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Hi all! My name is Lucian Ilea alias Caligulas alias Kaital.
Following a very interesting discussion on the NWO at :
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I feel it's my duty to start a real,serious discussion here .

Because most people are too lazy to follow-up links and search for info,I'll paste for your convenience the relevant posts there:


I should have been more discrete,I'm a big mouth,you know.

Ok,my good habit of making tests on people and letting them have the bad impression about me is suspended.

So ,here we are:
1.People are killed for voicing their opposition to NWO.this guy was not the first and will not be the last.This shows us that :
a)the NWO plans are not going right and they are mad
b)they are applying the teachings in the "protocols of the wise men of sion" which means we are very near to the installment of the NWO 's World Gov,on their timeline

2.There is no coincidence between the fact that new ,free energy solutions are proposed ,like the gravitational power plant and the next day,7 major powers:
EU,USA,Russia,China,India,Japan,South Korea decide to fund TOGETHER a fusion power plant
This shows us that the NWO guys have something heavy in their pants right now about free energy solutions and it means that all these countries,listed above,are controlled by NWO(very sadly)
This requires a new strategy from the forces of Light



"I would predict that free energy devices are soon available, with or without NWO."

That's about control,not free energy.
Free energy means free people.
Big fusion reactors means big people are in charge of the light switch.
Ordinary water engines,Tesla coils,gravitational power plants means DEMOCRACY.
Oil,gas,coal are all controlled by NWO.That's why free energy is necessary.That's why wars for oil are necessary for NWO.
The war is not the end,it's just the means to keep people poor and ignorant.

What was 535 talking all along?Saving humanity?Resource allocation?
No,CONTROL.
He was obsessed with control of the masses.

So,once again:
THE WHOLE ..... WORLD IS CONTROLLED BY NWO!ALL MAJOR POWERS! WE HAVE TO ACT SMART ,INFLUENCE THOSE IN GOVS ,SELL THEM SOMETHING AND MAKE THEM SWITCH SIDES,OR IN A VERY SHORT TIME THERE WILL BE A NUCLEAR WAR INVOLVING NK AND IRAN AND ALL WILL BE LOST FOR ANOTHER 5-6000 YEARS!



"If Russia and the US are both part of the NWO, then why is Russia siding with Iran against US interests in the Middle East?

And if Russia and EU/NATO are both part of NWO, then why is Russia so confrontational of late with the EU and NATO over expansionism into their territory and "near abroad?""


"you are still speaking in terms of 'nations'... that idea is obsolete.

what exists today is compartmentalisation of world regions with root handlers for each sector.

nationalities and long-expired loyalties no longer play a part in the near future developments."


Divide et impera!
that's the NWO motto

Since the re-creation of the Free-Masonry in France and then, in Bavaria,they always were discreet and bought both sides in order to provoke a war:
-French revolution was the first drama set by NWO.Members of the french nobility were free-masons,but the organization infiltrated also the opposition and german states in order to fuel the revolt.The royal house,long members of the NWO,was sacrificied in a barbaric ritual(they like to behead some elder members from time to time in ceremonies,others are burned alive)
-Napolonian wars:Napoleon was heavily supported by the masons ,who performed attempts to his life in order to make him Emperor.In Russia,masons organized the killing of the old tzar and supported the new one,a young man. In addition,masons infiltrated the Persian empire and UK and organized a 2-front war against Russia,in order enrage them against France.In France,Bonaparte was driven to war against Russia....

They always play both sides

Now they can only play one side,because all in the leadership of Romania and other countries are dedicated members of the Brotherhood for Human Life

World war 1 was a masterpiece of the elite:

