't know why. They live in this Country, too.
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They don't care about this country. Their assets are elsewhere. These people are so incredibly evil, that most of them hate America and could careless about what happens to us or the land.
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They know what most of you refuse to accept, that this is a Reptilian race of beings running this show, and they have legions of demons infesting these people. The only ones who can stop this are the common man en mass, it's the only way.
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RIP Aaron Schwarz

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And will be free.

Thus freeing us from all lawyers.
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Thank you. I was not familiar with this.
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Yes,

PACER, the very bible of "the rule of law" which all these assholes love to say all them time "we are a nation of LAWS"

Well the cult of BAR charges some outrageous number of cents PER PAGE PER PAGE to read what happens in court.

Thus, these same enshitters of IP network, will find themselves tightly all tucked into Hillary's bathroom. I can stuff 1000 lawyers into one bathroom, all you need is to have a large enough disaster to lure them in there, LOL
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Someone needs to ask Trump what he thinks about it.He is a real estate man.Im wondering would he be for it or not.And the way he goes after issues it sure would get publically known.It would get the pot stirred so to speak, which needs doing NOW !!!
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Way too hot he won't touch it

His class drool at free rural land or housing, the landlords of America, LOL fuck them.
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Someone needs to ask Trump what he thinks about it.He is a real estate man.Im wondering would he be for it or not.And the way he goes after issues it sure would get publically known.It would get the pot stirred so to speak, which needs doing NOW !!!
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You are right.
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He's stated several times he's Pro Eminent Domain, why wouldn't he be pro land grab.
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Thank you for this link. We need to be mindful of what Hillary did to the United States when she gave Russia 20% of our uranium output.

We could be nuked someday with our own uranium. It is unbelievable, but she did get $145million for the Clinton Foundation.

I cannot believe this woman could actually be our next President by some trick of the devil!
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I wonder if there is ANYTHING that would cause the american people to go hot operational civil war?

At this point I really dont think so.

OFCOURSE DONT THREATEN ANYONE . Thats what MW thinks im trying to get you to do when i post like this.

Nope. I just everyday am brought to new levels of astonishment at our weak cowardly apathy.

You people with kids. I dont know how you can look in your kids face without bursting into tears from shame.
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Someone needs to ask Trump what he thinks about it.He is a real estate man.Im wondering would he be for it or not.And the way he goes after issues it sure would get publically known.It would get the pot stirred so to speak, which needs doing NOW !!!
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You are right.
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He's stated several times he's Pro Eminent Domain, why wouldn't he be pro land grab.
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There is some difference. Just because someone is pro-eminent domain does not mean they can go in with guns and gundown someone who will not sell their property.

The woman Trump tried to use eminent domain against did not lose her property.

The Bureau of Land Management is unlawful and just goes in and does what is beyond the law.

Eminent domain is within the law.

That is just my opinion, although I do not believe in eminent domain myself.
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I wonder if there is ANYTHING that would cause the american people to go hot operational civil war?

At this point I really dont think so.

OFCOURSE DONT THREATEN ANYONE . Thats what MW thinks im trying to get you to do when i post like this.

Nope. I just everyday am brought to new levels of astonishment at our weak cowardly apathy.

You people with kids. I dont know how you can look in your kids face without bursting into tears from shame.
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I know you are law abiding and will not threaten anyone. None of us would do that.

We are all only practicing our Free Speech First Amendment Rights and having a mindful but respectful discussion.
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So called "rent" is meant logically and by all good measure, to feed the rented space with upgrades, and eventually, no rent.

So, this 'landlord' class which uses rent wrongly,

must go.
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Now this scares me.

Can you imagine the restrictions that could be put in place?

Now More Than Ever: TRUMP
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He's already tried to take control of ALL water ways, creeks, streams, and standing water in the United States through the EPA, which SCOTUS has put a halt to as an unconstitutional power grab.
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Those indians in the area should have stood in solidarity.

A real opportunity wasted out there in burns, and so the federal machine keeps chewing up America.
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All they care about now are their casinos.
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The indigenous cultures were destroyed early on in the Indian wars in the 1800s. Nearly wiped out and put on poor land because the Europeans wanted the good land. There was nothing left and the generations since have had to deal with the gov. to exist. They are born and raised on the gov welfare programs. The casinos are a recent thing and still, are subject to someones politics. The Indians as a whole are not in a position to fight the gov any better, it would seem, than the rest of us. This is going to take some tremendous organization and execution of better thought out plans than those of late.
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Remember when everyone thought Bush was guna solidify himself as dictator with stuff like pdd51? Same shiz dif year. I really think that they keep conspiracy theorists as busy as they can, so people don't focus on Actions and start changing communities with natural medicines and stuff. Now that would have more of an impact than any bill or law.
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Natural medicines would dramatically change the future of America. Right now we are on a steep downhill collapse due to the widespread state of mediocre to poor health 80% of the people suffer from.

Natural medicine would save trillions of dollars directly and boost the economy immeasurably due to the increased vibrancy of the nation.

Yes, the present medical industry would be crushed, but the improved health of everyone would counter those looses many times over.

Meanwhile, it is imperative that we lock out the illegals and ship the illegals who are here out of the country. Otherwise we would end up with a permanent leftist Democrat stranglehold on US policies.
Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved.





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