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Is the cross a phallic symbol?

 
pinkytoe
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Is the cross a phallic symbol?
Discuss amongst yourselves. bash chuckle
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crap is it phallic or phyalic? Where's spell check?
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It represents the unholy trinity of Nimrod, Queen Simiramis and their wicked son, Tammuz...so much for the Catholic Church, heh!
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Re: Is the cross a phallic symbol?
No.

But ICBM Nuclear Missiles are
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stir just doin my part.
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The swastika (a symbol of life) was replaced by the cross (a symbol of death)by the forces of Evil that rule the present dark age.
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Yep:

The words "cross" and "crucify" are mistranslations, a "later rendering," of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake. The shape of the two-beamed cross had its origin in ancient Chaldea and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz. In the third century A.D., pagans were received into the apostate ecclesiastical system and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols.

According to The Companion Bible, crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian Sun-god. The evidence is complete; the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, not on two pieces of timber placed at an angle.

According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, in the Egyptian churches the cross was a pagan symbol of life borrowed by the Christians and interpreted in the pagan manner.

According to Greek dictionaries and lexicons, the primary meaning of stauros is an upright pale, pole, or stake. The secondary meaning of "cross" is admitted to be a "later" rendering. In spite of the evidence, almost all common versions of the Scriptures persist with the Latin Vulgate's crux (meaning cross) as the rendering of the Greek stauros.

The most accepted reason for the "cross" being brought into Messianic worship is Constantine's famous vision of "the cross superimposed on the sun" in A.D. 312. What he saw is nowhere to be found in Scripture. Even after his so-called "conversion," his coins showed an even-armed cross as a symbol for the Sun-god. Many scholars have doubted the "conversion" of Constantine because of the wicked deeds that he did afterwards.

After Constantine had the "vision of the cross," he promoted another variety of the cross, the Chi-Rho or Labarum. This has been explained as representing the first letters of the name Christos (CH and R, or, in Greek, X and P). The identical symbols were found as inscriptions on rock, dating from ca. 2500 B.C., being interpreted as "a combination of the two Sun-symbols." Another proof of its pagan origin is that the identical symbol was found on a coin of Ptolemeus III from 247-222 B.C.

According to An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Traditional Symbols, the labarum was also an emblem of the Chaldean sky-god. Emperor Constantine adopted the labarum as the imperial ensign. According to Dictionary of Mythology Folklore and Symbols, the symbol was in use long before Christianity. Chi probably stood for Great Fire or Sun. Rho probably stood for Pater or Patah (Father). The word labarum yields "everlasting Father Sun."


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Heres some more:

"It is strange, yet unquestionably a fact, that in ages long before the birth of Christ, and since then in lands untouched by the teaching of the Church, the Cross has been used as a sacred symbol. . . . The Greek Bacchus, the Tyrian Tammuz, the Chaldean Bel, and the Norse Odin, were all symbolized to their votaries by a cruciform device."The Cross in Ritual, Architecture, and Art (London, 1900), G. S. Tyack, p. 1.

The people of the ancient lands used the cross in worship, some, like the Egyptians used it in Phallus worship, or, worship of the male sex organ. It was used as a symbol of fertility. "Various figures of crosses are found everywhere on Egyptian monuments and tombs, and are considered by many authorities as symbolical either of the phallus [a representation of the male sex organ] or of coition. . . . In Egyptian tombs the crux ansata [cross with a circle or handle on top] is found side by side with the phallus." A Short History of Sex-Worship (London, 1940), H. Cutner, pp. 16, 17; see also The Non-Christian Cross, p. 183.

W. E. Vine says on this subject: "STAUROS (staur¬V) denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake. On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pale, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two beamed cross." Greek scholar Vine then mentions the Chaldean origin of the two-piece cross and

how it was adopted from the pagans by Christendom in the third century C.E. as a symbol of Christ's impalement." Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, 1981, Vol. 1, p. 256.
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i believe constantine saw the SIGN of the cross on the sun. this has been misinterpretted as the cross. the SIGN of the cross that he saw was PISCES, the SIGN of the fish. during the age of PISCES, the SIGN of the fish was the SIGN of the cross "on the face of the sun". the SIGN of the fish is the SIGN that was the SIGN of the cross when the sun, of God, was "crucified" on the solar cross on the vernal equinox.

sol invictus
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is the cross a phallic symbol?

haven't you ever seen the EXORCIST?

woohoo
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is the cross a phallic symbol?

haven't you ever seen the EXORCIST?

woohoo
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damned 1rof1
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eeeeohhhh lawdy...Everything is phallic to all yoo pinko's.

:love:
just sayin.
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Discuss amongst yourselves. bash chuckle
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I don't know; . . . but the kid in the old EXORCIST movie seems to have started a TREND, . . . which others (within or without porno) have sometimes followed.