In 1879,they splitted the dying Ottoman Empire and created many small nations in Europe(Serbia,Albania,Bulgaria,Romania,Croatia,Greece ,Turkey,Azerbaidjan,Armenia) ;that war begun with the masonic -instigation of Tzar Alexsandr (if I remember correctly his name) to attack Crimeea.The war of Crimeea was the first war in Europe in over a century(yeap,peace and quiet provided by the 7 powers:UK,France,Prusia,Habsburgic Empire,Russian empire,Ottoman empire,Sardinia)
Then ,the second part of the masterpiece was to instigate Germany ,now united under Prusian leadership ,to develop a great fleet to rival England's navy.
That put an end to a 2-century friendship and alliance between Germany and United Kingdom.German enterprises were banned from all english colonies(their empire was streched over 1/3rd of the globe) and forced Germany to make small wars in Africa in order to get some colonies.
The German war machine was fueled by the free-masons ,while France was kept in a position of weakness.UK was lead to believe that they are protected by the seas and their powerfull navy("the oceans no longer protect us"-GWB after 9/11-see the connection?)
The masons invented communism in England and Germany (Marx and Engels)which was exported in Russia.The revolution there was fueled by Lenin ,a jew and a German agent and the tzar Alexandr was executed with all his family.
Russia was forced to make peace with Germany ,Italy and Austro-Hungary.(the attempt on the Austrian prince was also orchestrated by free-masonry in Serbia).Soon after,masons fueled revolts in the Austrian empire and used their money for a last ditch effort against Germany on the Maginot line(France was already beaten)
The results:Russian,German and Austrian empires dissapear.
A lot of fre provinces and new nations appear:Transilvania,Poland,Czech,Slovakia,Hungary,etc whom are better controlled by NWO than large empires.Poverty is used to control the newcomers
After the peace ws signed in Paris,one free-mason delegate said:
"We have a new world war guarantee by this treaty in about 20 years"
The peace treaty was so harsh and humiliating with Germany that it helped the elite develop Nazi ideology and put another half-jew ,Hitler (a callsign,not his real name),born in Austria ,in charge of WW2

The goals of WW2 were :
-destruction of all major powers in Europe
-division of Europe between Russia and America
-empowering and enpoverishing Russia for future goals in WW3

World War 3 will be a confrontation between Jews in Israel and Arabs who must destroy each other.Isreal and Iran will be completely wiped out
Other troubling countries will be destroyed.
The New World Order will be asked by the terrified people of the world.
The new capital will be the New Jerusalem,built near the destructed old one.
The king of NWO will be a Merovingian,coming from the blood line of Jesus Christ in France.




"Mid-Easy unsettled mayhem is a goal."



Now,feel free to voice your opinions about the best strategy for the forces of the Light

The emmergence of a Planetary Consciousness began with the creation of WWW in 1992,but this process is not yet done,otherwise why the NWO is still here and we are still as we are?
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
Caligulas  (OP)

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For some odd reason,related to my net connection,all the "" and "" dissapeared ,so now:

-2 CR(line space) means the end of a quote and the beginning of another
-" and" means the original question/comments followed by my reply.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
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11/25/2006 10:10 AM
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I applauded your enthusiasm!

The only change you can effectively affect is with yourself. And, since we are all one... when you create a better you, I and all my brothers and sisters benefit.
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11/25/2006 10:11 AM
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good post, rambling, but useage of creative thought, well done.
You can destroy our planet, but the souls are going to keep on going, they'll keep on getting new bodies and going on to other planets. So in the end, it doesn't really matter
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11/25/2006 10:15 AM
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Let's start discussions and send e-mails in order to defeat NWO once for all! :-)
Caligulas  (OP)

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I was saying,in the first reply here,that for some odd reasons,all my "quote" and "/quote" dissapeared from the thread,damn code!you cannot quote nicely from another thread.

Hindu teachings have been at the core of my formation as an individual,but right now(since 2001 actually) we should move out of the woods and take action colectively,because a collective planetary consciousness is forming.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
Caligulas  (OP)

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11/25/2006 10:28 AM
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Let's share email addresses!
This might be a little bit risky,but my main email address is
[email protected]
All nonsense and swears will be banned forever.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
Gawain

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11/25/2006 10:36 AM
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IMHO what you resist persists!

The war on drugs creates more drug use.
The war on poverty creates more poverty!

It's the Universal Law.

What is like unto itself is attached.
What you focus on is strengthened.

Although, I would not have you stop. Part of what you are creating is awareness. That is a very good thing.
Caligulas  (OP)

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You're right ,Gawain.
This thread should have been called:
the fight for global consciousness

But you know very well that people are like kids
What they don't understand they ignore.
Peace movements have few active members,while anti-war movements have a lot.

Let's define our goal in positive terms,but which are easily understanded by people.

