Sandy Hook: How many victims were in Room 10? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34408356 United States 06/26/2016 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's probably safe to presume that the three kids left in the bathroom--left both by Cario, and then again by Reed--had some kind of obviously fatal wounds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34408356 Or rather were obviously deceased, one way or another. The passage of time could have been responsible, even for non-immediately lethal wounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34408356 United States 06/26/2016 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But this is the room 8 situation; under discussion in this thread (granted, it's all related) is why so very few patients were reported in Room 10. As few as one child, possibly, or only two. Where are the remaining 3-4 victims from Room 10? Clearly they were taken to hospital by squad car, just as (some) police and some victim family members always said they were. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50359138 United States 06/27/2016 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the Lewis' case against Newtown, a claim is made that the family incurred medical expenses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50359138 How is this possible if Jesse wasn't transported? [link to civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov] See esp "Complaint" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72277946 Netherlands 06/27/2016 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per the FBI 2012 annual report ZERO murders in Newtown, Connecticut. So NO VICTIMS were in Room 10. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68075432 What do I win? [link to www.fbi.gov (secure)] The bot award. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72277946 Netherlands 06/27/2016 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These were the Room 10 child victims: Engel Lewis Hockley Wyatt Richman FIVE children. Yet police described only TWO lying in the room. From Room 10, Lewis filed suit. From Room 8, Pozner filed suit along with Lewis; actually, Bacon established estate before ANYone else. At any rate, all but TWO children in Room 10 were transported. Who? Well, we know Lewis for sure (suit included "medical expenses.") |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74243979 United States 02/27/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did the three child victims go, and who took them? Very likely at least two of them were those listed by a state police officer as having been "transported to Danbury Hospital" in the back of a police SUV; that SUV was later brought back for decontamination. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68664410 United States 04/04/2017 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vanghele: "To the best of my recollection there were only four bodies in the room with the suspect."Th[redacted]XXXXXXXX. There was another child and adult combination further into the room." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71073009 Clearly the redacted part describes the first "child and adult combination." This means Vanghele saw TWO CHILDREN ONLY in Room 10. Benecchi: "...several children." I think we may now have an answer: Some of the Room 10 children ran into Room 12; not only that, but some where there when the door was "kicked in," and survived to tell about it, but some didn't make it out alive. Here is Vicki's class of 16 children: [link to images.lpcdn.ca] Vanghele: "To the best of my recollection there were only four bodies in the room with the suspect."Th[redacted]XXXXXXXX. There was another child and adult combination further into the room." Clearly the redacted part describes the first "child and adult combination." This means Vanghele saw TWO CHILDREN ONLY in Room 10. Benecchi: "...several children." For Soto's class (L-R), we have: 1. Wyatt 2. Ehrens-survived 3. Soriano-survived 4. Tarpey-survived 5. Olam-survived 6. Richman 7. Maksel-survived 8. Engel(?) 9. Lewis 10. Hockley 11. Posey-survived 12. Rojas-survived 13. Haddick-survived 14. Lavelle-survived 15. Salamy-survived 16. Licata-survived If the (leading) official story is true, the following victims should have been in Room 10: Wyatt, Richman, Engel, Lewis, Hockley Engel was said to have been transported, leaving: Wyatt Richman Lewis Hockley That's two of these four children missing when Vanghele made his count (we don't really know whether his count was made before or after Engel was taken out). We do know that Hull reported Vanghele himself carrying a child out: "Sometime later, I saw Lt. Vanghele carry a small child out of the school in his arms and headed towards the ambulance. I then saw a female that was being pushed on a chair and put in the back of the Lieutenant's vehicle and then head off towards the ambulance." (00002101 Hull) This is not Engel, because Chapman carried her out while Vanghele held the door; Chapman continued to run across the parking lot with the child, while Vanghele ran near him carrying no victim. So, Vanghele's carrying of a child is a different child, and one who Vanghele carried out BEFORE Hammond was pushed out of the school. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74449862 United States 04/05/2017 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | too many conflicting scripts. I think it was intentional anyways just to cause confusion with all the misreporting starting early in the day. The two suspects in the woods, Adam's mom being a teacher, Ryan and Peter both being found dead, etc. etc. etc. All a bunch of hogwash! And then you have shills like zephyr that constantly indulge on her fake news theory..