Reminds me a bit of masturbation jokes from university. lol


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A Roman Symbol
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Hethites
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represents the sun hence life
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is the cross a phallic symbol?

haven't you ever seen the EXORCIST?

woohoo
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lmao lol
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I have never seen that part of the Exorcist. In my humble opinion there is nothing phallic, sexy, sacred or satantic about a cross. It is two sticks.
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Actually the cross represents The Great Bird of Freedom. You'll see. It represents freedom. Sort of a Phoenix rising from the ashes.

I can see how the great "bird" of freedom can be seen as a penis haaaaaaa : )

Penises love their freedom.
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Re: Is the cross a phallic symbol?
Nope.
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Not phallic no. The horrizontal line represents earth (the horizon) and the vertical line represents our connection with the spirit. Don't project your nasty thoughts onto the cross OP. Bad karma for you.
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Not as much as the Washington Monument, the Capital Dome, the WhiteHouse window toppers circumsize and uncircumized all phallus worship. Those that do worship the phallus, will worship Satanael's Baskanion in the end. end
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The cross idea came from nibiru , (planet of the crossing).
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Actually the cross is a symbol for the great bird of freedom. And no its not Freudian LOL It is a symbol of freedom. it is an ancient ..really old symbol. Trust me ..i know : )
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The swastika (a symbol of life) was replaced by the cross (a symbol of death)by the forces of Evil that rule the present dark age.
 Quoting: Kalki 163399

No, that's not true. Hitler used the ancient symbol that originated in Ireland, I believe, and reversed it.

I suppose the cross symbolizes death to some, but I see it as being symbolic of the equinox and also a crossroad in life.
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Discuss amongst yourselves. bash chuckle
 Quoting: pinkytoe

The cross is more about the mushroom, though the mushroom is often seen as a phalic symbol...
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The cross idea came from nibiru , (planet of the crossing).
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Yeah...Pretty much..The DARK SIDE of our sun in this FALLEN world/cosmos of our consciousness...

And CROSSING over to the DARK SIDE...
"CROSS ROADS"

The phallic thing has a lot to do with the DARK SIDE also...
"YOU'RE NOT HALF THE MAN YOU THINK YOU ARE"...

The DARK SIDE FEMALE/DARK SIDE OF MATTER...Wanting to be a
huMAN through the creation of CLONES/ROBOTS....
Instead of SPIRIT/LIGHT....That humanity is destined for...Only through the transformation of that matter on to LIGHT....
Which they try to hold back/stop...Cause that will be the end of them...

The transformation of DARK in to LIGHT in our FALLEN consciousness...To rectify the FALLEN creation..

Vampires trying to hold on....They HATE change...
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I still believe it originated in Ireland.

The swastika is an archetypal, universal human religious symbol. It appears on every continent and is as old as humankind. A marker of the sun's travels, it can be seen on Pictish rock carvings, adorning ancient Greek pottery, and on ancient Norse weapons and implements. It was scratched on cave walls in France seven thousand years ago. A swastika marks the beginning of many Buddhist scriptures, and is often inciused on the soles of the feet of the Buddha in statuary. In the Jain religion, it is a symbol of the seventh Jina (Saint), the Tirthankara Suparsva. To Native Americans, the swastika is a symbol of the sun, the four directions, and the four seasons.

The swastika is a type of solar cross, with arms bent at right angles, suggesting a whirling or turning motion. Long before the symbol was co-opted as an emblem of Hitler's Nazi party, it was a sacred symbol to Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist religions, as well as in Norse, Basque, Baltic, and Celtic Paganism.
The name Swastika is derived from the Sanskrit language, from "su," meaning "good," and "vasti"," meaning "being" (together; well being) In India, it is used as a fertility and good luck charm. The right turning Indian swastika symbolizes the sun and positive energy, and is most commonly associated with the deity Ganesh, a God of prosperity and wealth. Some Indians regard an anti-clockwise swastika as an opposing, dark force- a symbol of the godess Kali. Together, the two can be regarded as symbolically similar to the Yin Yang symbol of Taoism, or the two Pillars of Kabbalah.

The swastika is also known for its uses in heraldry as the tetraskelion, the fylfot cross (fylfot meaning 'four feet,' a term used in european heraldry), the cross gammadion (because it resembles four greek letter 'gammas.'), and the hakenkreutz (German, hooked cross).
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Also...At the end of a world creation cycle...Because of the current creation coming to it's end and CHANGING/The illusion lifting....

It is seen as a RED CROSS in the sky....

This is how many will notice it a first...

It also will appear seemingly out of nowhere in the sky ...
Though it will really be due to the LIGHT/SUN leaving the current world creation...
Things that have been there all along start to show through...

NO MORE HIDING BEHIND THE LIGHT...THAT TIME WILL COME...
SOONER THAN WE THINK...NOW..
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