Obama Set To Put In New Law That Can Put Everyone In Jail

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satan and his minions are weak and pathetic so they need computers to keep up with everybody and their actions.

Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 03/23/2016 08:50 AM

I'm not saying I disagree or agree with anything, but I just want to ask an innocent question on this topic:

Are we arguing that we should protect crime and criminals?

Are we now saying that crime and criminals are "good" and law is "bad"?

I appreciate whomever can clear this up for me.

The question then becomes how does this information get used in court?

In other words, a defense attorney will ask how the prosecution got the evidence. Will they be able to drag a NSA technician to the stand to testify and be cross-examined?

I would highly doubt it.

Please take a moment to google and read "The Bill of Rights" as a preface and I would then be glad to answer your question in a civil manor.

I mean it. I will hang out on this thread and wait. Should only take you 15 minutes

Barry belongs in prison along with his sidekick hildabeast.

Just goes to show you how easily people can be scammed out of their rights.

Their tune will change instantly when this surveillance gores their own ox.

You post your social life online and then go commit a crime. The data is too irresistible.

Even in the event of an actual arrest, with evidence, the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty. We are saying the the government is busily collecting evidence on innocent people, accused of no crime, with no arrest planned, and thus presuming guilt.

The argument that some citizens might at some time be guilty of a crime does not supercede the violation of on the books laws concerning privacy, or the violation of our constitutional rights.

The argument about criminals is another proof of the old principle of "hard cases make bad laws"

This is no defense of criminals, but of innocent people, including you.

I see, thank you.

So the follow up would be this: collected data is nothing without eyes looking at it, right?

I can download the entire internet but I don't know what it says until I am specifically looking for something, right?

So, let's use me as an example, I haven't been accused of any crimes nor am I a suspect in any crimes, therefore nobody is looking at me or my collected data, yes?

But let's say I "go-a-rapin' and a'pillagin'" spree and suddenly my name comes up with the Police department...

Do you suppose it would be helpful to have co-operation between the various agencies...a free-flow of information and resources?

Let's say you're the Mother of one of my rape victims...will you be more or less comfortable knowing that when the County Sherriff calls up the FBI on the blower to see what they've got, the FBI is not going to say "Screw you, townie! This is OUR File, not yours...now fuck off and get a job!"

I mean, and I'm just talking here, having a conversation, trying to work through this on an intellectual level. I'm not committed one way or the other but someone, FFS, should at least play devil's advocate here, (right? or do we not appreciate that anymore?) I mean: The Bill of Rights and the Constitution are well-and-good, but in the age of Meth-addled baby rapists and Islamic fundamentalist goat-fucking Starbucks exploding teenage Terrorists...do those documents really serve?

We tend to evaluate this stuff based on a premise that has, so far, proved faulty: That the government has some vested interest in screwing with law-abiding taxpayers.

I have seen this go on for so long and so often over every piece of proposed legislation that I've had a chance to reflect on the source of these fears.

It's not paranoia. It's narcissism.

It's the unfettered belief that somehow, we, as little individuals in this giant collective, are super, super crazy important to them.

We're not.

We're just taxpayers, and that's it. We simply aren't that interesting, and we're going to be okay.

Unless we commit crimes and MAKE them aware of us.

Yes or no?

OBAMA CANNOT MAKE LAWS

ONLY CONGRESS CAN PASS LAWS

GET IT RIGHT

They have to blame Obama because if the blamed the republican Congress then they couldn't justify voting them in over and over again against their own interest.

I see, thank you.

So the follow up would be this: collected data is nothing without eyes looking at it, right?

I can download the entire internet but I don't know what it says until I am specifically looking for something, right?

So, let's use me as an example, I haven't been accused of any crimes nor am I a suspect in any crimes, therefore nobody is looking at me or my collected data, yes?

But let's say I "go-a-rapin' and a'pillagin'" spree and suddenly my name comes up with the Police department...

Do you suppose it would be helpful to have co-operation between the various agencies...a free-flow of information and resources?

Let's say you're the Mother of one of my rape victims...will you be more or less comfortable knowing that when the County Sherriff calls up the FBI on the blower to see what they've got, the FBI is not going to say "Screw you, townie! This is OUR File, not yours...now fuck off and get a job!"

I mean, and I'm just talking here, having a conversation, trying to work through this on an intellectual level. I'm not committed one way or the other but someone, FFS, should at least play devil's advocate here, (right? or do we not appreciate that anymore?) I mean: The Bill of Rights and the Constitution are well-and-good, but in the age of Meth-addled baby rapists and Islamic fundamentalist goat-fucking Starbucks exploding teenage Terrorists...do those documents really serve?

We tend to evaluate this stuff based on a premise that has, so far, proved faulty: That the government has some vested interest in screwing with law-abiding taxpayers.

I have seen this go on for so long and so often over every piece of proposed legislation that I've had a chance to reflect on the source of these fears.

It's not paranoia. It's narcissism.