Everything is not absolute.If I'm thinking today:I'm unemployed,tommorow I shall strive to find a job;I'll fail then I'll think:let's find a job.
Evolution is a painfull process.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
Caligulas  (OP)

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I have a little dirty secret ,Gawain:
I created the NWO! I created the Free-Masonry,a long time ago.
God created sufference and death before he created the Universe,because God knew that man needs to be reminded about his fragility in order to desire to reach Godness.
Sufference is needed in order for man to become good.
Yes!my actions create NWO and my actions creates opposition to NWO,as well
But I cannot create desire to reach God.
This can only be created by Man.
If I will stop from my work,the whole world will collapse into misery and ignorance for thousands of years.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
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Sending angry e-mails IS the best way to effectively annihilate NWO! :-)
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oh, i was hoping this was a thread about how to invoke the messiah to coming back sooner, cause that's how the nwo get's defeated.

i was looking to flame... /shrug

worry about your own ass, and networking with the resistance... there's no stopping what's coming now, only how well you are able to endure, and survive.
You really shouldn't flame me, because some people here know, I can do this.
[link to www.youtube.com]
And flaming that, just makes you look dumb.
If you don't like how I am. Know this about me.
[link to www.kingwatch.co.nz]
And who I really am? My uber five stars poetry thread. I don't op the individual poems, just this thread. It's open forum to anything you'd like to chat about.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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The messiah did not come in 0 for the jews and he will not come now for the western world.
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mhmm, shouldn't look at the world as westerin or eastern, as much as individual people going with or against the natural order of things...


remember the nazi emblem...?

either your with or against the natural order of things...


start there...


those that are for the original order of the universe... well, they fight for truth...

those who are against it... search for better truths... or half lies.
You really shouldn't flame me, because some people here know, I can do this.
[link to www.youtube.com]
And flaming that, just makes you look dumb.
If you don't like how I am. Know this about me.
[link to www.kingwatch.co.nz]
And who I really am? My uber five stars poetry thread. I don't op the individual poems, just this thread. It's open forum to anything you'd like to chat about.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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since the nwo is a mirage of lunacy
don't join it
and don't give it power
Apothica

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don't give the NWO power?


guess you haven't noticed they take it for themselves just fine...


your talking like you can disbelive the sun away...


man the absurdity of it all.
You really shouldn't flame me, because some people here know, I can do this.
[link to www.youtube.com]
And flaming that, just makes you look dumb.
If you don't like how I am. Know this about me.
[link to www.kingwatch.co.nz]
And who I really am? My uber five stars poetry thread. I don't op the individual poems, just this thread. It's open forum to anything you'd like to chat about.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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You said a mouthful, but your cup overflows.....sounds like you need to rethink your thoughts and question common sense yet false ideas about the so called NWO. Tighten us your act...... There is a world order that exists and functons right this moment. There has always been a world order so exactly what is the so called NWO? Is it a myth like the tooth fairy?
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look......its coming whether we like it or not.... from some of it good will come and some bad.....we can't do a fuckin thing about it's arrival. it's like a monster wave, a tsunami that can't be stopped. when it gets too bad for the people to deal with some will break away and those will meet with others for the fight and they will die fighting. that's pretty much it.
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The N.W.O stuffed up greatly when they allowed the creation of Israel. Now that Israel exists, it will act as a landing pad for the return of the KING of Kings.
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See my signature
To shape the world is to become immortal
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I'm still tussling with the Old World Order
Kings
Priests
Prime Ministers
Presidents
Straw Bosses
Bankers
Judges
Lodges
The Brass
Sheriff Bob
Pruny teachers and librarians
Daddy Warbucks
Wardens
Hall Monitors
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The basic problem created by the NWO`S proxies is the mental straightjecketthey imposed on the micro level, i.e. indivduals, whereby through brainwashing through TV, massdmedia etc they installed a fear of punishment by an authority and whereby every individual has got a police mounted in the head plus a tax controller plus other, this type of control and conditioning must be broken by the indivdual, otherwise mass movement is not possible.

Unless there enough free thinking indivduals who do not accept the intimidation by fear (which is imaginery, because they do not have a policeman or a tax contoller for every individual), the individual should reject to abide by and allow the idea or concept of control to change her/his attitudes until the moment comes that they are physically there to control. This Civil Resistance ut requires the courage to think and act freely.

The other part is the engagement of the individual in the everyday life to earn enough resources to eat and live. Economic neoslavery.

The individual becomes conditioned not to shake the balance achieved in the daily life and routines. Complaceny out of need to work transformes most of the indivduals into screws and bolts in the system( ie bevcoming one with with the system of economic slavery).