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36982324 United States 04/05/2017 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a simple problem. Two of the following children were taken out of Room 10 by police; police then lied about having taken them out. Wyatt Richman Lewis Hockley Not all police lied in the same manner; Vanghele, Cario, Benecchi and others make it clear, to the careful reader, that something was very wrong with the victim count (and manner of death) in Room 10. Of the above children, Lewis' ballistics exhibit is missing from the inventory; he is also the ONLY victim, besides the shooter, to have "GSW to the head" as cause of death. Wyatt's ballistics exhibit is also missing. Of the above children, Richman is the only victim whose Anatomic Diagnosis/Findings (related to cause of death, but more detailed) is missing from the record. Dylan Hockley, in fact, is the only child victim of Room 10 who has a complete, unremarkable record in the final report (nothing missing; cause of death not an outlier). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74631334 United States 04/07/2017 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a simple problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982324 Two of the following children were taken out of Room 10 by police; police then lied about having taken them out. Wyatt Richman Lewis Hockley Not all police lied in the same manner; Vanghele, Cario, Benecchi and others make it clear, to the careful reader, that something was very wrong with the victim count (and manner of death) in Room 10. Of the above children, Lewis' ballistics exhibit is missing from the inventory; he is also the ONLY victim, besides the shooter, to have "GSW to the head" as cause of death. Wyatt's ballistics exhibit is also missing. Of the above children, Richman is the only victim whose Anatomic Diagnosis/Findings (related to cause of death, but more detailed) is missing from the record. Dylan Hockley, in fact, is the only child victim of Room 10 who has a complete, unremarkable record in the final report (nothing missing; cause of death not an outlier). We must also keep in mind that not only Room 10 had a victim problem, but Room 8 as well--although the confusing numbers given by the officers in Room 8 could have reflected an attempt to hide the missing Room 10 children. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74631334 United States 04/07/2017 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a simple problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982324 Two of the following children were taken out of Room 10 by police; police then lied about having taken them out. Wyatt Richman Lewis Hockley Not all police lied in the same manner; Vanghele, Cario, Benecchi and others make it clear, to the careful reader, that something was very wrong with the victim count (and manner of death) in Room 10. Of the above children, Lewis' ballistics exhibit is missing from the inventory; he is also the ONLY victim, besides the shooter, to have "GSW to the head" as cause of death. Wyatt's ballistics exhibit is also missing. Of the above children, Richman is the only victim whose Anatomic Diagnosis/Findings (related to cause of death, but more detailed) is missing from the record. Dylan Hockley, in fact, is the only child victim of Room 10 who has a complete, unremarkable record in the final report (nothing missing; cause of death not an outlier). We must also keep in mind that not only Room 10 had a victim problem, but Room 8 as well--although the confusing numbers given by the officers in Room 8 could have reflected an attempt to hide the missing Room 10 children. (Hide the fact that they were transported) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74631334 United States 04/07/2017 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Marquez-Green Mattioli Bacon Note that Wheeler, Lewis, and Mattioli were the first boys listed in various sources as having been transported to the hospital; Márquez-Greene was the first girl. Bacon is listed because her parents established an estate in her name the very day of the shootings, and are likely the parents grilling police 8 months later as to how their child was transported ( Thread: 8-16-2013: Sandy Hook family still uncertain whether child was transported by ambulance It was said that some Room 8 children "still had their backpacks on." Horvath's before-school class (see Thread: Witness: "60 yr old man with flat expression" entered Sandy Hook School minutes before shooting would be an explanation as to why some of these children had their packs still on - they were transitioning from some kind of before-school program to their regular classroom. One of the boy's backpacks can be seen in the north hall photos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48314699 United States 04/08/2017 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "As I entered the lobby, I observed Sgt. Cario pushing an office chair with an adult female out of the school. I observed Officer Chapman holding a child in his arm, but I was unsure if the child was male or female. I also observed TFC Dragon holding a child in his. arms. I was unsure if the child was a male or female. I held the doors open so that they could exit the school. TFC Kick moved his vehicle to the front door to transport the injured female." (McGeever, 00017426) That's the following individuals carrying children, so far: Chapman Vanghele Cario Dragon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48314699 United States 04/08/2017 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per Dragon, Cario placed one victim in the back seat of the SUV; Dragon specifically instructed Cario to place a blanket down before laying the child on it. Cario himself also climbed, with a child, into the cargo area, having already "checked the passenger compartment to make arrangements" but then deciding not to use it. The, this: "While I have no specific recollection of Newtown Officer Chapman carrying out a young female victim, I remember knowing that we had three victims in serious or critical condition and only two ambulances." (Cario, 73537) Pure, now-familiar Cario code: "I personally knew we had three serious/critical victims, not including Chapman's." This all just gets clearer and clearer with time, like puzzle pieces falling finally into