It's the unfettered belief that somehow, we, as little individuals in this giant collective, are super, super crazy important to them.

We're not.

We're just taxpayers, and that's it. We simply aren't that interesting, and we're going to be okay.

Unless we commit crimes and MAKE them aware of us.

Yes or no?
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NO jackass. These laws are not to protect, they are to control, to squeeze money out of every and anyone entangled in the web of shit!
if people took personal responsibility for themselves we would be better off. My daughter will know how to use a gun to protect herself, she will not be waiting to be raped and then hope her attacker gets caught. Blamo! No more rapist.
You are the authority in your own life. Realize that.

I'm sorry, I'm not following? Can you explain how you've reached these conclusions from OP's original post?

Thank you.

I'll be around for about ten more minutes, this stretch.

Looking forward to your wisdom and insight.

That is why it is extremely important we have the means to defend ourselves. stop being brainwashed by these made for tv shootings and terror attacks. Do some research. turn off the tv and live your life.

Not following? You must be very intelligent, never mind. Put your head back down and stay in line.

they have to keep track of who has 666 on their hand

can't allow anyone to slip through the cracks

wouldn't be fair

on the bright side

that jail stay will not be long

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the criminals are the ones running these agencies

how on earth can you not know this

what you just said is tantamount to describing the Nazis are real law and order types

well...technically they were but there were also a few issues

We ALL gonna locked up...HI GLPer's!!!!
We are famileeeee..I got my GLPer's and me!! Whoot whoot.
What else is new!

drone strikes have been targeted using metadata

to date thousands of bystanders have been killed including hundreds of children

Justice is blind

so give the bitch a wide birth when she starts swinging

If the police were neutral, professional and helpful this is still evil. And police as a class are none of tbese. What next the post office photocopying your letters, but not reading them, just in case?

What letters? lol

What are these imaginary letters?

lmao.

Who writes letters?


I'm seriously curious? How many of you write letters in 2016?

I think it fails as a counterpoint.

The problem is that they have criminalized everything. You can commit a crime without even realizing it, because there are just too many crazy laws on the books. Throw in zero tolerance policies, and it gets even worse. Even if you break the most trivial law and do it to save a life, they will still throw the book at you.

I remember several years ago, a fairly famous American, Bobby Unser, ended up with a criminal record for committing the crime of getting lost in a blizzard. While he was lost for 2 days and 2 nights, he accidentally crossed over into protected federal land, which violated the Wilderness Act, and a judge fined him for it.

Well good luck with that...

HA.

No hue/man will ever have,666 on their bodies.

666 is not for hue/mans.

Are you saying that only criminals have rights?

Because it sounds like that's what you are saying, if you think about it.

Either you don't believe in presumption of innocence until proven guilty, or you don't believe innocent people have a right and a reasonable expectation to privacy under the 4th amendment.

If there is a REASONABLE and ARTICULABLE reason to think that someone has committed a crime, then get a warrant and perform a search. Meaning, you have to be able to explain to a reasonable person who is versed in the law, how and why it's reasonable to think that person xyz has committed a crime, and that a search will provide evidence of THAT PARTICULAR CRIME. Based on that evidence, then a group of reasonable people can sit down and determine if that evidence proves person xyz is actually guilty of said crime. At that point, the person becomes a "criminal" having been duly convicted of a crime.

That's the fundamentals of how the justice system is structured.

What is being proposed, in contrast, basically amounts to an unwarranted search of every man, woman and child in the US. For no other reason than... "well, SOMEBODY is committing crimes, or is just about to... don't we need to know WHO?" And once that information is all available in a database somewhere, it can be used, misused or tampered with by anyone with the means, motive and opportunity - which includes those with authorized access to the system who are misusing it, as well as those who do NOT have authorized access (hackers) who finally figure out a way to tap into the system.

You can't just say "We think someone in this city block, or neighborhood, or town, or country committed a crime, therefore we are going to search every closet, under every bed, every computer, until we find out who". No. That throws countless people's privacy rights under the bus. It's something that the Redcoats used as a terror tactic against the colonists that led up to the American Revolution. That's why it's in the Bill of Rights... the founding fathers wanted to enshrine this right in perpetuity because of the ghastly abuses that it's absence leads to.

It's been said that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I can't think of any more absolute power over someone than to know their every movement, their every transaction, their every expressed thought and feeling to confidants and loved ones, even contents of their private journals. If you have any doubt that that kind of power can somehow be resisted by mere mortals, guess again. Because eventually, someone will come into possession of that information and that system that you will wish, hadn't. And it will be a very VERY bad day for us all at that juncture.

This isn't rocket science... this was 8th grade civics/government when I was in school. Apparently they're not teaching it anymore. It's amazing what they can get away with when they dumb down the populace enough. Explains a lot actually.

yeah

the post office does nothing

defund it now due to no letters

just brilliant

The Hitler Goebbles Plan:

Turn your own nation into a bunch of cowards,

narcing on eachother to save their own miserable skins.

Works.