GODLESS NATION

Good then we are in agreement. :) Even a human book cannot explain the complexities of a god. I hope you didn't think I was disagreeing, just letting you know what I think. And to the poster that says this: I do not beleive all Christians are bad people, just misguided souls, as with most religions here on this earth. Thank you.

Right on - EVERYBODY is judgmental. We all judge everybody - based on their actions, their job, their looks, everything.

This "Christians are judgmental" talking point has been used and abused until it is meaningless. So what? Everybody is.

To assert that you are not judgmental makes you guilty of the VERY SAME characteristic you are accusing Christians of possessing. Hypocrisy.

Wait a minute. I didn't say that. Why does there have to be a heaven and hell? For all we know there could be one place that is nothing but fog for all souls, right? That doesn't mean I do not believe in an afterlife, but it sure is hard for me to determine if there is one. That obviously is not for us to know, only to have "faith" in, right?

Correct. But I also did not judge anybody here, what I did was relate my observations. When I use the judegment card, it works very effectively to show Christians what they do that their books says they shouldn't. And any judement upon another souls is a judgement toward oneself. Keep those judgements close and see why we judge ourselves. It is a tool to help us understand why we can't say something is wrong, if we don't know the real truth of what "god" says. Can you explain why god is silent today, when in the past he was such a social vreature to his creations? No, and neither can I, God does not say anything to anyone here. But we know what/or how to live correctly without any god "saying" anything.

I base most of my logic on the fact that the holy book says that god created man in his image, and this includes any sins that people commit. God made sin just like god made you and me, and I beleive he loves all of it!

Right on - if our eyes are open we are judging.

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Personally, I try NOT to 'VEX.' Or to be 'VEXED' either.


~ Campbell Randt

That's rather vexing, isn't it?

I'll say, Ok I'll go with that. I sure as heck haven't been there yet. AND how can you truly believe someone that said they have? If it sounds like I'm back peddalling to anyone, I'm not. I still want people to acknowledge that there is a God. Or, at least there is someone out there who we call God.

I know the thought of a god makes you all warm and cozy but there is zero proof that such a being exists.

By the way, for students of signs (that is to say, the commercial kind), you might want to check out :


[link to www.ChurchSignGenerator.com]


They have a 'Make A Church Sign' section. Might be cool to 'MAKE' for one's self what an 'IDEAL' church sign should be and / or say.

~ Campbell Randt

Man kinds greatest adventures and experiences lay ahead, the end times is meaningless bullshit cooked up by the church to get your money. The more you give the more you're saved, give me a fucking break. It is a racket and should be tried under RICO statutes.

<God made sin just like god made you and me, and I beleive he loves all of it!>

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Phew, that's a tough one! Ouch. This is why I don't discuss religion face to face. That one would have left me tongue tied.

As it was I had to look up "tonque".

... ya mean there's some place God is not?.... how odd, how very odd indeed?

USA is a free country, not a Christian country. Do whatever you want. God gave you a free will, so should Americans.

Who gives a shit who goes to hell! God does, not me.

Ya - the proof - that is a tough nut for sure. I can't prove it TO you. Are you sure there is no God? I could relate to you what has happened to me, but you would see it as something else. Something like hallucinations or too much to eat before bedtime, etc. That is to be expected I suppose. BUT and that's a big but ( pardon the pun) are you truly sure there is no God? Even without PROOF?

You're such a kidder.

Well, allrighty then. Wow. Well, you DO believe in a God. That's a good start. I think ---hummm--.

By the way you're veway, verway scawary.

Say, didn't you use to live in the trailer park on Rt. 1 in Miami? North Miami to be exact.

Well it is thought provoking. The truth is we do not know what god likes or dislikes. But we know he must, because he made likes and dislikes, but we can't say what it is he likes by far. When I say I have a personal relationship with god, I mean what I say, and it really is nobody's business, but God's and mine, correct? My souls salvation is not the business of any christian, or muslum, or penticost, or chatholic, it's between me and god. Nobody else has a say so in this matter.

Some may want to puff up if they think "they have saved somebody," but that is like self pride and that is the driving force behind most religions. Leave me alone about it and god will take care of me by himself.

... thanks, I get it from me Dad.

I hate to leave right now but tomorrow is another day.

I have some other stuff to do tonight. So I will say, "Good night, Mr and Mrs America and all ships at sea."

God be with you.

And we start the day out with this silliness:

[link to www.comcast.net]

... what, lol, like you have something against all of them planes in the sky?

What a ridiculous premise. The entire "nation" can hardly answer for your views, OP. The nation is composed of individual people.

God is within us all, so none of us are godless.

Speak for yourself.

.... methinks/feels all too many a folk out there have a bit of a time with that one... and cuz, like you know, they don't like themselves, lol... and soooooo, they go about projecting themselves out there, and onto every-body/thing else, and then somehow call it some sorta truth. T'is downright amazing it is, lol.. but, and to be fair here, it's rather creative too, and in a manner of speaking that is.

Well, someone woke up grouchy today. I don't think you read the whole thread, now did you? You just took the title and chomped down on it. That's to narrow of a view. It's kind of like the headline,"Dewey Wins." You have to read further.

The point I make is that many have turned away from God and/or denied him. Your anger indicates that YOUR god within is struggling.

'Atta boy.

Diogenes

a real cynic doesn't care about God but only about the pure morality of actions in themselves...

Diogenes used to masturbate on the streets you know... you know why? to show them that such things don't matter... I don't recall him talking about Divinity at all... he lived like a dog because he needed almost nothing than himself and his own ratio for living 'a good life'... he certainly didn't need God...

And you are what? - A. Coward? Ho hum. Stay on topic please.

When some one said, "Most people laugh at you," his reply was, "And so very likely do the asses at them; but as they don't care for the asses, so neither do I care for them."
Diogenes