place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73110794 United States 04/25/2017 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "As LANZA exited classroom 10 he encountered two responding Newtown Police Officers. Upon seeing the officers, he retreated into classroom 10...It should be noted that when first responders pulled the victims from the bathroom in room 8, they found two children still breathing. The children later succumbed to their wounds at the hospital." (00151276) That's two children transported to the hospital from Room 8. AMG's grandfather said she died in the hospital. Two of the following children were taken out of Room 10 by police; police then lied about having taken them out. Wyatt Richman Lewis Hockley From Room 8, we have: Wheeler (acknowledged) Greene (not acknowledged). We also have the Bacons filing preparations for a lawsuit the day of; in addition, the Bacons may be a match for the family grilling the state police as to how/whether their daughter was transported. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54499838 United States 04/27/2017 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From an old thread: Funny how well NH can use either hand afterwards with no visible scarring or difficulties. Good thread. Danbury must be one of those super hospitals except for the other 3 they couldn't save. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill You're in good company; the Danbury Hospital security director, too, counted four patients in his ER by 10:25 a.m. (StartTime 2012-12-14 15-25-12 Logger 45170321 Channel 1 Radi) Sandy Hook EMT and volunteer firefighter Kelly Burton was dispatched to the scene at 10:04 a.m., stating that within 20 minutes of their arrival four patients had been transported. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74782604 United States 04/28/2017 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this is the latest of the shill posts, which appear periodically and try to discuss details of Sandy Hook as if they are real?? Quoting: barnacle boy Interesting. Sandy Hook is a large liability case. There are enough major entities at risk of liability to explain the shilling. State of Connecticut--self-explanatory (ck out the state's recent history going overboard in skating out of liability suits). Newtown: School district, town itself, police department Individual officers: already named enough times that I don't need to name them again. Btw, those same officers (the one) is already named a bunch of times--in the CSP report. His colleagues in CSP don't want to be guilty of accusing him directly, but have made a damn good effort to do so indirectly. My guess: Feds said "We'll clean up your mess as long as we can say a lone shooter with an 'assault rifle' slaughtered 26 people in 5 minutes, instead of the real story--local teen shoots people in the arms and legs; victims bleed out when local cops bungle the response." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75901377 United States 11/25/2017 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next very important question: WHEN did NPD first enter Room 10 and 8 and possibly 12? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49821396 William Cario said NPD were in Room 10 before 9:50 a.m. So why'd it take them until 9:51:31 to announce shooter down? What did they do in that room with the shooter for over a minute and a half? Whatever it was, Benecchi saw it happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75596182 United Kingdom 11/25/2017 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of them? None of them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71040357 The answer is whatever you want it to be. Because sandy vagina hoax never happened. You are a fucking idiot. No, he's right. There were supposedly hundreds of children in that school that day. IIRC, about 600. Show me some videos of 600 or even several hundred, kids evacuating that school that day. Go ahead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75596182 United Kingdom 11/25/2017 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, Sandy Hoax researcher Wolfgang Halbig just won his case against Lenny Pozner. Pozner brought a court case in 2015 and it was just dismissed, I believe on 11/15. I had read that Pozner and company did not even show up in court. Halbig had a series of questions for him, including "what is your REAL name" as apparently there's more than one he's used, and I assume Pozner didn't want to answer these in open court under oath. Now WHY would they simply drop this case, which is my understanding, after 2 years of trying to intimidate and bankrupt Halbig? Halbig will be bringing charges of his own. It may take time but Sandy Hoax will be publicly revealed to be an event of unbelievable corruption and deceit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75114978 United States 11/25/2017 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only victim was the public No children died They graduated Class of 2017 These kids Kindergarten pics used as supposed "victims" How many gray haired middle aged parents are in your local a kindergarten class? ALL the "parents" we're too OLD to have 5 year olds Our kindergarten parents are age 21-35 NOT 50!!! They were given FREE HOUSES - paid off their mortgages Dec 25, 2009 and told they would lose it if they did not go along - 25 Houses! Do at least a tiny bit of research on the BIG PICTURE will Ya ?!?!?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74630877 United States 11/26/2017 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next very important question: WHEN did NPD first enter Room 10 and 8 and possibly 12? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49821396 William Cario said NPD were in Room 10 before 9:50 a.m. So why'd it take them until 9:51:31 to announce shooter down? What did they do in that room with the shooter for over a minute and a half? Whatever it was, Benecchi saw it happen. Don't you get it?! your fairy tales don't cut it!! wake the fuck up! |
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