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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
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Where in the Bible does it say Mary even knew Jesus?

Does your mother know you? Of course she doesnt! When in the history of the world, could a mother identify her only child? When?

We Protestants know Jesus better than even His own mother! Just ask Billy Graham!
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866



Psalm 12:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


Proverbs 30:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


Mark 13:31

King James Version (KJV)

31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866



Psalm 12:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


Proverbs 30:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


Mark 13:31

King James Version (KJV)

31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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None of those say the Bible is the only word of God.
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None of those say the Bible is the only word of God.
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Catholics just have a different understanding of how the living body of Christ on Earth can interact with the living body of Christ in Heaven. Since those in Heaven are now in sinless perfection in the presence of God, they can intercede on our behalf through prayer. I think they would want to cheer for the faithful who are still fighting the spiritual battle that they already won. We (I'm Catholic) don't worship or deify them, but pray to be more like them and request their intercession to God on our behalf through prayer. Hint: their prayers are powerful.
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

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5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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HERE HERE!
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866


Not to mention the Cathic Church chose the books of the Bible in the 4th century. If you acknowledge the authority of the Bible you acknowledge the authority of the Church, the bride of Christ, the Church that Jesus established when he gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter.
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866


Not to mention the Cathic Church chose the books of the Bible in the 4th century. If you acknowledge the authority of the Bible you acknowledge the authority of the Church, the bride of Christ, the Church that Jesus established when he gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter.
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*Catholic Church
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biblical examples

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The Rosary and Sacred Scripture

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.

Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you."

The Greek kecharitomene means favored by grace, graced. Its tense suggests a permanent state of being "highly favored," thus full of grace. Charity, the divine love within us, comes from the same root. God is infinite Goodness, infinite Love. Mary is perfect created goodness, filled to the limit of her finite being with grace or charity.

Blessed art thou among women

Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women..."

Luke 1:48 "For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."

Among all women is a way to say the highest/greatest etc. of a group in Semitic languages (these words would likely have been spoken in Aramaic). Mary is being called the greatest of all women, greater than Ruth, greater than Sarah, greater than EVE! Since Eve was created immaculate (without original sin), Mary must have been conceived immaculate. And, although Eve fell into sin by her own free will, Mary must have corresponded to God's grace and remained sinless. She could not otherwise be greater than Eve. Thus, as the Fathers of the Church unanimously assert, Mary is the New Eve who restores womanhood to God's original intention and cooperates with the New Adam, her Son, for the Redemption of the world.

Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus

Luke 1:42b "and blessed is the fruit of your womb."

Jesus is Mary's fruit. Good fruit does not come from anything but a good tree (Mt. 7:17-18)! The all-holy Son of God could not be the fruit of any other tree than the Immaculate Virgin.

Holy Mary, Mother of God

Luke 1:43 "And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Kyrios is the Greek word used by the Jews in the Septuagint Bible (Greek translation) for Yhwh, the Divine Name of God. In her greeting of Mary, Elizabeth is saying: "How is it that the mother of my God should come to me." Against the heresies of the 4th and 5th centuries which tried to split the Person of Jesus into two, divine and human, denying one or the other, the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD proclaimed Mary Theotokos (God-bearer, i.e. mother of God). Jesus is a single Person, a Divine Person, the 2nd Person of the Most Holy Trinity. To be mother of the Person Jesus is to be mother of a Person who is God. Mary's title protects this truth against errors which emphasize or deny, either the divinity or humanity of the Lord.

Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Luke 2:35 "...and you yourself a sword will pierce so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."
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"Jesus prefers that you address yourselves directly to Him rather than through an intermediary. In the meantime, if you wish to give yourselves completely to God and if you wish that I be your protector, then confide to me all your intentions, your fasts, and your sacrifices so that I can dispose of them according to the will of God.
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Most outsiders misunderstand the whole Mary thing with Catholics. It's not like Jesus just materialized on Earth. Mary is not worshiped as a god. She seems to be especially popular with the Mexican Catholics.

Catholics also pray to various saints on occasion as well. Catholics just have the availability of prayer to pray a whole lot. Just check out the Liturgy of the Hours.
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Catholics revere Mary as the Mother of God. The saints are honoured as leading exemplary lives when on earth and who are now in heaven. No one worships either Mary the mother of Jesus or any of the saints. People do ask Mary and the saints to inteced with God on their behalf, in times of trouble (eg) kind of like having someone on your side in times of adversity like having a defence lawyer so to speak. But definitely NO worship of Mary or the saints, worship is reserved for God alone.
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This.

It's the same as asking another to pray for you.

And you don't get to tell others what they believe.


That's creating a false straw,an to vilify those who do not believe according to what you approve.

Several Catholics have stated there is no worship of Mary as a God and yet you just ignore that and go right along with your hate and lying agenda.

Waste of time to even try to explain to those who do not have ears to hear.


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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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The story also tells about how the Marian required that a temple be built for her. So satanic is this Marian worship.
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What you're doing Op ....is like watching people in a restaurant say grace before eating and then you run out and tell everyone you watched people food worshiping at Denny's.
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866



Psalm 12:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


Proverbs 30:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


Mark 13:31

King James Version (KJV)

31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


None of those say the Bible is the only word of God.
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Can't fix stupid.
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Catholics just have a different understanding of how the living body of Christ on Earth can interact with the living body of Christ in Heaven. Since those in Heaven are now in sinless perfection in the presence of God, they can intercede on our behalf through prayer. I think they would want to cheer for the faithful who are still fighting the spiritual battle that they already won. We (I'm Catholic) don't worship or deify them, but pray to be more like them and request their intercession to God on our behalf through prayer. Hint: their prayers are powerful.
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There is only one mediator between man and God and that is Christ Jesus.
But a catholic will swear up and down that is not true,
A catholic will craft a statue, bow before, pray to it, kiss it, touch it, light a candle to it, drape it in gold and jewels........and will still maintain to his last breath that he does not worship it.
That is because you are those who justify yourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71553629

You are correct in stating that Christ is the only mediator between The Father and us. But Jesus' Mother is the greatest mediator between Him and Us; as such, She is to be loved and honored as He loved and honors her. He refuses Her nothing, and that is why we pray for her intercession with Her Son...the Adversary would not like people to know of Her God-given power over him.
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:mgs:
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wrong

Mary in Guadalupe was Christs mother
as per revelation 12

the rest of those statues i am not sure who or what they are
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You Catholics are as bad as the Jewish people and their Talmud. You need to focus on The Word of God not the words of men.


1 Timothy 2:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ONLY word of God?

By advocating "the Bible is the only word of God" position, you are focusing on the words of men, not of God, correct? After all, what you are believing is NOT in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626866



Psalm 12:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


Proverbs 30:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


Mark 13:31

King James Version (KJV)

31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46698241


Yeah nowhere does it say that all truth on Christian faith and morals is explicitly stated in the Bible, just that we shouldn't edit sacred scripture. In the Bible Jesus does give the authority to bind and loose to the Church, or know what is true/not true, good/evil, right/wrong when he gave Peter the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and said "whatever you bind on Earth is bound in Heaven and whatever you loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven." The Catholic Church chose the books of the Bible. If you recognise the authority of the Bible you recognise the authority of the Catholic Church
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If you don't like the pope then why do you believe in trinity and that Jesus is God?

You love the pope, you just don't know it.





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