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BRAVE MUSLIM MAN RISKS LIFE TO TEACH GIRLS IN AFGANISTAN

 
Anonymous Coward
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BRAVE MUSLIM MAN RISKS LIFE TO TEACH GIRLS IN AFGANISTAN
Disembowelled and murdered for teaching girls

Thursday November 30, 2006
By Kim Sengupta


GHAZNI - The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.

The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely.

But his life was over.

He was partly disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes. The remains were put on display as a warning to others against defying Taleban orders to stop educating girls.

Halim is one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taleban and United States and Afghan forces.

The day we arrived an Afghan policeman and eight insurgents died during an ambush in an outlying village. Rockets were found, primed to be fired into Ghazni city during a visit by the American ambassador a few days previously. But, as in the rest of Afghanistan, it is the civilians who are bearing the brunt of this murderous conflict.

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

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I would like to honour the memory of this brave Muslim progressive, by opening a thread that praises him for his sacrifice.

It seems to me that just like here, and everywhere else in the world, ordinary people are the victims of their leaders, and oppressive governments.

But some Muslims will risk their own lives to do the right thing, and buck the establishment.

Too bad most Westerners will focus on the animals that perpetrated this horrible crime and IGNORE the noble man who was killed.

Bravo to this man.
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11/30/2006 11:09 AM
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If some moderate Muslim would stand up then I couldn't call them evil.... Ohh.
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Too bad about the Radical Islamist establishment - who killed him for teaching girls..

Nice try OP - but the people who oppress Muslims ARE in fact Muslims. You can't sugar coat barbarity by pointing out the bravery of a man who stands up to the medieval cruelty and hateful elitism of Islam..
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Too bad about the Radical Islamist establishment - who killed him for teaching girls..

Nice try OP - but the people who oppress Muslims ARE in fact Muslims. You can't sugar coat barbarity by pointing out the bravery of a man who stands up to the medieval cruelty and hateful elitism of Islam..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


Nice try GOG.

But the man who got killed for his good deed was also Islamic, so why do you only focus on the Muslim who did the bad deed?

If you are going to condemn the religion for the actions of the bad ones, then it is only fair to point out the actions of the good ones too right?

So are you saying that it was not brave of this Muslim to risk his life to teach girls?

Are you saying that he doesn't deserve to be honoured?
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Too bad about the Radical Islamist establishment - who killed him for teaching girls..

Nice try OP - but the people who oppress Muslims ARE in fact Muslims. You can't sugar coat barbarity by pointing out the bravery of a man who stands up to the medieval cruelty and hateful elitism of Islam..


Nice try GOG.

But the man who got killed for his good deed was also Islamic, so why do you only focus on the Muslim who did the bad deed?

If you are going to condemn the religion for the actions of the bad ones, then it is only fair to point out the actions of the good ones too right?

So are you saying that it was not brave of this Muslim to risk his life to teach girls?

Are you saying that he doesn't deserve to be honoured?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163986

LISTEN TO YOURSELF! He deserves to be honoured, of course! If only it didn't require a fatal act of courage to teach girls in the islamic world..

Wake up!!!!!!!!!
:gong:
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11/30/2006 11:40 AM
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LISTEN TO YOURSELF! He deserves to be honoured, of course! If only it didn't require a fatal act of courage to teach girls in the islamic world..

Wake up!!!!!!!!!
:gong:
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


So you will admit that it is not the RELIGION that is the problem here, but the oppressive governments.

Right?

Glad to see that we agree.

There is nothing wrong with Islam, only those who interperate it in a way that allows them to oppress others.
AniMeyhem! nli
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11/30/2006 11:44 AM
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The unfortunate fact of the matter is this: if you oppress your own, you are the problem.

For every Islamofacist, there are tens of moderate Muslims; however, how often do we hear about them in the MSM? If the moderates took more of a stand against those who use their religion as an excuse to kill, torture and maim others, then perhaps Islam would not have such a bad rep...
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I would like to honour the memory of this brave Muslim progressive, by opening a thread that praises him for his sacrifice.

It seems to me that just like here, and everywhere else in the world, ordinary people are the victims of their leaders, and oppressive governments.

But some Muslims will risk their own lives to do the right thing, and buck the establishment.

Too bad most Westerners will focus on the animals that perpetrated this horrible crime and IGNORE the noble man who was killed.

Bravo to this man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163986


they are also victims of religion.
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The unfortunate fact of the matter is this: if you oppress your own, you are the problem.

For every Islamofacist, there are tens of moderate Muslims; however, how often do we hear about them in the MSM? If the moderates took more of a stand against those who use their religion as an excuse to kill, torture and maim others, then perhaps Islam would not have such a bad rep...
 Quoting: AniMeyhem! nli 148033



Ummm...

Maybe the problem is not with the Muslims but perhaps with your media?

Maybe they ARE standing up but you just can't here it because your media is nothing more than a propaganda tool.

Consider this:

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American visual media


Movies.


Columbia Pictures - Jack & Harry Cohn, co-founders

The Walt Disney Company - Michael Eisner, former head
20th Century Fox - William Fox, Joseph Schenk, co-founders

Universal Studios - Carl Laemmle, founder

MGM - Marcus Loew, Samuel Goldwyn, Louis B.
Mayer, co-founders - Harry Sloan, Chairman of MGM
Dreamworks - Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen, founders

Paramount Pictures - Adolph Zukor, founder - Sherry Lansing, former head

Miramax - Bob & Harvey Weinstein, founders
Warner Brothers - Harry, Albert, Sam & Jack Warner, founders

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Networks, and network news.