I will continue later, I have to go, but these are the first obstacles that require change, immediate change. Builtin attitudes are not easy to change.
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IMHO

The only way to effectively destroy the NWO is to simply ignore them. Don't pay attention at all to them or their agenda.

And for gosh sakes, stop paying income taxes! This just fills their bank accounts and makes them more powerful.

Don't cause a fuss by asking them for the truth...they won't give it to you anyway.

On a more personal level, you have to make the decision to fight or die. Nothing else can be done because in their world, you earn respect by fighting.

Play to their fears...they really fear us and if you let on to the fact that you are willing to fight and die for your cause this makes them notice.

Of course, you have to arm your self and learn how to fight because resistence is a serious matter. If they sense you don't mean what you say, forgetaboutit.
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IMHO

The only way to effectively destroy the NWO is to simply ignore them. Don't pay attention at all to them or their agenda.

And for gosh sakes, stop paying income taxes! This just fills their bank accounts and makes them more powerful.

Don't cause a fuss by asking them for the truth...they won't give it to you anyway.

On a more personal level, you have to make the decision to fight or die. Nothing else can be done because in their world, you earn respect by fighting.

Play to their fears...they really fear us and if you let on to the fact that you are willing to fight and die for your cause this makes them notice.

Of course, you have to arm your self and learn how to fight because resistence is a serious matter. If they sense you don't mean what you say, forgetaboutit.
 Quoting: REAR VIEW (NLI) 150179

Ignoring is the worst part.
If a flood is coming ,it's better to ignore it?
They told the truth ,see 535 posts

What WW Raupp is saying: "to shape the world is to become immortal":that is what they believe in.Can you ignore that?
You can't stop paying taxes,because taxes are part of the old world order,which is based on money and hierachy.

I agree that you have to fight,literally and to inspire others.No,they don't fear us,read the little history of NWO again in the main post.
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
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I think you're a bit behind the times.

New World Disorder (NWD) is here.

If you haven't noticed, you will.
to herd or not to herd
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don't give the NWO power?


guess you haven't noticed they take it for themselves just fine...


your talking like you can disbelive the sun away...


man the absurdity of it all.
 Quoting: Apothica

they only take it if people cooperate
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You said a mouthful, but your cup overflows.....sounds like you need to rethink your thoughts and question common sense yet false ideas about the so called NWO. Tighten us your act...... There is a world order that exists and functons right this moment. There has always been a world order so exactly what is the so called NWO? Is it a myth like the tooth fairy?
 Quoting: property is theft 162465

it's called Globalism
and it's a global socialist humanist utopia

in order to achieve their "bliss", they kill off anyone and anything which is not up to their standard of perfection
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The N.W.O stuffed up greatly when they allowed the creation of Israel. Now that Israel exists, it will act as a landing pad for the return of the KING of Kings.
 Quoting: Matrix 158939

yes, they needed that stage to portray their antimessiah, but, the whole thing is going to backfire on them
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IMHO

The only way to effectively destroy the NWO is to simply ignore them. Don't pay attention at all to them or their agenda.

And for gosh sakes, stop paying income taxes! This just fills their bank accounts and makes them more powerful.

Don't cause a fuss by asking them for the truth...they won't give it to you anyway.

On a more personal level, you have to make the decision to fight or die. Nothing else can be done because in their world, you earn respect by fighting.

Play to their fears...they really fear us and if you let on to the fact that you are willing to fight and die for your cause this makes them notice.

Of course, you have to arm your self and learn how to fight because resistence is a serious matter. If they sense you don't mean what you say, forgetaboutit.

Ignoring is the worst part.
If a flood is coming ,it's better to ignore it?
They told the truth ,see 535 posts

What WW Raupp is saying: "to shape the world is to become immortal":that is what they believe in.Can you ignore that?
You can't stop paying taxes,because taxes are part of the old world order,which is based on money and hierachy.

I agree that you have to fight,literally and to inspire others.No,they don't fear us,read the little history of NWO again in the main post.
 Quoting: Caligulas

no, they want a war
they want fighting
they want death
they only kill by proxy
so, they can't lose
Caligulas  (OP)

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You're right about this.
But how can you stop a war?
Leaders make wars and leaders are controlled by NWO.
peace movements?innefective
Fire against Fire
I will go to the end,wherever and whatever that end might be
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don't participate in wars, for one thing

and do what is peaceful





GLP