ABC - Leonard Goldenson, founder

CBS - William S. Paley founder of Sumner Redstone, head of Viacom

NBC - David Sarnoff founder – also RCA.

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See a common thread here?

American media is owned by Jews, well like 90 percent anyway.

So what makes you think that Jews are going to give moderate Muslims a fair shake?
Grizzled Old Goat

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LISTEN TO YOURSELF! He deserves to be honoured, of course! If only it didn't require a fatal act of courage to teach girls in the islamic world..

Wake up!!!!!!!!!
:gong:


So you will admit that it is not the RELIGION that is the problem here, but the oppressive governments.

Right?

Glad to see that we agree.

There is nothing wrong with Islam, only those who interperate it in a way that allows them to oppress others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163986

NO WE DO NOT AGREE! the taliban is NOT the government of Afghanistan. They had their chance, and turned into one of the most barbaric and backward national governments in modern world history. They would like power again, and will oppress and terrify the very same people they used to rule to get it. Sorry - it's the religion..
AniMeyhem! nli
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The unfortunate fact of the matter is this: if you oppress your own, you are the problem.

For every Islamofacist, there are tens of moderate Muslims; however, how often do we hear about them in the MSM? If the moderates took more of a stand against those who use their religion as an excuse to kill, torture and maim others, then perhaps Islam would not have such a bad rep...



Ummm...

Maybe the problem is not with the Muslims but perhaps with your media?

Maybe they ARE standing up but you just can't here it because your media is nothing more than a propaganda tool.

Consider this:

-----------------------------------------

American visual media


Movies.


Columbia Pictures - Jack & Harry Cohn, co-founders

The Walt Disney Company - Michael Eisner, former head
20th Century Fox - William Fox, Joseph Schenk, co-founders

Universal Studios - Carl Laemmle, founder

MGM - Marcus Loew, Samuel Goldwyn, Louis B.
Mayer, co-founders - Harry Sloan, Chairman of MGM
Dreamworks - Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen, founders

Paramount Pictures - Adolph Zukor, founder - Sherry Lansing, former head

Miramax - Bob & Harvey Weinstein, founders
Warner Brothers - Harry, Albert, Sam & Jack Warner, founders

-----------------------------------------

Networks, and network news.

ABC - Leonard Goldenson, founder

CBS - William S. Paley founder of Sumner Redstone, head of Viacom

NBC - David Sarnoff founder – also RCA.

------------------------------------------

See a common thread here?

American media is owned by Jews, well like 90 percent anyway.

So what makes you think that Jews are going to give moderate Muslims a fair shake?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163986


Trust me, if the moderates were to protest around the world and start handing in the fascists to the authorities and demanding justice, the MSM would be covering it. If for no other reason, they would do it because it IS news. Also, I do check the worldwide media in multiple countries in various languages, including those that are not mainstream, and I still haven't seen the moderates protesting en masse.

Get the picture? If you want us to believe that Islam is a religion of peace, start practicing what you preach!
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Numbers are bad, mmmkay...
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LISTEN TO YOURSELF! He deserves to be honoured, of course! If only it didn't require a fatal act of courage to teach girls in the islamic world..

Wake up!!!!!!!!!
:gong:


So you will admit that it is not the RELIGION that is the problem here, but the oppressive governments.

Right?

Glad to see that we agree.

There is nothing wrong with Islam, only those who interperate it in a way that allows them to oppress others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163986



ISLAM truly IS the problem.

It advocates violence against all non-muslims.

Face the facts !!!!!
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Get the picture? If you want us to believe that Islam is a religion of peace, start practicing what you preach!
 Quoting: AniMeyhem! nli 148033


lmao

Trust me.

I could care less what you think.

And I'm not preaching anything, so why would I have to "practice" it?

Notice that you make no mention of the fact that the media in a Christian country (75%)is 90 percent Jewish?

And Jewish people represent 2%?

I'm just trying to educate people.

You are fighting the wrong enemy.
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the taliban are no more representative of islam than the klu klux klan are of christianity
i know many british muslims and they are just ordinary people, they dont wear veils, some wear scarves, not all. Their main concerns are day to day living like everyone else, and yes the daughters are every bit as educated as the sons
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ISLAM truly IS the problem.

It advocates violence against all non-muslims.

Face the facts !!!!!
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What are you talking about?

I live like 10 minutes away from a mousque, and I see Muslims all of the time, and I have been here all of my life, and I have NEVER been harrassed.

So go peddle your bullshit somewhere else pal.

If they want violence against all non-Muslims why do they leave me alone and mind their own business?

They are people, just like you and me, who just want to raise their kids and be at peace.

What did Iraq ever do to us that they deserve to have hundreds of thousands of their people killed by our war machine?

What has Iran done to us that they should be threatened on a daily basis?

Where is the fucking threat?

More people were killed by lightening in America last year than by terrorism.

You people are being made into little Hitlers by this shit being pumped into your head, I swear...

Have you no compassion?

The U.S is slaughtering people in their home countries, mass murdering hundreds of thousands and you blame the Muslims?

That's some sick shit right there.

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